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>Currently a net loss of councillors
>Lost control of Dudley Council
>Now third in Scotland behind the Conservatives (no, really)
>Lost vote share to UKIP IN WAYULS
It's JUST for Jezza and Labour!
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Nige
>Durham PCC, 17.4% turnout
>Wiltshire 24% turnout
The horrifying thing is these abysmal numbers are up on the last PCC elections.
Daily reminder that Scottish nationalism is nothing but an irrelevant power fantasy that Glaswegian neds came up with
>>73169286
>17.4%
fucking hell I thought it was going to be single figures
Recurring digits for lib dem suicide
>>73169286
What where the results there?
>>73169114
>Not voting for the National Socialist British Labour Party
>You will never ever be Jeremy Corbyn.
>>73169384
Labour hold in Durham, Con hold in wiltshire.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2016-36203311
>A Labour councillor has blamed Ken Livingstone for the loss of two seats in Bury saying Jewish voters were offended by his comments.
THANK YOU KEN
>>73169399
>This is a bad thing
>>73169299
what data is this image representing
you can't just colour in a map and expect me to take it seriously
for all i know you've put this together in paint
Given how the SNP vote was reinforced and solidified by the no vote, could UKIP stay strong and keep up vote share if the result of the referendum is remain?
The fact that it's just a broad national share and doesn't have strongholds worries me since FPTP won't change anytime soon. All it would take is for publicity to die off and the EU issue to be overshadowed by another major issue for many people to go back to voting for the other parties.
I'm worried, lads.
>>73169469
Don't believe anything you read on /pol/ nothing ever comes with sources.
>>73169437
THANK YOU BASED KEN OF TRUTH AND FACTS
>>73169437
Oy vey it's anudda shoah.
>>73169114
For that one anon from the last thread.
WE /29/ NOW BOYS
PURPLE OCEAN
>>73169376
re-roll
>>73169384
>Durham:
1st: Ron Hogg (Labour) 50,915
2nd: Peter Cuthbertson (Con) 18,797
3rd: Craig Martin (Lib Dem) 10,060
64% for Labour.
Literally worthless putting up candidates if they aren't red.
>>73169114
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/24/labour-set-for-worst-council-defeat-in-opposition-for-34-years/
Yesterday's prediction
>Labour is on course to suffer its worst result in opposition for 34 years at the local elections, one of Britain’s most respected polling experts has warned.
The party will lose 170 councillors and control of a string of councils if people vote as the polls currently suggest, according to analysis by Prof John Curtice for The Telegraph.
Labour moderates warned the result would be a “tragedy” and that the party leadership would have to “take some responsibility” for the losses.
Actual results? As of right now Labour has lost 26 councillors, mainly in Scotland.
Suppressed these threads haven't been overrun by t*rks
>>73169614
Oh and before this is claimed as SNP propaganda it's actually right here in a fucking Labour report.
http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/repository/DevoNanoMax.pdf
Page 70
Oh no, actual numbers!
So how did Thurrock go, if I remember right UKIP were on course to winning a majority in the council there. Please don't tell me that one vote cost them the council.
I'm not even that familiar with UK politics and even I could see that Labour picking Corbyn was a fucking idiotic move.
When you get blown the fuck out in an election, you don't go deeper into your extremist bullshit.
>>73169687
>Analysis by DAMP RAG
>>73169658
No UKIP? Would've though they'd at least beat out the Lib Dems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEKIt1lksc8
Some throwback Thursday low energy young Nige
>Wake up
>0 UKIP seats in Scotland
>>73169783
There were only three candidates.
>>73169687
Its not cataclysmic, but it still indicates they are going to be defeated in 2020.
Its actually a pretty good result for the torys. If it really was a disaster, then Corbyn would have had to go. Now he can stay on and lose in 2020 as well. >>73169687
>>73169687
They lost nowhere near as much as that. The pollsters got it wrong again. In the long term it's better because now the corbyn opposition won't have the support to mount a coup
>>73169614
>>73169755
BUT THE BARNET FORMULAS!
ahaha, I bet he won't even reply.
There is another fag saying it is all military as well.
Oh boy!
>>73169687
Eh they might have done it on purpose to drive up the turnout for people to vote labour. True these are con aligned papers but first who gave them the numbers and secondly do the Cons still fear UKIP?
The same papers were pushing for votes on an snp/green split.
I didn't understand what the election was yesterday
Seemed to be police comissioners in England but was it a GE in Wales and Scotland?
Been really busy with assignments so not been up to date...
>>73169766
We lost out because of one measly fucking vote
>There were probably several lazy Kippers living in the area where we lost by one vote that didn't before turning up
>>73169114
>tfw labour won my areas local election in a landslide
just fuck my shit up
Purple tsunami in Wales lads!
>>73169813
Doesn't even matter, our country has been done for a while lad.
Let it burn, abandon ship.
>>73169434
>the entire landmass of the British Isles isn't covered in housing, we have space for more refugees!!!
>>73169806
No wonder he doesn't read speeches anymore
Whenever someone reads a script their voice sounds fake and soulless
>>73169469
He can and will just colour in a map on paint, you will shut up and accept it as truth.
>>73169766
Only a third of the council was up for election
tfw when you hold back the communist hordes
>>73169881
Scotland, Wales and NI had parliament elections (technically assemblies but w/e).
England had some councils, London, two mayors (one London) and police commissioners.
>>73169114
Best analysis so far - Paul Mason
https://medium.com/mosquito-ridge/elections-2016-the-scottish-earthquake-continues-f829864192b5
>>73169543
>nothing ever comes with sources.
That's bullshit and you know it, Mohammed.
