Fuck this shit hole nannystate we live in. Degenerate or not smoking is not something the government should be simply taxing out of existence.
http://www.baka.com.au/business/federal-budget/budget-2016-40-cigarettes-will-force-smokers-into-black-market-claims-tobacco-industry-20160504-goly6v.html
If the link comes up with baka replace baka with the letters: s m h
Good. Less shitposting.
>durry prices rocket up
>its now cheaper/more economical to buy weed, gear or booze to get the same feeling
BRAVO
How much do smokers cost the tax payer in medical fees?
That's the only argument i can think of for these taxes.
>>73167456
>tfw stopped smoking 2 months ago and no longer have to worry about the prices of those cancer sticks
>>73167456
Yet the fucking degenerate lefties want to legalize marijuana.... The smoke is what kills you. Not the plant
>2016
>not growing your own tobacco
>>73167564
It already covers the difference.
Are cigs more addictive than heroin?
Watch as tobacco revenue dries up and alcohol becomes the next big thing to tax.
>>73167456
Taxing cigs is lazy, and worse, it is regressive since the poor smoke more than anyone else.
>>73167564
And how much tax revenue does the government profit on thanks to smokers?
>>73167662
I believe so in terms of psychological addiction.
>>73167674
too many politicians love alcohol for that
>>73167873
In that case m8 they just try to tax the type of alcohol they don't drink and leave alone the types they do drink.
A few years ago here they targeted pre-mixed flavoured alcoholic drinks only - the type young sluts drink.
>>73167456
Those extra taxes pay for your inevitable state-provided medical care. Stop being a mooch off of non-smokers. Fucking welfare bum.
>>73167456
is this just cigs or is tobacco you roll yourself also taxed like this?
>>73167674
Alcohol already is more highly taxed.
>>73167456
Smoking actively makes society worse. The government smokers taxes dont cover the cost smoking causes on our health system.
If your healthcare is socialized, the government should be allowed to tax whatever the hell they want to pay back for the cost of your care when most will develop throat cancer.
>>73167583
>marijuana smoke kills you
B8 discarded.
>>73167674
Thats when people like >>73167578 will start caring about over governance.
>>73167981
It'll be a straight across the board 'Tobacco product' tax increase more than likely
>>73167981
>this year
>rolling your own cigarettes
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>73167578
congrats senpai
Smoking is faggot degeneracy.
>>73168040
Fuck off leaf, your healthcare isn't anything to write home about
>>73167564
How much do fat people cost in medical fees? Should fat people be obligated to pay twice as much for food as people who are fit?
>>73167497
Don't see how that logic works
Doesn't your entire country smoke like a chimney?
>>73167564
Its not only covers the difference, it exceeds the cost of smokers on the health system. Smokers do the health system a favour by taking themselves out of the health system early.
>>73167814
Something like over 80 per cent of the cost of a pack here is tax.
>>73168209
So if a pack of cigarettes was 5.00$, would the tax be ~4.50$(not actually doing the math, just estimating) bringing the total up to 9.50$? Because that's fucking insane
Buy them overseas in Duty Free shops and shit. A packet here costs around £10, while a carton (10 packets) in duty free is around £40 in Iceland, £30 in the US, £20-25 in Asia, etc. Legal import limit is 200 cigarettes (1 carton) per person without import duty, but i've brought in over 1000 without getting caught, several times.
The only reason they keep getting taxed is because niggers are willing to pay so much for so little - cigarettes have huge price elasticity. That being said, we have to pay for 'muh NHS' somehow, so it's unlikely the price will ever drop here..
>>73168348
Almost like an incentive to quit or something.
Smokers can fuck right off. They litter every fucking place with their stumps, somebody has to clean that shit up or it will look like India. That costs money, money that smokers are not willing to pay for the right to make a mess of every place they go to. They also smell like shit.
I am so happy to see the price of cigs going up. Suits you entitled shit dicks good. Either clean up for fuck off.
