There is no reason, moral or otherwise, to be against a total prohibition of alcohol with harsh punishments for all transgressors.
>Ahmed! Are you Islam or something?? Shoo shoo mudslime!
Alcohol is the #1 killer of white males worldwide. This has nothing to do with Islam.
>muh culture!
Culture is about determining and passing on a good way of life. Voluntary self-harm can never be a cultural subject.
>prohibition was tried and failed!
Past failures are not an excuse for giving up, but instead useful for research and planning of an improved next attempt.
>muh privacy!
Civil rights are not meant to warrant your personal foolishness. Laws are also meant to protect the people from themselves.
Alcohol must be removed from the equation if we are to have any chance of improving our politics.
Ignoring me instead of challenging my viewpoints. Typical. One day, you'll no longer be able to do that.
>>73330024
>Civil rights are not meant to warrant your personal foolishness.
yes they are
>>73331422
Nonsense. Following that logic all the way through, nearly all laws are immoral.
>>73330024
>Laws are meant to protect the people from themselves
no, that's the exact opposite purpose of laws. Laws are there to protect you from everyone else.
>>73331553
>nearly all laws are immoral.
i believe most laws are immoral.
People like to to things that are unhealthy. It's their choice and your totalitarian mindset won't change that. Now, shouldn't you be finding out what your girl is doing when she leaves the house and starts walking towards the migrant neighborhood every night?
>>73330024
>Culture is about determining and passing on a good way of life. Voluntary self-harm can never be a cultural subject.
Easter Island heads were constructed by the islands' inhabitants until they literally worked themselves to death.
The statues were basically one big dick measuring contest: who could build the most, who could please the gods?
They built these things, neglected their agriculture, then starved, yet they kept building.
When you think of all the symbols of world culture, those heads are easily in the top twenty list.
>>73330024
hands off my wines kraut/mehmet
>>73331676
That just means you're retarded.
>>73330024
>>73330024
Shoo, roach. I am going to drink a good old german beer in your honour now.
Prost.
>>73330024
There is good reason to be against prohibition of anything:
MY FREEDOMS
>>73331855
no. it means i dont like the government all up in my shit
>>73331850
kek
>>73330024
same goes for me. Hands of my beer, ale, mead and wine.
>>73330024
Alcohol is not the number one killer of anyone.
Do you know what it feels like to be stripped, bound, positioned, mounted and raped by a tame bear?
>"There is no reason"
Tried it. Didn't work. Look at Prohibition 1920s America. Don't like the German culture? Get the fuck out of Germany.
>>73330024
its nice to see this thread not be about weed for once. i still think everything should be legal. education just has to be better
>>73331850
>>73331999
I think you guys need to read through the OP again
>There is no reason, moral or otherwise, to be against a total prohibition of alcohol
If I'm wrong, provide one. No, "I should be able to do whatever I please" Amerilogic does not count.
>>73330024
That's fine Muhammad. When do you plan on returning to Syria?
>>73332080
If you read posts before replying to them, you'd know why I disregard your arguments.
>Voluntary self-harm can never be a cultural subject.
Subjective
Fun and enjoyable community and social customs can be a cultural subject
The perspective in which you see alcohol is not the perspective through which everyone else sees alcohol
>>73331553
If by follow you mean embellish to the point of absurdity
>>73332108
so you are asking for a reason, MORAL OR OTHERWISE, as to why alcohol should be legal?
because i want it, and there is literally nothing anybody can do to stop me from getting/making alcohol
>>73332242
refer to >>73332268
>>73332295
That's what people tend to do with laws.
>>73332268
what makes you think Prohebition 2.0 would be any more successful? if anything it would be as disastrous as The War on Drugs ^TM
>>73332338
>because i want it
Terrible reason, putting volition before reason is dumb.
>>73332108
fuck you statist, would you like to regulate how I fuck my wife too so alles ist in ordnung?
having a vineyard and making exquisite wines is a great and rewarding hobby in many regions of my country
beer is a good refreshment after doing some hard work or chilling in the summer heat
spirits can be masterfully blended using various flavours, barrels and stored in folk-artsy bottles, they work fine both as apperitifs and getting really fucked up once in a blue moon
t. a very wet culture
>>73332108
Explain why it is the job of individuals to prove to the state that their actions should be legal, rather than the state proving to its citizens that an action should be illegal.
>>73332364
Please refer yourself back to the Middle East if you don't like alcohol.
>>73332546
Make alcohol illegal if weed is.
The current status quo is fucking stupid.
Im all for alcohol being legal IF weed and lsd are legal as well.
>>73332546
>Terrible reason, putting volition before reason is dumb.
i would say its perfect reasoning. i want something. so i figure out a way to get it. how is that not a perfect reason?
>>73332108
Ok let me tell you something...
pssst...they tried that in the US.
Spoiler: It did not work, at all.
You don't change anything by banning guns, booze, or tits. You have to change people's minds to not behave like retarded vermin.
>>73332598
you could say the same thing about someone meticulously making and smoking crack. i support you, I'm just saying.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYRuPXbav2w
>>73332546
my volition is to bomb your country into the ground again you fuckin kraut fuck
>>73332489
The fact that we know why the Prohibtion failed.