>>73169885
If I was a Kipper living in this Thurrock seat and I didn't vote I would fucking hang myself.
Who won in London?
>>73169934
While I disagree with her Scotland is hardly full of housing. Hell it's been losing population for a long time.
>>73169934
After all it is [CURRENT YEAR]
>>73169956
Thank you Comrade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZsYvkTw4Rg
And some throwback Jezza
>>73169114
>Corbyn Collapse
Haha, dream on, kipper.
>>73169998
This is why i always go out and vote
Fucking cucks i swear
>>73169928
you can live with me if you have a cute sister
>>73170008
We'll find out later on. We won't get all the results until Sunday, but we should know the mayoral by tomorrow.
From the looks of it, Khan won.
>>73169998
This is infuriating to look at
>>73169881
>>73170028
Oops, that should have included this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36205839
>LABOUR LOSING A SEAT TO THE LIB DEMS IN MANCHESTER
L E L
>>73170137
>tfw voted UKIP for Manchester.
>>73169614
So, random anon claiming Scotland is full of benefit sponges.
Where are your answers to this sourced evidence?
And again this comes from a party opposed to both more devolution and independence who, if anything, have a motive to underplay this.
>>73170081
>>73170124
The worst part is the had four recounts and with every recount the UKIP vote count went up, convenient they stopped there.
>>73170137
did we win? is labour dead? just turning the news on trying to make sense of all this
whats happening in suffolk chaps, did my vote count for anything?
Gremlins
in
the
system
Britain is doomed, the voters will just go back to the fucking Tories. Stick a fork in it, the country is done.
I can't wait for the muslims to elect the police commissionaires
ahh hah ahhh....
>>73170077
but that paper would still be valid. the cross is entirely within the box
not sure what that white rectangle is for tho
>>73170222
But anon Labour would NEVER fiddle the numbers.
They just occasionally find 140+ votes under some Tory ballots. Normal, everyday things.
I often find myself losing 140 sheets of paper and really can any of us truly say we haven't sometimes lost a short-story here and there?
>>73169469
Red is constituencies where nationalist parties (SNP and Greens) got a majority of the votes.
Blue is where unionist parties (Lib, Lab, Con) got a majority of the votes.
>>73170339
Taking a picture inside the voting station is also highly illegal particularly if it's of an actual vote (yes, even your own).
>>73170336
>not electing ex-ISIS fighters to police commissioners
Come on it's 2016.
>>73170077
I think I heard on HIGNFY that someone drew a penis in a labour box, but since it was inside the box it counted as a vote.
>>73170339
He then went on to "improve" it...outside the box.
Will London having a muslim mayor actually make any difference?
It's not like he's got that much power is it ?
>>73170339
A swastika isn't a cross.
You draw anything other than the single cross as demonstrated, your ballot is spoilt.
>>73169614
Sounds alot like the eu agrement for uk. You earn from it still you want away from it. I just hope you guys leave so you will realy be the irrelevant shithole of europe. You will be like the old soviet union on an island it will be realy depresing.
>>73170680
I don't know why anyone even cares about London.
It's a fucking tip.
>>73170547
There's a great story from the 2014 European elections: http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13163115.Unspun___the_politics_diary/
>WESTERN Isles was the last council to count its Euro ballots last week for religious reasons, but Unspun hears that's not the only quirky aspect of democracy in the Outer Hebrides.
>Apparently inspired by TV's Chewin' the Fat, one elector wrote "w***, w***, good guy, w***" next to the list of parties and candidates.
>Although unconventional, the ballot paper was reportedly declared valid as the voter had "expressed a clear preference".
>The good guy, incidentally, was the SNP.
>>73170699
>sweden
>>73169998
What is this a parish seat? The turnout in my ward was only 24% but we still had far greater numbers of voters than this.
>>73170680
It's a symbolic defeat
>wake up
>SNP have lost their majorrty
>>73170621
>fiddlers rest
sounds like a burial place for saville and co.
>>73170706
When I think of England, I only think of London. Gotta remind myself anything else exists there.
>>73170689
>You draw anything other than the single cross as demonstrated, your ballot is spoilt.
No, any single mark inside the box can be interpreted as a statement of voting intent. It's why last year there was news someone drew a cock in the tory box and it was counted as a vote
>>73170680
In the grand scheme of things no but it's the image of a Muslim as mayor of our nations capital that disturbs me.
>>73170689
didn't someone vote for the SNP by writing "wank" beside all non-SNP candidates, and "good guy" beside the SNP one?
I think it was in the Western Isles
>>73170699
>sweden
>>73170621
>Didn't just go back and ask for another card
>>73169998
Here in Islington they only had pencils in the voting booth. I wonder why :^)
>>73170706
I think it's just the principal of it, it's fucking humiliating and /pol/ wants to laugh at us over it.
>>73170748
>>73170807
Yeah but I'm trying to look at the plus side desu
>>73170814
oh hey, here you go. shows what i get for delaying posting. >>73170739
>>73170427
No it's not, it's only an offence if you photograph someone else's ballot.
It's an issue because you might accidentally do that, not because you're taking a photo of your own.
>>73170794
When I think of Germany, all I think of are Turks. Gotta remind myself anyone else lives there.
>>73170680
He'll make it a Sharia zone.
He's also an extremist so he can fuck with the Met's anti-terrorist operations.
>>73170689
You only have to show voting intent. Though idiotic the swastika clearly shows intent.
How is London looking?
>>73170766
>Tories remove SNP majority and come second in Scotland
Scottish politics just got more interesting. And if we leave in June, a second referendum is much more unlikely.
Literally the best result possible.
>>73170188
He probably committed the suicidey.
Honestly, it actually opened my eyes as well.
