Human Genetic Engineering is illegal for ethical reasons of protecting the baby.
Yet, poisoning the baby with alcohol has just been deemed a human right in New York.
Thank you Liberals.
http://bigstory.ap.org/00f36eefd6d74852b7165cdea0334068
NEW YORK (AP) — A pregnant woman shows up at a New York City bar and wants to go in and order a drink despite health warnings against consuming alcohol while expecting. Should the tavern serve her?
It's against the law to refuse, under city Human Rights Commission guidelines released Friday. They center on expansive protections for pregnant workers but also say mothers-to-be can't be kept out of bars or denied alcoholic drinks just because they're expecting.
"Judgments and stereotypes about how pregnant individuals should behave, their physical capabilities and what is or is not healthy for a fetus are pervasive in our society and cannot be used as pretext for unlawful discriminatory decisions" in public venues, the new guidelines say.
>>73358782
Welcome to hell. Pull up a chair and enjoy the decline.
>>73358782
>iberals classify Drinking Alcohol while Pregnant a human right
Of course they do. They're fucking retarded. They can't see consequences 3 hours in the future.
I strongly dislike liberals!
>FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
>>73358906
There is a ban on fundamental research into human genetic engineering because of ethical questions.
The same society just declared poisoning your baby with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome a basic human right. Forcing all private establishments to serve the mother alcohol regardless of their personal belief.
>It's only okay if fucking up the baby is done while partying and not trying to cure a terminal genetic disease.
>>73358906
You and me both brother.
The thing is its getting so bad its seeping out, and regular people who don't pay attention are now confronting this batshit insanity for the first time.
Its been really interesting hearing the older generation attempt to comprehend 99 genders or whatever its up to now.
They will regret their choice in time.
MAGA
>Only have sex if there's condoms
>Get an abortion if she gets a baby
>Poision the infant through alcohol if she refuse to have an abortion
>Non-liberals don't do this and have more children.
It's as if liberals want their lively hood and ideals to become replaced.
Let's understand the logical thinking.
- All humans are born equally and just as able, just in different ways.
Under this imaginary social construct we continue.
- FAS is perfectly fine and only evil nazis would disagree
Of course, people with FAS are just as good as people without. Since differences are just relative social constructs. If we stop believing FAS are disabled, they can contribute as much as non-FAS.
- Curing genetic disease through genetic engineering is scary and banned
This makes a lot of sense. Genetic disease can't be worse than not having genetic disease. Otherwise we wouldn't all be equal.
Everything works out.
Thank you liberal relativism and post modern theory.
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>>73359178
I know a guy my age, who's mother was a degenerate and drank and drug while he was in the womb, the guy is not very high functioning and its quite fucking sad, this makes my blood boil.
>>73358782
where do you think liberal voters COME FROM lol
This is now a human right
DONT OPPRESS ME YOU CIS WHITE MALE SCUM! I AM EMPOWERED! WOMEN'S RIGHTS
IF MEN DON'T HAVE TO STOP DRINKING, WOMEN DON'T EITHER!
>>73358782
A private business should be allowed to refuse service to anyone they want for any reason they want.
If it's for some stupid reason like "he's black and I don't like blacks" (note: "black" and "nigger" are not synonymous) then word will spread and they'll lose their business.
In the case of a bar not wanting to serve alcohol to a pregnant woman, nobody sane would find that to be a problem.
Buy going in to a bar and paying someone for a drink, you are essentially hiring them for a short time for the service of procuring a good you want.
This law is basically saying that you have no right to choose your own work. That is not good.
STOP OPPRESSING WOMEN WHO POISON THEIR KIDS
#WomensRights
>>73359541
>>73359498
"Judgments and stereotypes about how pregnant individuals should behave, their physical capabilities and what is or is not healthy for a fetus are pervasive in our society and cannot be used as pretext for unlawful discriminatory decisions" in public venues, the new guidelines say.
"Judgments and stereotypes about how pregnant individuals should behave, their physical capabilities and what is or is not healthy for a fetus are pervasive in our society and cannot be used as pretext for unlawful discriminatory decisions" in public venues, the new guidelines say.
"Judgments and stereotypes about how pregnant individuals should behave, their physical capabilities and what is or is not healthy for a fetus are pervasive in our society and cannot be used as pretext for unlawful discriminatory decisions" in public venues, the new guidelines say.
>>73359317
They brainwash people via education.
>>73359626
that right has been gone a long fucking time in America
Now you better serve that mother alcohol and cigarettes, even if she is using an EBT card.
>>73359626
The right doesn't exist unless you're denying a white male.
>>73358782
>a private business shouldn't refuse service to someone they believe is hurting themselves and/or other people
We're in for a slippery slope, folks
>>73359626
You poor 'Strayan. Holding those reasonable and commendable views of liberty in the place you live.
