Two children are accidentally shot every week in the U.S. by their parent's guns.
Should parents be allowed to put their children's life at risk by leaving their weapons unsecured if they want to?
Is the child's death punishment enough, or should there be legal consequences for being shitty with gun safety?
We routinely charge parent's with criminal negligence if they let their children access poisons or drown in swimming pools without supervision, however we usually only charge parent with negligence in shooting cases if the parent tried to hide their negligence by disposing of the gun, or something similar. Should that change?
Note: I am not advocating taking away anyone's right to own a gun, or to use it.
no you dumb ass, abortion is legal
>>73231442
>Two children are accidentally shot every week in the U.S. by their parent's guns.
Stop making up stories, kike.
>>73231442
>2 children
>Most likely 17 year old gang banging niggers trying to take selfies with their "GLAWK FOATI"
>>73231442
I love you.
>>73231442
>two per day
its actually more like 1 every 3 days
daily reminder that food poisoning kills almost 6 people every day
>>73231442
Two children are accidentally shot every week in the U.S
So 2 out of 323,769,519 people died every week from guns, yet you think you can argue about "muh gun safety"...
Seriously? Are you mentally retarded?
>>73231632
Two per week. It's not two per day.
>>73231442
>We routinely charge parent's with criminal negligence if they let their children access poisons or drown in swimming pools without supervision
That almost never happens.
Medical accidents kill at least 200,000 a year and health care providers are charged and convicted at an even lower level.
If you are worried about saving people's lives you should fix most of the large numbers first then look at the little shit.
>>73231918
oh even smaller chance
thanks m8
>>73231683
>>73231924
So, are you going to answer the question, or just misdirect like a kike?
>>73232039
Since there's drownings every singe year, it should be mandatory to close all beaches.
That's your retarded liberal logic.
>>73232039
>misdirect
your initial argument is a red herring and insignificant
>>73231567
Can confirm the only death by a gun that ever happened in my small town (since the revolutionary war) was a couple of black teens playing with a shotgun. Our population of blacks went from 6 to 5 that day.
>>73232127
>Since there's drownings every singe year, it should be mandatory to close all beaches.
Yeah, that's exactly what I said when I said "Note: I am not advocating taking away anyone's right to own a gun, or to use it."
Answer the question, kike. I just want a yes or a no.
>>73232150
So your answer is, yes, parents should be allowed to give their children access to guns under any circumstance? Even to toddlers?
>>73231442
>leaving weapon unsecured
>not training your children from a young age like your supposed to
They only have themselves to blame
>>73232475
Of course, but the question is, should they be punished to discourage it further, or is losing their child enough?
>>73232399
>So your answer is, yes, parents should be allowed to give their children access to guns under any circumstance? Even to toddlers?
Tons of parents let their children use their guns in a safe and consistent manner.
Just because one set of parents does something stupid doesn't mean every single one of them have to pay for it.
I respect every parent's right to teach their kids how the 2nd amendment works
>>73231523
Fpbp
>>73232537
>discourage safe usage
why
2 kids per week is literally nothing, its a non-issue
there is more evidence of parental neglect in so many other facets, guns are not even remotely high on the list
>>73231442
>Should parents be allowed to put their children's life at risk by leaving their weapons unsecured if they want to?
they're already not allowed, by state law.
every state.
fuck your gay thread.
>>73232626
Not true
There isn't some arbitrary age to where you can handle a gun
>>73232387
Sounds fantastic.
>Dad had all kinds of guns, gun racks, etc etc
>Taught me at a young age how to handle firearms
>Explained to me in clear terms that guns KILL people, didn't try to dress it up, straight out told me
>When I was in the scouts I taught the rifle merit badge after I went Eagle, nearly beat the shit out of this dumb kid who was swinging his rifle around
>When I got my first apartment with a fat, retarded MUH GUNS fedoralard he left guns and bullets all over the place and pointed it at me two or three times
Teach your kids about guns and they won't be fucking retards. The end.
>Implying all of these gun deaths aren't blacks acting tough and shooting their kids or friends by mistake
>OR they could be legitimate self defense numbers liberals twist because muh fee fees
>>73231442
Pretty disturbing. If those kids had been armed they could have defended themselves.
>>73232039
I thought it was clear that my reply implied that changing the law to hunt down the tiny number of child firearm accidents is a waste of time and money when their are hugely larger killers that can be dealt with first.
>>73231442
No one SHOULD INFRINGE UPON THE RIGHTS OF CITIZENS TO SHOOT THEIR OWN CHILDREN!
>>73231442
Who gives a fuck if another person on this planet dies??? There are so many people it doesn't fucking matter. Penicillin has saved more lives than any kind of gun ban ever will. Saving every worthless life is impossible.
>>73232554
>Just because one set of parents does something stupid doesn't mean every single one of them have to pay for it.
Where did I say that?
>Is the child's death punishment enough, or should there be legal consequences for being shitty with gun safety?
>>73232626
So then you disagree with SHALL NOT?
>>73232813
But what if they parents don't? Should they be punished?
Let me put it another way. We all know about trigger discipline. Let's say some guy decides to walk around town (in an open carry state, with a permit, whatever) with his finger on the trigger. Should he be allowed to put everyone else at risk for being a moron?
>>73232888
So you think it's a good idea, we should just do other regulations first? Stop redirecting.
>>73233133
>Where did I say that?
