Corbyn, he's the only one who will bring about any real change.
Snp
liberals
elton john
>>73272078
SNP
Like the actual party, going to make some overtures at Conservatives. Both for legitimate ideological reasons and to piss off the Greens for killing independence for at least 6 years.
What the fuck were they thinking in Edinburgh Central, Jesus Christ.
>>73272124
hear hear
Y'all cowards don't even vote UKIP
>>73272124
this desu
Vote...?
Why would I want to vote for any of these wankers who prop up a corrupt system
>>73272078
Didn't London just vote in a Muslim mayor? WTF Brits.
>>73273549
>Slumdon
>>73273549
just the type of reactionist approach this board apparently exists in contrast to
2020: UKIP/Conservative coalition. Farage/Osborne
2025: Full UKIP win
>>73273549
It was between a Muslim or a Jew
Who would you pick?
>>73274027
>Osborne
>Siding with UKIP
He's an even bigger slimeball than Cameron.
>>73274027
Kek, Osborne getting elected.
>>73272124
gas yourself.
Corbyn's plans:
>nationalise everything
>print more money to increase budget (literally in the manifesto.) These guys have no fucking clue how basic economics works.
>import 2000x more pakis, accept refugees
>>73272124
>>73273243
>>73273510
>>73272124
>>73273243
>>73273510
Hello Anti-Whites.
>>73275029
None of course? You resist and point out the absurdity in the system. London is white mans land, not semites.
>>73277645
This guy gets it
>>73277464
kek
Corbyn is barely to the left of Miliband at this stage. Listen to McDonnell for 10 minutes and you see that they've actually bought the "move to the centre" meme. (albeit in their case, trying to hold seats instead of trying to win) Instead of realizing that Corbyn could now run on a promise to reintroduce slavery and privatize the NHS and he'd still be attacked as "too left wing"
(I'm not pro-Corbyn or far-lefty, this is just a testament to how incompetent Corbyn is.)
>>73272124
Not good change, he'll import more voters than we do already and then complain when all our infrastructure is overloaded
>>73274027
Conservative, I doubt but I hope Osborne becomes PM NEETs and proles must suffer.
Probably Labour.
I want a candidate who will oppose austerity and cuts to public services.
Dave. Or whoever replaces him, Boris or George
>>73272078
A muslim.
>>73273549
London is over run with them, they voted for one of there own
>>73272078
Ukippin' it.
>>73272124
>pic related
>it's you
>>73272078
Ukip
Labour
>>73279478
>>73279766
>>73279123
>>73272124
>>73273243
>>73273510
Fuck yeah comrades. Greetings from Australia.
>>73272189
>>73272773
Good lads. A fellow in my party over here is ex-SNP and got his political education there and he's legit as fuck. And my mate's girlfriend was a Scot and didn't know political details from a bar of soap but still had her head wired on right because her parents taught her to vote SNP and hate Thatcher.
>2017 With Britain out of the EU the Conservative party selects Osborne, who has proven he's able to navigate crisis's after restoring the economy after the GFC.
>2020 the British Public elect a huge Conservative majority, and put their faith in the PM Gideon Osborne, who's seen as a figure of stability when contrasted to the risky choice of Corbyn.
>2020 amid the chaos of the EU's collapse, In the emergency Autumn budget PM Osborne announces generous Corporate and Business Tax cuts, in the hope to attract fleeing European business. He also promises to cut Income tax across all levels in the 2022 budget.
>2021 for the first Budget of the new year PM Osborne implements the universal credit, cuts and abolishes all childcare and family benefits, the NHS is also reformed, smokers, drinkers and people with other unhealthy habits must secure their own private health insurance now that the NHS will not cover them.
>2022 PM Osborne's 2020 vision is almost complete the promise of Income tax cuts are delivered, VAT is raised to 23%, along with fuel duty, Inheritance tax is completely abolished. The tax Cuts are delivered the aim of promoting meritocracy and pragmatism.
>2023 all of Labour are sued out of existence for Libel.