I do love watching David Leyonhjelm on twatter, though. Guy's fucking hilarious.
Anyone should be able to engage in any activity not violating the non-aggression principle. As you say, ESPECIALLY in today's political climate, I don't imagine that any business explicitly refusing service to an ethnic or religious or other group would live that long. And if they were successful, that's fine! The will (and shekels) of the population would have supported them.
Government should not be in the business of legislating morality.
Libs really hate kids, huh?
Abort them, raise the boys to be effeminate betas, send them into majority nonwhite school to be bullied, teach them to hate themselves, and now this.
doesn't matter I bet black people will be hurt the most just let them role with it. This way they will literally be to retarded to vote.
>>73359819
>>73358782
Name?
>>73360215
It's funny all the people upset about some of the cutting edge SJW shit in America
When in a few years it spreads to their country and they realize how fucked they are.
I remember asking a German bro on /pol/ years back if Germany would ever open their borders to shit skins. He said it was impossible and German people would fight against it.
top kek
>>73360268
China is shitting themselves imagining facing our tranny military leaders and diverse scientists.
Reminder to LOL at anyone who thinks China or another world power can face America in 15 years.
Someone pinch me this is one weird fucking nightmare
Is there anything left in society worth saving?
>>73360616
Goldish are pretty okay. Especially Parmesan flavor
>>73358782
>a private business shouldn't refuse service to someone they believe is hurting themselves and/or other people
So much for suing fun manufacturers.
>>73360746
That is one plus side, we need some fully automatic Funishnakovs flowing around it would help purge this degenerate shit.
>Berenstain universe strikes again
This is some next level shit.
i'm having a hard time thinking anything more wicked and heinous than drinking alcohol during a pregnancy.
you're dooming a child to an entire LIFETIME of suffering and agony just 'cause you couldn't stop partying for 9 months.
>>73360877
Human Rights is the ultimate globalism tool. It has no fucking meaning except "must allow degeneracy" and ruin western society.
>>73360972
It's a human right now you fucking nazi fascist scum. Stop judging and stereotyping.
"Judgments and stereotypes about how pregnant individuals should behave, their physical capabilities and what is or is not healthy for a fetus are pervasive in our society and cannot be used as pretext for unlawful discriminatory decisions" in public venues, the new guidelines say.
>>73358906
Seriously sometimes I think this is literally hell. The shit that I keep seeing on a daily basis? Theres no fucking way logical people are making these kinds of decisions.
>>73361067
Judgments and stereotypes about how underage individuals should behave, their physical capabilities and what is or is not healthy for an adolescent are pervasive in our society and cannot be used as pretext for unlawful discriminatory decisions
>>73361153
Can you imagine what type of fucked up humans are on the human rights commission to go out of their way to put pregnant drinking as a right?
It's new york so probably at least 50% jewish commission.
You can refuse service if someone isn't wearing shoes though. So make sure they're barefoot and pregnant.
>>73358782
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>>73361355
Liberals aint got nothing to do with it. It's called freedom, niggers. Don't like it? Get out, muh Murica.
>>73360332
I'm particularly lucky.
I've almost never come across anything I'd classify as SJW-shit. Even as a fucking pseudoscience undergraduate. The only politically loud people around campus were the routinely-visiting anti-abortion crowd that threw up images of discarded fetuses everywhere.
Southern Appalachia is truly God's own country.
>>73361597
okay, legalize crack and heroin while you're at it
muh freedoms
>>73358782
So I guess we just give alcohol to children now. What's that? They are too young? Well that's discrimatory now give me what I want. While we are on the subject of children why won't you let them choose to be in a sexual relationship with me? You let then change their gender so why can't they choose to have sex
>>73359014
Me too!
>>73361597
Yeah the freedom to be forced to serve someone alcohol and help her poison a baby.
>>73361597
What is the best interes of the child?
Fucking degenerate, hope you never have kids for their own good
>>73361597
fuck me im gonna reply to bait holy shit im a fucking retard
It would be freedom if the business had the choice to tell anyone they wish to fuck off, and if any pregnant woman could very well frequent a bar every damn day that would accept her presence.
That would be my choice, believe me.
>alcohol is poison
>forcefully feeding a human life a poison without their consent
>completely legal
gg America, rip in peace
>>73358782
>It's against the law to refuse, under city Human Rights Commission guidelines released Friday. They center on expansive protections for pregnant workers but also say mothers-to-be can't be kept out of bars or denied alcoholic drinks just because they're expecting.
You know that has Juden written all over it. They want to impair the next generation of goys with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.
>>73361752
>a human life
oh boy here we go
>>73358782
>liberals are one person
>>73358782
this was on reddit and its fake.
>>73361752
not just legal
a human right, meaning you can't even refuse to encourage/allow it on your property.
