How did America get BTFO'd so hard by some farmers in straw hats during the Vietnam war?
>>73190262
USSR
>>73190262
How did Britain get BTFO'd so hard by some farmers with fishing boats during the Revolutionary war?
>>73191220
SAVAGE
Too many charlies, not enough napalm
>>73191220
The French
>>73191709
What about when they came back for more in 1812?
>>73191894
They had already sent all their non pussfied cunts to Australia and from then on the UK were cucks along with canada.
>>73190262
We didnt. We dominated the locals and the only real resistance came from the other filthy commies.
It was a war lost at home, where there was no fighting.
The US didnt even come close to losing. The US withdrew because the /pol/s at home went into shill overdrive
There is no winning an unpopular war.
>>73191220
Plus unlike the revolution we never surrendered
>>73190262
if we would have let the military call the shots instead of using them as a reactive arm of social buerocracy they would hace destroyed the island
>>73191894
They burnt your white house down...
>>73193079
And? We rebuilt it better than before.
>>73193060
Uhh vietnam is not an island
>>73193079
And Napoleon burnt down Moscow
the vietnamese had been fighting for a hundred year against colonialism. The boys we sent had no combat experience.
If you spend your whole life fighting you generally get pretty good at it
>>73193159
Still got rekt though. Stopped you from invading British land (Canada).
>>73193079
36 years later, in a different war
>>73193257
You can't fight againt bombs raining down from the sky.
>>73193253
Yeah, and they fought them out of the country afterwards. In 1812, you fags all called for a truce, and you failed to take any British land.
>>73193262
We didnt lose any territory in the War of 1812 or Vietnam
>>73193396
Talking about 1812 m8
>>73193159
>get asses kicked
>pretend it didn't happen
>therefore it never happened
>>73193262
Brits wanted to cockblock us from our manifest destiny by making the midwest native american territory. See how that turned out.
>>73191709
> muh French intervention
The French we entered the war once they realize that the Americans were capable of enduring the British on their own. It was purely opportunistic.
Nice try with the revisionist history, though.
>>73193399
>you fags all called for a truce
which the Bongs agreed to
> and you failed to take any British land.
They didn't get any of our land plus we got plenty of Indian land
>>73193419
But you failed your objective in 1812. British forces secured their land. You lost. Greatest cover up, was the fact you lost that war, and the fact that the majority of people never heard of it. Britain Australia and New Zealand won the war on communism, in Borneo, but I bet you never heard of that either.
>>73190262
Non engagement and pursue laws. If we saw gooks we mostly couldn't shoot them, and if we thought we knew where gooks were we could not pursue. Vietnam was a political war, not a military war.
>>73193733
>But you failed your objective in 1812. British forces secured their land.
We gained plenty of Indian land
>>73193645
They didn't aim to get your land! Fucking hell, you lost the war, you failed to do any thing, but get good anglos killed on both sides.
>>73193262
Or maybe the 1 million plus Indians desperately trying to defend heir homelands by siding with the seemingly more powerful and organized British to defend against encroaching American and French settlement was part of that
>>73193733
Canada was just a distraction. The real prize was west of the Mississippi
>>73190262
Vietnam was fighting their right for freedom of religion but America thought it was fighting for ideology.
The whole thing began when the French try to colonized Vietnam but they surrender to a few forces and America had to take over in a conflict the had no purpose being their.
When Cia operatives began replacing Buddhist leaders with Catholic leaders, the people became unhappy
>>73193843
That's not British land, of which they were defending.
>>73193903
>kiwi education
>>73193903
The Bongs wanted to prevent us from push west and becoming a superpower
They failed
>>73190262
Public opinion turned when video and pictures of what war looked like began to circulate due to the pansy liberal press, in turn America wasn't able to do what they should've, and wanted, which was burn the entire forest down with napalm
>>73193620
Kinda like US during world wars. Still call themselves back to back WW champions
>>73190262
Liberals
>>73193958
Yeah, you weren't exactly the good guys, Britain outlawed slavery, you wouldn't do that until after your civil war, 50 odd years later.
>>73194003
They were also defending Indian land
Also we did gain fishing rights in the St Lawrence
>>73194137
>keeping niggers in their place
>bad
>>73192704
this
the tet offensive was the reason us withdraw , the offensive totally failed , but peoples at home saw it as the us didnt have the situation Under control and so asked for troops to comeback , after that north vietnam litteraly steamrolled the South without much resistance
>>73190262
>How did America get BTFO'd so hard by some farmers in straw hats during the Vietnam war?
