Do you think lethal force is a suitable response to property theft (burglary, robbery etc)? If so, why are you not a Christian and turning the other cheek?
Not an argument
>>73296450
So you agree that it is not appropriate?
>>73296492
Was referring to your pic. I didn't even read your post. Unfortunately, the pic is more interesting.
>>73296213
Jesus turned the other cheek, look where that got him.
>>73296213
>Do you think lethal force is a suitable response to property theft (burglary, robbery etc)?
Yes.
>If so, why are you not a Christian and turning the other cheek?
Because I'm not a Christian, and turning the other cheek is retarded if you want to keep your life, dignity and property.
>>73296213
It's the only way of definitively preventing it from turning into a homicide
>>73296710
back to Heaven with His Father?
>>73296213
>implying the guns are taxpayer funded
Opinion discarded
>>73296213
Where do I go to get my free firearm, OP?
>>73296777
Pre-emptive homocide?
>>73296213
>we can afford healthcare for everyone
lm
ao
This is a fucking retarded argument.
I would be against paying taxes for everyone to have guns.
Everyone in America has the RIGHT to both guns and healthcare.
Fuck off OP, NHS is shit, not having guns is shit.
Australian shitposting is getting annoying
>>73296800
Nailed on a cross and starved to death.
>>73296213
Yes. If you break into my house with the intention of harming anyone inside, I will kill you.
My God is a vengeful God, not your milqtoast personification.
>>73296213
You don't think it's a suitable response to someone breaking into your home while you and your family are asleep? Are you completely cucked?
>>73296813
>>73296821
>>73296865
>>73296873
Americans in charge of not knowing what Obamacare is.
>>73296946
If they just want to steal my (INSURED) stuff, go fucking ahead. If they try to harm my family then and only then is self-defence warranted.
>>73296213
>>73296213
Naw, just get a mean ass pitbull. Had some nigger jump my fence to try and steal my webber grill and my dog grabbed his by the face and wouldn't let go. Woke up to his disgusting coon ass screaming. Pulled my dog off and held my gun to his head until cops showed up. Dudes face was hanging off his skull. He lived and I doubt he will be stealing from anyone again.
>>73297062
Obamacare is taxpayer funded you shillposter
No, but it's not my duty as a victim to give the criminal who is breaking into my house the benefit of the doubt.
I would rather just maim the perp so he spends the rest of his life in a wheelchair using a poop bag but its less paperwork/liability to kill. Plus you only pull the trigger when you intend to fire and only fire when you intend to kill.
The government provides free guns, ammo, and maintenance at the price of mandatory gun insurance?
>>73297126
How can you even tell what their intentions are? Can you read minds?
>Australia
Shit, you guys can't even read words on a page.
>>73297201
No it isn't, spastic, it's just a marketplace with some subsidies.
>>73296213
>Gun is purchased for one's own money, by stating that everyone in America should have a gun, GOP means that there should be no restrictions on gun ownership
>Everyone in America having health care is implied to be that everyone gets FREE or CHEAPER healthcare, since there are currently no restrictions on healthcare besides a price tag.
>First is voluntary and hits only the pocket of person purchasing firearm
>Second is mandatory and hits the pocket of all tax payers
Do people actually use these pictures to promote their political stance?
>>73296946
That's exactly his problem. If you defend yourself against home invaders in Australia, you go to jail. You have to prove (a dead person) had only intentions to harm you, not rob you, or you go to jail.
>>73297126
>he trusts other people to secure his property
And what if the insurance company doesn't pay or holds out on the money as long as possible with bogus investigations and whatnot?
The insurance companies aren't your friends, they're a last resort. They shouldn't be your primary safety net unless you really, really want to get burned.
I can keep my gun maintained by myself and I'm not required to fund other people's guns.
>>73296213
>all those programs of giving any male over 18 a rifle at the expense of the state.
>>73297201
No it isn't, shit posting friendo.
I get a bill for it every month, that I'm forced to pay TO AN INSURANCE COMPANY.