>>73361597
top nigger
>>73361752
>human life
Try harder
>>73361816
bigstory.ap.org is a fake site?
>>73361816
I've seen like 10 good sources for the story
We are in the hell on earth timeline.
http://pix11.com/2016/05/06/nyc-bartenders-cant-deny-someone-a-drink-because-theyre-pregnant-city-says/
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/05/06/pregnant-women-bars-alcohol/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bar-owners-in-new-york-told-they-cannot-deny-service-to-pregnant-women-a7017306.htmlhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bar-owners-in-new-york-told-they-cannot-deny-service-to-pregnant-women-a7017306.html
>>73361796
human fetuses are people too fgt fite me irl c wut happens
>>73361646
>>73361679
You are both fools. If the woman wants to be idiotic, that's her business, and consequences should be served to the woman for them (aka, punish women of FAS children with jail time). The issue is the freedom of the servers and restaurant owners, who can no longer decide they won't sell alcohol to pregnant women.
>>73362123
Human fetuses are special soul beings when it comes to anything that seems like eugenics.
In all other cases they are literal trash you can kill or poison at will.
Got to love modern liberals.
You cannot battle crazy with logic. Wat do?
>>73358782
Someone just fucking nuke this city already
The statue of liberty is pretty but it shouldn't have to wake every morning to gaze at this hellhole of decadence
>>73362954
Out the retarded liberal shit to general public.
>>73363138
>implying general public isn't the crazy I'm referring to
>>73358782
This isn't a big deal
IQ is entirely genetic so it doesn't matter when women drink while pregnant.
>>73358782
A private company has to serve her wtf?
>>73358782
You know I've been contemplating suicide but I might as well just go through with it at this point
>>73358782
>New York said fuck and decided to let Darwinism to take its course
>?pol? is mad about about it
>>73364288
that's not the fucking point
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>>73363792
You just went full retard.
>>73364369
>stupid bitches get murdered and raped for being progressive on a daily basis
>/pol/ calls them coalburners
>same stupid bitches now want defective children that won't be able to reproduce
>/pol gets mad about it
Darwinism is removing progressivism. We should be rejoicing.
>>73363792
>>73363792
off yourself
>>73363792
My mom drank moonshine during her pregnancy: the post
>>73364610
Except it's not a case where bars can serve them without getting in trouble. It's a case of they MUST serve them or else get fucked.
>>73358782
>Promote drinking alcohol while being pregnant a human right.
>The government will give a huge disability check to the women whose babies come out with birth defects.
>Slutty Socialist Special Snowflakes will knowingly drink alcohol while being pregnant to ensure their babies will come out with birth defects just so they can recieve more fre-I mean taxpayer money.
>They will make damn sure to push this as a human right because of "MUH BODY I CAN DO WUT I WANT!!!111ONEONEONETYONE"
Please,end this ride.
>>73364833
And only stupid whores that shouldn't have children in the first place will demand its enforcement. Most women, even degenerate ones, don't want to be Katie Price.
>>73361597
Muh freedom to pay for a retarded kid's special ed and health problems, muh freedom to have more kids vote liberal because they're both retarded and dependent on gibsmedats
>>73364610
The children don't die though, they just become mentally disabled and are forced to suffer a life of looking like a freak and chances are being unable to hold a stable job. Wanting this to be the fate of a yet unborn child is cruel and immoral so of course /pol/ isn't happy about it. /pol/ is a board of morals.
>>73363792
Please be trolling.
>>73365344
>>73365211
these
>>73365187
Just remember
Making a retarded baby is human rights
Curing a baby of a disease is banned and fundamental research is also banned in USA.
It's about the fact these fucktards ban research on cures in the guise of ethics while at the same time making killing and poisoning fetuses a human right.
It's the pure evil and stupidity of the whole thing.
>>73361597
The freedom to refuse to give service
German women drink a beer a day when they're pregnant, say it makes the baby stronger, and when they say beer they mean a liter stein not a 12 oz can of 2.5% Michelob ultra piss water
Women drank and smoked while pregnant up until very recently and the rate of birth defects was no higher, complications from pregnancy were more frequent simply because not as much was known about prenatal dietary needs and care
The occasional drink is absolutely harmless to the child, it's frequent binge drinking that causes things like FAS
As long as the pregnant mother makes sure not to go overboard and to truly watch their alcohol intake then there is absolutely no risk to the baby
There is also zero evidence that smoking while pregnant results in premature births or birth defects
As with almost everything in life the key is to be smart and moderate your behavior
>>73365507
you are literally fucking retarded
>>73365507
Except that's all wrong
>>73361597
can you fucking not? jesus fuck someone ban this retard.
>>73365507
>makes the baby stronger
What retarded shit am I reading.
>>73358782
The more rights they give themselves now, the more we'll take away in due time. The backlash is coming.