I always thought the whole "Scotland was full of bennies receivers" was true myself, but fucking HELL England has benefits concentration TOWNS.
That's a disaster man.
But the government keep on pushing the "punishing" welfare system and fuck-all gets done about it.
Punishing welfare only leads to more people on welfare when they get in to it.
It is a spiral of doom.
The thing is, these retards don't realize they can ALLOCATE the funds to the budget, but if unspent, can be distributed back out. (which happens already!)
Actual people in government don't realize this.
Miscommunication between government departments is the biggest reason for any problems in every government that exists.
Then when
That recent experiment where people were given a chance to get out of benefits by allocating their whole benefits income to them all at once was great. (usual Channel5 benefits porn)
It allowed them to start up their own businesses though. It actually was a good thing for once!
More of that needs to happen.
If we allocated the funds to that, we could create a massive influx of local businesses in those regions and start to recover them.
Of course, attackers only focused on the first period of the money being given when they spent a TINY amount of time celebrating with a NICE MEAL they haven't had in forever, gee, how UNEXPECTED of them.
Having a decent welfare state to fall back on to allow the creation of more local businesses is a great thing.
God only knows why fucking banks don't give out loans to these people. They have more determination than the average scrub that quits a job to start a business up!
>>73170699
The UK pays more into the EU than it gets out and the EU exports more to the UK than the UK exports to the EU. Assuming you discount the rebates the UK gets it's roughly £350M a week or £8.5B a year.
Part of the money that the EU pays back goes into shit like the theoretically independent BBC (ever wonder why they're so pro-EU?).
One way transaction where most of the money goes towards funding French farmers who refuse to modernise.
But hey I'm sure Germany will happily pick up the slack and not bitch about it forever. And Sweden will be allowed to keep on playing the 'we're theoretically joining the Euro but not really' game they've got going on when the UK leaves.
>>73170699
>I just hope you guys leave so you will realy be the irrelevant shithole of europe.
Our economy is just behind Germany in size. The EU will implode once we leave.
Why did the Conservatives pick someone as boring as Zac Goldsmith to run for London?
I know he's supposed to be principled and everything but in a Labour city you need a personality like Boris to win
>>73170858
There is no plus side to this.
>>73170706
It makes lots of money, has lots of voters and like it or not it controls the political situation in this country as of now.
>>73169114
Nah, mate.
Is Scotland redeeming itself?
Labour actually btfo
>>73170966
>Tories remove SNP majority
don't give them all the credit, the greens helped.
>greens wanting to pull the SNP left will now find the SNP reducing the top tax rate part of their manifesto policies to get tory help with the budget
HA
A
>>73170739
>Western Isles
I'm willing to bet he was drunk. Legally that cannot prevent you from voting.
>>73170878
>No it's not, it's only an offence if you photograph someone else's ballot.
Incorrect. It is as much to prevent bribing people to vote FOR you as much as it is to prevent you from intimidating others.
>>73171030
The main problem is that they for some stupid reason decided to go full dirty politics.
Really out of character for Goldsmith too.
>London is going to elect a muslim for their mayor
r/scotland has gone full conspiracy mode
They're attributing the entire Tory vote to ex-pat English who have moved up there.
>red and yellow fucking colour scheme
Fucking pinko scum.
This shit makes my fucking blood boil, living in the north east all these twats have those stupid placards up in their windows.
Disregarding Corbyn's politics, I disagree with most of what he says (I'm sympathetic to some lefty shit as long as it has nothing to do with immigration, open borders and massive welfare states is a disaster waiting (or in the process) of happening;
Does anyone else find it really unsettling that someone who was a fucking communist during the height of the cold war is leading a fucking political party? That's what disgusts me the most, to be honest. Fucking treachery.
>>73171039
next stop? hell
Lab PCC hold in Northumbria
Some show about coats is on bbc 2 boys, what channel should I switch to
>>73171257
>breaking news: water is wet
>>73171320
bbc news
>>73171320
Sky News
http://news.sky.com/watch-live
>>73171185
>22% of Scots are English ex-pats
>>73171371
Sounds about right desu
>>73171185
I've barely ever been to Reddit, only looking at random times it has been linked here, or for Gaki No Tsukai and a Software Defined Radio group.
But damn, I need me some of those politics tears.
Hasn't the south Scotland region always been sort of Tory-aligned anyway, part of that whole legacy from the past few hundred years nonsense and such?
>>73171320
Change to Dave my boy. Toppest Gear is on.
khan will be better for london that boris johnson and his hideous skyscrapers he's allowed to be erected like the 'walkie talkie' and his pointless waste of money pet projects like his shitty bikes and buses t b h
I live in Thurrock and didn't vote for UKIP. Now I feel bad.
>>73171142
>implying the snp will pay any attention to the greens
they are more likely to lean on any other party to pass their budgets
>>73171110
>Is Scotland redeeming itself?
>Tory leader is an anti-Chrstian pro-Eu fat dyke.
Baby-steps, we could say.
>>73170837
same here desu
>>73170878
Though come to think of it I think you can technically do it if you black out the number (as that anon has done). Still a fairly risky thing and many stations ban photography outright.
>>73170987
Local businesses are bad anon. They don't like the EU and don't create big numbers of jobs you can use in speeches. They also don't fund political campaigns.
The fact they bring money into a community doesn't matter.
>God only knows why fucking banks don't give out loans to these people. They have more determination than the average scrub that quits a job to start a business up!
I agree with more or less everything you've said but it is worth noting there will always be that minority who ARE legitimately abusing the system. That said a lot of the problem is the removal of heavy industry from the UK. This was a deliberate move to deal with a Communist threat during the Cold War but it also removed those jobs your average fucker could do with little-no education.