>>73332598
No wonder it's just another stain on the cloth of Europe.
>>73332627
There's more than enough evidence to conclude that the alcohol industry should not exist.
>>73332636
Anally annihilated dipshit from a family of drinkers.
>>73332862
Hedonism always leads to catastrophe.
>>73330024
>Alcohol
No, heart disease and cancer are
>>73332546
>Volition
>Reason
Pick 2 m8, what if my reason for drinking is my desire to drink? Isn't that an integral part of our lives, is our ability to persue what we want to?
Yes big brother, you know whats best for me, you look out for me. Everything you do is for my protection. Thank you oh big brother for protecting me from myself.
Fuck off Ahmed, you have no say in what I put into my body or not. I wasn't going to drink today, grabbing a beer now goatfucker.
>>73332932
>You have to change people's minds
That's extremely difficult to do with alcoholics. They have a habit of drinking until their cognitive ability is diminished enough to stop caring about what's right.
>>73333026
Don't worry, the muslims will finish the job.
>>73330024
>There is no reason, moral or otherwise, to be against a total prohibition of alcohol with harsh punishments for all transgressors.
I don't see why someone else gets to decide what I can and can't ingest.
>>73333071
In fact, chronic liver disease is sitting at number 10. Pretty shit troll thread, mate
>>73333171
>what if my reason for drinking is my desire to drink?
Id bet you drink because you can't quit anymore.
I'm teetotal, like God Emperor Trump. Feels ubermensch.
I like w bottle of wine with my lady, is that degenerate?
It improves social skills which leads to bonding and procreation
>>73333039
>family of drinkers
Hah, no. Luckily heavy drinking doesn't run in the family. My family just knows how to have self-control and without resorting to childish absolutism.
Now go tell some random woman on the street to cover up in a hijab because you can't keep your dick in your pants if you see a bare ankle.
>>73333039
>The fact that we know why the Prohibtion failed.
it was unenforceable, was the number 1 cause of police corruption, and singlehandedly led to the rise of organized crime in the US?
>>73333362
Alcohol can and does cause heart disease.
>>73330024
>Culture is about determining and passing on a good way of life. Voluntary self-harm can never be a cultural subject.
A good way of life is a way of life that is enjoyable and raises good people. Not one that keeps them in a bubble. What's next - gonna pick all our diets for us too and count our shits?
>>73333523
There's been a century of advancement since then, do you really believe we don't have a better shot at it today?
>>73333232
People will do all kinds of shit to make their lives miserable. They've done it in the past, the are doing it right now and they will always do it.
If you ban alcohol, people will find other ways to send themselves into oblivion.
Stop being an overregulating EU-like freak. We already have enough of those. AND THEY ARE IN POWER.
>>73330024
We've been drinking this shit since the dawn of civilization. I'm fair intoxicated right now, but God damn at least give people the social Liberty of bars, and the dazed stupor of happiness.
>>73333633
Why on earth would prohibition be more effective now than then?
>>73330024
Uh no.
Remember the prohibition? Prohibition of anything increases it's value in the free market and therefore creates criminals who profit from it. As time goes on, more and more organized crime gets involved. If you want to reduce crime, you legalize everything. Methamphetamine, Cocaine, you name it. Legalization allows age regulation and severely hurts organized crime. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
>>73333548
>can and does
And the percentage of heart disease caused primarily by drinking is trivial. It's also a small percentage of the causes of cancer. Got any other arguments?
>>73332003
I know the first 4 :3
>>73333668
heh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPgiI46FCDU
>>73333039
Way to dodge the question. Will you send me a list of your Allah-approved activities?
>>73330024
I agree. The degenerate drug abusers on /pol/ won't agree though. They whine and moan about degeneracy, unless they're degenerate, then they have a hissy fit.
>>73331976
He's right you know.
>>73330024
>There is no reason, moral or otherwise
yes there is, i want a beer after work. free country, i'll have my fucking beer. eat a dick, faggot. nobodys making anyone drink anything
>>73333862
unless it's their own degeneracy*
>>73333813
What about car crashes, alcohol-induced manslaughter, et cetera?
>>73333782
This. As society advances people become more and more pigeon holed into highly specialized, monotonous roles. People need escapism and those that work certainly deserve it.
>>73333862
You live in the biggest nanny state of them all. What's it like to cut your steak with a fucking spoon because the gubmit won't let you have knives?
>>73333930
The stupidity of some does never make banning stuff for everyone else a right thing. period.
>>73333633
No fuckface, because when you start at one thing it becomes a slippery slope of shit you ban.
Alright, so lets say they re ban alcohol. What's next? Some 300,000 people die each year due to obesity related causes alone, ban big macs? I mean, I understand it's already haram for you, but it's not for everyone else. Then what? Dangerous activities? Sky diving? Rock climbing? Racing? Anything that can hurt anyone ever?
Go back home to your sharia controlled dry country if you want prohibition.
>>73334025
>basing your philosophy around cartoon shows
Why don't you try to become the Hokage while you're at it?
>>73334060
>What's it like to cut your steak with a fucking spoon because the gubmit won't let you have knives?