>2024 The monarchy are sued out of existence for Libel.
>2025 PM Osborne becomes President Osborne and David Cameron returns as Vice President
2026 Jeremy Browne (now a Conservative) becomes PM
>>73280644
>abolishing the monarchy
I shiggy my diggy
>>73280644
Don't forget
>2021: The Greens prevent the SNP from getting a majority at the Scottish Parliament for a second time. PM Osborne uses this as an excuse to deny a second independence referendum in spite of more than 50% of the vote going to pro-independence parties. Scotland reverts to it's standard job as a laboratory for new social policy. Greens blame the SNP for not preventing cuts imposed from above with powers they don't have while rejecting blame for keeping Scotland in the increasingly right-wing union on the basis of "muh pro indy majority"
>2022: The Scottish Conservatives are brought under more centralized control for dissenting from UK positions too strongly.
>2025: The Scottish Parliament is abolished outright.
>>73281039
That's fine as long as Natalie Bennett isn't leader Australian Greens are the worst.
>>73281485
Scottish Greens are technically a separate party with two leaders, Patrick Harvie and a woman who isn't relevant because she's not Patrick Harvie.
If they aren't Harvie (good) or Ross Greer (bad) you can overlook the Scottish Greens entirely.
elections are suspended in times of national conflict, OP
Does Britain ever have libertarian candidates?
>>73281763
UKIP is the closest thing we have to a libertarian party.
>>73272078
They're going to write in Trump.
>>73281845
I hate Cyprus. Eat a dick
>>73281804
There's a Libertarian party, but it's a joke.
>>73274027
Osbourne is so dislikable. Boris for next leader imo
>>73272124
Yeah, with the change being less British, more brown. Nige is literally the only option that isn't an existential threat to Britain and our culture. BNP are socialist authoritarians which would actually start oppressing British people, ironically under the guise of "we're protecting you", and all the other parties are planning white genocide, even the tories.
>>73281895
Cyprus hates you.
>>73281608
That's interesting to know, fair enough.
So, there are still people who consider Tories....that's voting for Jeb Bush.
>>73282162
Thanks Sweden!
JUST
>>73281931
People care about the BNP any more?
>>73273549
>Choice between Khan or Goldsmith
They made the right call.
>>73281958
yea that's why every cunt came here
>>73282304
This. Goldsmith is a fucking idiot.
>>73282302
Not really, I'm just saying why they're not a good option.
UKIP.
I live in a contested seat between Labout and Conservative, so it's a fairly safe bet that my vote won't be for the winner, but it'll count towards the national total and perhaps make both of the parties pay attention to me as UKIP continues to draw votes from the left and right.
Fuck Labour and Conservatives, their parties are beyond a joke.
Fuck Lib Dems because their party barely stands for anything and I hate the Orange Bookers.
Fuck Greens because they're Marxist fuccbois.
So it's either UKIP because I want out of the EU, or independent because I'd like to help some guy win his deposit back for running.
>>73282794
>Orange Bookers.
One day I'll have to read the Orange book.
From what I've picked up it's just Blairism combined with a few token Liberal stances and without the total hardon for illiberal anti-terror legislation.
>>73282794
Labour's probably going away.
labour if they get rid of corbyn and have a relatively sane moderate type as leader with reasonable suggestions for increasing housing supply, improving infrastructure and sorting out lagging productivity
probably lib dem otherwise, they're not much of anything but they're generally well intentioned and have some ok ideas
i disagree with most of what the tories stand for, though some of their actual policy can be alright on some things
ukip are a mess and mainly act as a protest vote for angry poor people who think they've somehow been let down despite having plenty of opportunities to educate themselves and broaden their horizons. I might take them more seriously when they stop trying to get rid of actual competence such as suzanne evans and don't resort to crooks like neil hamilton.
greens are for dumb hippies
>>73273994
could you please explain and justify EVERY SINGLE WORD of your absolutely bafflingly incoherent 15-word post kid?