Service economy my arse.
>>73171444
What constituency? If this >>73169998 is you I would consider suicide.
>>73171159
Tories always attempt to win through underhanded dirty tactics rather than winning on the merits of their arguments. In 2015, the Tories successfully scared the electorate of the SNP and they did the same thing in the AV referendum in 2011. It's the only thing they know. It is completely out of character for Goldsmith though and it destroys his appeal. The way they ran this campaign made it harder for him to win.
>>>/int/58940042
BRITAIN IS FIGHTING NOW
>>73171190
He's also an IRA sympathiser
He deserves the guillotine
>>73171416
>Hasn't the south Scotland region always been sort of Tory-aligned anyway
no, its always moved around a lot. Traditional tory areas shifted to the snp and libs in the 90's.
before then it was various degrees of liberal party
>>73171154
>Incorrect. It is as much to prevent bribing people to vote FOR you as much as it is to prevent you from intimidating others.
literally what
The polling staff and police would need to do some serious hard work on interpreting the law to reach that conclusion and charge someone based on that.
The rule in question is for secrecy, not to avoid intimidation. There's no rule that tells people that they cannot go around after voting telling people how they did, and doing that online with a photograph that only contains their ballot is the same. The only possible issue is that if it was while polling was still taking place, but I honestly cannot see the police being called because someone takes a photo of their ballot, you would need a SERIOUS case off autism by the polling staff.
who else /comfy/ watching sky news?
>>73171461
i'm implying the opposite of what you said i implied.
i'm implying what you said would actually happen.
i.e. the SNP are going to ignore the greens
which is funny
because the greens think they will be relevant.
>>73171536
>they did the same thing in the AV referendum in 2011. It's the only thing they know.
I'd love to see how a vote for the AMS system of Scotland and Wales would go down now.
I'm willing to bet everyone would jump on it.
What do anons think? I'd have thought Kippers would be big into it as they've lost the most to MMP.
>>73171185
>111,000 people voted snp on the Glasgow list and they didn't get one seat.
Is there more to the second vote than being PR and regional?
Labour won in my area, but at least UKIP came second.
>>73171670
IT'S DEMOCRACY IN ACTION
>>73170706
London without the foreign hordes would be amazing, every white area is fantastic
Our gov is voting to form a coalition right now.
But it's sunny and warm, so most Irish people just don't give a shite.
#VoteUKIP lads
>>73171670
The lists take constituency seats into account. So when they divide votes for the D'Hond't method calculations the SNP count as already having like 10 MPs elected.
>>73171490
Yeah there is always going to be people that abuse the systems.
But it is the same at all levels of society.
I mean, look at Georgey boy, changed the tax system to directly benefit him "in the near future" to try cover it up.
The guy in control of the budget is literally abusing the budget and we are sitting on our asses doing nothing about it.
That dude should be put in 15 separate prisons at the same time.
We need more industry and tourism.
We need to make Scotland great again.
We were a powerhouse of industry.
>>73171573
I see. I never really paid attention to those regions.
It has only really been recently I paid attention since a few friends live down there now.
Seems they don't tend to follow herd mentality as much as other regions.
T-those anti-memers!
hey guys OP is back in here
https://instasync.com/r/happeningroom
goodmorning OP
So UKIP got 28 Councillors in England right?
>>73171587
>The polling staff and police would need to do some serious hard work on interpreting the law to reach that conclusion and charge someone based on that.
>The rule in question is for secrecy, not to avoid intimidation.
Do you know the history of rotten boroughs in the UK?
As I said you can do it IF you block out the ID number.
>here's no rule that tells people that they cannot go around after voting telling people how they did, and doing that online with a photograph that only contains their ballot is the same.
You cannot prove to anyone that you truly voted as you claim (this is why the ID number for your ballot must be blacked out). This matters again due to the history behind this shit. Also, of course, if there were only 100 people voting and 99 provably voted con we know who that last fucker than voted labour was.
>The only possible issue is that if it was while polling was still taking place, but I honestly cannot see the police being called because someone takes a photo of their ballot, you would need a SERIOUS case off autism by the polling staff.
Their jobs is to be autistic about this. I mean for fucks sake a Labour candidate was counting ballots earlier.
It is silly they go through all that and the test for fraud is literally 'what's your name and address' (no ID needed) but what can you do?
This is the future you chose. I hope you enjoy being cucked by increased austerity and Tory cuts.
>>73171652
ukip support it now.
all parties who get fucked by fptp support it, but once they pass that magic 37% of the vote mark and they get a majority their opinion suddenly changes. Labour in 97 were elected for electoral reform which they dropped
Our only hope is a glorious meme party coalition in 2020, however the country would soon collapse
>>73171884
29 lad atm
>>73171905
>Implying austerity is a bad thing
>>73171154
>I'm willing to bet he was drunk. Legally that cannot prevent you from voting
God I love this country some times.
>>73171926
Sexcellent.
UKIP gaining ground lads.
Well done all!
>>73171444
Great job on letting your country down again once more.
Fuckssake, why even bother going here while you cannot be even arsed to vote, you lazy fucking bum.
>>73171905
Having big government out of your life is the definition of being uncucked m8.
>>73171670
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D'Hondt_method
Despite how simple this looks Green faggots misunderstood it and pushed for SNP/Green split votes. It's a surprisingly elegant system though.
>>73171818
>But it is the same at all levels of society.
Don't forget the Royal Mail shit. Osbourne's best man making millions is all well and good but don't you dare have a spare bedroom.
>We need more industry and tourism.
Industry is needed in the West in general. Tourism is hard to force sadly.
>We were a powerhouse of industry.