You're implying it by saying that parents should somehow be more restricted by making a reference to gun safety as a ploy to push control
who fucking cares about the sub 100 kids that died to retarded causes
>>73233133
You just described my roommate. He loved to come home and brag about how he would point his guns or knives at anyone who pissed him off.
Yes, they should. And yes, they did. I reported that asshole after I moved out and he got his shit taken away.
>>73231442
>accidentally
>>73233133
>So you think it's a good idea, we should just do other regulations first? Stop redirecting.
How many times do I need to say it's a terrible idea and a waste of time and money before you get it?
>>73232718
His point is we already have laws and criminal charges for this. It's called criminal neglect.
>>73232718
You are not allowed to use a firearms without adult super vision unless your over 18 sorry
>roughly 30,000 people in the US die from gun related incidents(homicides, accidents, suicides, etc)
>0.009% of the US population
>gun grabbers butt devastated over the death of 0.009% of the population
>0.009%
>>73233480
Which is what I described before, parents are 100% legally allowed to show and let their children use guns under supervision.
>>73231609
>>73231442
Two per week out of a population of 300,000,000+? That's such a small percentage it doesn't even count as margin of error.
>>73231442
ALL
OF
THEM
>>73233603
Follow the thread m8 you replied to someone saying its illegal already to LEAVE them unsupervised with a gun with
>Not true,There isn't some arbitrary age to where you can handle a gun
which is completely irrelevant to the point when you are reminded they can not use the gun in any situation legally and the parents cant leave it to them.
>>73233929
legally with out supervision*
>>73231442
Children with a family are not the responsibility of the state.
>>73231442
... and thousands of children protected every week by their armed parents.
>>73233125
>>73233278
>>73233764
>>73233583
>>73234050
>>0.009%
>Two per week out of a population of 300,000,000+?
>who fucking cares about the sub 100 kids that died to retarded causes
>Who gives a fuck if another person on this planet dies???
I didn't know we had so many niggers on /pol/.
>They ain't my kin, why do I care? Shiiiiitttt
>>73233428
Good, that's an actual answer instead of a moral equivalence fallacy. Thank you.
>>73233480
And what about the people who give guns to people under 18? (Or leave them where they are easily accessible). Can't punish a corpse. (Or jail a toddler in general really)
>>73234198
I see you can read well. Should people who can't read be allowed to own guns?
>>73231442
2 every week is 52 * 2 = 104 every year
In a country of 300 million that's 0,34 shot for every million citizens - far less than victims of car accidents, pool drownings or fires. There's never been a proposal for pool licenses though.
Brize of freedumb
>>73234267
>I have the right to interfere with someone else's children
t. you
>>73231442
bump
>>73234268
I'm honestly astonished at this point how literally none of you actually read the OP, you just heard the words "Kids" "shot" and "Guns" and went for the same old argument you always use when someone is talking about a gun ban, when that isn't what this thread is about at all.
I'm not even a liberal and I'm starting to see why they say we have lower IQs.
>>73231442
Surely parents who leave loaded guns laying around and get their kids killed are tried for child endangerment, or are americans that mental?
>>73234267
You punish a parent for leaving the gun in the access of a minor m8 thats that law we are referencing. are you reading along?
>>73234267
>"moral equivalence fallacy"
>Wordwall
>wordwall
>wordwall
>buzzwords
>Buzzwords
Found the Tumblrite. Nothing you said was an argument. Go back to your safespace.
>Every week two morons remove themselves from the gene pool.
Not enough in my opinion.
>>73231442
>kids are somehow shot by parents
Good. If their parents are stupid enough to accidentally shoot them then the children's genes must have been bad and are better off not spreading.
>>73234755
>He thinks logic terminology is just "buzzwords"
Found the high school dropout.
>>73234846
Back in the day they used to place all the stupid ones in sanitariums and sterilize them to protect the gene pool. I understand why now.
>>73234755
>wordwall
Are you actually retarded?
>>73234433
We get lots of anti-gun shills so you really shouldn't bitch if we address anti-gun arguments by instinct.
As for gun safety, what kind of parent even leaves their guns where their kids can reach them? Of course they should be charged with negligence, unless the kids took steps to circumvent security measures.
>>73231442
How many people die on staircases or bath tubs a year?
>>73234846
>>73234972
I don't think you can classify toddlers as "morons" for not knowing what a gun does.
>>73231442
>Is the child's death punishment enough, or should there be legal consequences for being shitty with gun safety?
There are already legal punishment for such a thing, it's called negligence. Yes if you have children you should make sure they don't have access to your weapons.
>>73235241
Don't bother anon. OP is a triggered fag who's just trolling.
>>73231442
>>73231567
>>73232387
>>73232747
I don't get why so many niggers have to pose with loaded guns.
>>73231442
>Two children are accidentally shot every week in the U.S. by their parent's guns.
How many of those children are white?
>>73231567
Black people cause a lot more death and crime than guns so shouldn't we ban them first?
>>73231442
Yes, let's give the government even more control over our lives and set up arbitrary rules and regulations.
Obviously you don't own a gun, so you don't know shit.
>>73231442
>Two children are accidentally shot every week in the U.S. by their parent's guns
No they aren't
They take the annual number and then divide it by 52
It's a bullshit statistic
also
>Implying this isn't the best natural selection method in history
>>73231442
Reminder that when gun control shills say "children", they're referring to anyone under the age of 25.