>>73167456
>complaining that commiting suicide slowly over several years is getting more expensive.
>>73168539
someone's angry
>>73168433
Oh, yeah. I'd quit immediately
>a pack of winnie blues costs $30 at my local bowling club
man it must really suck to be a smoker right now rofl. most of my friends have quit but thats mainly due to personal reasons, not cost related
im glad i dont smoke. well i got asthma anyway so i dont have a choice
>>73167456
Rolled! You degenerate faggot.
>I love paying someone money to slowly kill me.
Its simple economics. People don't really give a shit about the price of it, they'll buy it no matter what, so why not tax it out of existence?
>>73168428
im not sure if its legal to import tobacco into australia, ive never looked into it
i know that theres alot of small shops in sydney that are selling chinese smokes at a reduced price (in comparison to everything else). they arent on the shelf though, you have to ask the person behind the counter and they go out the back to get them. its shady as fuck but people are willing to buy them
apparently chinese smokes are harsh as fuck, can anyone confirm?
How is this not a tax on the young, stupid, or lower class?
Shouldn't we be helping those people not preying on them?
>>73168539
>>73167977
>>73168037
>>73168040
>i instinctively hate anything and everything that reminds me of the parties i was never invited to growing up
>>73168841
Light (5 cigs a day) smoker here, at the moment my favourite brand (Peter Jackson Hybrid) is $21 a pack, I definitely think if it goes over $1 a cigarette (which would be $25) It'll be game over.
Fuck, now I've got my masturbation addiction under wraps, I think it's time for it to go now...
>>73167456
Good. Smoking kills and is degenerate. Hopefully it helps deter people from smoking.
>>73168348
>It costs around $2.80 to buy a packet of Marlboro cigarettes in China, the world's largest producer and market for cigarettes. The retail price in
>Australia is $20.60, almost 10 times higher.
The bulk of this price chasm is Australian taxes – $14 per pack in excise and almost $2 in GST. So 90 per cent of the difference is taxes. It would be hard to find a clearer price signal to establish a black market. The profit potential is enormous.
http://www.baka.com.au/comment/smoking-taxes-make-cigarette-smuggling-an-increasingly-attractive-option-20150515-gh31ch.html#ixzz47sGPs7SY
>>73168428
You aren't allowed to bring in more than 50 cigs at a time now. Limit used to be 200.
>>73168040
>>73167977
The government makes more than they spend on smokers already, you communist faggots.
Any Americans pissed that the FDA is now going to be regulating cigars?
>>73169042
We're helping them by not letting them afford to be faggots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmL72sgVdAQ
>>73169241
They'll still buy them, they'll do it at the expense of everything else
>>73169314
I guess some people are just born faggots then.
>>73169070
Wew lad
>ur just mad cuz I went to more parties than you
Good. Too many dingeridundus, faggot bogan degenerates and edgy hipsters smoking.
>Nanny state.
>Not allowing degeneracy.
>Thinking this is a problem.
>>73169087
a few of my mates used to buy hybrid cigarettes not for the menthol filter, but because they were alot cheaper than everything else. there the ones that you have to activate the filter by 'cracking' it arent they? i always thought PJs were the more expensive brand
yeah $1 a cig were schoolyard prices back when i was in high school. you might as well try and quit now, 5 light cigarettes a day is nothing. its one less thing to spend your money on
>>73169370
Yeah except this isn't Sparta and we're supposed to be above letting people rot if we deem them to be too weak
Why don't you just grow your own tobacco? Is that legal?
>>73168539
Agreed, fuck cigarette butts everywhere
>>73169402
totalitarian smokes here we come!
ive never understood why the hipsters smoke. im sure theres a valid reason but i honestly cant think of anything atm
>>73168539
mad mongol detected :D
your tax money already pays for the cleanliness of your city. that tax money comes from smokers you homo
>>73169493
It's illegal I believe.
Also I thought it was pretty easy to quit smoking (quit at the start of the year because the price is already too high) I really don't know what the big fuss is about, after a week I no longer had any cravings and i used to be a pack a day smoker.
