Convince me why or why not I should be an Anarcho-Capitalist.
>>73231901
Not an argument.
>>73231901
It just makes sense. NAP as a base, everything else falls into place.
>>73231901
It's not a matter of convincing but of educating yourself.
Ancap revolves essentially around economics, how well read are you into those?
>>73232724
kek
>>73232702
No. It's about morality and principles
>>73232724
lame strawman.
I think I'm out.
Statism:
> People are bad.
> We need a government made up of people.
I'm not a 15 year old shitposter who just read his first Rand novel, perhaps OP should try this as well.
We already have anarchy at the international level. There is no world government, therefore world anarchy + international law.
>>73233445
DELETE THIS
>>73231901
>when you ask an ancap to rationalize private property
>>73233110
All with the exception of Ayn Rand are based jews.
I know it's bait, but fuck it.
In case you didn't know Rothbard made a case in defense of fascists and nationalists in Europe, the man was not an autistic spas like allot of deus vult and storm fag idiots around here and understood quite well that sometimes freedumbs need take a backseat while more urgent matters are dealt with, namely defeating leftism.
>>73233563
Hmm? Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.
The State is not about stopping crime.
Guess what the State is about?
>>73233327
Anarcho-Capitalism
> People are bad.
> LOL we don't need laws because people wouldn't turn into murders and thieves over night with out the government.
PICK ONE
>>73233891
Legality != Morality
Please everyone read the most important book of our time, Larken Rose's magnum opus, The Most Dangerous Superstition:
http://www.mensenrechten.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/the-most-dangerous-superstition-larken-rose-20111.pdf
>>73234060
Larken Rose sucks. He has no original thoughts and the philosophical political depth of a dried up puddle.
>>73234060
Lol please.
This theory completely denies the fact that the only reason many many people don't commit crimes is because they don't want to spend 25 - life behind bars.
>>73233891
>implying ancaps are against laws
>>73233891
If you can't trust people with freedom, how can you trust them with power?
>>73234173
Bullshit I guarantee you've never read him.
>>73233712
removing delusional people like you from the gene pool so I can live in peace
>>73234222
The biggest deterrent to all crimes (by single thugs, mafias, and rogue states) is an armed populace.
>>73234506
Nope. Allowing Supercriminals like politicians to get away with their crimes.
I imagine when a criminal Hillary is elected Supreme Leader, a large percentage of this board will see the futility of politics and become anarchists themselves.
>>73231901
The problem with anarcho-capitalism is that you're going to get a government, whether you want it or not. You may end up calling the leaders of the government warlords or something of the sort, but there will be power structures that arise.
As much as I hate governments, I recognize that it is better to try to create a government that is as benign as possible instead of eschewing government all together. Power vacuums must be filled.
>>73234419
Then your not a ancap
>>73234320
You can? You just stop them (or punish them) if they commit a crime.
>>73234844
No such thing as a "power vacuum" nonsense.
There is no world-government. We already have international anarchy. Just bring that down to the individual level.
Political Authority is a total religious superstition. It needs to be outgrown.
>>73234563
And how do we know that people won't start shooting their neighbors for not brushing their teeth in the morning?
Who holds those people accountable?
>>73235168
We elect those politicians.
I'm referring to your image.
>>73233712
m-making money?
>>73235564
Do you? Or do you just think you do?
Major elections are rigged bro. That is redpill 101.
>>73231901
It's yet another autistic Jewish intellectual cult that adheres to absolute a priori unbending logical principles with no empiricism involved which lead to absurd conclusions that need to be rationalized away. What's funny is that Rothbard, the king liberjew himself, abandoned the movement later in life as a mistake and started going fash once he saw his vision splinter into left libertarian faggots (C4SS) and beltway corporate shills. Ron Paul its last dying breath.
>>73231901
Anarcho Capitalism is unachievable at this point without lots and lots of deaths.
Libertarianism has been bastardized by the corporatists..
Idk what to think Anon.
>>73235668
Yes, but only for the private owners of central banks. 100% of your income tax goes to pay interest on the national debt to private bankers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grace_Commission
This was also confirmed by whistleblower/insider Aaron Russo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ
The state is just a giant racket to generate money for Private Central Banks.