Those people thought for their families, friends, their country and freedom. It was a "be killed or succeed" campaign. They had thought the Japanese before, then the French and then the Americans. After 25 years of fighting, you know, you don't give up just because some asshole wannabe Empire bombs you daily with Napalm and Agent Orange.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqtehtSB0LI
>>73194137
Nobody cares about nigger slaves
>>73190262
uncle ho admired George Washington and looked on himself as fighting a similar revolution against imperialism . the American public had no desire to fight in Vietnam triumph of the will
Because we allowed politicians to come up with the strategy instead of the military
We gave Mcnamara a list of the most important targets from top to bottom and he started at the fucking bottom.
Before we were bombing SAM sites or RADAR installations we were bombing piles of coal. Literal piles of coal. After we bombed them the gooks would just pick up the pieces and throw them back in the pile.
Mcnamara should have been shot for treason along with Jane Fonda.
When the military fights: we win
When politicians fight: we get fucked
>>73190262
Same reason we are getting BTFO by goat fucking ninjas in the middle east:
Liberalism being in any way, shape or form being involved with the army.
Add Politics, and we have soldiers who can't fight a war, to the point where the ragtag militia with no rules can take them on
Prolonging a war for a longer period of time(Artificially, since we could bomb ISIS to hell and back in a week) has it's benefits if you are a jew or a politician.
USSR support, hippies back home complaining about the war and pressuring the government to pull more and more soldiers out until all that was left were skeleton crews who couldn't hold back the nearly unlimited waves of vietnamese. It was entirely overwhelming, and those losses and the pressure back home just made things worse and we ended up pulling out because of it.
Basically pot-smoking degenerates did it
>>73190262
I'll take a swing at this and say it had something to do with rules of engagement.
>>73193419
>>73193903
Yeah, no. Both sides failed to achieve the objectives they originally set out for. The British marched into the United States and starting taking our territory too you know? We were just supposed to let that happen?
Plus the British were funneling weapons to various Native American tribes to prevent the U.S. from gaining more territory to the as-yet untamed western part of North America, and fucking with our trading with other European countries on account of the Napoleonic wars.
Britain got completely fucking wrecked at New Orleans, and repulsed convincingly at Baltimore and Plattsburgh. They were never going to reconquer America or whatever the hell the point of marching down our coast and burning our capital was supposed to accomplish (after all, they were just defending their territory, right?).
>>73190262
>Conventional tactics against Guerilla warfare
>Communist funding
>No real objective or end goal since we couldn't invade the north with out retaliation
>Couldn't destroy supply lines because they were in Laos and Cambodia which we were not allowed to enter
>Low morale
>Unpopularity at home mostly because of The media literally displaying the horrors of war in front of unsuspecting Americans.
That's pretty much it.
IT AINT ME
>>73194308
god this scene make me wish i was born in like the 40's so i could become a helicopter pilot in vietnam
>>73190262
The only way we could've "won" Vietnam is if we killed every single god damned farmer, peasant and villager in the entire fucking country.
We could've done it if we wanted to, but we eventually decided it wasn't worth it.
>>73190262
>>73194673
It was a stupid, pointless war. Literally no good reason why we should have been there in the first place
>>73194534
you can't win a war if the people don't want you there
>>73190262
Muh Military Industrial Complex
>>73190262
They didn't it was the faggot hippies who made them lose it. America lost like 70k troops whilst Vietnam lost millions so they won in that aspect
>>73194816
>entire United States Army
>aircraft carrier
>>73194816
>a few hundred
American education ladies and gentlemen
>>73194954
The top group of images and text are old bait I didn't create. The bottom half is my response.
>>73194923
We shouldn't have gotten involved in the first place. At least with vietnam, we wanted to prevent the domino effect, anything to fight commies is fine by me.
But 9/11 wars, as I like to call them, are a complete disaster. First of all, now we know that Isreal and Saudis were involved, which means that we will look like complete fools if we don't invade them now, but if we already invaded some other country, we have to finish it up and mop up the resistance.
>>73195090
Holy shit, summer is fucking here.