Just to get you started: what is 'reactionist'? Do you mean 'reactionary'? I mean, is it even POSSIBLE that you are SO new that you think that /pol/ exists "in contrast" to "reactionary" views like opposition to Muslims becoming mayors of the capitals of white Christian nations.
Words cannot express how much you need to go back....
>>73272078
Voting is a waste of time
The UK government doesn't care about me and I don't care about them
>>73283554
>moderate type
Out of interest, who would you consider a moderate type? [i.e. are we talking Blair or Burnham.]
Is eliminating the deficit important to you?
>>73283672
Why are you on the politics board then? The memes?
>>73282360
Every white person in Cyprus is British. What the hell are you even talking about?
Comrade Corbyn shills are out in force
>>73283746
>Why are you on the politics board then? The memes?
I bet a fair amount of money on politics
/pol/ is often far ahead of the curve which is useful
there are also patriotic fools here who serve as good contrarian indicators
>>73283919
Of course half the fun are the memes.
>>73282794
Please tell me about this "Labout" Party. I've never heard of them before, are they popular?
>>73272124
This
>>73272078
Labour. They are the most popular party in Britain for a reason.
>>73284157
They used to be, but now they're dead in the water.
>>73283675
>Blair or Burnham
>Blair himself, one of - if not the - worst PMs for a generation
>Andy 'PFI' Burnham, Blairite trash
The fact that the PLP seems to think all it had was an image problem and that Blairites whose voting records can easily be looked up within a minute on Google and TheyWorkForYou should still be at the top of the party trying to represent it and run for its leadership just shows how much of an utter joke Labour is.
No fucking wonder Corbyn won, they're absolute cretins who rely on the tribal voting of people who still actually have hope for British politics.
Fuck Labour, it's rotten and the PLP is absolute scum.
>>73284157
Ah, monsieur! Le Parti Labout, c'est la defenders d'labout premiuem! La supereiur defendres d'Labout!
Vive Labout!
>>73284157
it was a typo senpai, I'm on my phone, I'm so sorry for any distress caused if I misled you to believing there was a new party in the UK
>>73283675
well i'm not sure if i've quite pinned down what exactly burnham stands for - aside from being a party man, liking the nhs and mentioning he's northern and working class
i am slightly to the left of blair, i think some of new labour's biggest mistakes were the use of private finance and continuing the shift of the economy to rely hugely on banking, but am pro 'free' markets (while recognising negative externalities and the importance of regulation to have them run effectively). I also think blair was a bit too laissez faire with regards to community cultural integration and ghettoisation and in general for all his bleating about education, education, educatoin was misguided in trying to sort it out (targets about going to university etc, they don't do much for inequality at all).
I found myself broadly in agreement with labour's last manifesto from what I saw, while wanting to removing ideas of rent control, energy price caps etc.
The deficit is not particularly important to me now. It was of course a major issue when it was hovering around 10% of GDP, but as long as the debt is going down as a % of GDP that is what matters. Personally I think the Tories deficit reduction measures have ultimately reduced growth and are now making it much more difficult for Osborne to do anything to get out of the trap he has created for himself - as could be seen in his last statement. Counter-cyclical spending is a mainstream and accepted idea in economics and the tories have been lucky that compared to other european countries we have our own currency and an independent central bank that enacted good monetary policy at the zero lower bound. If you have a glance at GDP figures they have basically been saved by migration from european countries.
>>73272124
Yeah, he'll bring change alright.
Just not good change.
Get ready to become Sweden 3.0
>>73280373
Kill yourself.
>>73284550
I like you, comrade poster. Blair was too far right, but that doesn't mean we need to go all communist party.
>>73284656
Fuck off, Nigel
>>73284635
Corbyn isn't a feminist tranny SJW, he's an old school lefty gommunist. Huge huge difference.
He might gulag these people.
>>73284710
"muh snp"
Literally if anyone votes SNP they should voluntarily hang themselves before Nige does it for them. You included, shitposter.