UK as a whole was and it was fucked over for political reasons. Death of the politicised working class and tying us to the EU was always the goal.
>>73169953
I was the Con. candidate in Kirkcaldy
Well done to Wales, I love you guys.
t. England.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2016/councils
>Labour dropping LOL
LOLOLOL UKIP getting 29 Councillors. This is a good day, but it'll be ruined by that Muslim becoming mayor.
What percentage of the +/- are in lads
Are UKIP confirmed for +29 now or could they still rise?
DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT WILDFIRES
>>73170794
hello refugeeland
Can't wait for Jezza to become PM desu lads.
>>73172098
Still more councils to come on, last on declares Sunday (Bristol city)
>>73171670
Mark my words: if RISE/Green/Solidarity etc had voted SNP, I bet you the numbers are such that they'd get more seats - even in say, Glasgow.
But Greens will flip their shit if you point out that Ruth Davidson and Kezia Dugdale have been their primary beneficiaries.
>A-actually it shows SNP 2nd votes weren't needed after all, Y-you're the ones who voted wrong.
Hahahahaha.
>>73172098
They could rise I think?
As it stands, they have 29.
I don't know much else as I'm the high guy from yesterday.
HIGH everyone!!!
My constituency remains tory.
wew lad.
>>73172098
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2016/councils
After 96 of 124 councils, 28 left to go.
>>73172098
Could still rise but not by much
>>73172233
SNP here :(
>>73169386
Eat shit
>>73171950
>God I love this country some times.
>Dogs may not yet be entitled to vote but they are allowed to come and watch as long as they don't disrupt the vote. According to previous guidance issued by the Electoral Commission, dogs must be in an "accompanying" role rather than "free-range".
>In cases where a voter has two or more dogs and will struggle to control them while casting their ballot, polling station staff may hold the dogs' leads. Rural constituencies might have cases of voters riding to the polling station. In such cases, horses and ponies should be tethered up outside. There is no guidance on other animals such as rabbits, ferrets or pot-bellied pigs, so any decision will be at the discretion of presiding officers.
>Yes. Polling station staff cannot refuse a voter simply because they are drunk or under the influence of drugs. However, if the presiding officer suspects you are incapable of voting you will be asked a series of questions to determine whether you are up to the task of casting your ballot. If the voter cannot answer satisfactorily they will be told to come back when they've sobered up.
Of relevance to that other anon by the way:
>People do occasionally sign their ballots but these votes do not count. They are considered rejected ballots because the voter has revealed their identity and breached the rules of a secret ballot.
>Signing your ballot paper was fairly common in the 19th Century when candidates would pay people to vote for them. Under that corrupt system it was possible for the candidate to check up later who had voted for them by looking for signatures, and pay out accordingly. Today, however innocent the motive, a signature renders a ballot "rejected".
>>73172082
>Don't forget the Royal Mail shit. Osbourne's best man making millions is all well and good but don't you dare have a spare bedroom.
>'Bedroom Tax'
Fuck off. Tax payers should not have to fund people to live in houses bigger than they require, quite possibly bigger than the houses they live in themselves.
Whether left or right, what self respecting tax payer can support giving LITERALLY FREE tax money to private landlords because a single person says they require a spare bedroom?
>>73172087
Cheers lad, UKIP 7 seats at the assembly, Labour BTFO, sun is shining.
What a day
>>73172098
>>73172184
>>73172213
Been a bit out the loop cos of work, so, I guess it's disappointing we didn't see as big a labour blowout as we could have (at least it guarantees commie hilarity for the next 4 years and then they get raped), but at least UKIP made some natty gainz? High energy.
>>73169953
>snp took edinburgh north
>tfw you're behind enemy lines
>>73169386
>Who's master plan is to let in 6.6 trillion billion rapefugees.
Get out of here Eternal Kraut.
>>73172375
Labour should have suffered more I agree but UKIP doing well brings a smile on my face.
>>73172353
That's a good ladm8, I was on here yesterday telling the Welsh how cute my Welsh Pepe Is, do you think he's a cute Welsh Pepe.
Also
>tfw you're Tsundre for Male Welsh accents because they're really quite relaxing.
N-no homo though.
>>73172403
>>73172375
I see your point but the opposition getting btfo like this is still very significant
>>73171914
It's sad really. AMS really does make for better politics.
>>73172329
>Fuck off. Tax payers should not have to fund people to live in houses bigger than they require, quite possibly bigger than the houses they live in themselves.
Forcing someone to move just because they have a spare room is a fine policy in London, perhaps, but in the rest of the UK having a spare room isn't such a huge deal.
Regardless I was mocking the fact that a spare room is terrible while selling off the fucking Royal Mail to your friends for millions in THEIR profit is fine.
The fact those same friends fund your party direct makes it worse.
The cons will bitch about a few people who abuse the system and fair enough but those same politicians avoid paying tax at all costs. The SNP, UKIP and Greens may be flawed but at least they are not all into this tax evasion shit. On the rare occasion one of them IS caught doing something mildly questionable it's a huge story while expenses fiddling from lab/con/lib is generally ignored.
>>73172517
Cheers lad, I'm blushing
Very cute pepe.
I'm pretty confident wales will lead the OUT vote on the referendum
>>73172630
>tfw I can't hire a handsome looking Welshman and pay him just to talk to me at night time whilst I go to sleep.
No raping me tho pls.
>>73171185
>
I'm English and voted Conservative for both votes. Didn't work on constituency but got 3/7 on regional.
>>73172630
Today has been a great one for OUT, UKIP growth shows people are getting to grips with it.
I'm just worried IN corruption will kill it
>>73169998
FFS man, why cant these lazy fucks get out and vote...