>>73195155
its his first time here be nice
>h-heh w-we d-didn't try to b-beat them
>g-guys i-i'm smart just l-lazy xxd
>>73190262
Because Americans have fancy equipment but they're too incompetent to make full use of it. I mean, their infantry is high tech but their training is what you'd expect from British Cadets
>>73190395
Fpbp, China backed the vietcong, and the ussr backed china. The whole war was the cold war, but not so cold anymore.
>>73190262
Fuck you britbong, you just elected a muslim to take charge of the main capital in Europe. I hope you're leaving Europe you douche.
>>73191894
They burned the white house down in 1812, so...
>>73190262
Since Westerners value life more than third worlders it hits us harder to see one of our own get killed. Even if k/d ratio is in our favor we still don't have much tolerance to high casualties.
Vietnamese were willing to pay a much heavier price, plus their strategic objectives were much easier to attain.
>>73195303
You're right, leaf, it was total war. Our nukes were out of gas and gas prices were so high...
>>73190262
some hairy hippies wept "muh feelings", then bad america left nam, victory for nam.
>>73195337
Still salty about that whole colonies thing huh?
The Marine Corp alone would brutally stomp your countries most heavily trained dentist's before pictures.
>>73195554
You know you're wrong though. Embarrassing
>>73195337
Royal Marines vs. US Marines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UdHjV_KZT8
>>73191220
>Some farmers
You had organised Guerilla militias, were well equipt, had the home advantage, outnumbered us, and had support from the French and Spanish (Spaniards at the time had the largest empire in the world).
>BTFO
It was pretty closely fought and the revolution was barely saved at some points.
>>73190262
Successful counter-operations against guerrillas with automatic weapons needs either:
Summary punishment and reprisals to disincentivise irregular activities:
>Germans in WW1
>Germans in WW2
or
Population movement
>British in Second Boer War
>British in Malaysia
U.S. partly implemented this in the "Safe Towns" in Vietnam.
The lack of either measures results in a populace willing to carry out irregular attacks on military forces, such as in:
>Napoleon's invasion of Russia
>Franco-Prussian War (and immediately after, during the German occupation.)
>Vietnam
>Afghanistan
>Iraq
>>73191894
>implying you won
Wat is a stalemate?
they are tough little jungle monkeys, the french before us, and the japanese before them, then the chinese after us, tough little bastards
gotta hand it to them, though we did kill a shit ton of them
>>73193253
Actually the Russians did it for him so he couldn't re-supply.
>>73190262
>fat shits vs farmers
>farners won
Why are you surprised? America is only good for funding terrorists (fighting a proxy war).
>>73195742
>US Rangers vs RAF Pilots
>US has all the advantages
>Still loose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22ds4_aZgQI
>>73195859
no, they lost, to rice farmers, yet they delude thinking they won ww2, they were playing tutorial levels while you and russia were already playing in expert.
>>73195981
still, you lost.
>>73194332
> tfw ho appealed to woodrow wilson after ww1
> tfw he got BTFO
> tfw ho appealed to harry truman after ww2
> tfw he got BTFO
> tfw america decided to prop up the dying french empire and a corrupt regime instead
> tfw vietnam could have been a strong american ally
> tfw we lost 60 thousand lives, billions of dollars, and our nations credibility for fucking nothing
>>73195859
Vietnam is a thriving country now, right?
>>73193620
What? They armed you from day 1 and when they intervened gave you 11,000 men and opened up the chance of an invasion of the British Isles plus 2 more fronts in Africa and India.
>>73196018
>coming from behind in the part where you carry the dead body
You can't make this stuff up
>>73196101
Yeah, we lost 58,000 humans killing 3,500,000 dinks. Not sure what else we lost.
>>73196042
>implying we didnt single handedly beat back the japanese in the pacific, and then fucking nuke them, twice.
>>73194137
it took Britain 3 millenniums to outlaw slavery, it only took us 65 years
>>73193645
What the fuck? The British didn't want to annex US territory you drip. They were protecting their interests in Canada and the West of America.
>>73190262
How did the Brits get btfo by a few paddies with guns? They literally destroyed the best special forces in the world and they sent your army running. Thanks for funding us america.
>>73196101
not all war is militarily fought
>>73193244
It would've been when the military was finished.
