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What if

>multiculturalism works
>muslims and blacks aren't going to destroy our countries
>race is a social construct
>everyone should be treated equally
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>>73280870
What if you got rape by a pack of wild niggers?
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Sounds fucking gay desu
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Immigration DOES work.
From an economic point of view atleast and that all the elites care about; how much money they can make. You think they give a shit about morals? No. They just want their economy to get bigger.
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What if /pol/ is actually full of bigots and xenophobes?
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Think about how nice and civil people were a couple years ago before all of this bullshit happened

There's no trust anymore, not even with your own kind.

Whites used to stick together, and now it's just cuck, media fabricated self hatred, and anti social people.

The world has never been so divided, and government so corrupt.

I believe it's part of the plan for globalism. Make everyone dissatisfied with the way things are, let it crumble, reinstate new government with false promises. Less freedom, in return for more security.

I would say fuck it, I don't care anymore, but then I'd be another suicidal white man playing right into their games.

I would say have many kids with white women, but they will live a torturous life and be treated terribly by savage low iq crossbreeds bent on revenge for their ancestors.

I really don't know what to do at this point other than hope Trump isn't a fake... maybe this all could be stopped.

>american btw
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>>73281516
>Immigration DOES work
I guess numbers are hard.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
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>>73280870
Well, if it works, how come it doesn't it work?
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>>73281516
More people = more taxes.
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Look at the facts Hans, integration isn't happening. Multiculturalism is demonstrably achieved by subjugating and eliminating the host culture over time.
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>>73280870
>>multiculturalism works
that's not a good thing. it's not a good thing when it works, that's the baseline. just functioning is what a nation with a single unified ethic group does already. if you're going to bother to mix up the bag, it better turn out better than it was.
>>muslims and blacks aren't going to destroy our countries
doubtful, all they've done since the beginning of time is destroy. that doesn't seem to be ending any time soon
>>race is a social construct
lmao only the biggest idiots believe that
>>everyone should be treated equally
they already are, the problem is shitskins aren't at the same level as whites/asians so they just complain and demand more aid to make up for that.
if the world was truly ruled by equal rights, blacks would not be able to survive. neither would a lot of other minorities. it would be too tough for them
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>>73281734
>>Immigration DOES work
>I guess numbers are hard.

You didn't get his point you kneejerking cunt.

>>73281516
>From an economic point of view atleast and that all the elites care about; how much money they can make.

Emphasis on THEY. Elites drive down wages by making every job in a market already struggling to keep people employed flooded with competition.

Outsourcing just wasn't enough, so now they import them by the millions and even socialist countries like mine are talking about making "exceptions" to minimum wage laws and job standards - we gotta get these people working you see.

In reality the imported people rarely work, but they do drive wages down and they do cut standards and while the population suffers, profits go up.

Even our pro-refugee media had on several experts that all say "it's a good investment long term" cutting out that they immediately followed that with "for the already rich or well educated".
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>>73280870
>>everyone should be treated equally

Everyone should
That means niggers/spics/women should be held to the same standard as humans
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Doubts are natural, I have them too.

It is important to form an opinion on the best information that you have available. Therefore you need to respond as new information comes to hand. If you do not you risk becoming as dogmatic as the modern far left.

The value of a place like this is because it is not a sanitized representation of reality. Sure, there is bullshit, but nothing is off limits.

Your views should be flexible, it is credible to have doubt. The people who would seek to control what can be said or known ultimately are in any circumstance the enemy.
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What if

>multiculturalism works

Maybe in Berenstine world my friend.
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>>73280870
>What if
>>multiculturalism works
does it look like it's working right now?

>muslims and blacks aren't going to destroy our countries
does it look like they're improving your country right now?

>everyone should be treated equally
Actually I agree with that 100%. As long as it doesn't mean you have to give German citizenship to any of the 7 billions who ask for it.
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>>73281951
To be fair when has multiculturalism ever been about integration? Show me where multiculturalists ever promote integration. It's always about acceptance and tolerance of others.

On the surface, fair enough. I can honestly live perfectly fine with someone else next door being different than me provided they don't cause problems, try to steal my shit or assault me. In reality, nigs gonna nig.