>>73172329
>to private landlords
That's the rub of the thing, isn't it.
But then when you ask for more state funded housing...
>>73172082
Yeah, and the worst part about tourism up here is the weather.
I love the weather personally, but a lot of people don't.
We need to try push for similar weather regions since they are used to the hectic climate.
>>73172329
See, I actually agree with this partially.
The problems with the bedroom tax is there is no decent small-houses for singles or small couples.
One of the few decent things the Tories did in their time was drop the requirements for square footage on housing, so you can make all sorts of tiny living spaces now.
It was hoped it would spur a bunch of new compact housing for people to get out in to the world and actually have their own home instead of being with parents, but it never came to fruition sadly.
So we have people STUCK in homes they can't afford to live in, is more accurate.
It is like the whole "can't afford to buy all this food" issue that happened during the recession, so large amounts of it went to waste.
His point i-, well he just made his point there >>73172585
The abuse in the government is being covered by other silly things to make it look like they were doing shit when in actual fact they were costing us more money in the long run, for the average person.
They destroyed many decent public services and cut their own taxes in the process, then just offset their income to a future point to try hide it even more.
I still laugh thinking back to when the Panama Papers came out and Cameron switched his response about 5 times in the space of a few days. Priceless fuck-up.
Still, nothing will be done.
>>73169998
>Trusting people who count votes.
>>73169114
Does this mean UKIP will win and you guys can Brexit? It'd make me happy to see the 4th reich(EU) fall
>>73171185
/r/wales are same the same about UKIP kek
https://www.reddit.com/r/Wales/comments/4i48t7/i_never_thought_id_say_this_but_today_im_actually/
Labour can't win 2020 without Scotland can they?
"if 306 people had switched to the SNP in two seats (EDI CENT AND DUMB) they would have a majority. That"
>Edi cent
BRAVO
GREENS
Fucking bet you DUMB is the same. DUMB Greens.
>>73172543
What a great graph.
>>73172778
>Does this mean UKIP will win
no, it's only council elections in England and Scots/Welsh elections
>Brexit
50/50 at the minute
>>73172585
And another note on the bedroom tax: a lack of social housing would not be an issue if bullshit like right to buy wasn't around.
Once all the good council housing is gone you're stuck with what's available. If you've got an extra bedroom enjoy moving fuck knows where. Removing people (particularly kids) from the community they've grown up in leaves them angry and in a place they don't care about and will happily destroy.
Right to Buy is and was a terrible idea. Fucking over the poor then complaining that they're fucked over isn't good long-term thinking it's just a short-term vote winner.
>>73172767
>We need to try push for similar weather regions since they are used to the hectic climate.
The sorry state of the coastal villages isn't helping either. The EU is, in part, responsible for that due to silly rules on fishing.
Another good reason to leave that pile of shit.
>>73172720
I will sing you lullabies for a night with your best lamb
>>73172087
>it'll be ruined by the muslim becoming mayor
Isn't it a preferential vote system? Maybe the merchant will make a comeback in the second count
Don't lose hope englandbro
>>73172848
Not a chance, Corbyn is too left to make up the difference in England.
>>73171974
lmao not only are councillors IRRELEVANT but 29 is a pitiful number
Not an amazing night for Labour but not a terrible one either.
Though it is funny as fuck to see the media have to backtrack on the collapse they predicted Labour would experience. Also, I think it's pretty clear now that polling is used to drive public opinion rather than actually represent it.
>>73172909
And I as an Englishman will protect you and your family in your time of need.
You have my spoon anon.
>>73172879
While I dislike the Greens I'd rather they forced the SNP to work with the Cons so this result has worked well. Indeed the Greens stupidity will probably cause an argument and finally rid us of those crazy shits.
>>73172585
>Forcing someone to move just because they have a spare room is a fine policy in London, perhaps, but in the rest of the UK having a spare room isn't such a huge deal.
They are not 'forced to move'. They are forced to pay the market value for the property they are rented and not have the tax payer entirely subsidise it.
If a working family can only afford a two bedroom property, why should someone completely funded by housing benefit be granted a three bedroom house they do no require? This money is then going to private landlords, who have bought up social housing stock and are now making a fortune off of them at the tax payer's expense.
>The cons will bitch about a few people who abuse the system and fair enough but those same politicians avoid paying tax at all costs.
Tax evasion is universal. The only difference is that the more assets you have the more you gain by avoiding paying tax. The number of people that avoid paying council tax by not registering in the property they live in would like be in the 100,000s. I've not seen anyone complain about this yet.
>>73172995
It's weird. It's a labour collapse in Scotland.
Their vote is down in Wales but they only lost one seat because of it.
In England they're not losing but not winning either.
>>73172819
Fucking embarrassing kin
>>73172848
Even with every seat in Scotland they wouldn't have won 2015.
Actually Scotland hasn't been key to a Labour majority for a long time either.
But 2020 will have bigger headaches than Scotland for Labour. UKIP surge in the North, for example.
>>73172991
It's a baby step, they did well in Euro elections.
G.E they got a shit load of votes but FPTP is scum.
We're on our way, the establishment had better fucking wake up and wake up quickly.
>>73172979
Ah right. Well that's me looking DUMB.
Fuck how I wish they'd got Baillie. Anyone but her.
Still, bet you someone can haul out a region where they fucked the list vote.
>>73173019
I just like mocking how much they've fucked their own cause.
>>73170997
Exactly you trade alot with the eu. What do you think will happen when all your trade agrementes with the eu are gone? And evry trader get a tariffs on what they are selling to the uk or buying from the uk. The trade with uk will drop big time, they will start to trade with cheaper alternatives inside of the eu insted. Your econemy won't handel that sudden shift.