>>73232724
this is the best one
anarcho capitalism=feudalism
>>73235738
I love how Rothbard supported David Duke
>>73235954
>>>/autism/
>>73233643
>Rothbard not an autistic spaz
>absolute unbending a priori "non-aggression principle"
>"if ancap led to disaster I would still press the red button to destroy the state anyway because liberty and stuff"
That guy was the most autistic political thinker in history. Worse than Rand by a country mile.
>>73235912
>Libertarianism has been bastardized by the corporatists..
WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THIS NONSENSE!?
What corporations are funding Libertarianism????
I don't remember Ron Paul's record breaking fundraising in 2008 ever having even one corporate donor.
If Libertarianism (True Free Markets) are so good for Mega Corps: WHY DOESN'T GOLDMAN SACHS FUND RON PAUL INSTEAD OF LEFTIST HILLARY???
Damn this fallacy is getting old.
>>73231901
Any career criminal is practically an anrcho-capitalist.
It's liberty gone insane (hence the anarchy element in name).
A true man has restraint on his selfish urges and does what an alpa should and lead his pack. An anarchist aka outsider has no pack.
>>73236099
Guess what? Not an argument.
>>73236157
Because monied interests have huge influence in the government this is more profitable to them than the free market. Ancap doesn't have an equivalent solution for bribery of the DROs.
>>73236366
http://reason.com/blog/2011/07/20/being-libertarian-may-cause-au
>YOU MUST OBEY THE NAP
>why?
>...
>>73236157
>WHY DOESN'T GOLDMAN SACHS FUND RON PAUL INSTEAD OF LEFTIST HILLARY???
Because Goldman Sachs didn't get rich wasting their money.
>>73236157
Because America is a two party system.
>>73236502
That's amazing
>>73231901
>>73236413
If there is no authority, what is there to bribe?
>>73236540
If free markets are good for megacorporations, why do they back the party most opposed to free markets?
(In this case, Goldman supporting Hillary)
>>73235738
>Ron Paul
>Anarcho-capitalist
Epic memes.
My problem with libertarianism is that if you lock two of them in a room and make them talk, they will undoubtedly disavow each other. So much disavowing occurred that that the most contrarian formed Anarcho-Capitalism.
That being said, I agree with most of it.
>>73236502
based Stirner
>>73236780
>Libertarianism is anarcho-capitalism
This meme needs to fucking die. An-caps need to stop soiling our name.
>>73236764
The people with the most money would have a huge influence over the DROs. Mafia rule or feudalism would be inevitable.
>>73236775
It's just a matter of degree and they're part of the same intellectual trend.
>>73236912
The philosophy of Libertarianism was founded by an AnCap (Rothbard).
The Libertarian Party was founded by an AnCap (Rothbard).
It's Statists that have to stop Culturally Appropriating the word "Libertarian".
>>73232724
"Hey, I'll give you guys protection for a lesser portion of your salary".
>>73232826
I disagree. In my experience most ancaps who focus on morality and principles end up going ancom because of the issue with property and who should be its proper owner. You either adopt a consequentialist POV here or defending ancapism becomes almost impossible (ie. "My great-great-grandpa took these lands from the indians, are they morally mine?").
>>73235912
Ancapism can happen in any moment senpai. Some may argue ancapism is the default global system since states don't have an überstate (except the EU). There is some interesting shit going on with free/smart cities and seasteading, so I wouldn't lose hope.
>>73231901
Do you support me being shot?
>>73237200
Actually, I do.
>>73236912
I didn't try to imply that. I implied that AC started (or got popular) because edgy libertarians can't stop disagreeing with each other.
>>73237043
As if the Superclass does not already buy off politicians and judges?!
Government is the worst mass murderer in history, and you fear a world without it...
>>73236912
Embracing nationalism is the only real way you can disassociate with them. If you accept an ethnicity or race as the basis for social organization (or a layer along with family, etc.) then you escape the logical trap of libertarian ethics and hyperindividualism that leads to ancap.
>>73237200
I'd shoot you for a dollar.
>>73233445
remove this you fuck
>>73232652
>US in a nearly total free market during the industrial revolution
>Poverty drops 1% every year
>Government decides to "Fix" the poverty problem
>Poverty continues
>Clearly this is the fault of the free market
>>73232724
Why would these people not just pay someone else for protection?
Are you a massive fucking faggot?
Yes: Anarcho-Capitlism
No: You're fine.