>>73365507
My father is from Germany and lived there up until he was 35. I just texted him asking if this was true and he says it's utter nonsense and to call you an idiot for him.
BTFO BY MY DAD! U MAD? :>)
>>73358782
>become complicit in damaging a baby or go to jailerino
>it's her human right to force you to do it
And all just because some trashy white woman wants to partay.
Liberal logic
>>73365344
>>73365426
Sacrifices must be made. People must be made to suffer for their poor life decisions.
It sounds cruel, but the truth is that the excesses of humanity must be cut out. We've grown soft and only cruel reality can reawaken us.
Much like legal abortions, I'm sure this will kill many more black pregnancies than it will whites.
>>73358782
This has got to be satire
>>73358782
I would be perfectly fine with this, presuming that there was no such thing as government aid. You are free to make the choices, and pay for them.
That said, if you're gonna walk down that road, human genetic engineering should be available, as well.
>>73366081
see
http://pix11.com/2016/05/06/nyc-bartenders-cant-deny-someone-a-drink-because-theyre-pregnant-city-says/
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/05/06/pregnant-women-bars-alcohol/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bar-owners-in-new-york-told-they-cannot-deny-service-to-pregnant-women-a7017306.htmlhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bar-owners-in-new-york-told-they-cannot-deny-service-to-pregnant-women-a7017306.html
It's real
>>73366093
Except the law isn't making it legal to drink while pregnant, it's making it *illegal* to *not* serve a pregnant woman. This doesn't even make libertarian sense.
>>73365953
>People must be made to suffer for their poor life decisions.
But the sluts that get smashed while they're pregnant won't suffer.They'll have all that gubmint money for having a disabled child.Only the child will suffer because the mom will either abuse it in several ways or abandon it at some point to get out of their terrible decision,and responsibility.
>>73366081
It's not. Just google "drinking while pregnant new york human right"
>and cannot be used as pretext for unlawful discriminatory decisions
The whole concept of "anti-discrimination" is a leftist one
While these marxist thought crime rules exist, you will always have stupid shit like this
>>73366160
Very true. I don't go to bars often enough. Forgot that there is actually the human element required for serving drinks.
>>73358782
Refusal to acknowledge your freedom can be hazardous to your health.
>>73360616
Lasagna and burgers
>Ban drinking large sodas
>Legalize deliberately giving children birth defects
kek murrrrica
>>73366242
It's my right to never be judged or challenged by anyone else in society.
It's also my right to force everyone to agree with my views.
This is how SJW/liberals function combined with victim olympics.
>>73358782
>Can't smoke in a bar because Muh Public Safety
>Can't deny a pregnant woman a drink
Da fuq
>>73365953
The only person you're making suffer is the new life growing in the womb, asshole. Way to propagate suffering to the next generation before it's even born.
>>73366411
It's the logical conclusion to arrive at if you don't consider the fetus to be human.
Kids and other adults ARE human, so you are forcing them to inhale smoke, which goes against, "my body, my choice."
But a pregnant woman ingesting fetus poison doesn't matter. It isn't hurting other humans. What sucks is that the government turn around and stick you with the bill for her mistakes once the fetus magically becomes human by exiting the mother's insides.
>>73366561
Yeah and what happens if YOU'RE that Human?
You now have to live with not only your problems, but obviously your parent's.
Your solution only causes more suffering and hatred.
>>73366188
>But the sluts that get smashed while they're pregnant won't suffer
Wrong. They will suffer in a way they never thought of, they are removed from the gene pool.
Just as they must suffer, so shall we. We suffer in taxes. They suffer in being denied immortality. We are the phoenix. She is but dust.
>>73366658
That doesn't matter to liberals.
>>73366658
I'm not the one arguing that the fetus isn't human. They are. Me following their logic to its conclusion doesn't make me a believer in that logic.
And, even if I WAS a believer in that logic, my response would be, "Then we don't have a responsibility to help them." If you aren't human until you take your first breath (or, as some argue, until they reach "self realization" at age ~4), then we have no obligation to help the mother or the child.
We don't help women pay for medical procedures if they aren't pregnant, and we don't help people pay for their dog food, their dog's education, or their vet bills. If a fetus isn't human, then it isn't the public's financial responsibility. However, if something IS the public's financial responsibility, then the fetus/infant IS human, at which point abortion should be illegal, and there should be limits on what pregnant and nursing mothers can do without legal consequences.
You can't have this shit both ways.
>>73358782
>Can't be denied alcohol just because she can kill the human inside of her
Feel free to kill your babies
>>73366561
thats not logical at all. if you dont consider a fetus to be human, aborting one is like deciding to never have a child in the first place or jizzing into a tissue, but damaging it full well knowing it affects your future child is simply malicious
EPSILONS
WHEN
BRAVE
NEW
WORLD
BOYS
>>73358782
>there is nothing wrong with degeneracy
>>73358782
I want off this ride.