>>73169474
If they choose cigs over groceries, that's not my problem. It's not like most of these people haven't heard that smoking kills.
>>73167662
No. Just look up an addictiveness chart. They are still pretty addictive. Weed is more addictive than one would think, but still not much. Based seratonin receptor bonding psychedelics aren't at all. (Mescaline, LSD, psilocybin, DMT)
>>73167793
Then they should stop being poor
Problem solved
>>73169597
>ive never understood why the hipsters smoke. im sure theres a valid reason but i honestly cant think of anything atm
It's because it's not mainstream, they also smoke rollies.
>>73169597
>ive never understood why the hipsters smoke
Smoking does happen to corrolate with a higher instance of mental illness.
>>73169699
Literally this desu
>>73168539
Holy shit, this. Fucking disgusting.
>Tfw one dollar for a pack.
>Tfw smoke 3 packs a day.
>Tfw grandfather died smoking 2 packs a day at age 80.
God bless freedom.
God bless Camels.
Here's looking at you kid.
>>73168110
Hard to smoke the tobacco you grow unless you roll it
lmao degenerate normies
You're paying your your foot amputations, 3D printed lungs and hospital bills of passive smokers
>>73169405
They are surprisingly cheaper, I like the menthol click.
I think the best way for me to quit will be to go on a camping trip or somewhere where I can't physically obtain them along with a whole heap of non stressful things to do, 3 days ought to do it.
Either that or I'll just do it to prove to myself I can, that's how I kicked porn.
>>73169493
even if it isnt legal, it doesnt stop people from doing it. the problem with growing tobacco is that smokers are addicted to everything in commercial cigarettes that they find it difficult to transition to grown tobacco. ive known a few people who have grown their own tobacco, and despite how much they tried they couldnt continue to smoke it after a week or so
im going to quit smoking tomorrow. Hope you guys will to. Prep for the race war, good luck
>>73169852
(We have free health care and socialism)
>>73168539
>>73169774
We all know it is disgusting. But they should be banned outright rather than cynically bleeding addicts dry.
It's outrageous that a government is doing this to its own people
>>73169926
Fucking ew.
>>73169878
>>73169645
holy shit, I looked it up and IT IS illegal, even for personal consumption, 50k fine and 2 years in prison
that's pretty fucked up senpai
do you have the same situation with cannabis?
>>73169949
If they make them illegal there'll be a public outcry; if they raise prices slowly they'll phase them out slowly
>>73170030
nikita my comrade you have no idea
>>73167497
If you think the shit posting is bad now, just imagine if all 23 million of us were tweaking from nicotine addiction.
Just you wait, they'll do this and then a week later mater pingers legal, but only if they're supplied by a company owned by Prepbull.
>not buying natives or for ten bucks a carton
plebs
>>73170030
im not too sure, i know if you get caught with 1-3 small plants you receive a fine and a slap on the wrist. i think ACT has different laws, a person is allowed to grow a very small amount of cannabis for personal use and thats it, although dont quote me on that
if you get caught with a small amount of weed you get fined, ect. but if you get caught and the weed is in multiple bags, you get done for dealing. the difference is huge from what i remember
Eat shit smokers, nothing pisses me off more than the smell in the morning on the job site.
Fucking litering degenerates.
>>73169042
in the long term you're helping them by disincentivizing the cigs, especially with young people
>>73167564
How many people leave their houses daily? Surely that increases health risks. We should have a normie tax as they're making medical costs higher.
>>73170264
It's not like tradies smell like roses otherwise
>>73169039
Chinese cigarettes are mostly fakes - it's an industry worth tens of billions of dollars and all sorts of shit gets mixed in.
One thesis analysis of these fake cigarettes found formaldehyde, trace radioactive elements, loads of feces and, in one special case, human tissue.