Reminder, just because you read something on the internet, it doesn't mean it's true. The fact you've made the quoted statement suggests you're mentally impaired.
>>73333930
Angry, psychotic males go on shooting rampages while the majority of gun owners are responsible adults. Should we ban guns too?
>>73334176
>Some 300,000 people die each year due to obesity related causes alone, ban big macs?
Make them accomodate their extra strain on the health system.
Of course that only goes for countries in which socialized health care is a thing. In your country, they get special scooters so the fast food and corn syrup industries can continue to profit off them.
>>73330024
>>Ahmed! Are you Islam or something?? Shoo shoo mudslime!
>Alcohol is the #1 killer of white males worldwide. This has nothing to do with Islam.
heart disease is the #1 killer in western countries
>>muh culture!
>Culture is about determining and passing on a good way of life. Voluntary self-harm can never be a cultural subject.
proofs
>>prohibition was tried and failed!
>Past failures are not an excuse for giving up, but instead useful for research and planning of an improved next attempt.
alcohol is one of the easiest things in the world to make, for prohibition to work you'd need to ban all fruit and water-tight containers from public use
>>muh privacy!
>Civil rights are not meant to warrant your personal foolishness.
yes they are
>Laws are also meant to protect the people from themselves.
in the Soviet Union maybe
>>73334189
>a show agrees with what something I believe in therefore my ideas are based on the show
Yeah okay...
>>73334301
Gun regulation is a matter of state security and has little to do with public safety. If your leaders were more honest about that, they might actually get some of it passed.
>>73333930
You've never been smashed before in your life, have you?
>>73334301
The Greens, socialists the EU-commission and the UN think so.
Fucking bastards they are.
I've never been a massive drinker, but like most Brits when I do drink its in a fiendish binge habit way.
It's clear from from how I feel the next two days the stuff is poison, so I keep off it except once/twice a month. The harm that must do to me long term is minimal, and it's a small risk I'll take in return for blowing off steam and having a good times with friends.
So all said fuck off with your authotarian bullshit, neckbeards like you need deal with your own shit before you preach to other people with how regards to they handle theirs.
I respect the notion of abstinence to drugs/drink, and can see the clear benefits of it. But every person I meet who doesn't drink is such a preachy lame autistic cunt I can't help but head straight for the bar.
Europeans have consumed alcohol for hundreds of years.
Most of the problems are because nonwhites can't handle it.
>>73331855
>he's beating me in an argument
>shit
>better call him a retard
>>73330024
This is just an attempt to sneak Shariah law into Western society. Soon you will be talking about how bacon causes cancer, better ban ban pork.
>>73330024
We've tried that already. Didn't work so well. Unintended consequences, man.
>>73334397
>heart disease is the #1 killer in western countries
Good point I admit, but a significant portion of that is caused by tobacco, which should also be forbidden.
>>73330024
Fuck off Hassan, I'm having beer with my bbq.
>>73332959
I have nothing against drugs either, for all I care you could shoot heroin in broad daylight, as long as you don't harm anyone else, for example: my hometown I grew up in had a group of about a dozen older junkies, their behaviour, appearance and eventual deaths served as the greatest deterrent ever to thousands upon thousands of highschool children who saw explicitly what becomes of an individual when they start using hard drugs; anecdotal for sure but demonstrates my point perfectly
before you mention it, expensive monopolistic universal healthcare can fuck off as well, I needed mine on 3 separate occasions and 2/3 I was disgusted by the subpar diagnostic and treatment options I was given, so I had to shell out considerable cash to private practices in order to receive 21st century treatment
in fact I believe that taking away personal responsibility from an individual in order to delegate it to nanny state through legislature in our modern history is the very reason many social problems even exist, even make new ones like opportunities for organized crime wherever some clandestine and risky illegal activity is involved
you cannot legislate people's wants and desires, forbidden fruit is the sweetest, where there's a will there's a way etc etc
how about if you dont act like a retarded toddler, you wont die.
>>73334207
No it just means I was poking fun at your pathetic excuse of a nation by exaggeration. Can you own a firearm? No. Can you walk around London without being capture by 999999999 cctv cameras? No.
You live in a coddled nanny state and think that the world needs more victimless crimes. You're obviously either young and foolish, or old and stupid, and either way I pity you and hope that you look at the world more objectively in the future.
>>73330024
>Laws are also meant to protect the people from themselves.
Fuck this nanny state bullshit. Either you or your parents/tutors are responsible for your actions.
>>73334397
>alcohol is one of the easiest things in the world to make, for prohibition to work you'd need to ban all fruit and water-tight containers from public use
That's not a good reason to allow a mostly unregulated alcohol industry that's too powerful for any government to get in the way of. At the very least, it should be demolished and minimized as much as possible.
>>73334469
How about this:
Nobody does anything bad or wrong that could possibly lead to destruction or other misfortune ever, and those that do engage in risky activities that trade higher mental faculties for a state of elation should be jailed. Then everyone can live happy and love each other while ignoring the immoral beverage that has become part of the human experience.
>>73331349
Come see me after class, Ahmed.
>>73330024
>Can't control his own urges. Must make it Illegal.
>>73334851
I know you want to believe libertarianism can work, but that's a lot more delusional than anything I could ever think up.