>>73366296 (cont.)
I should probably shine more light on what I mean by this.
As is the case with abortion, do we really want the people who are willing to themselves ahead of their children to raise children?
We need to go derper.
>>73358782
>"Judgments and stereotypes about how pregnant individuals should behave, their physical capabilities and what is or is not healthy for a fetus are pervasive in our society and cannot be used as pretext for unlawful discriminatory decisions"
WE ARE LITERALLY GOING BACKWARDS
ALIENS
PLAGUE
WAR
ZOMBIES
FEMA
NWO
NUKES
PUTIN
KIM JONG-UN
SOMEBODY PLEASE JUST END IT ALREADY
I WANT OFF THIS FUCKING PLANET
>>73366678
>your genetic line living on
>immorality
>>73367515
>what is hyperbole
Its the closest we're ever going to get to immortality or would you prefer that boomers live forever?
wtf is wrong with America, Would they allow a newborn to drink alcohol, No it would fuck it up.
>>73358782
California: You can't smoke until you're 21 now! You youngsters don't know what's good for you! But go sign up for the selective service boys :^)
New York: Pregnant mothers can totally give their unborn child FAS! Don't deny teh woman u sexist shitlord! :^)
>>73367732
if the newborn identifies as an adult who are we to question that?
>>73367732
Ah my kiwi friend, but that is ONCE it's born!
Until then it is a fetus and therefore a non-human entity parasitizing a stronk womyn :^)
>>73367732
The left is eating itself. Leftism in general is an afterthought. It grows after a civilization thrives. Humans forget that we once chased animals down for mere survival, that despite all our intelligence our earliest gift was being able to run longer than other species.
We build complex societies only to forget that they were built on simple rules until we can't support the growing need for progress. Then we collapse and everything has to be rebuilt.
We were born at the end of the cycle
>>73367410
Ah, how much the world would "improve" if we could just make it illegal to be stupid...
Mothers with kids with FAS will sue the bars just like the fatties sued McDonald's.
JUST
>>73358906
No. I will keep fighting.
>>73369040
>>73368392
>>73358782
Enjoy your kids looking like pic related.
>>73358782
Do these kind of laws apply to doctors now?
>Yo Doc! Give me 50 Xanax!
>But you aren't sick, you don't need them.
>FUCKING CIS OPPRESSER SCUM! I'M PREGNANT!
>>73369821
Not yet.
>Can mutilate baby body part (after birth)
>Can poison baby and cause permanent defects (before birth)
Wtf?
>>73358782
I personally would refuse to sell alcohol or cigarettes to a pregnant woman, were I in a position that I had to sell such substances.
>>73370464
Funny thing about that is...
The people who are in duch a position in that position bevause they don't care.
>>73370702
The people who are in such a position are in that position because they don't care.
>>73370781
I tell you this as a graveyard shift clerk at a convenience store.
If I exercised my power to be a professional babysitter, I'd just lose my job.
Everything I like is a human right (and should probably be subsidized)
Everything I hate should be banned (and you should probably go to jail for it)
Holy shit /pol/ I hate you fuckers but I hate liberals even more.
It's pretty fucking obvious why Libtards are in favor of this. No kids means more immigrants.
>retard liberal """ women"""
drink their babies to death and retardation
>fewer liberals and the ones that are left are literally retarded and deformed
>being a liberal becomes synonymous with being a mutant
>liberalism dies
>>73363792
That's okay America, a woman that drinks during pregnancy doesn't have a relevant IQ anyways.
>>73358782
On the one hand, very sad for the innocent child.
On the other hand, they're already doomed.
Become a right-winger, and have intelligent kids that don't suffer fetal alcohol syndrome. Our win, liberals' loss.
>>73374216
Exactly.
We need to go derper.
>>73358782
Ironic that very people this law is meant to protect will fight tooth and nail to get it revoked. Sometimes you have to put your hand on the stove to realize it burns.
The Alt-right position:
>"Well what's the problem with that, if that's what you want to do?"
>"But nobody likes it, everyone HATES it!"
>"Oh, well then, STOP!"
>>73358782
>the rights of selfish women outweigh the rights of newborn children and business running their business how they see fit
there is little doubt in my mind that America has been cursed by God
>>73375220
Everyone, everywhere, is absolutely free.
It's not isolated to America. It's a direct result of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
Welcome to Luciferianism.
>>73360471
COME AT ME
>>73375434
free until God strips them of it. The only thing that gives me comfort anymore concerning this evil world is that it will all be sorted before his throne. It's sad that many will learn his glory only by being before him
>>73375734
>free until God strips them of it. The only thing that gives me comfort anymore concerning this evil world is that it will all be sorted before his throne.
As above, so below.