>>73237200
Gulag then shooting.
Very soon were going to hit the singularity and none of this discorse will matter.
>>73237514
RARE
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Did you know that if you stop spanking your children and legalize heroin you'll be living in a free market paradise with Star Trek level tech within your lifetime?
>>73233161
>>73237043
>feudalism
This would be the inevitable step one. Walled feudal cities where you have to obey the "TOS" of the ruling classes family in order to keep protection within the safety of the community, on threat of banishment.
There would also be implicit rules like
>oh if you kill someone or steal our shit we can't let you run away we will kill you cause we don't want to incentivise murder and theft from defectors
>oh by the way since you will undoubtedly want to have children and families within the safety of the community they will have to have you enter the social covenant on their behalf since they are too young to consent, but since we are spending resources protecting and caring for them they can't just leave when they come of age because they need to contribute first and pay an exit """"fee""""
Let that brew for a couple centuries and you end up right back to where we are currently. Ancaps and libertarians are living in a dreamworld same a communists.
>>73233712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCozh_vbYdM
sovereign citizen detected
>people are willing to pay taxes and support police officers so clearly if you make the system voluntary everyone will chose completely chaos over security.
>>73237949
Legalize degeneracy? No please.
>>73238216
>willing to pay taxes
>implying the government won't skewer you for dodging out on them.
>>73238216
b-buh those she-sheeple are just being held hostage and have gubbamint stockhold syndrome. we just need to get them woke and everyone will want to live in a glorious ancap society.
never mind that no one takes us seriously and our movements are always dead in the water no matter how many decades or new iterations role by. Never mind that all the modern civilizations of the world independently evolving from the same natural anarchy has a current ancap government as a beacon for other nations. DONT BULLY US YOU FUCKING STATISTS IS ALL YOUR FAULT THAT OUR IDEOLOGY CAN'T COMPETE IN A FREE MARKET OF IDEAS
>>73237949
>Legalize heroin
>Remove welfare state
>everyone who uses heroin dies because their life is no longer funded by hard working people
>only the people smart enough to no use heroin are left
I see no problems
>>73238613
>what is renouncing your citizenship and getting the fuck out
>what is a minor exit tax which doesn't apply to poor basement dwellers in the first place
You faggots never put your money where you mouth is. If your ideas are so fucking great you could easily create a voluntary covenant where you pool donations to settle in some fuck-all island that is for the most part self-sustaining or even some chunk of land in your choice of failed african state. You can hire your private guards or militia or whatever the fuck you want and enter the free "market" of nations to fail or succeed on the merits of your ideology.
but no, just keep shitposting in your comfy first-world society
>>73233161
this is amazing
>>73238645
fucking idiot, the point isn't that problems will be solved by turning everything into to a complete lawless wasteland, the point is that by subjecting those who provide security to the same free market principles as everyone else will provide the best security possible.
>Slavery is common all around the world, and movements to abolish it never really pan out so we should just let slavery be a thing for the rest of time.
>>73239040
Ill move to Somalia, when Statists move to North Korea.
>>73239290
I guess it's an election year, and all the Fascists crawled out of the woodwork. When Hillary is anointed by her megacorps, maybe they will see how idiotic the political system is.
>>73239290
>trying to use slavery as objectively immorality
>ignoring the fact we don't have slaves currently
>behaving as if this argument would have worked if we were debating slavery in the historical context
barely a step above calling me a nazi you inverted SJW. If ancap ACTUALLY existed in some form or another in a meaningful sense rather than being some arm-chair philosophy spewed ironically by first world white children.
For fucks sake communism has a better track record than ancap, because at least communist states lasted decades before imploding.
>>73231901
Because government keeps people from being animals
>>73239040
>Why don't you just sever all connections with everyone around and gather libertarians from around the world and centralize all your material wealth and purchase a large landmass from a country and create an entire country from scratch.
>it's easy
yeah I can't image why someone would rather try and better an existing sytem
>>73239290
What's wrong with slavery?
>>73239711
great rebuttal faggots, except for the part where we are happy living in the dreaded "state" we already exist in. You faggots are the ones bringing kike-lead revolution to the table and trying to convince us to destroy the concept of a nation-state for your fucking experiment.
yeah that whole thing really turned out great for russia, but hey! At least the Bolsheviks had a similar zinger when the peasants told them to move to France if they wanted a republic!