>>73334719
The best solution to the drug problem is to build a society where people don't want to get fucked up all the time.
>>73334807
>unregulated alcohol industry
alcohol and tobacco are probably the most regulated consumer goods besides prescription drugs
>>73334796
And sadly my country is not far behind in that desire to rule over all aspects of its citizens lives. That's why people who unironically foam at the mouth to control other people's degeneracy are so damn irritating.
>>73331676
Ahaha, go back to your anarchist forum.
>>73334616
Saying most laws are immoral isn't much of an argument either, it's just a statement. You seem pretty butthurt, why don't you just cut your internet seeing as governments helped build the infrastructure for you to use it anyway.
>>73334807
It's not even close to monopoly. There's plenty of room for small breweries to sell their poison for profit and create healthy competition. I've never heard of a brewery holding a government hostage.
>>73334988
I said mostly unregulated. I reckon the US is much different in this regard, but in Europe, very few governments dare to prosecute the alcohol industry.
>>73334394
So what about everything else that can kill? Where do you draw the line? At what's haram or not?
>>73333039
meant to quote you here as well, the original shitstain of europe, one that doesn't go away even after 2 thorough washes
>>73334719
>>73335336
>Where do you draw the line?
Public health. If it fucks with public health, I'm against it. Simple as that.
>>73330024
>There is no reason, moral or otherwise
Yea this place is just eat up with morals.
/thread
>>73330024
wow, fuck off you statist cuck
yaaaaa, no. I like my booze
>>73335289
>prosecute the alcohol industry
On what grounds?
Also, here the cops run stings all the time to make sure bars and liquor stores are checking IDs.
OP is the biggest faggot to ever be a faggot. Winston Churchill would have you drawn and quartered.
>>73330024
Could never have had the British Empire without rum.
>>73335505
Make them pay for all the lives they ruin.
>Also, here the cops run stings all the time to make sure bars and liquor stores are checking IDs.
I know, the US is ten times better than Europe in this regard. Commendable.
>>73334988
that's impossible, all over the world people integrated various mind-altering substances into their rituals and lifestyles for countless reasons
one should be free to YOLO or not YOLO if they choose so, as long as they bear full responsibility for their actions
>>73330024
digo e repito: enfia teu amor de jesus de merda no teu cú sua crente filha da puta.
You do not warrant actual engagement. I will provide a general list of issues with your reasoning .
1) You state the extremist argument that there is "no reason" one could be against prohibition of alcohol. You then IMMEDIATELY go on to refute reasons which you already know exist. Your very need to do that already demonstrates the existence of reasons.
2) You try to strawman and reduce any opposition to meme greentext. This is because you are not smart enough to actually refute the arguments that you do know exist. You disregard the arguments because you cannot actually confront them and resolve them in your favor.
3) You make a baseless claim that the removal of alcohol will offer us a chance to improve politics when ironically the opposite is true. Political health has declined largely because there is less mutual drinking and fraternization among politicians. As DUIs became political suicide the amount of joint political social events has declined and people have segregated. Alcohol venues have long been a hotbed of political activity and lead to much political progress. A huge modern political problem is not that our politicians are drinking together-- it is that they stopped doing so.
4) Public will is against prohibition and attempts to impose laws without popular mandate are both immoral and doomed efforts that undermine the general rule of law.
5) The ease of alcohol manufacture makes prohibition efforts unwieldy.
6) You are arbitrary. Your "harsh punishment" is vague and undefined. You have no actual example of a harsh punishment and offer no evidence as to why harsh punishment is necessary vs any other punishment. You advocate something without actually considering the function it serves.
7) You are a retard and your posts should be prohibited.
>>73335425
>NOX emissions cause asthma and lung problems
>ban diesels
>CO2 emissions cause global warming
>ban petrol engines
>nuclear plants that are decades old can have meltdowns/accidents, therefore we shouldn't build more and should stop using them
>stop using nuclear
>oh wait, more radioactivity and emissions are released by coal than by nuclear plants
>stop using coal
>let's only use renewable power when solar/wind are available and end reliable electricity
>oh shit, the heavy metals used to mine batteries cause health problems for the people that mine them and recycle them
>stop using anything with a battery except electric cars
More to the point, plenty of things cause health problems besides alcohol. In fact, acetaminophen (tylenol) causes more acute liver failure than anything else, including alcohol.
>>73335425
Then you're a fascist. You think you have the right to tell people what to do with their bodies. You think you have the right to enforce laws that prevent people from being self-destructive. I'm sorry but you fucking don't. Some people don't care to live to 100 if it means never having any fun. And some people know they can be hit by a bus tomorrow so they'd like to experience some of the joys in life like alcohol or tobacco.
It's great that you don't drink. It's healthy and it clears your mind. But don't fucking try to take the bottle out of everyone else's hands.
>>73335470
>actually paying mind to anarchist thought
>>73330024
There is no reason to ban alcohol. It makes money and had been around for thousands of years. It's relatively safe until abused heavily, and can be used as medicine in some cases (rarely). But there really isn't a point to banning it because people will always just ignore the law and make it themselves, which is much more dangerous and can cause serious illness if not made properly. Thus there's really no reason to make it illegal and boost illegal activities and crime groups just because it's a little dangerous. That's part of the responsibility you agree to when you turn of age (21 here) and decide to consume it. Your choice to potentially damage your body, or not to, not the government's.