Medicine is torn between telling the truth on this subject and saying what they think will minimise risk to unborn children.
The truth is that a few alcoholic drinks will not harm a foetus. The reality is that if you tell people they can have a couple with no risk, they will have more than a couple.
Ethanol itself only damages your liver. The other negative health effects are the result of vitamin B deficiency and dehydration and osmotic effects on the brain.
>>73375734
Isn't one of our duties on Earth to prevent this and help our brothers and sisters from dooming theirselves? Would you sit and watch the devil do his work? We should be fishers of men and women again.
>>73358782
gas anyone who has ever voted democrat and this problem would be solved.
>>73358782
>It's against the law to refuse
wut
Here bars and stores reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason, since they're a private institute.
>>73362235
this sort of mentality is why the west is in steady decline
"hurr if they want to be retards it's none of my business"
In most cases I agree, yes - for example if a drug addict wastes his life away. But that changes as soon as a third person is involved. A fetus being damaged by a mother's recklessness is one example of that. I could not, as a person with a conscience, help in any way to damage the fetus. If that means I have to withhold alcohol from a pregnant woman, so be it. She's more than free to destroy herself after the baby's born, though.
>>73358782
Whatever happened to "Land of the Free"?
This shit is why I'll never own my own business. We can't hire who we want or who we think will be the most productive employees or best overall fit within our business, because that's sexist or racist, and discrimination against anyone but white males is illegal. We can't refuse to provide a service to other people either, regardless of our own religious beliefs, because only the religious freedoms of the customer matter. We can't even just not do business with certain people, because if we start banning enough blacks or mexicans or pregnant women or what have you then that's discrimination too, nobody gives a shit that those individuals were judged as individuals by the owner or staff. Shit doesn't even make any sense either, if you're a faggot or a militant muslim or what have you, why would you visit a fundamentalist's place of business, or someone known in your community to be a member of the klan, or what have you? If someone doesn't like you, do you really want to trust that they're not going to fuck with you in some way? Especially if they're providing anything that deals with food, why would you do that?
People need some damn common sense in this country, and the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason should exist. "The customer is always right" should not guide legislation, and it does not mean that employees and business owners are slaves to your whim as long as you try to pay them.
>>73361597
>It's called Freedom
>It's illegal to refuse the service in a private bar
You're a fucking retard. Nobody is saying it should be illegal for pregnant women to drink they're saying it should be legal for a private party to refuse to offer that pregnant woman a drink.
There is a difference between a freedom and a human right.
>>73376412
>Panama
>the West
m8
>>73376518
>Whatever happened to "Land of the Free"?
Liberals and jews.
>>73376609
>westerner with his head up his ass: the post
>>73358782
>it's illegal to give minors alcohol
>unless they're in the womb
Makes perfect sense!
>>73376622
Rhetorical question, but thanks all the same.
>>73376747
We don't just murder babies in their most vulnerable state, we torture them too!
The Democratic National Committee™
Small amounts of alcohol do not harm foetuses. Lots of alcohol damages foetuses.
Calm your righteous anger nerds.
>>73376112
>Isn't one of our duties on Earth to prevent this and help our brothers and sisters from dooming theirselves?
yes it is, but many don't want to see what is right before them, many of these are my former friends and family
>We should be fishers of men and women again.
men refers to both men and women, no need to get pc. God created man in his own image, male and FEMALE he created he them.
>>73376966
>an irishman supporting irresponsible drunks
stereotypes aren't jokes they're facts
>>73363792
You know this from personal experience? When your mother's waters broke was it whisky that came out?
>>73377051
I'm giving you the facts. A glass of wine or two does no harm to a foetus. It's alcoholism that causes problems.
You getting so up in arms over something you don't know about is low IQ behavior.
>Low IQ behavior from an American
I agree. Stereotypes are facts.
>>73376966
How many times does this have to be repeated.
The government is forcing private business owners to provide a service known to have lasting harmful effects. Poisoning yourself (and possibly your child) is an American tradition. Forcing others, under penalty of law, to do so is the point of contempt.
>>73377297
Who decides what a small amount is? Any sane person would know it's 0 for a pregnant lady.
>Low IQ behavior from an American
>misspelling fetus
I don't even have to insult you. you do it yourself. Take a break from beating your FAS wife and go read a dictionary you catholic scum
>>73377485
>BAWW someone who knows better than me corrected me! I'll fling poo!
Get your facts straight on the subject because you rouse your righteous autism taco nigger.
>>73358782
>can't genetically engineer to prevent retardation because muh ethics
>you can drink to make your baby retarded as a human right
>you can fucking kill the thing if you don't want it
Liberals are fucking MENTAL MIDGETS
>>73362235
Yeah, and if the bartender wants to be moral and refuses to offer her a drink? Is he free to do so? Oh, wait no. He isn't.