>>73239833
Because government only killed a QUARTER BILLION in the 20th century alone! So we have to have a state. We have to keep doing the same thing over and over.
Here's a secret: The state is not really about "law and order". It's about creating a protected class of Private Central Bankers.
>>73240106
That just proves my point further. Can you imagine the chaos if we didn't have a set of laws and order for "people"?
>>73239922
>existing system
>that you constantly shit on as being oppressive and and evil
You are as bad as Muslims, worse because you are home-grown traitors that would be literally nothing, not even human without the elevation of the nation-state and society built by the very system you try to undermine. JUST like the kike Bolsheviks who destroyed Russia.
DAY OF THE NOOSE FUCKING WHEN?
>>73239743
It's not an objective immorally. It was a concept that existed for nearly as long as man itself until society decided it was time for it to end. There is no reason the same can't apply to the state.
>>73240299
>DAY OF THE NOOSE FUCKING WHEN?
No need to rope them, just dump them somewhere in the rainforest or something. In fact, if every nation had Trump Walls you could just kick all of these cucks out and they can do whatever they want ""voluntarily"", but they're not getting back in.
>>73240445
yeah, and when we abolished it the arguments looked at societies that had already disavowed slaves and the ethical and economical implications of keeping them.
Not HUR KEEPING SLAVES IN THE CURRENT YEAR? GET WITH THE TIMES SHITLORD.
>>73240299
Modern society has been uplifted just as much by free market principles as it has by your precious state.
>You're JUST like the Bolsheviks who preached the literal opposite of what you want.
>>73240029
If you live in a country with a Private Central Bank, you are already slaves to individuals likely of the Khazaric variety. No need for them to "lead a revolution".
>>73240679
>Slavery ended when people looked at societies that were already ending slavery and saw the benefits of ending it.
As stupid as it sounds I understand your point.
How is it any different from looking at the benefits the free market have provided and applying it to more facets of life?
>>73240719
Their message was revolution and betrayal to the existing, long established system of government. The specifics are arbitrary, the end result is the same shit of kikes inflaming the masses to betray their own kin and country against their own interests.
Also, perfect is the enemy of good. You can't hold the flaws of our current government and ignoring how fucking great things are comparatively to historical microcosms of high-liberty societies like the Old West or medieval Iceland.
You have no evidence based arguments other than philosophical rhetoric and knee-jerk allegories. You have the intellectual capacity of angry children. You have nothing constructive you can point to as a meaningful to your cause because as I have said, you cause is dead in the water because deep down humans do not work the way you want them to.
If and when ancap societies sprout up organically and thrive on their own merits without being artificially propped up by hi-jacking existing governments I have no problem revisiting the issue and doing comparative analysis but until that very unlikely day you traitors can pay taxes, shut the fuck up, or get the hell out of my country.
>>73240284
The "laws" written by politicians are nothing more than their opinion with a gun.
You can't change Right and Wrong by writing words on a piece of paper.
It is entirely possible to have immutable, logical law without politicians. We already have something like it at the international level. Bring that down to the level of the individual.
>>73241012
>free market
>ancap
These things are not equivalent. Free markets are a product of a strong and healthy nation state and hi-trust (and therefor hi-liberty) white society.
That said there are plenty of fucking problems with the current globalist free-market that could end up being literal poison to society as we understand it. We need smart people knowing to protect our interests just as a rowdy teenager has to have daddy tell him he can't do meth in the house of invite his nigger muslim friend to live with him.
>>73232724
Feudalism is actually good though
>>73241426
>We already have something like it at the international level.
>this is his argument
HAHAHAHAH wew lad. Maybe check on the affairs of the EU, UN and Europe these days.
>>73241367
>get the hell out of my country
Not your country. It belongs to Private Central Bankers.
They are dismantling and selling it off piece-by-piece to their crony friends in places like China and Saudi Arabia. Because they have a State that allows them.
But in truth: There is no country, just lines on a map.
I love how you are about to be raped by Hillary with a glass-shard encrusted acid-shooting strap-on, and you're more upset that some are choosing not to be slaves.
The Stockholm Syndrome is strong with this one...