>>73331349 bait
>>73331553
>>73331855
>>73332108
>>73332268
>>73332364
>>73332546
>>73333039
>>73333232
>>73333369
>>73333548
>>73333633
>>73333825
>>73333930
>>73334189
>>73334394
>>73334469
>>73334676
>>73334807
>>73334980
>>73335289
>>73335425
German ackbar detected
>>73335425
EVERYTHING can be argued to fuck with public health. They could curtail your Internet use, for instance, because you aren't getting enough excercise.
Maybe Merkel will do us all a favor and shut you up.
>>73335813 here
Except electric cars
Misspoke, I meant to say INCLUDING electric cars.
Medical companies put acetaminophen in a ton of shit including stronger painkillers to deter abuse, but many people OD on Tylenol not knowing they're doing it because acetaminophen is in sleep aids, pain killers, and other meds and people don't realize they've had a fatal dose. They then spend two days dying of organ failure.
>>73334980
That's the goddamn point, rotten shit happens, then you can drink your poison and forget your troubles.
>>73335763
>You do not warrant actual engagement.
I'm actually glad there's a lively discussion going on.
>1) You state the extremist argument that there is "no reason" one could be against prohibition of alcohol. You then IMMEDIATELY go on to refute reasons which you already know exist. Your very need to do that already demonstrates the existence of reasons.
I refuted reasons that are often stated and complete bullshit in my eyes.
>2) You try to strawman and reduce any opposition to meme greentext. This is because you are not smart enough to actually refute the arguments that you do know exist. You disregard the arguments because you cannot actually confront them and resolve them in your favor.
You believe that because you overlook all those of my responses that don't fit in with your own, extremely narrow viewpoints.
>3) You make a baseless claim that the removal of alcohol will offer us a chance to improve politics when ironically the opposite is true. Political health has declined largely because there is less mutual drinking and fraternization among politicians. As DUIs became political suicide the amount of joint political social events has declined and people have segregated. Alcohol venues have long been a hotbed of political activity and lead to much political progress. A huge modern political problem is not that our politicians are drinking together-- it is that they stopped doing so.
That's just bullshit.
(cont.)
>>73336138
>4) Public will is against prohibition and attempts to impose laws without popular mandate are both immoral and doomed efforts that undermine the general rule of law.
Let's change public will.
>5) The ease of alcohol manufacture makes prohibition efforts unwieldy.
That doesn't mean alcohol production and sale should be legal.
>6) You are arbitrary. Your "harsh punishment" is vague and undefined. You have no actual example of a harsh punishment and offer no evidence as to why harsh punishment is necessary vs any other punishment. You advocate something without actually considering the function it serves.
Penitentiaries.
>7) You are a retard and your posts should be prohibited.
So what about the free society thing you appear to love so much
>>73335425
Shitposting can be detrimental to your health, I'm gonna have to ban that now.
Gambling can be harmful, gonna have to ban.
Fast women can be harmful, gonna have to ban.
>>73335063
How does it feel to be little gear in Military Industry Complex?
>Past failures are not an excuse for giving up, but instead useful for research and planning of an improved next attempt
Oy vey Germany, what are you planning?
>>73335820
>And some people know they can be hit by a bus tomorrow
There's a reason why people make efforts to avoid getting hit by a bus.
All the "you are fascist" claims make you sound like a Serb. Law and order are not fascist.
>>73332080
>Tried it. Didn't work. Look at Prohibition 1920s America.
They didn't went for the consumer. Consumption should be prohibited for success (same for drugs). Can't hide your blood. Also in 20s feds didn't have full powers yet. Now with power of teh state and consumption illegally i could guarantee you success.
>>73336305
>Let's change public will
Good luck with that one Old Sport. People won't stop drinking alcohol just because you ask nicely.
>>73330024
fucking get out of here you useless muslim shitheel.
>>73335827
ugh she looks like my ex.
>>73336592
No.
>>73336642
get the fuck out you cockless muslim homosexual piece of shit.
>>73336305
>>5) The ease of alcohol manufacture makes prohibition efforts unwieldy.
>That doesn't mean alcohol production and sale should be legal.
anything that can be made by prisoners in their cell would be so prohibitively expensive to ban that its cost to society could never be higher than the cost to control it
>>73336720
Make me.
I'm not a muslim, by the way.
>>73336504
Racism kills thousands of innocent minorities in the anglosphere yearly, those guilty of it should be eliminated. You can't tell me that their lives are worth less than white men, that's a bullshit argument. /Pol/, you do not warrant actual engagement.
>>73336785
get the fuck out of here you goat rape dune coon.
>>73336793
They're worth less than most cockroaches, fuck off.
>>73330024
>Alcohol is the #1 killer of white males worldwide. This has nothing to do with Islam.
Wrong. It's cancer. Followed closely by Heart Disease.
>Culture is about determining and passing on a good way of life. Voluntary self-harm can never be a cultural subject.