>>73196354
the war is what else
>>73196377
>single handedly
>not with many allies, india, australia, etc
>>73193984
France had already colonised Vietnam. They surrendered to the Vietnanese forces fighting for independence.
>>73190262
This meme has to stop.
America never lost Vietnam, the South Vietnamese did. America won every battle until the Paris Accords set in and they negotiated a withdrawal.
The ARVN lost the war against Vietcong and NVA.
Watch "Last Days in Vietnam" or "Vietnam in HD"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTWX-BB4aAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zH3A93jfIk
>>73196411
the british and indians invaded our cities and burned the white house
we push you back, and eventually invaded canada , in which we were pushed back and they remained british cuckdogs to this day.
>>73196457
>not all war is militarily fought
"war", without any qualifiers, necessarily includes militaries as vast majority, primary opposors
>>73196377
You talk about them like they're some fucking force of nature.
You defeated a tiny island country smaller than one of most of your states with shit tier natural resources. And it only took 30 million casualties to do it.
Good job.
>>73196377
>implying it wasn't the british who beat the japanese in burma while you were clearing out small islands
>>73196801
That's how many casualties it took? Fucking kek.
>>73194743
IT AIN'T MEE! I AIN'T NO FORTUNATE ONE!!!
>>73196906
Its fortunate son you dumb burger.
>>73196803
>small islands
>with 100ks of nips
>>73196801
Man only nukes could have stopped a country this huge
>>73196429
But the UK kept the north whereas the americans completely fucked off from Vietnam.
>>73195788
Most of the revolutionary army were not well trained, or disciplined. It is humiliating for an army of powerful regulars to get BTFOd by some rebels.
>>73197152
True
>>73195714
Oh stop. Now you look silly. You're a country full of baby men, your women have more testosterone than your men. You all carry around the look and attitude of utter cowards. US Marines are broken and built into killing machines, we laugh when we snipe someone's head off, it's fun for us to kills. Your top recruits are glorified boy scouts who would break after an hour.
>>73196154
I was talking about 1812.
>>73196275
Most of their training is how to deal with the aftermath of a terrible defeat.
>>73197149
They snatched every Brit colony in Asia and almost invaded you.
>>73190262
We won every battle in Vietnam during the war, democratic politicians pulled us out whilst not adhering to the agreement the US had with South Vietnam: replacing their military equipment every time something was lost or destroyed, which led to the killing of 2million innocent Vietnamese. As usual democrats ruin everything they get their hands on.
>>73197035
Iwo Jima - 20 000
Okinawa - 120 000
Guadalcanal - 35 000
Burma - half a fucking million
>>73197149
>land area necessarily has anything to do with power of a "nuke" (which ranges by 4+ OOM), population of said land, logistics and terrain of said land, capabilities of both sides, international politics, necessary outcome, feasible strategy, unwillingness of said population to ever surrender, and relative size of that land area to that of its nation's allies and adversaries
yeah, thats cute
How did the British Empire get BTFO by a few ragtag Jews?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_insurgency_in_Mandatory_Palestine
>Britburkas are literally not taught about this in school
>>73197274
Usual bluster from an arrogant american. One SAS recruit is worth ten marines
>>73197149
>implying
>>73197274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8YfmBMmZFU
>>73190262
How the fuck did the british empire get btfo so hard by some yokel protestants?
>>73194520
>>73196410
Actually William the Bastard (actual name) outlawed slavery in 1080-something in order to get a quick buck out of fining slavers but British slave traders found a loop-hole wherein they imported them to the colonies rather than to the mainland.
funny that i stumble on this thread i just finished reading tome 20 of an alternate history serie of comic and it was about the vietnam war
>>73197274
>broken and built
Well, they're certainly broken
https://youtu.be/NE1l4-vo8I4
>>73190262
It was rigged by the banks to keep the war going.
>>73197019
Check flag you uneducated IRA rape baby.
>>73197675
Is it any good? Alt history is my jam.
>>73197800
I checked it, cuck. You're an American vassal therefore american soil, Burger
>>73193903
>They didn't aim to get your land!
Citation needed.
The war began because the Brits were getting Injuns to attack and resettle in American territory and also cause Brits had taken American sailors for fight in their navy.
Wait, I just saw your flag. Never mind, continue shit posting please.
>>73197675
translation : RED DRAGON
1954 : a us nuclear strike save France at dien bien phu
>>73197529
Absolutely laughable.