>>73297441
>subsidies
Where do they come from you autistic sperglord
>>73296213
heres a thought: DONT FUCKING STEAL
Im not saying they deserve to die but I am saying that once they engage in the act of stealing my property that I should be allowed to legally decide their fate. If that means i choose to use lethal force then so be it.
>>73297537
Maybe in Estonia but not in actual first world countries.
>>73297668
The government gives money to the insurance companies to SUBSIDIZE. It's not free
>>73296213
For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
Romans 13:4, there is nothing wrong with performing violence for a just cause.
>>73296213
>le turning the other cheek maymay
Luke 22:36:
>Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
>>73296898
>starved to death.
>crucified
Wut
>>73297719
I was talking about the US, but okay. A friend of mine's house got serious water damage in the hurricane that hit the East Coast a few years back and they went half a year without seeing a penny from the insurance company, that's what I'm basing it on.
So how does it actually work in Australia?
>>73296213
I'm not a Christian, Ausbro.
>Steal my shit
>Get shot
>>73298006
All claims settled within 48 hours.
>>73296213
Turning other cheek is for Jesus, we just have to kind of feel bad
>>73296213
Is this picture ironic? Or some people are ths retarded?
Nobody forbids you from having healthcare.
>>73298003
Dehydrated then, whatever. Either way you don't die fast when you're crucified. You'll be in immense pain from your body's weight on your joints and then you'll experience a lot of discomfort from the sun before you finally die.
That's what Jesus got for turning the other cheek.
>>73298110
Could you provide any examples or are you talking out of your ass? Have you had any experience with insurance companies?
>>73297945
But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
Matthew 5:39
>>73298171
48 hours is the law in Australia.
>>73296213
Exodus 20:15
>>73298292
1 sin does not make another ok.
>>73296213
Make me laugh again with your mindless dribble. I am armed. I do believe it can extend my life and any American within ear shot. Demos want disarm us but we will fight and defeat anyone, including the government, that even attempts to size our guns. We are not happy with the eo and ea's the big eared monkey has yoked us to. Meaning the worthless muslims. You and your cucked friends remember this. We are letting you eat your food right now. You should thank us for the food we allow you to eat. Allow me to add; fuck islami.
>>73298328
Shooting someone =/= killing them
>>73298377
I am not going to engage with a racist bigot.
>>73298401
It is the intent and likelihood
Likelihood + consequence = risk.
>>73298401
Anybody worth shooting once is worth shooting twice.
>>73298291
Could you cite that law in its entire wording for me, please?
Those sorts of laws tend to have a few loopholes here and there over here, so I'd like to see how the Australian system works.
>>73296213
Yes. And Because Christianity is a religion of weakness, and I simply do not have enough "faith" to believe in some of its teachings.
>>73298449
>literal nanny-state
>in charge of telling other nations not at all like it how to live
>>73298804
Google, heard of it?
>>73297826
And where does the government get its money...?
Why are you fuckers so stupid?
I don't have to buy everyone a gun but I am forced to pay for 40 million lazy or illegal fuckers that can't buy their own insurance so they can be healthy and cause shit for everyone else?
>>73298418
I am a total racist against Islam. They are the enemy that will be dealt with. I am glad you will not engage. Anyone that is against gun ownership is a total dumbass pussy. You foreign cunts have no idea what it means to be American.
>>73297126
>break-in
>you and your family are told to get on the ground, hands behind your backs
>shut up and no one gets hurt
>comply
>tied up while they ransack house
>criminals decide to rape and murder your wife and daughter
>you can do nothing
they kill you too
Guess you'll be rewarded in heaven though right? Much better than shooting a piece of shit who shows no regard for you or or family's safety.
>>73298909
Consolidated revenue, it didn't tax specifically for this, it already has the money.
>>73298827
>"Just search google!!"
>"I-It's out there, I swear!"
Alright, you've proven your worth. Now get out, reddit.
>>73298968
Islam is not a race
>>73296213
The difference is that no one is forcing you to buy guns.
We should not be forced to buy health care.
>>73298117
Also eternal life in Paradise.
>>73296213
>Do you think lethal force is a suitable response to property theft (burglary, robbery etc)?