The only thing harmful about alcohol consumption is when it's done in excess frequently. Nothing wrong with having a glass of wine with dinner every night, that's culture.
>Past failures are not an excuse for giving up, but instead useful for research and planning of an improved next attempt.
I dare you to try it again, this time we won't even bother with the moonshiners, we'll just revolt outright.
>Civil rights are not meant to warrant your personal foolishness. Laws are also meant to protect the people from themselves.
Don't need you or your laws intruding on my life choices, ever.
>Alcohol must be removed from the equation if we are to have any chance of improving our politics.
FTFY: Corruption must be removed from the equation if we are to have any chance of improving our politics.
>>73330024
Alcohol is so easy to make. There will always be dudes brewing that shit in their basements if it's illegal. It's impossible to stop humans from partaking in something we've done for thousands of years.
If you want to reduce the number of deaths by alcohol then have a media that isn't controlled by degenerate kikes who promote binge drinking as something cool.
Prohibition is like the war on drugs. It does nothing but put people in prison.
>>73336784
The goal would not be to eradicate alcohol production outright, just to make it illegal.
>>73330024
>Alcohol is the #1 killer of white males worldwide
>white people
>self control
pick one
>>73336305
I changed my mind anon, after thinking it through I now fully support and encourage Germany to try and ban alcohol along with other harmful substances like tobacco, caffeine etc which are still legal across all EU member states
that'll hasten the day this prison of nations finally goes to hell where it belongs
>>73336948
get the fuck out of here you child molesting saracen fuckboi
>>73330024
>no-fun-allowed subhuman makes a thread
Alcohol in moderation reduces the chance of several cancers.
Bottom line: Moderate drinkers live longer than non-drinking shitscum, OP.
Kill yourself, you un-scientific fuckhead.
>>73330024
>ban booze
>raping children is OK
Sandnigger logic.
>>73334189
>basing your philosophy around islam
>>73336961
Your irrational hatred for my nation is cute, but I still don't believe I'm in the wrong here.
>>73337124
Fuck off you emasculated trap handjobbing turk pedophile.
>>73337223
You have some issues to work out and I'm pretty sure I have nothing to do with them.
>>73336784
>The ease of alcohol manufacture makes prohibition efforts unwieldy.
Yeasy peasy. Make consumption illegal. 3 strikes - labor camp for life no parole individual rights stripped off. I could guarantee that demand and consumption of alcohol will fall to the zero level.
>>73337306
I bet you don't, fuck off you ugly shit scented sand nigger hippy.
>>73337077
animals too if there are no children to be found but then it's imperative to kill the animal so their moon god is pleased
>>73337124
>irrational
top kek and fuck you, I'll beat the high score my granddads set in the last war in case you decide to get uppity once again
>>73337449
>I'll beat the high score my granddads set in the last war
Doubt it, drinkers aren't known for their amazing aim.
Here's a fucking idea, drive the muslims out by establishing a legal drinking minimum per month. Don't let this fucking muzzie shitstick win.
>>73330024
i agree but imo prohibition should be tried by raising taxes so much that any alcoholic beverage becomes obscenely expensive.
>>73335813
Problems that seem insurmountable today might be overcome in the future. I'll never stop hoping. A healthier society is always in reach.
>>73330024
>Yeasy peasy. Make consumption illegal. 3 strikes - labor camp for life no parole individual rights stripped off. I could guarantee that demand and consumption of alcohol will fall to the zero level.
Unless you plan on putting a police officer in every household and backwood redneck shack, that will never work.
>>73336785
>I'm not a muslim, by the way.
Muslims are natural born liars and all of your posts indicate that you are a muslim. Why should we believe a child-molesting muslim like yourself?
>>73330024
Shoo shoo mudslime!
>>73337818
Will not work and will only create black market and all violence and corruption spreading from it. kill the alcoholics it is the only right and efficient way.
>>73337818
doesn't help your cause a single bit in cultures used to making their own alcohol/tobacco/drugs, it'll just relocate social gatherings from public spaces into private sphere, thereby yielding even less tax revenue for the authoritarian state
>>73337911
What do you have to offer those drinking sobs to fill the void they fill with alcohol now?
>>73337911
Shitposting on the internet can be detrimental to health, I advise you take your own advice.
Fucking goats cant be too healthy either.
>>73337344
>Yeasy peasy. Make consumption illegal. 3 strikes - labor camp for life no parole individual rights stripped off. I could guarantee that demand and consumption of alcohol will fall to the zero level.
Unless you plan on putting a police officer in every household and backwood redneck shack, that will never work.
>>73337974
So you believe the only condition of being a muslim is being opposed to alcoholism?
What about all those muslims who drink regularly?
>>73330024
This is bait, but....
Only religious niggers and lame scum are against alcohol. You have to be a top-tier moron to be against alcohol. Alcohol is fun as tits, it's like the biggest bonding-experience my country has! Shit, I'm hungover right now and I'm still standing up for alcohol and my freedom and right to consume it.