>Somalis in Edmonton

Lmao. Multiculturalism is a failed experiment, and even the UN admitted it in a study.
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>>73281516
I think even from an economic standpoint it's non sustainable though. They're importing third worlders with no skills to do entry level jobs. This creates more consumers and drives down wages which they say increases the economy, however this isn't sustainable as the number of entry level jobs is finite as is the demand for kebab shops etc. Factor in the costs of translation, increased crime, etc and it is most definitely a negative. Additionally immigration essentially created the welfare class as before immigration the poor would be forced to work as they were needed for the economy, however now they are just left to stay on the dole and immigrants are brought in to do menial jobs until they realise they can just go on the dole as well and so they cycle continues
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>>73280870
What if C-A-T really spelled dog?
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>>73280870
well, that would mean every scientific research done on it would be wrong, which would be odd...
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Congratulations, OP.
You have discovered the ultimate red pill.
Proceed to swallow it with caution and some of Jamal's semen.
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>>73280870
try applying to an American college as a nigger quota and you'll see how much of a social construct race is
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>>73280870
>multicultralism works
has for ages. there's not an ethnic group on this planet that hasn't borrowed something from another group

>muslims and blacks aren't going to destroy our countries
only if you condemn them all without acknowledging the ones trying to assimilate

>race is social construct
the values placed on race are constructs

>everyone should be treated equally
anyone with a modicum of self respect knows this already.
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>>73280870

>>multiculturalism works
Except it doesn't for obvious reasons.
Having a country with many opposing cultures creates disunity and infighting.
Having a country with one culture creates unity.

>>muslims and blacks aren't going to destroy our countries
Islam is a proven society killer and conflicts with Western cultures so yes Muslims will.
Many Blacks can potentially be salvaged but only by removing welfare and other entitlements and forcing them to assimilate.

>>race is a social construct
Genetics are factual and cannot be debated though under the right leadership and circumstances a multi-ethnic society can work fine but its far more difficult and obviously not preferable to homogeneity.

>>everyone should be treated equally
As they have been in the West for many decades now.
Things like affirmative action and race based laws are the things which separate us and give some unearned and unfair advantages.
Without the SJW's supporting the victim class game we would once against return to an equal society as we sort of had in America from the 70's to the 90's before affirm action and SJW shit got out of control and when assimilation rather then multi-cult garbage was still somewhat the norm.
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>>73280870
Europe wants people with low IQ that will never even attempt a college education and will work the shit jobs and fire out children.

We are working on our race based social hierarchy just like the US. The white minority will live like evil jews on the top of the brown working class.

Not really what I want but it could be worse. I already own multiple properties and this wealth will only inflate when the browns start coming here too and need an over priced place to live in Dublin.
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>>73280870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mmskXXetcg
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>>73280870
Look at what it's done to tensions in the EU already, and the fact that the muslims and somalis are already a drain, financially, on your country. America didn't give hand outs, which is why immigration worked for us until the Democratic party took power. Now that handouts are being given wholesale, it isn't working anymore and we have people like Trump who are becoming ever so popular because of it.

'Multiculturalism' can work, but it isn't working now. And if it was working, a migration crisis wouldn't even be a thing, because the majority of these people would not even consider the idea of coming into a western country and actually working.
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>>73280870
Du willst die Wahrheit?
Linke liegen falsch.
Rechte liegen falsch.
Liberale liegen falsch.
Autoritäre liegen falsch.
Sozialdemokratie schützen. Nicht auf dumme Außenseiter hören.
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>>73280870

It would be really bad. Thankfully, overwhelming evidence consistently demonstrates that all these positions are wrong and that /pol/ is always right.
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>>73283084
Unfortunately Germany/France has Europe snookered. If anyone breaks ranks from the EU on their own they will be financially ruined.

It requires a crises that encourages multiple nations to leave at the same time which then renders the EU non viable. That is the only chance nations in Europe have or we will become just like the US with a federal government and a multiracial society.
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>>73282003
Sad but true
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>>73280870
What if
>multiculturalism isn't the issue, it's the erasure of white culture
>muslims and blacks are simply going to replace our communities with their own and make them hostile toward us
>race still has tangible effect on your life and how others treat you and right now being white makes you the world's punching bag
>pushing people into successful positions based on their race or gender isn't treating people equally
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>>73280870
What do you think
all this is for?
Your own personal amusement?
To stimulate you
intellectually?
You are what you are, anon...
a son of a bitch
like the rest of us.
Now for God's sake,
take some responsibility...
and do what has to be done.
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People should be treated according to how they behave
>talk shit get hit
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>>73284619
>>talk shit get hit
That is the culture of niggers.
Some dumbass on the street can talk shit to me and I would just smile and ignore the monkey because I am not an insecure loser who cares what random people think of me.
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"multiculturalism" is a symptom of a disease. It isn't inherently bad or god. The fact that the world's zeitgeist is focused on "culture" and "race" is the problem. We shouldn't be looking at a room full of one race and thinking "hmm there should be more of these other races (or genders, this applies to that also)". There's something wrong when racial issues become the world's top priority.

The world's focus should simply be on what we do and what our merit is. But it isn't. Simply because of the media that's been hammering down on us for generations. We've practically evolved and have become wired to think about race now.

And it's stupid because it's a superficial issue. And before you say "uuum it's not just skin, you know niggers are really dumb, right?", let me tell you that there's another way to identify niggers that doesn't require you to look at their skin: the way they talk, the way they behave, what they've accomplished, who they admire, what their goals and dreams are, etc...