>>73194743
>>73196906
>>73197019
>>73197733
What a bunch of pussies
>>73197520
>Get """BTFO"""
>Actually win
>>73197908
jour-j is a really cool serie they have all kind of alternate history per issue : one issue is ww1 won by germany , another is the ussr being the first to land on the moon , another is what if the french revolution failed , really nice.
another one that i find ok is ww2.2 were the events of ww2 happen very differently for example the us is allied with japan to fight the chinesses
>>73190262
they had guns
>>73198101
Keep pretending if it makes you feel better
>>73198142
wew lad
>>73198142
>>73197959
Go eat a potato. Oh wait... you ran out.
>>73198327
Go eat some ham, oh wait it's haram.
>>73197595
A regulated boxing match is your example? Is that what British people think war is?
>>73197800
Brits are uneducated and ugly due to inbreeding.
>>73190262
because those fucking zipperheads were sneaky little fuckers... they hid in the ground like ants. and for some reason nixon thought it would be a good idea to send our troops with shitty weapons and gear. had we been more prepared i think we would have sent those little rice patties packing
>>73190262
It was a no win situation. To start, we'd go in, stomp the fuck out of them, then pull back out of fear that the USSR would get involved. They'd build back up. We could have gotten the North to surrender by continuing with Operation Linebacker, but then we would have been stuck in the country fighting insurgents for a decade, spending fuckloads of money and not getting anywhere. Kind of like we did in Iraq.
>>73197149
>australian education
>>73198515
>burger education
>>73198515
>Australia
>American education
>>73197486
>land area having anything to do with capabilities
Literally everything to do with it. At its height the USN had over 6000 commissioned vessels, over 3000 of which were principal surface combatants. Japan never reached over 800. More land equals a larger workforce, a massively increased supply and diversity of resources and manufacturing areas to go with it. You were 10 million km2, they were 450k km2. They did not have even a fucking 10th of your resources, your arable landmass, your oil reserves, your steel mills. Allied infantry numbered 22 million in the pacific, Japanese was 8 million. They were never going to win.
You won a battle of attrition and would have gotten curbstomped if the Japs had access to even half of your resources at their disposal.
30 million allied casualties vs 3.5 Million Japanese casualties, says it all.
>>73190262
Militarily, we fared well. We just didn't have the will to win it. There was significant upheaval on the homefront and the war was extremely unpopular. There was also support from China and the USSR in the form of logistics, military advising, and likely direct action on a few occasions.
>>73197908
goodbye vietcongs
>>73198660
Nice shitpost.
>get BTFO'd
>but killed more gooks than gooks killed them
Hmmm
>>73190262
Simply actually, Vietnamese are small, when using a gun that can actually penetrate forest cover and make use of tunnels they can btfo an occupation force.
Same reason the US didn't overtake north Korea in that war.
The little gooks use tunnels.
>>73190262
Because liberals cried about civilian casualties and hamstringed the military. Just like every war since WWII.
>>73190262
Had they let the military to do its thing they would never had stood a chance.
Politicians and press lost that war catering to weak stomachs.
>>73198660
You sure have a lot of land area in Australia why are you still irrelevant in the world stage?
>>73190262
Don't underestimate a mugiwara, fag.
>>73199031
Australia is not arable for the most part.
>>73191220
Also along the same lines the British got fucked out of Ireland by a population that was devasted by famines for centuries beforehand and had no means of production
The whole thing was a money making game anyway.
>>73197476
burma was nothing to them compared to anscestral homeland like iwo and oki
not exactly hard fought, just a strategic convenience
whereas Japanese homeland territory was die protecting or lose your soul affair with them
>>73190262
Poor leadership and improper implementation of tactical and strategic advantages, along with a poorly utilized, poorly trained force consisting heavily of conscripted soldiery.
The US hasn't had a good corps of officers since the end of WW2.
>>73199152
But the British held onto a region that, at the time, was the most productive on the island
>>73199152
The poor and hungry will always defeat the rich and satisfied.
>>73193984
They were fighting for religion on my fucking arse lad.
Only reason America got involved is because it got into a (proxy)war with a fucking political ideology
>>73198660
yes?
and?
without the nukes millions would have died from the hardest fought scorched earth campaign ever on earth
the nukes did not cause the people to surrender, the nukes caused the emperor to order surrender
>>73199391
In other words you resorted to cheap tactics because you knew you'd lose.