Last night was a blast bytheway
>friends bigass cabin by the lake
>sauna-cabin, main cabin, bbq-shack, pier and two boats
>get jiggy, put sauna on and go boating
>cook some meat, enjoy the sun
>shoot at seagulls with a BB-gun and take the bigger boat out 20k to a shore-bar
>get fucked up some more, boat back
>dive off boat into lake
>go to sauna
>get more fucked up and listen to country-music and such
>dive into the cold lake at night as the moon illuminates the shore
>dance naked and sing
>pass out next to wife in bed
Best shit there is and only niggers will want to take this away from people. Everyone was happy, no one got hurt, we bonded.
>>73338088
Strength.
>>73330024
we literally already tried this
all it did was give organized crime shitloads of extra money and most of the police didn't care enough to actually stop it because they also wanted a fucking drink
if it didn't work in the 1920s it sure as fuck isn't going to work in 2016
>>73338176
>I need to be drunk to socialize and have fun
How bleak is Finland?
>>73330024
Reminder that women used their first vote to outlaw alcohol
>>73330024
Fuck off socialist scum, go suck a bbc
>>73338391
Every single time.
>>73338176
I'd party with your crew anon, sounds like a blast
>>73336883
I think some pink moscato along with an online cultural tolerance seminar will help you understand my point.
Hey OP, we should also prohibit:
1) Fast food or other foods deemed unhealthy by the state
2) Sedentarism. The amount of physical activity every person needs should be determined by the state
3) Shitposting or spending time on sites deemed unhealthy or immoral by the state
4) Driving. Every person should use transportation provided by the state, much safer that way.
5) Going outside without a personal security officer, authorized and provided by the state. Too dangerous to go outside.
6) Private schools. Education should be state-provided, they know what's good for us.
I think taxes would increase, but at least we'll be healthier (according to the state, of course)
>>73338461
We still have more world cups than you :^)
And we are the only country on the planet that participated in all world cups :^)
Anyways enjoy your national team while you can, soon enough soccer will be considered haram and your government that you love so much will prohibit it
>>73338123
nobody's buying the act
Also, you should know that your women slut out like crazy as soon as they escape your eye sight.
>>73330024
even jesus turned water into wine, alcohol cant be bad
>>73338802
Nah, in fact, just lock us in prison resorts and let the state decide every single facet of our lives. We mere mortals are just too dumb to be free and have the responsibility that comes with freedom.
>>73338896
Really, I don't care about Islam.
I just happen to have a pretty good idea of how detrimental the alcohol industry is.
I doubt I'd prosecute people who would produce it in private, just everyone who tries to make a business of it.
>>73339011
Unfortunately, the plebeians in this thread will never reach the godly level of spiritual enlightenment and happiness that OP has achieved until they give up the liquid and smoke jew.
>>73331422
No, they aren't. By that logic you wouldn't support the patriot act or bans on drugs.
>>73339220
My spiritual enlightenment detects some sarcasm in your post.
While most anons ITT would like to kick my face in for having an opinion they don't like, there have been a few who agree with me. I'm not entirely alone with my views, and that's good enough.
>>73338367
Pretty bleak, summer lasts for like two weeks most of the time. Drinking does make socializing better tho, but what would you know? Have you ever had a bonding experience? Does your religion allow fun?
>>73338515
Shiiet son, any time, our crew is tight-knit but we're always open for kool peeps to join and hang, any friend of our friends is a friend of ours. And by tight-knit, I mean most of us have known each other since pre-school, but our circles have gathered people from all parts of our lives and it is simply awesome. We do have some great parties, most involve alcohol, but we have people who don't drink with us most of the time, doesn't matter.
Just last wednesday after work we gathered everyone out to the rocks at the end of a pier and had a few beers, kicked a footbag around, talked shit and after that went over to the city to drink some more on a rooftop-balcony looking over the city, it was pretty awesome.
>>73338119
You don need to. Risk/reward ratio with such punishment makes alcohol consumption not feasible. Even if you caught alcoholic every few years its ist still much less than average life expectancy and all alcoholics would be removed from population pool long before they would be able finish their life naturally and spawn new alcoholic kids.
I used to be this edgy, but I recently realized that drinking is a huge part of white culture.
>>73339634
You should come to Virginia, there are lots of neo-prohibitionists in this state. Same reasoning and everything. The most they were able to do though was to increase the penalties for DUIs and pass stricter alcohol control business laws.
Run dont walk away from alcohol
It ruined my life
I cant stop drinking
I will die soon
I have siezures if I dont drink
I never asked for this I just didnt want to be depressed
This is worse
You ought to just abstain and allow everyone else to kill themselves
>>73339935
Maybe you can get a doctor to prescribe you carbamazepine or diazepam so you can taper off?
>>73339692
>Have you ever had a bonding experience?
Sure, why not? Most Germans my age get wasted and smoke weed erryday, though. Gets annoying quick.
>Does your religion allow fun?
I'm not religious.
>>73339935
Pfft, faggot you have bigger affairs to put into order than drinking if it affects your life in that manner. Most people are fully capable of getting absolutely torn to shreds by alcohol a few times a month and not have it affect their life in any way, like me. Your problem isn't alcohol, your problem is the reason you drink alcohol.
>>73330024
Fuck off, Ahmed, if your country doesn't have a drinking culture then you are a non-country. People like your ruin all the fun in life because you can't trust yourself to enjoy something in moderation. It was feminists who pushed for prohibition in the first place, and that should tell you how stupid it is of an idea.