>>73241367
At no point did I or, as far as I can see in the thread, anyone state that a revolution should occur and overthrow the established government. In fact just a few posts ago you were crying about how stupid it was of me for suggesting that the current system should be improved. We live in a society just as much shaped by free market principles as having a state. If you can't look into a history book and see how this made the difference even just a few years ago during the Cold War I don't know what I could say to change your mind.
>>73241612
And I fail to see how Anarcho CAPITALISM isn't formed primarily around the power of the free market. Just because the State allows the free market to exist in a diminished fashion doesn't mean it would suddenly becomes impossible without a state.
>>73242640
Actually I can sum this up much quicker.
>>73241367
>strawman
>>73241612
>ad hominem
>>73242184
>uses example of illegal racketeering
>But LAWS are just gun-point oppression man, free association.
Your autism is showing. There is literally nothing wrong with racketeering in a free-market society according to ancap, particularly if say gang X like to go around smashing windows and gang Y is the only ones offering protection for money. In that case the idea of "if you don't like it, move" applies to both scenarios.
Here is another scenario I touched on earlier. Your parents joined a private walled covenant that owns and retains the property rights to all its holdings. This voluntary covenant also reserves the right to be final decider in all matters that fall within its domain, and all associations sign contractual agreements to this stipulation.
This covenant has education systems, food resources, stores, medical services, legal arbitration services, ect that are superior to anything outside of itself realm, to the point where its implicit suicide for the people to leave even though they joined freely in the first place. All these resources are exchangeable due to some arbitrary labor threshold which is rewarded with vouchers.
So now these families wish to have children, and they want their children to benefit from the perks of this covenant but there is a problem. The children are not able to give meaningful consent until they come of age so the covenant initially allows the parents to consent on behalf of the children.
But there is yet another problem, most of the children who come of age have come to expect and take for granted this society they were born into, and the idea of leaving for most of them is a traumatic notion. But they also are not happy with a lot of the way the covenant is run so they start making a fuss about being represented fairly and changing the status quo even though they never had legal right to anything in the first place.
the animal spirit
An anon once just wrote "Eve Online" as an argument against AnCaps.
So yeah, basically anarchy with many different factions fighting for control of resources, territory, and ideology and people aligning to those factions for protection.
>>73243656
The few children who DO decide to opt out of said covenant pose another problem; resources that weren't compensated by merit of them living inside covenant are not repaid upon leaving the village, and there is no incentive for exiting defectors not to cause problems, steal, cheat, or even murder before escaping. Once they have escaped it violates a NAP to pursue them and forcefully return them to a community they never agreed to subject themselves to.
Not to mention insider knowledge of the workings of the community that could be sold for profit to rival hostile factions that choose not to follow the NAP because raiding and pillaging is more lucrative. Suddenly anyone defecting the covenant for any reason is a liability and would put the entire thing at high risk, so you forgo the ridiculous idealism, impose harsh exit taxes and swear to pursue anyone who violates the laws of the community, whether they agreed to them or not no matter where they flee.
Sound familiar to you?
>>73242976
>not an argument
Must be nice to lie on your ass and cherry-pick things that you can be a sophist about rather than deal with any real criticism.
>>73231901
It inevitably shifts to corporate capitalism as power centralizes; man was arguably anarcho-capitalist in Ur-societies, but gravitated toward charismatic "Big Men" to lead their interests.
As long as humans are pack animals who desire leaders, anarcho-capitalism will never persist beyond an idea.
>>73244312
I literally linked to a more detailed response in the post. If you want to just spin endless hypotheticals instead of actually arguing go ahead.
>what if a magical place existed were some people were vaguely unhappy with an amazing utopia so they self deported after becoming criminals and joined a magical gang that somehow accrued huge amounts power despite not producing anything.
How horrible.
>What if 2/3rds of everyone in a state voted that rape was legal and anyone who wanted to leave was to be shot on sight.
We can spin endless hypotheticals all night. It gets us nowhere.
>>73244041
EVE is a universe were death does not exist and all Corps are still subject to CCP.
>>73243656
>But LAWS are just gun-point oppression man, free association.
This is a BULLSHIT strawman.
What you are calling "laws" are just politician scribbles at the behest of Private Central Bankers.
You can't make something right or wrong by writing words on a piece of paper.
Right is right and wrong is wrong. Immutably.
The NAP is fairly close to being a logically consistent universal morality.