I want a world that doesn't focus on multiculturalism or uniculturalism or anyculturalism.

I want a world that is composed of purely individually empowered and self-sustainable people looking out for their own self actualization and trusting that the people around them are also doing the same, ensuring that they would never mistrust one another as long as they both behaved in a mature and productive way. These people would all be unified by their personal goals to achieve and to contribute something universally beneficial to this world.

The focus on race and culture is the lazy man's focus.
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>>73280870
>muslims ... aren't going to destroy our countries

This is the only true thing in the world

>>73281516
Yes, if you import skilled migrants in small numbers and assimilate them. Not if you import unskilled migrants (eg africans and muslims) en masse, just give them handouts and let them, for example, rape and try to convert to their cult 1400 native girls for over 10 years under the complete knowledge of your local authorities.
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>>73284729
how fucking dare you disagree with my opinion who the fuck do you think you are?
i hope you give into depression faggot and just end it all because goddamn i fucking hate you.
fucking disagree with me what the fuck.
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>>73281516

This is just wrong on so many levels. You do realize 80% of the immigrants will never work right? And most of them are illiterate in their own language.

This is nothing but genocide.
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>>73285191
>mfw I wanna kill myself but can't because I live in a no gunz state
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>>73280870
What happened to your germany?
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>>73280870

It's called Canada.
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>>73285068
>And it's stupid because it's a superficial issue. And before you say "uuum it's not just skin, you know niggers are really dumb, right?", let me tell you that there's another way to identify niggers that doesn't require you to look at their skin: the way they talk, the way they behave, what they've accomplished, who they admire, what their goals and dreams are, etc...
you didn't list the way
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>>73280870
>>multiculturalism works
That depends on a lot of factors, such as the similarity of these cultures and its portions. In Europe, despite we overall don't have a great portion of foreign population, we're facing a lot of problems, ranging from radicalization and crime rates to cultural shock and identity differences*. The main reason for these problems is the concentration of these cultures in neighborhoods, in which they don't usually "learn" some essential values for a good coexistence. In spite of that, we can't ignore the fact that there also a great amount of people who are doing well, but that's because they are a minority that need to take these essential values, since they're surrounded of people of a different culture.

Apart from that, we need to take in account the reaction of the native population*. There are a lot of people who won't never accept multiculturalism, and they obviously will react negatively to that. To make sure multiculturalism works, all parts have to be tolerant without exception, which is obviously too idealistic. Leftists don't want to accept the fact that there are a lot of foreign and native population that won't take these essential values. They will keep promoting multiculturalism without being capable of fixing the main problem of it, so It's pretty obvious that multiculturalism is failing.

Summary: I think it works but only in a very specific conditions.

>>muslims and blacks aren't going to destroy our countries
Pretty much what I already said.
>>race is a social construct
I honestly think it is. But that doesn't mean we have to destroy our diversity of ethicities.
>>everyone should be treated equally
Not everyone acts in the same way, so not everyone deserve the same conditions.
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>>73280870
There is too much at stake to leave it to chance. We can't do the experiment, have it fail, and then go back to the way things were.

Besides, all of the data and experiences are demonstrating that we are correct.
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>>73285325
>I am not an insecure loser who cares what random people think of me.
>anxiously ensuring you have the last word in an online arugment
nigger you are the definition of hippocrisy
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>>73285611
Yeah, well, atleast I can spell hypocrisy correctly you dumb kangaroo.
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>>73280870

Then why did the Roman empire die because of Multiculturalism?
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>>73281516
Maybe it works for the type of people that fund the conservative party, and they work for labour in a different way because they all vote for them

But for the common man, immigration gives you nothing and worse, it directly takes away from your quality of life. Lower wages, higher house prices.

And if that isn't bad enough, the people we're importing don't even integrate and accept our values, instead they slowly take over towns and cities, alienating people and denying us our own country through birth rates alone.
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>>73280870
black pigeon speaks has an excellent video on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTROCGb5qj8
he may or may not be controlled opposition, but this video is spot on.
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>>73281516

Does not.

Eventually the owning class will gain bigger profits but overall welfare will NOT increase by importing persons from third world hell holes to lower your salaries. Europe does not need more workers ffs. Absolutely nothing supports your argument. National GDP might increase due to the fact that states need to borrow more money in order to cover the expenses but gdp per capita will decrease. Germany and its economy DID benefit from immigration 10 years ago but that is long gone.

That's one bullshit argument.

>>73280870

>everyone should be treated equally

Why? People are not equal. Someone is always better regardless of how you measure the value of a human life.

Dumb shit.
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>>73285784
lmao
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>>73280870
If it worked, it would be working already.