>>73340361
I don't believe most Germans your age do that shit every day, you just hang around the kind of people your age who do so you think that way.
>>73340450
Alcohol is extremely addictive. Drink too much for a time and the withdrawal symtoms will be so painful that you're doomed to end up like that unfortunate anon.
>>73340608
I think you underestimate just how big of a deal alcohol consumption is in our countries.
OP you are making me want to relapse so badly please stop ahhhhh fuck
>>73340675
Alcohol is extremely addictive? Then why am I not addicted yet? Where do you get your facts?
I drink, yes, sometimes exuberant amounts until I pass out or vomit, but I have never felt the need to have alcohol, I most of the time will simply not drink even if I felt like going out, because I have responsibilities. I've never stayed out of school or work because of alcohol and I honestly do not believe alcohol is addictive, some people are just weaklings.
And you believe alcohol should be prohibited simply because there are weakling-faggots out there who manage to ruin their lives with it? Then why not prohibit anything and everything that can lead someone down a rabbit-hole? Ban internet because people sometimes stay online for longer than they should and don't get work done, am I right?
Prohibition has, isn't and never will be the answer.
>>73340361
I am guessing that you are 17-21 years of age.
>>73341076
And this data correlates with what?
>>73341402
>I honestly do not believe alcohol is addictive
You are free to believe anything you want, but researchers on the matter beg to differ.
>>73341493
Nope, 26. Although daily drinking isn't rare in that age bracket here, either.
>>73330024
What are your reasons for prohibition of alcohol?
Fuck you fuck you fuck you
Fuck im going to buy a 4loko now
Fuck you
Goddammit i hate you OP you made me think of booze
Fuck yoooou
>>73341773
I hate to argue semantics, but alcohol is not addictive, you are addicted to endorphins released when you consume alcohol, it's more of an addiction to feeling good than an addiction for alcohol. So your brain releases opiates when you drink, if you are weak enough to get addicted to that stuff, just get some naltrexone or any other opiate antagonist drug a doctor might suggest.
These kinds of people will just find another fucked up thing to get addicted to in order to keep their shitty grey matter pumping them opioids, so out the door goes prohibition as a solution.
>mfw all the people in this thread defending alcohol are in favor of keeping marijuana illegal arbitrarily
>mfw they will say the government has no business telling them what they can put in their bodies, except if it's marijuana
Replying to this with DUDE only proves your hypocrisy.
>>73342071
It fucks people up, destroys families, dissolves communities, and holds Europe back as a whole.
>>73330024
Alcohol is the worst most useless drug. Puts you to sleep. Is literal poison or hairspray left to ferment in a bag. Makes you puke. Turns everything black. Makes you look like you're having a stroke. Embarrass yourself. Injure everything. Sleep in the road. Lose your family. But yeah. TITTIES!
>>73343003
You mean prohibition does that?
>>73343464
Why do you require booze? Other than the fact you're so addled you would die without it, is there any other spun defence you can make for it?
>>73343003
>It fucks people up
Only those who are already fucked up
>destroys families
Why would you want fucked up people to have families?
>dissolves communities
>and holds Europe back as a whole.
How?
>>73330024
Lol... Alcohol is your entire culture, you retarded Kraut. You are literally nothing without it.
>>73343420
Hey moosefucker, when you let your countrymen speak french as prevalently as they do, you lose your ground on making statements like that.
How have I not experienced any of those aside from puking and embarrassing myself? :D Which I honestly don't mind, I do that shit sober too, but you're honestly saying that usage of alcohol = getting so fucked up you pass out on a road and lose your family.
>>73343561
Because I've had and will continue to have fun with alcohol. I don't require it, just like I don't require cotton candy, but a carnival is missing something if there isn't cotton candy, just like some situations are made more fun with alcohol. I wouldn't die without alcohol, just like I wouldn't die without cotton candy, catch my drift?
Just look at this >>73338176 it has fun written all over it and most of the fun was based on alcohol and the state of mind it brings. Yes, we enjoy alcohol, we have fun under the influence of it, we bond with alcohol and despite it giving us a hangover, we do believe alcohol is worth it. None of us are addicted to alcohol, we have degrees, jobs and plenty of money as well as good family bonds and relationships most of the faggots in this site can only dream about. If alcohol hasn't taken all that away from us, despite being the despicable dirtbags that we are, I do not believe alcohol will fuck up anyone who isn't doomed to fail anyway.
>>73331584
Da same thing
>>73330024
>mfw this retard wants prohibition to spawn another wave of organized crime to imbed it's self into government
You are that retarded.
>>73331553
because you say so?
The harm principle and the mitigation of risk are the only principles that ought to guide criminal law
>>73344277
Is it really?
>>73330024
Alcohol is not bad.
Only.filthy subhumans get drunk. When I drunk to much I just fell asleep
>>73344103
We are much more than you'll ever be.
>>73330024
Tequila on the rocks wooo
>>73344493
Organized crime will be a thing of the past very soon anyway.
>>73345244
Are you calling yourself a filthy subhuman?
>>73330024
Yeah... no. I work hard and I want my fucking drink.