Once again "freedom" as defined by liberals is to allow the immoral thing to do while forbidding the moral one.
>>73377485
>>misspelling fetus
>fetus
It's spelled foetus you stupid fucking American.
>>73358782
And the fucking notion that a bar can't refuse service to whomever the fuck they please is an affront. I get refused service for being too drunk, can I fucking sue the bar or get the bartender fired/arrested for violating my human rights? To fucking PISS!?
I think it's time I bow out.
>>73377655
Goddamn, you're thick. Sure, a glass of wine will not likely destroy a fetus. But we were discussing the judicial precedent, not the biology.
>>73377485
You, too. Discrimination policy being used to justify oppression of individual economic activity and morality is the bigger issue.
Drinking while pregnant is bad. So is having children after 30, but no one whines that women are doing that.
We have a duty to reject this dogma of overreaching governmental authority. That should be your focus.
>>73365507
You know more about Germany than a German.
Women drinking during pregnancy are looked down upon by pretty much everybody and women doing something like this are extremely rare, even for poor white trash folks.
>>73378136
Indeed, same here.
I just brought this up with my girlfriend of 5 years whom I plan on having children with. She said that mothers should be allowed to do what they want to do and said she didn't want to have this conversation. I'm having an urge to split up with her.
>>73378782
Remember, women are practically dogs and the only reason she holds that opinion is because the media told her so.
Its your job to train her out of it and teach her that whatever opinion she holds about anything is most likely wrong, because shes a creature that is barely sentient.
>>73379101
I know this but I thought she was completely sane until now, she works as a midwife and is always talking about the rights of babies and kids but apparently they have no rights until they've been born. If we don't split up I won't be having kids with her until her views change.
>>73378782
If she starts drinking or smoking during the pregnancy, just punch her right in the womb. You'd be doing your unborn child a favor.
>>73379267
She's not a smoker and rarely drinks, there's no way I would allow it anyway. I just don't like that she doesn't condemn women who do.
>>73379331
You gotta redpill her on the issue.
>>73379225
You can believe that people have the right to do retarded shit while recommending against it anon.
You can't fight stupidity with legislature. If you could, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
>>73379331
>there's no way I would allow it anyway.
She will just do what she wants until you confront her. Then she will just break up with you, take half your stuff, and tell the court you were too controlling and want a divorce.
Then you'd pay child support for 18 years while she fucks someone else AND gets public financial aid. Get out now.
>>73358782
>liberal parenting
All these pro-nanny state hypocrites
>>73358782
she looks familiar
>>73381536
who is this semen demon
>>73381658
https://camshowdownloads.com/ev9MOr/model/myfreecams/AlexaPond
These stories really bother me. I just don't understand why people would want to argue for it. Even it's true you can drink a bit and not hurt your fetus: why would you do it?
Sure, I like to get hammered as much as the next Australian: but I can and have gone years of my adult life without touching a drop.
What the fuck kind of person can't refrain from drinking to optimize the health of her baby? Are these bitches just addicted to pretending they are on Sex and the City, or something?
>>73359110
The generic engineering ban is more about how most black genetics, other than endurance running, would be seen as obsolete when making the perfect human. It's not "unethical" for them, it's an uncomfortable truth.
Personally I see no problem with using genetic engineering to speed up societal advances, I think it's more unethical to not use a tool to better the human race because you're afraid of becoming obsolete.
>>73381963
>endurance running
I thought long-distance runners were mostly white? This is an earnest question, I know fuck all about it.
I thought it was the things that require speed that make whites look like baby-dicked little bitches.
>>73361597
Nice try, bud, an effort was made.
>>73360471
has that person done porn yet?
i need to know for reasons
>>73358782
At my old job, there was this stupid fat black asian bitch that would chain smoke a shit load of cigarettes on break time, everyone watches and doesn't say shit because once a smoker has a child, the stress of not smoking would actually harm the baby, yes even the doctors know about this. Situation is fucked either way it was the first time i wanted to ever punch a pregnant bitch.
>>73382647
He turns 16 in October. Legal in the UK. Maybe shoot his people some emails and tell them you want to date him.
Get some mirrors installed in your bedroom so you can see his face when your cock goes in.
Imagine the expression if he's like:
>I've made a huge mistake.
Priceless.
>>73361597
Only a liberal or retaded redneck would demand that they have a right to do it anon.
>>73361597
Appparently your mom successfully ordered a lot of drinks while expecting you
>>73383293
I'm not sure one can chalk up a demand like this to pure stupidity. A redneck might drink while pregnant because she is an alcoholic with no agency: but is she going to demand it as a right?
I think these would have to be particularly evil people.
>>73358782
I don't understand anything anymore
>>73361597
Do you support me getting shot?