>>73167456
Well
Here in Chile they did a similar thing
A pack went up around 60% up
The government plan was to make people stop smoking
The result was: people keep smoking, same rate as before
New shit-tier cigarettes brands that you only can find in bad neighborhoods, and I can bet they come with 2x cancer
Illegal cigarettes from Argentina and pirates from China with literally feces inside on them
>>73168142
Of course they should, are you suggesting otherwise?
>>73170352
>formaldehyde, trace radioactive elements
literally all cigs contain that
>>73169402
>Wahhhhh
>Ban things I don't like
>Wahhhhh
>>>/Greens/
>>73170352
>One thesis analysis of these fake cigarettes found formaldehyde, trace radioactive elements, loads of feces and, in one special case, human tissue.
All of that is in normal smokes too, especially radioactive elements.
>>73167662
Anyone who truly wants to quit anything can.
Most times when people say they want to quit they don't truly want to.
>>73169775
Too bad I'll impregnate both your sister and your wife.
>>73170321
yeah we need a tax for unnecessary leaving of the house and a tax for not leaving as well. Only the citizen that follows the recommendations fully gets a tax relief
>>73170418
>>73170441
There's a difference between trace contaminants, and levels that make the tobacco seem like child's play.
>>73167456
This is the result of socialized medicine. Once you ask the government to pay for your healthcare, the government now has a say in what you consume and how much.
Don't like a big government nanny state? Stop asking the government for free shit.
>>73168040
I pay enough in taxes, nerd.
>>73170437
Smoking is degenerate, and degeneracy should be removed from society.
>>73167456
>quit smoking and nothing worked but vaping
>fda starts to regulate vaping
fml
>>73167456
We're going to get rid of them as well. Going to be replaced by marijuana in the near future don't know if that is win or a lose.
Either way alcohol will be next up on the chopping block kek once that gets taxed to smithereens.
>>73170660
vapes are banned here too lmao
>>73170437
Smoking degenerate detected. Tell me why you smoke and what benefits you get out of it?
By the way, i'm voting Liberal. Way to make a shitty assumption.
>>73170610
Smokers remove themselves at their own pace.
You're a virgin NEET, who most likely lives off autism bucks, you're the epitome of degeneration in our society.
>>73170762
I'm not a smoker.
But smokers are far less degenerate than you 'MUH FEELS' cucks.
>>73169670
Weed isn't addictive any more than a lazy lifestyle is addictive.
Yeah nah, Peter Jackson Gold Regular to Fresh 25s m8, cheers.
Also, Tuesday's budget cut down duty free cigs to 25 per person. Shit's fucked.
>>73169777
just chew it and spit the dregs at normies
>>73170996
Bullshit.
>the "weed isn't addictive" meme
>I can stop if I wanted
honestly though i wonder how many people will switch to rollies?
the same question gets asked every time there is an increase but it will be interesting to see if theres a "cutoff price" before everyone turns to alternatives
the greens (or one of those parties) were pushing for the usual vape shit lately
>>73167564
covers the cost 6 times over currently.
>>73169039
Yeah they're shit. Usually try to make it aromatic, it's full of stem, weak as piss, and just doesn't burn well. Do not want.
>>73170759
jesus
>>73170352
Got one half full of hair, fucking hair.
>>73171168
No one quits due to price, they just start to smoke illegal shit instead.
Welp looks like I'll have to create a new business model and start importing cigarettes from indochina. Should make a nice pile of tax free cash.
>>73171095
There is empirical evidence, I did a half assed paper on it.
>>73170848
>You're a virgin NEET, who most likely lives off autism bucks, you're the epitome of degeneration in our society.
Nah m8, I'm lawyer, I have to put up with degenerates on a daily basis.
>>73171360
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>>73171334
Fuck your paper, explain the homeless dudes on the street begging for weed money.
>>73171240
Probably pubes, the asians used to press pubic hair into hidden cuts in the meat at an abattoir I used to work at.
>>73168142
>>73167456
>Government tries to take away degeneracy
>People think this is a bad thing.