Sort of like the people you're refering to.
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>>73281516
>Immigration DOES work
It does. But only if the immigrants are the same race as the country they're immigrating to.
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>>73280870
Science shows multiculturalism is a mindfuck that doesn't work
Muslims are destroying our countries
Race is biological
I can't treat retarded faggot trannies as equal
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>>73285506
I just did. That was the list, after the colon.
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>>73280870

Equality is the biggest lie of our generation. Some races are superior Somecultures are superior. "Equality" always just means dragging everyone down to the level of the most worthless members of society. Like forcing a genius in school to take special ed alongside drooling downies.

Human life has no intrinsic value. "Humanity" aka consciousness has no physical reality to anyone but yourself. Your value is determined by the changes that you enact upon the world. Middle eastern muslims, at least in the modern day, contribute nothing. In fact, they contribute a net negative - only serving to consume and destroy. They are even lower than animals, as animals can under all circumstances be expected to act in their own best interest. Muslims act against the best interest of everyone including themselves. I believe that the world would be a better place if they were all killed.
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>>73280870

>multiculturalism works
then how come Iceland or Japan is so rich?
>muslims and blacks aren't going to destroy our countries
they already destroyed their own countries, all they bring is death and suffering
>race is a social construct
are you fucking retarded?
>everyone should be treated equally
this would mean the end of humanity.
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>>73280870

but they are wrong.
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>>73280870
>multiculturalism works
>muslims and blacks aren't going to destroy our countries
>race is a social construct
>everyone should be treated equally

CULTURAL MARXISM
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>>73280870
>multiculturalism works
We can already see it doesn't all over europe.
>muslims and blacks aren't going to destroy our countries
There literally isn't a single successful muslim/african country.
>race is a social construct
See abose, only for science and culture, and compare them with asians instead.
>everyone should be treated equally
No, because some people are really fucking dumb.
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>>73286234

Your pic, London in 2025.

>humans are equal
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>>73285385
eh, theres no such thing as multicultralism,

its a multiracial monoculture

notice he's wearing the same uniform as everyone else

one set of laws

where there is different cultures like chinatown they stay to themselves, there is no mixing
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>>73281516
Who benefits economically though?

The guy who gets paid minimum wage and is replaced by a migrant who works for less?

"The economy" isn't a fixed structure.

The guys that are selling containers to live in would love 10 million more people to come here.

Then there is the risk analysis: if we integrate every single migrant and there are ZERO people that are terrorists, looking for handouts or other criminals they could provide 20bn to our economy.

BUT if we fail, they could cost us 400bn.

If you thought betting on the stock market (not twlking about "real investors") was risky then this is batshit crazy.
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>>73286983
Forgot sauce:
http://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2016-04/fluechtlinge-arbeitsmarkt-integration-kosten-studie-zew
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>>73280870
>>multiculturalism works
It works when people actually integrate, muslims don't integrate, their ideology has no place in a non-muslim community.
>>muslims and blacks aren't going to destroy our countries
They already caused quite a bit of damage with no positive contribution, deaths and protests against native traditions have happened thanks to these two groups.
>>race is a social construct
It isn't, science proves that it goes deeper than social upbringing or environment.
>>everyone should be treated equally
I agree, don't give outsiders special treatment and benefits for being outsiders, force them to assimilate into the community and treat everyone equally too, the biggest racists are still the outsiders even if the media wants you to believe that white people are the only racist, xenophobic, islamophobic people.

Now if only the majority of the people understood that you can't run a country on feelings alone.
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>>73281516
immigration works if you only bring in the best, like the US did until about the 80's when all the fucking amnesty for illegals nonsense started.

open borders immigration as europe and the US are now effectively practicing will pretty much destroy us all
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>>73287178
>the majority of the people
You mean women.
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>>73280870
It will work. It's going to make us just as turd world as everyone else.
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>>73280870
If that were true they wouldn't have to push so hard, while denying reality every step of the way.
We may end up on "the wrong side of history", but we're not incorrect.
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>>73287309
Female voting rights were a mistake.
You can't let women have a say in a world that is run by men.
They just don't understand.
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>>73287178
'Multiculturalism' works when it's just multi racialism. It doesn't matter what you look like if you believe in the same cultural ideas of the society you live in.

When each community has their own opposing cultural heritage and try to live in the same country, that will never work.
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>>73287521
Yeah that's right, it doesn't actually work with culture.
And we see now how it is destroying us, I cannot believe how people can still be tolerant towards muslims when they are the ones that have created no-go zones and sharia controlled zones.
It's not the Indonesians or the Chinese or other European immigrants who do that, they seem to integrate fairly well.
It's only the muslims who cause a lot of shit with their backwards and incompatible ideology which simply doesn't belong in our countries.
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>>73287799

Fucking islamophobic bigot
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>>73287901
Please don't report me to the police, I'll be a nice muslim loving man!
R-religion of peace, right brother?
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