>>73284263
The thing is, Burnham has an image of being Miliband in a Thunderbirds costume with a 96 badge. So he's often considered to not be a moderate.
Which is what I was eventually going to get at, the idea Labour is "too left wing" is mostly a myth. Their problem is that they have absolutely no credible leadership candidates and are perceived to be too left wing. If you could get a competent leader in, you could actually run on a more left-wing manifesto than Miliband without being perceived as "too left wing"
The idea that simply moving rightwards will save Labour makes me wish Liz Kendall was leader. Blairite tears when they lost 2020 despite promising to kick every person on benefits in the teeth and set them on fire would be wonderful. And like the far left's dark mirror image, they'd draw the same dumb conclusion: We lost because we weren't right wing enough.
Blairites managed to lose Scotland to the SNP by largely ignoring it and sending second rate politicians to Holyrood, then split the parties voting base between the desires Blair-era immigrants and traditional Labour voters in the north (now going UKIP), the very core of Labour's voters is at risk of abandoning them and to a large degree already has.
But of course, the only problem Labour has to a Blairite is being too right wing. If only they move right on the economy their voters will come back. Even if you get them to concede Scotland is a lost cause [especially now that they've dropped to third place] they'll fall into arguing that they just need to ignore Scotland, move right and win in England only. [While maintaining the SNP cost them 2015 singlehandedly... except it was also down to being too left wing...]
>>73284550
Did you consider 'Red Ed' moderate?
I find myself in a vaguely similar position, being on the centre-right of the SNP, though strangely I'm still more concerned with inequality than Blairites I've come across. [Like, just ignore it bro. Rising tides lift all ships bro.]
Labour is pointless now that the Tories stopped being weird over gays and Europe
>>73277620
>>73277533
>>73284869
>Not liking the competent alternative to Labour, especially now that it's likely to work with the Scottish Conservatives as a minority.
>Thinking "refugees welcome" means anything in a devolved parliament which doesn't control immigration, from a leader who was at risk of having the left-wing vote sapped by Greens. [as it was]
>>73284869
>>73285030
Essex must be great for you! I hope you enjoy it.
[bagpipe music plays in the distance]
>>73285139
Not sure why you've got that at me. I'm SNP.
The SNP are a broad church party. Unlike Labour, they're just good at keeping the wings of the party united.
>>73284873
miliband was pretty moderate desu, what policy (aside from the rent control/energy cap populism stuff) wasn't? i may well be wrong/forgetting things, but balls made sure they were going to say they'd cut the deficit and then aside from that there wasn't that much to them - i think if they had david miliband with basically they same manifesto they would have done much better, ed is/was a dweeb and people don't want to vote for a party led by a dweeb
i agree on the equality point, blairites are wrong to ignore it, but corbynites are suggesting disastrous policy to fix it
>>73285267
That was just a mistake. Good job SNP. Sorry comr8, you're good.
Ah mein, ye're guid an shite, yeh! Fookin' Es En Pee, woat a good pack ay cunts!
>>73277464
>>print more money to increase budget (literally in the manifesto.) These guys have no fucking clue how basic economics works.
haha no he knows that will fuck shit up.
I bet he's doing something similar to what Trump is doing with the debt.
Use it as a bargaining chip to get other economies to slow down technological development.
Why?
Because human development has not caught up. We've never lagged this far behind technology because the technology we're using makes sense to only the very informed or the very intelligent.
If we do not fix that. The economy will only continue to get shitter.
Also, we may be heading to a technological singularity if we keep going at this rate.
Humanity needs to stay more intelligent than AIs or else it could do the most unpredictable things. It could be the pinnacle of humanity, or the end of it.
We need to work out the kinks and everyone needs to be aware of the full potential of the technology we're using.
So we'll slow it down temporarily.
The only way we can force other countries to do the same is by using the debt (which they bought) as a bargaining chip.
I bet they think we're attacking them. We're not, we are saving you from the mess we got ourselves into.