>>73199540
>choosing to kill 200k people instead of many millions
>cheap tactics
Irish intellectuals everybody
>>73199540
>cheap
boohoo
bitch please
but still.... cry about it
>you knew you'd lose.
guaranteed win, but not worth it with an alternative that benefits everyone
imbecile.
>>73199540
p.s.
i must reiterate how much of an imbecile you are
>>73200050
The japs still won, friendo. Imagine if your morons went up against a proper country. Kek, pathetic losers.
>>73193053
You're right
We kicked your limey asses off the continent and you went all the way back to your faggy island bitching and moaning "MUH EMPIRE"
>>73190262
its easy, american military sucks ass and is a big waste of money
>>73200153
>The japs still won, friendo.
negative 1/10
im in disbelief
never beheld a negative before
how did you do that?
>>73200257
>Manly american soldiers
>>73200153
Hush boy, or we'll make you our slaves again.
>>73190262
>>73200440
uh
yeah zzzz
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>>73194954
>>73194816
Can normies please leave?
>>73191220
The French, how proud are you Amerifat? you owe your freedom, to cheese eating surrender monkeys. 50 states each one bigger than your enemy, and thousands of miles away. Who where already fighting a massive global struggle.
> mfw chants USA until reason and logic seem unpatriotic.
>>73190262
Didn't we kill roughly half a million of them and destroy their country while they took out 58k of our coalition troops? We didn't get btfo, we lost control of a shithole jungle on the other side of Planet Earth attempting to help the worthless French
Only under Turdeau's logic of "If you kill your enemies, they win" did we suffer a major loss
Fuck off to londinistan fucking muzzie, it's prayer time
>>73198175
>>73198757
Looks good, hope I can find a tl for it.
>>73200507
>Our slaves.
You dopey bollox. Americans of Irish descent are the most successful, happy and wealthy. Kek, you miserable fuck. Cry more.
>>73198588
>>73198574
>what is island hopping?
They didn't have a large army, they had a large navy you fuckwits. Not to mention we were essentially fighting a two front war, while Europeans were getting BTFO
>>73194816
>freedom-loving South Vietnamese don't exist
fucking dumb murricans. I bet you sympathize with those dirty commies.
>>73191894
USA sued for peace? Paid UK yearly not to invade? I don't get your poin..... OH! I get it, you got a state funded Education and think USA won war ever, and watched movies to prove the point in "school"
> mfw I thought this was bait for a second, turns out he's just a dumbass.
> inb4 Jokes on you, I was only retarded to be pretending.
>>73200750
>50 states
Jesus christ m8, there were 13 colonies you fucktard not 50 states in that war. Plus some of the northern ones are small as fuck see rhode island.
>>73200752
Whoa shit, I was wrong, the Vietnamese caualties are upwards of 1.1mil, we absolutely fuct that shithole jungle up. Do the math 58k vs 1.1mil, which side would you chose? Luckily we wiped out a ton of civilians too for bonus points
>>73190262
It was an end-game scenario. We wanted to see how America would perform in an unwinable war.
Turns out we realized the model is a better way of selling arms than the old wars where people used to actually win.
Create your own enemies from the general population of a nation. Unlimited war, you just need to treat the population bad and sell both sides guns. After the power vacuum, stick someone in power who will buy your guns and sell all of their resources.
>>73192279
Fuck off you shit poster Abandoning your brothers to smash cunts with some amerifag goon.
>>73190262
How did the USSR get BTFO'd so hard by some finnmongrels? Territory
>>73193060
We're talking about Vietnam, not Iraq & Afghanistan & the war on terror. Please stay on topic.
>>73190262
Reluctance due to the draft and protests over the war back in the US. Also caves and shit
>>73195788
>You had organised Guerilla militias, were well equipt, had the home advantage, outnumbered us, and had support from the French and Spanish
Just like how the vietnamese were an organized guerilla militia and equipped/supported by the USSR
>>73194063
>implying the allies would of won without US arms and armor
>>73190262
Because they were backed by the entirety of the soviet union and their allies, and had people protesting the war at home.
>BTFOD
America was destroying the vietnamese despite the resources soviet put into it. America achieved some of their goals and then pulled out because it wasn't profitable to continue.