This is your pathetic "law": I'm allowed to rob you because I write words on a piece of paper that says so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngpsJKQR_ZE
>>73245662
>Right is right
>wrong is wrong
no, morality is subjective and you need a monopoly of force to enforce your agreed upon morality
you ASSUME people will just follow the NAP. Just like communism, you work on ASSUMPTIONS.
>>73246016
Logic is not subjective. Self-Ownership is 100% logically provable using Argumentation Ethics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentation_ethics
Statist "law" is just pieces of paper. Scribbled by politicians. At the behest of their Private Central Banker owners.
>>73246016
>you assume people will just follow the NAP
You don't have to assume shit. If someone violates it you retaliate. People who work cooperatively will easily outperform people who fuck over each other opportunistically.
>>73245662
>Waaaaahhhhh fairness
Can you stop being such a fucking cuck and think about the good of the whole of mankind for once? Fucking universal morality codes and bullshit? Christ you're almost as bad as the lolbertarians
>>73246512
>provable
>using philosophy
having a laff
>>73231901
You should NOT be one because it is simply a utopian ideology on the same level as 'true' Communism. An Anarcho-Capitalist society would ultimately be one controlled by extremely powerful, super-rich warlords commanding armies of PMCs and swathes of territory. It would be chaos, right up until China or Russia annexed the utopia with an organised state-funded military.
Not to mention the lack of roads.
>>73246751
>Argumentation ethics asserts the non-aggression principle is a presupposition of every argument and so cannot be logically denied during an argument.
>>73247242
Meant to quote >>73246512
>>73231901
Unattainable pipe dreams. The sooner you realize that your abstract thoughts have no bearing on the real world the better. Don't be that faggot that thinks he's the special one that knows something that nobody else does.
>>73246512
>Argumentation Ethics.
No other ancaps took this seriously though. David Gordon in particular tore it a new asshole.
>>73247023
You are only semi-literate.
I wrote LOGICALLY PROVABLE. Logic is 100% objective. Logic can be used to prove things.
Nothing to do with "philosophy".
>>73247621
They merely do not understand it.
Argumentation Ethics is god-tier.
This meme is literally it, in a very clever way. Don't dismiss the simplicity, it is more powerful an idea than you can possibly comprehend at the moment.
>>73248177
Yeah, I know exactly what you meant you disingenuous faggot. You are the one painting the word "proof" an emotional weight with the hope that the rubes who read your statement go "golly gee well if its 100% provable I guess that's it"
You can create a presupposition construct and then have a "proven" philosophical model that meets the internally consistent criteria of said presupposition, but it doesn't mean much of anything as soon as you try to apply it to REAL FUCKING WORLD without objective data to compare it to.
You faggots are constantly accusing all your opposition of being non-arguments but as soon as an ideal straw-man or cherry-picked example of how the state isn't perfect or makes mistakes you have no quarrel with being intellectual dishonest and using it as a shining example of how your circle-jerk ideology is the correct one followed by a mountain of ad hominom, bad logic, anecdotes, and intellectual signalling to try and brow-beat people into swallowing your Hufflepuff colored pill.
>>73248177
>Don't dismiss the simplicity, it is more powerful an idea than you can possibly comprehend at the moment.
Then explain it jackass, and keep in mind Gordon is a trained philosopher and Hoppe is not.
>>73248657
>You faggots are constantly accusing all your opposition of being non-arguments
That is just the Molyneux and Hoppe fanboys. Most of the ancaps I've talked to have either admitted they really aren't that into the philosophy/economics and just think a private law system would be cool or read a shit ton just so they can begin to correct the shitty mistakes the Molyneux-ites and Hoppeans make.
>>73246016
>morality is subjective
found the self-loathing satan worshipping cuck.
Ancaps are completely out of touch, this is fucking sad.
>>73249388
It is though.
>>73248740
You will need to use property if you intend to even argue with me. If you argue against property, what are you using to argue? Do those neurons belong to you? Are those *your* hands typing at the keyboard?
>>73249388
What's the deal with Satanists and psychotic Statism anyway? I've never seen a Satanist whose religion wasn't government.
>>73246889
>Can you stop being such a fucking cuck and think about the good of the whole of mankind for once?
>Fucking universal morality codes and bullshit?
Is that a Universal Statement?