>>73284873
The problem is the public experience of Labour under Blair and Brown gives the party itself (not its policies) such a bad image and distrust to the middle class. It doesn't help that most of the party influence and leadership is still around from Blair because Corbyn can't and won't purge them (probably because then he'd just be left with the unions on the other side to try to compromise with alone).
The Conservatives are the centre and have the middle class vote now. They're barely a right/centre-right party anymore. The only obstacles to Conservatives staying in power indefinitely since Labour are absolutely (and rightly) fucked are the right of their own party (since Cameron is liberal and centrist as fuck)and any incoming recession/economic crisis/Eruope that might ruin the public image of Conservatives.
Even Europe seems unlikely to ruin the Conservative Party though, sad as it is, so for the foreseeable future they can sit on the centre that Blair used and defeat a broken Labour time and time again.
Labour doesn't have a policy problem, it has a history problem. Until the traces of Blair are removed then they won't win the middle again because there's no trust.
Also this of course excludes the possibility that the Conservatives fuck up and elect a terrible leader like Osborne.
hopefully these guys
>>73280644
I wish this fanfic version of Osborne actually existed instead of the towel folding idiot we actually have for chancellor
>>73284204
>UKIP 12%
The fire is rising.
God speed Britain.
We must save the anglosphere and the world again.
>>73285755
blair or no blair labour are going to be the party the took us into iraq and caused the financial crisis by overspending for a while
one is true admittedly
>>73284958
The Tories did more to integrate us into Europe than Labour ever could. Labour were the eurosceptic party once upon time
>>73285542
Did you forget about Miliband wanting to make Islamophobia an actual illegal offense?
>>73285542
>what policy (aside from the rent control/energy cap populism stuff) wasn't?
Arguably his mansion tax, but more importantly it was his image. People viewed him as being a left-wing deficit-runner.
'Red Ed' was disparaged as a 'Red Tory' in Scotland by supporters of the SNP which ran on a 99% similar manifesto (to be fair they sent a Blairite up to run the party's Scottish branch office.)
Blairites seem to miss the most important thing of the Blair years: the importance of spin and a good image.
Corbynites are useless, though I've some fondness for them for sending Blairites into a fit. He's no chance of winning. As he tries to moderate his manifesto back to where Miliband's was all he does is hurt the centre-left more because his personal image will always be "left of Miliband"
>>73285755
The image problem is very important. The party really needs new blood.
I've heard, but not verified, half the problem is amusingly that Blair/Brown killed off the careers of anyone who could challenge their positions in the party - leaving the party fucked once they were gone.
Cameron is to the right when it comes to spending cuts, especially where they tend to fall (and with making tax cuts in such a situation.) but I can completely imagine Blair doing the same thing while portraying it as even more urgent. Europe might even be a unifying thing for the Conservatives, given how they've split on the issue like Wilson's Labour.
>>73286151
I have to wonder where we'd be if Miliband hadn't conceded defeat on the deficit, accepted he was going to lose the election mentally and threw everything at discrediting the notion we need a surplus to pull the overall narrative left even if leaving the Conservatives in power. (invoking economists who say that kind of thing, etc.)
>>73284204
but they are not the most popular party
>>73288313
By that image they are.
This is not a subtle bump
>>73272124
Based Corbyn. The only labour politician I can get behind desu.
He seems a fair guy and he tells jews to fuck off.
>>73290137
would you seriously vote for the most anti-White politician, just because he also hates Jews?
UKIP.
>>73290828
>the most anti-White politician
>Corbyn.
Laddie, show some RESPECT
>>73291367
He's an Irish Nationalist who has become Shia and fucks Arab women, at least you can sorta see the Alphaness of it.
Jezbollah is pure cuck.
>>73291624
You said most.
(This picture really being more a testament to how shit at PR he is than anti-white, but whatever. p.s. Tony Blair at the Hague when.)
>>73284302
on dit le labeur, cher monsieur
>>73291761
>most
most anti-white, even.
His positions are more 'anti-white', even if more alpha on a personal level.