Robbery is not a property crime, robbery implies a threat of violence and responding with lethal force is always acceptable to a threat of violence. The same is true of residential burglary of an occupied dwelling. Once you've forced entry you're fair game.
>If so, why are you not a Christian and turning the other cheek?
Because I wouldn't disrespect my ancestors by following a mediterranean death cult that followed in the wake of Rome's invasion.
The medical developments over the past 40 years have not been done cheaply, or without effort. It was a combined effort by hundreds of thousands of critical researchers, scholars, and other highly educated indidividuals putting up massive sums of money and the latest in technology to provide the best chance at survival and vastly extending all of our natural lifespans.
Healthcare isn't cheap, it is not a right.
>>73296213
Such an empty fucking picture probably made by a socialist liberal moron.
>>73297126
>just let people come into your house and take your shit and scare your family to death lmao
Yeah no, nobody deserves to get robbed out of the blue. I don't want to say that all robbers necessarily deserve death, but the ones that do get shot definitely did deserve to get shot by people defending their homes, property, and families.
And what would you think about people without insurance anyway? That they should just let their shit be handed over, no problem?
Why do you care so much about the wellbeing of criminals, who know that they are breaking the law, and are willfully putting their lives at risk by doing so? You know that they basically sign up on the condition that they know they can get shot for what they're doing right? And that they do it anyway? And that many of them would severely injure or kill anyone that they came into contact with while robbing someone?
How can you even argue that self defense isn't warranted against someone that is pretty universally a threat to your wellbeing and safety?
You're fucking retarded if you think everyone having guns is going to reduce violence.
>>73297667
>that I'm forced to pay
you see that part? he is correct and you are wrong
>>73299485
plano texas says hello
One can defend you, the other waste your money.
>>73297062
Obamacare is very much still taxpayer funded you fucking ausshit. Obama had to create new offices to along with the bill as well as offer GOVERNMENT INSURANCE, note the caps, for those who were unable to afford medical insurance form a private company. So yes, we do have to pay higher taxes for Obamacare.
>>73299485
Mercy Fitzgerald Hospital.
>>73299485
It literally does, you retard. You think that because everyone has a different and in some cases more effective way of being a violent criminal that more people are going to be violent criminals? The violent criminals are always the violent criminals. They commit violent crimes with or without a gun. The worst ones even make their own guns in the absence of legal availability: see Australia.
But if you consider the fact that if you were to commit a violent crime in a society where literally EVERYONE can kill you in a single second, you start to realize that some of these violent criminals think twice about violent criminalling. What's more, in such a society, violent criminals very often have justice and consequences for their actions, where they otherwise wouldn't. Tell me again why everyone having a gun is so bad for rates of violent crime.
>>73296213
Yes. I'm am atheist. I don't have to get cucked by criminals.
>>73298827
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2011C00193
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2016C00302
Nowhere in those documents is a 48-hour period mentioned. Maybe you could enlighten me a bit more since you're actually familiar with your own laws?
funny how leftists, people inherently and radically anti-Christian, portray themselves as great interpreters of the Bible and teachings of Christ when they cherrypick the words and sayings to fit their skewed, violent and moronic ideology
>>73297305
This
GOP logic : Every American has the right to own a gun
Democrat logic : Every American has the right to own a doctor
>>73299022
OR pay for anyone else's
>>73296213
I do turn the other cheek when I'm turning to get to the holster.
>>73300381
Situational awareness, brah, never take your eyes off the target. You ought to be able to draw without looking. Do some fucking drills.
>>73296213
Of course it is. If a man breaks into my house or robs me, i am supposed to resist him. Since he is a criminal, i assume he will not have concern for my safety and is willing to hurt/kill me either to rob my shit or just to get away. Since he is willing to do that, it follows that i should be able to kill/ badly injure him to protect myself and my property.
I'm not a chritcuck so i don't need to "turn the other cheek". Turning the other cheek is an act of weakness and submissiveness, it is a philosphical/spiritual argument for cuckoldry.
It's not homicide, they provoked it
If you provoke an animal and the animal kills you, whos fault is?