For fuck sake, america could turn the world into a wasteland void of life within the hour, and could take on any other country in the world in conventional warfare and win. Any war, except for those with other nuclear powers, are about profit or no profit and the vietnam conflict turned out to not be worth the potential losses and resources. So sick of this meme.
>>73201220
*and had home advantage. Left that out
>>73201191
Only country that resisted the mongols. Bigger empires than the US couldn't destroy them china tried lots
Because the Vietnamese are back to back 20th Century war champions.
>France BTFO
>America BTFO
>China BTFO
>Cambodia BTFO
Vietnam is still the most bombed country in history
>>73190262
International regulations stopping them from vaporizing opposition.
>>73200200
> SOOO Butt hurt US never became an empire.
>>73201359
Technically incorrect. Hungary successfully held out, and the Croats backhanded a Mongol invasion force pretty hard. Egypt outright slaughtered them.
>>73190262
Because the US weren't hiding in muddy caverns like rats
Because USA has one of the worst troops in the world.
They may have the best vehicles, but their soldiers suck dick.
>>73190262
How did britain get btfo by this?
>>73201623
>fighting over fish
o-oh nooo
>>73196882
That's not true at all. American casualties in both theathers totals about 400,000
>>73201918
m8 Iceland deserved a nuke for that shit fucking £5 for some salmon fillets at Tesco you're having a giggle.
>>73197152
Every colony that declared independence was independent by the wars end. Vietnam was a defensive war first and foremost. Conquering North Vietnam was never the objective
>>73201918
>>73202315
>implying entire British navy was mobalized
>>73202450
>entire British navy
>navy
Kek, you haven't had a navy in a 100 years.
>>73202598
Because Ireland is a bastion of Naval superiority
>>73198175
This is more a novel, but Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory series is really great reading. It's about France and the UK intervening to force the USA to accept Confederate independence, and then chronicles how the world develops from there till alternate WWII. Interestingly, the US becomes insanely bitter and allies with Germany in WWI, starting a two front war for Britain. Ireland is also succesful during the Easter Uprising, due to Britain lacking the troops to put the revolt down. The US Navy later ends an uprising by the Ulster Scots against the united Ireland republic after WWI by flattening Belfast. Also the negros get exterminated by the Confederates during WWII, the best part
>>73202749
I never said it was. You lads are irrelevant now.
>>73201918
spain got their ass beat by us in the turbot wars
>>73191894
>implying you weren't just useful idiots paid by France to distract us from the real war going on at the time
>>73191220
theyre just brits leave them alone...
>>73203073
Yeah that really backfired on the Frogs. The second ole Ben Franklin heard from some ministers wife he was fucking that the French intended to sell us down the river in the peace treaty, we went right to London and signed a seperate peace
>>73203402
I bet Ben was shitting it on the way there.
>>73201527
The entire galaxy is our empire, nigger
>>73203704
Oh yeah the second he figured it out he grabbed his staff and their luggage and they fled Versailles in the dead of the night to catch a boat to England from Calais to make it to London before the French knew what what happened
>>73202829
Still more relevant than Potato land
>>73204314
You know the ending scene in braveheart when he screams out freeeedom? Listen, you're bent over the table yeah, just when Ahmed is about to ram his cock up your arse you scream out "Muh Relevaaaaaaaaance". Kek, pathetic faggot.
>>73190262
Horrible military tactics.
If everyone has ever listened to George Lincoln Rockwell, one of his speeches he said that the war is being fought so poorly tactic-wise. As an example, he gave the gook tunnels and why we should've just flooded them out with gas.
>>73204521
Because believe it or not the US knew that we couldn't just go fucking nuts to win the war. If we did we would just completely flatten North Vietnam
>>73204634
I don't get why the Anti-Communist forces worried about harming the population, they're already fucked up with Agent Orange even now.
>>73200548
>greenland
>>73193903
fookin hell m8, damn yanks tryin to argue with me history.
>>73204927
There's a difference between hitting them with something that causes cancer in 10 years and something that causes a horrible choking death immediately that harkens back to the Holocaust
>>73204504
Haha le funny edgy maymay X3
>>73205272
No real difference when the choking death gives a few minutes of suffering versus a lifetime of defects for them and their children.
Besides, the gooks were inhumane during the war, fuck 'em.