Your flag is showing
>>73171469
Explain the homeless dudes begging for Maccas money.
>>73169402
abbos wont stop smoking m8 now they're just gonna mug you for money so they can go buy their $40 ciggies.
>>73171469
Emotional, psychological and physiological addiction are all different things.
You can emotionally and psychologically addicted to locking printer paper, but you can't get physiologically addicted.
>>73171529
>cheap food
>a "nonaddictive" drug
>>73171414
No need to be jelly m80.
btw what happened with this supposed "sugar tax"?
did anything come about from it?
>>73171529
>Not going to Maccas and buying like 20 $1 cheeseburgers and handing them out to only the white homeless.
>>73171488
...w-why?
>>73171584
This is what I would say if I payed attention in class.
>>73171620
Not really, I have no HECS, and I'm earning $75k before bonuses.
>>73171584
So what you're saying is that it's addictive.
>>73171632
No clue, but ramping up tax on sugar would be a great idea, might actually help those fat cunts to loose a few kgs.
>>73171632
Turnbull was doing a strategy of "leaks" to gauge reaction heading into election. Sugar tax and increased gst were big favorability losses
>>73171584
weed chemically alters how your neurons communicate, it's an actual drug
>>73168209
>not only covers but exceeds the cost on the health system
got evidence?
We should just set up some fucking work camps for people who've been on the dole for 10years+
>>73171724
What I'm saying is it's not chemically addictive.
It's about as addictive as wiping your arse.
If that's your qualification to ban something, we'd all be living like Indians.
>>73171529
they spent the rest of it on alcohol
>>73171761
No fat shame pls senpai
Grow your own and learn to cure it, immerse yourself in a tradition dating thousands of years
Tobacco grows like garden weeds.
>>73171772
No shit, but it's not chemically addictive.
Food is more chemically addictive than weed.
>>73171830
>Half of /pol/ goes silent.
>>73171696
That's nice m80, when I went to Uni we didn't even have HECS.
>>73171830
Why not just give them paid jobs fixing our shitty infrastructure?
>>73167456
Don't worry aussie. Here in California our retarded governor and his "diverse" team bumped up the smoking age to 21. Even though you can step on an anti-personnel mine and have your legs blown off in the military: still can't have a fucking sip of booze or a smoke legally...
>>73171834
"muh cannabis use disorder"
>>73167456
smoking is degenerate anyway, nothing but poison
>>73168539
>Not smokenings rööki after 16 year old
Were you bullied at school or something? Fucking loser.
>>73171880
It's as illegal as making actual drugs here.
>>73171932
So, you're at least in your 50's and you're wasting what precious few years you have left on this fucking site?
>>73171881
Source? Preferably a peer-reviewed one.
>>73170187
hopefully you'll get to something worse and die off soon enough
>>73167456
People who smoke should be rounded in camps desu.
Fucking addicts.
>>73172014
I just come on here for a laugh during the night.
>>73171615
Anything can be addicting. You are trying to say that weed is addictive like heroine, which implies a physiological addiction. It's not, the addiction someone may have for weed is emotional or psychological; no different to any other general addiction such as eating snot.
>>73171414
>everyone on 4chan is a NEET
I want this meme to die. Most NEETs are from /r9k/.
>>73171937
cos there's already far less jobs than jobless
>>73171967
>Thinking that's actually a thing.
People who get "addicted" to weed do so because they use it as an emotional or psychological crutch, getting rid of it is like stealing someone's prosthetic leg, it's not going to do them any harm taking it away, but it will make them sad.
>>73170443
Look up benzo withdrawals faggot
Cigs I agree if you really want to you can but there are drugs out there in which the withdrawals can kill you, it's not a simple as wanting to quit
>>73172014
Nigger, tobacco plants look like every fucking leaf plant in the forest
You can cure it and knot it in your smoke house with your kangaroo meat or something.