>>73298958
Is this a real car? Or is it a joke
>>73300472
When you know you have the upper hand, you'll try to play fair. You must make sure you have the upper hand, though.
>>73299052
>>73296213
To respond to you;
I'm not a christian. And castle doctrine laws allow me to blast any fucker trying to steal my shit or attack my family as such people won't wanna fuck with the guy with the Remington 870 under his pillow.
To respond to your picture;
Because it costs more to treat syphilis than to buy a gun and some bullets.
>>73300672
Wait.. What are you saying, that if someone is threatening your life but you're pretty sure you've got the advantage... You'll give them a fighting chance???
I really hope that's not what you're saying
>>73300672
> play fair when you are winning
You are an idiot. That kind of thinking is a good way to make sure that you lose and get yourself kicked to death
>>73296213
Be a nigger loving slave on your own time. You may do what you want in your own home, and you may subjugate yourself as much as you please.
Where I come from, we kill men who forcibly enter our homes. You're not welcome, and you forfeit your life upon entering. There is no more discussion.
>>73300918
>squandering the only chance you've got to show/teach some criminal scum manners.
ISHYGDDT
Yes, that's what I'm saying. I know it sounds "retarded".
>>73296213
Yes. Because as a creature crafted in the legacy of the divine Creator, I am imbued with the natural authority to defend both my person and a territory which I have claimed as my own, while also having the option to flee if I should so choose, the same as any other creature.
I may aspire to be more, but on this earth, I will always be creaturely.
>>73296213
>If so, why are you not a Christian and turning the other cheek?
jesus never said to let people kill you and take your belongings
>>73298117
Jesus died in a few hours you fucking heathen, read the Bible. He was nailed to the cross, and stabbed.
>>73301320
OK so you're joking.
Or you think you're a comic book superhero
>>73296213
Yeah I'm sure healthcare will protect me from a home invasion. What a dumb fucking image. Kys OP
>>73301728
Either way it wasn't a nice death which was my original point. We don't have bible study classes or sunday school so everything I know about Jesus comes from other sources.
>>73301733
Just because our stories aren't written in comic books doesn't mean that some of us aren't superheroes.
>>73302027
kek
I can answer both these questions with the same response, "theft is wrong and perpetrators should be punished."
>>73296213
>Everyone owning a gun is a personal choice about spending your money towards your own protection.
>Obamacare led to countless amounts of Americans having their coverage costs double while having visits/procedures cost more, and long waits and lacking doctor visits due to the new demand.
Health care should be like your own defense, there is measures in place for if you choose not to personally invest in it like the police and hospitals but anything more than that is an individuals choice of to and what degree they want to take care of their body and their property/family.
>>73298117
Jesus was doomed to begin with. Punching one of the ones judging him wouldn't have gotten him anywhere.
In fact it could be worse since he could have been crucified with ropes instead of nails, which is an even slower death.
Lethal force is absolutely justified. If you turn the other cheek to people who have no moral compass you accomplish nothing. It's like saying "turn the other cheek" during a shark attack, it's just stupid not selfless.
>>73296213
>refusing to listen to the argument is not an argument
>Turning the other cheek
You mean spreading your asscheeks for anyone who breaks into your house?
>>73302621
He literally knew Judas had sold him out so why wouldn't he have fled?
I know there's a massive difference between shooting someone and running away, but OP's comparison is flawed to begin with and should be discarded before anyone actually takes it seriously.
>>73296213
>sell the shirt off your back and buy a sword
>>73296213
First I'll address your image: Nobody expects the taxpayer to buy a gun for everyone.
>Do you think lethal force is a suitable response to property theft...
Absolutely, those who commit such crimes are literally stealing a portion of someones life. Fags like to claim that "stuff" isn't worth someones like, but I beg to differ. Every piece of "stuff" is representative of whatever portion of time in a person's life it took to acquire it. By stealing "stuff", that portion of life is being stolen, and everyone has the right to use deadly force to stop someone from stealing their life.
Also, part of engaging in such criminal behavior is the conscious decision to risk death, it would be remiss of me not to facilitate that risk.