>>73172848
He can form a coalition with the SNP and REALLY fuck over England if the Tories don't get enough seats though.
>>73172848
I'm not sure how long the union will remain together anyway. If it was still going strong in 2020 then I wouldn't be surprised to see a SNP Labour coalition take control of Westminster.
>>73173113
>coalition with the SNP
hate this phrase
it would never happen
it would be an informal agreement.
>>73173102
>the establishment had better fucking wake up and wake up quickly
Nah, let them sleep.
>>73173205
Fine supply and demand, its effectively the same thing a minority Labour administration who couldn't win in England, being propped up by a party who's only interest is Scotland.
>>73173113
>>73173194
Fear of the SNP makes Labour get fucked in Southern England
>>73172903
Yeah, as I was about to post in the other thread before it died, some coastal towns are improving, but a lot of them are in a hell of a state.
I live in Ayr myself, it is sort of half-improving and half a shit state.
One section of the shoreline is being tidied up, while the other is left to rot.
And they decided to push a shitload of old-folks homes AT THE HARBOUR. WHY?!
The family has a little holiday flat up in Largs, Largs has improved so much more than Ayr has.
Love that place.
Might even move there one day.
I had such a comfy dream years ago of building a house up on the hills there.
Improving the coastal areas and using it in tourism advertising would go a long way to help that.
I think we get like 3-5% of money from tourism. It could be much higher if we really pushed for it.
Creating lots of indoor areas around the coastal areas as well as outdoor areas will help on the times where the weather decides "LOL NOPE" and snows in the middle of summer.
Dear Wales, does the name Wales make you mad, considering its etymological source?
>>73173393
Cymru lad
>>73172767
>The problems with the bedroom tax is there is no decent small-houses for singles or small couples.
The problem is that people expect the government to provide them with free housing. You can have any size of a property that you want - but you have to pay for it yourself.
I work as an estate agent and have done for several years. While my anecdotal evidence is exclusive for the areas we cover (Not London/South East England), I can tell you that there is always properties available for those that are actually working and are able to pay for them.
When you see Labour supporter on the news complaining that they can't find a property to downsize in, that's because a large amount of landlords aren't willing to accept someone on the dole. If someone isn't able to provide for themselves, how can you trust them to pay their rent on time?
:( lads
Gonna miss Boris ,fucking crazy old toff.
>>73173393
Don't care desu senpai, I identifying as british first, then welsh. I'm 50/50 anglo/celt so
>>73172995
>completely shitter shattered in scotland
>vote share down significantly in wales
>unironically lost a safe seat to plaid cumrag
>haemorrhaging council seats in england as the opposition party after a six year tory government immediately after a massive upsurge in membership under a new leadership with an overwhelming mandate amid doctors strikes and after a series of utterly shocking budgets
>somehow anything other than terrible
McDonnell please go, I could shit in an old boot and leave it out in the sun for four days and it'd still have more popular appeal than lelbour
>>73173490
He'll be back, don't worry kippa
>>73173111
Yeah we trade a lot with the EU, so much so we actually run a trade deficit with them.
Do you know what that means? It means we buy more than they sell to us.
Which means we have the monopoly here, seeing as your companies don't want to lose their export market over pettiness political dickery moves that will in turn harm the EU and German/European companies that want to continue to sell their products to us, but if those tariffs go up, then we aint buying and your companies who generate the real wealth within your nations have more power than the government.
As the saying goes, he who has the gold makes the rules.
>>73173324
True but if they had enough votes together to form a majority then it wouldn't matter what South England thought.
Miliband denied he would form one throughout the last GE but I bet he would've jumped in bed with the SNP in an instant if it meant gaining power.
>>73172991
They've trebled their count and more importantly shown people they're a threat to Labour not the Cons.
>>73173060
>They are not 'forced to move'. They are forced to pay the market value for the property they are rented and not have the tax payer entirely subsidise it.
Firstly a working couple can be on housing benefit doubly so if one is a mother.
Secondly there are often few other options other than moving out of the place you've lived for years if not your entire life (and that of your parents). In the countryside one bedroom makes little-no difference anyway. And again remember the lack of other social housing is a result of policies pushed by both Con and Lab.
>who have bought up social housing stock and are now making a fortune off of them at the tax payer's expense.
A direct result of the policies of these same politicians. Then they force these families to move out, causing damage to communities and a rise in crime which then fucks over everyone. Often the housing they're forced to move to is out in the countryside also so that little village or town has to put up with a violent urban family angry at having had to move and with no motive to act friendly. Fuck I watched this happen repeatedly, in fact, and it caused nothing but trouble for the locals (my family included). It was an issue even pre-Bedroom tax due to the sheer lack of housing.
>Tax evasion is universal. The only difference is that the more assets you have the more you gain by avoiding paying tax. The number of people that avoid paying council tax by not registering in the property they live in would like be in the 100,000s. I've not seen anyone complain about this yet.
Council tax is deeply flawed anyway and was just another way of painting councils into a corner then blaming them for the problems. Most of the banding was done by driving past buildings, for example, and councillors often end up living in places with excessively low banding.
>>73173539
>>73173597
Mayor is a meme position anyway
Why can't we make him eternal mayor or some shit
Whens the brexit vote?
>>73173679
He'll be PM once Dave is ousted after we leave the EU.
SCREENSHOT THIS
>>73173711
23rd June
>>73173711
23 June
>>73173517
>unironically lost a safe seat to plaid cumrag
I'd lose my virginity to this Plaid if you know what I mean.