>dumb bitch starts drinking during pregnancy
>alcohol fucks up fetus
>dumb bitch wants to have an abortion
>your tax money will go towards dumb bitches
>>73358782
the ride never ends
>>73358782
Why complain ?
Survival of the fittest motherfuckers let the degenerates die.
>>73361597
>>73364497
>>73364557
>>73364654
>>73364728
>>73364729
>>73364862
>>73365369
>>73377113
>>73358782
You are the retards. >>73363792 has actually an amazing point, he's telling you assholes reverse causation and self selection make this problem a lot smaller. Whether you agree or not, it's a very good point.
If one assumes IQ is entirely genetic, then this thread is useless, only idiots will drink while pregnant and that's not problem because their offspring would have been stupid either way.
If one assumes as i do IQ is not entirely genetic, there still a self selection effect and this makes things a little better: it is still true to a degree that smart people won't be affected by the problem.
Learn to read you cunts, let's raise this website bar a bit
"I'm sorry guys I'm just so fucking mad"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y1LIAE8FlQ
>>73380237
If they can bash women they will. Also all the SJW "MUH BABY!" arguments.
>>73383903
Eh? If a genius gets an acquired brain injury he's not necessarily going to have a high IQ after that, right?
And being high IQ doesn't mean you can't be a junkie and do stupid shit.
>>73383903
>If one assumes as i do IQ is not entirely genetic
that would still fuck up what could have been a normal kid
>>73358782
Just goes to show how much the left worships women.a woman's feelings are literally more important than the life of a child. If she doesn't kill the child outright via abortion, she'll simply poison it and make the taxpayers fund the health care of what's left of it when she delivers
>>73362235
And what choice does the child have?
When you're pregnant, your decisions impact the child
Take the black pill
>>73384102
that's exactly what I say. That's what "to a degree" means
>>73366069
Underrated post.
Wel should encourage dumb shit behavior.
>>73361646
Legalize murder and torture as well please
>>73358782
>Human rights to poison your baby, walk around naked, kill your baby with abortions, flood your country with third worlders, do drugs
>Not human rights to celebrate Christianity, drink too big of a soft drink, smoke cigarettes or advertise them, eat trans fats, own a gun, freedom of speech if it offends someone
>>73366069
i don nid nou maaaain telling me is no 'o 'k to drink and shieet
>>73384287
I don't understand what your point is.
Let's say a genius woman is going to have a genius baby.
If she drinks enough to give that kid fetal alcohol syndrome: it is going to be mentally handicapped. It doesn't just get the be a genius because of it's genes. Its brain was physically damaged, but not genetically damaged.
Evolution at work.
>>73366353
Welcome to bizarro world
>>73358782
>illegal to refuse to serve someone
These 6 words very effectively sum up the Left.
>>73377737
See they can kill or damage their kid but I can't have a gun because the 0.00001 percent of a chance I might shoot up a place?
If you wanna drink while pregnant fine but you must sign a waiver relinquishing rights to welfare and assistance for your soon to be disabled child.
>>73360616
Food, nature, anime, and that rare beauty you find once you destroy a world.
Oh, and sex. lots of sex
>>73379225
Split up now retard.
>>73358782
>"Judgments and stereotypes about how pregnant individuals should behave, their physical capabilities and what is or is not healthy for a fetus are pervasive in our society and cannot be used as pretext for unlawful discriminatory decisions" in public venues, the new guidelines say.
>Judgements (about)[...] what is or is not healthy for a fetus are pervasive in our society and cannot be used as pretext for unlawful discriminatory decisions
We can poison unborn humans and get away with it? Why can't we do the same to fully developed humans? Furthermore, in a more abstract kind of way, couldn't you say that you're serving alcohol to a minor?
>>73358782
> Peltz
> PeltzName Meaning: German and Jewish (Ashkenazic): metonymic occupational name for a furrier, from Middle High...
Every goddamn time...
>>73382072
>>73381963
Yes, endurance running is a white thing. Niggers are better at short bursts of energy like 100m running.
>>73358782
You know who's to blame for this idea that you can't decide who to serve. That's right: NIGGERS. They ruin everything.
>>73359317
That doesn't matter. They will brainwash kids in schools. The only thing that will happen is the national iq will drop, and retardation will be more common.
>>73361597
Come over here so I can poison you. It's my freedom.
>>73362235
So the state forces the bartender to poison a baby, and force a baby to endure poison.
I think your mom drank while she was pregnant was you.
>>73361796
>staying pregnant
>allowed the fetus to become a full fledged human life
>"its not a human life YET so I get to do what I want"
>>73363792
>>73383903
It's not an amazing point because a shit ton of the FAS kids are going to be welfare drains on the rest of society
>>73361597
Human rights predicate on the harm principle, as in a right cannot be recognised if it causes harm or damage to another...this literally cant fit the definition of a human right