>>73173543
To be honest I'd have loved to have seen Jim Murphy's "The biggest party in [however the fuck many years it was, conveniently like 1 year before the first Labour government was formed without being biggest] forms the government!" played on the news over and over again, would've been comedy gold.
/ laughing at London /
https://instasync.com/r/happeningroom
>yfw Rotherham votes in labour agin
>>73173760
>>73173767
Praying for you guys, may Kek smile upon you that day.
>>73173816
Not are fault new labour let all these niggers and pakis in m8
>>73173861
Why wouldn't they vote in the system that let them get away with it?
>>73173869
God bless anglo-brother, may strong borders and western civilisation be upon you
>>73173861
>pakis vote for paki enablers
inevitable mate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjYLWadz5Yc
New Condell vid, IN 50FPS.
>>73173861
At this point, I'm pretty sure that a 100% turnout with a 100% vote for UKIP would result in a victory for Labour.
>>73173110
>I just like mocking how much they've fucked their own cause.
Better to get them out now certainly.
>>73173111
>Exactly you trade alot with the eu. What do you think will happen when all your trade agrementes with the eu are gone? And evry trader get a tariffs on what they are selling to the uk or buying from the uk. The trade with uk will drop big time, they will start to trade with cheaper alternatives inside of the eu insted. Your econemy won't handel that sudden shift.
Germany alone exports more to the UK than the UK does to the entirety of the EU. Do you understand what that means in terms of tariffs or are you fucking mentally deficient? In addition to having to pick up that billions of £s in deficit they'll lose money there. But hey Germany are known not to bitch about paying for things or using their influence to force changes so you'll be fine.
>>73173364
>I live in Ayr myself, it is sort of half-improving and half a shit state.
I'm from Angus originally and the state of some of the towns there is terrible. The removal of the railways in the 60s was excessively damaging and the love of using bypasses to avoid them finished most off. Arbroath is in a sorry state for such a historic place.
The reason such places are SNP 'heartlands' is simply a complete failure of any other party to do fucking anything.
>I think we get like 3-5% of money from tourism. It could be much higher if we really pushed for it.
Can't live on tourism alone though anon.
Fishing is a big one and again the EU fucks us over on that to benefit the Spanish. EFTA would be ideal and would help relations with the Icelandic fuckers who get touchy on the whole fish thing.
>>73173473
Exactly.
So many of them refuse to deal with people on welfare because of some stupid stereotype against them. Shits awfully stupid.
These people just get trapped in to houses they can't afford.
The choices to downsize are limited, so they end up wasting MORE money on trying to live in a house they can't afford.
If they could get in to a smaller house, they'd have more money in order to pay the lower rents.
Logical.
But this is just seen as "too risky" for a lot of landlords.
They see welfare receivers as scummy and poor retards because they are cursed by knowledge, they cannot see the world from their viewpoint.
They automatically assume the government can Do No Wrong when in fact this current government have CREATED so many grey-areas where people are left to rot.
People that can't work enough to be employable in most jobs, but not ill enough to be on welfare. Get sidelined instead of helped to find work.
Group gets set up to help these people find work, it just had its budget cut. FUCK.
Now Universal Credit has been shit on as well.
They even cut help to people that COULD work but couldn't work in a job that supports their disability, so these people CANNOT WORK now, so cost even more money to the taxpayer.
DOUBLE FUCK.
PUNISHING WELFARE SYSTEMS DO NOT WORK.
They only create more crime, more poverty and leave masses of people stuck in a position they cannot ever escape unless they are extremely lucky.
>>73173586
>Firstly a working couple can be on housing benefit doubly so if one is a mother.
Can be, certainly. Does not make you any more entitled to live in any area at the tax payers' expense because you cannot find a cheaper alternative.
>And again remember the lack of other social housing is a result of policies pushed by both Con and Lab.
No political party is encouraging the large scale building of social housing that is required to replace that which has been sold. The SNP have made no efforts to do so in Scotland, Plaid are not attempting to do so in Wales and UKIP's answer to social housing is to halt migration, which will help but not resolve the problem we have now.
>>73173748
I'd put my money on Ruth Davidson actually.
She's been delibertly evading questions about her future and she's wildly popular inside the party.
Boris would be electoral suicide in most of the UK as he's really too London. Certainly they'd lose all these gains in Scotland.
>>73173517
Scotland collapse was predictable as fuck. Labour got destroyed by the SNP in 2015 and the Scottish Labour oarty hadn't done much to address why that happened. Labour are done in Scotland until they can find a way to keep both the unionists and independence fags on side. Pretty much an impossible job but we'll see how they react to this result.
Tory vote was down in Wales as well not to mention they lost 3 seats while Labour only lost 1. The rise of UKIP is expected considering the impending referendum but once that goes I'd expect to see them fall like a rock.
In England Labour have only actually lost 8 seats and 1 council (out of 50). That's literally nothing compared to the 100+ the media predicted. They've even managed to increase their vote share in London and will likely have the new mayor.
So as I said, not great but not terrible either. After only 8 months in charge Cornyn hasn't had a great deal of time to stamp his identity on the party - especially considering all of the infighting going on. Miliband had 2 years before his local election. Also those issues you've mentioned have literally been drowned out by that bullshit antisemitism row over the last 2 weeks. Most voters have memories of goldfish so I wouldn't be surprised if the media's lefty jewhate blitzkrieg had a significant effect.
Brit/pol/, i've been lurking for a while now, but i still cant tell, do you guys ironically support UKIP or do you seriously support them?
>>73174133
>lesbian PM
>but is a tory
SJWs' heads would explode
Goodbye London, prepare to get meme'd to death bongs
>>73174133
>Boris would be electoral suicide
My God, first the 21 year old SNP MP and now this. The left will really vote in anything won't they?