>>73171881
>Why and how does marijuana affect the brain? THC leads to changes in the brain that disrupt the chemical neurotransmitters linked to feelings of pleasure. Specifically, cannabis affects nerve receptors which influence memory, thought, concentration, and sensory time perception.
http://drug.addictionblog.org/is-thc-addictive/
>>73168539
streets are cleaned periodicaly regardlees of their actual state
>>73171674
Why come on pol and talk about gassing kikes and slaying niggers? It's fun to imagine kids like you chowing down on sweaty pubes. I did it a few times myself. We also rubbed shit and pus into hidden wounds.
>>73172117
then why do the streets fall apart?
create more infrastructure jobs with dole money
>>73169915
God speed, anon, God speed!
>>73172046
>Implying shit posting is not eternal.
If I die, two others will replace me.
>>73172027
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2797098/
>>73170762
>smoking is degenerate.
>whole country is degenerate
the antismoking crowd is toptier faggotry.
>>73172115
Fuck off NEET.
>>73172185
>Smoke house.
Nigger, whilst we don't have refugee rape gangs, we also don't have smoke houses.
>>73172189
Yes and that's psychoactive, but it is not chemical dependence.
Food creates more chemical dependence.
>mfw a pack of imported cigs is less than 5 dollars
>mfw I get my vodka right before class, for 13 dollars.
Living in a shithole like Mexico has its advantages, Im now looking for some Aderall or benzos, probably steroids in the future.
>>73171853
That's not fat shaming..
/this/ is fat shaming
voat.co
/v/fatpeoplehate
Raising the taxes for smokes this high is only gonna end up bring back bootleg tobacco.
Good, fuck hypocrite tobacco smokers.
>Started with smoking
>Mother concerned
>Stopped smoking easy
>Cranky one day
>Friend gives me snus
>Started with snus
>Mother concerned
>Can't stop snusing
I am a disgrace to my mother
>mfw my smokes are better and cheaper
>mfw you will never smoke American Spirit blacks
>mfw American
>>73172418
>Food creates more chemical dependence.
you're dependent on food the day you are born, retard
also psychoactive > locking printer paper
>>73172567
Well don't worry, Ahmed and Shimal are keeping her company.
>>73172567
and her Arab boyfriend. Bet your father doesn't care, wasting away in the crack house.
Fuck this stupid government.
They tax EVERYTHING here. Our wages are fucking shit, even if you earn 80k a year or more. Housing, food, cigs, alcohol, anything and everything is taxed or price hiked.
It's not even worth it. You're much better off as a educated white living somewhere like America. Just leave this cunt hole for the Arabs, chinks and nanny state cocksucker bootlickers. Fuck Australia. How can anyone be proud of this shithole anymore? Honestly if you're a non drinker you soon sober up to why so many people drink away their miserable existence in this bubble wrapped cunt of a country.
>>73172606
There is still no level of chemical dependence caused by marijuana, whilst the psychoactive effect does make it easier for emotional and psychological addictions to Form, it still doesn't make the substance chemically addictive.
>>73172663
gotta pay for those immigrants
>>73172606
>you're dependent on food the day you are born, retard
That's the definition of dependence >.<
>>73167578
Good job, 4 months here. Keep it going.
>>73172742
Oh yeah we gotta pay for them and their family of 8 to scam the welfare system. Get them in government housing so they can all stick their dole cheques into the bank and buy a fish and chip shop or some fucking franchise. FUCK I'M. ANGRY
fuck this uneducated bread, im going back to watching highschool DxD borN.
You're all normies.
>Smoking
Serves you the fuck right honestly.
>>73172956
>Becoming inadequate and irrelevant on the world stage.
>Now only a retirement home for Britcucks.
Serves you right.
>>73172956
smokers disgust me. its worse than taking a shit in front of you. they think every single outdoor terrace or fresco is a fucking smoking gallery so nobody else can enjoy the outdoors without getting a mouth full of their putrid gas.
>>73169070
I smoked a pack a day and drank like a fish in high school. Then I grew the fuck up. You might do the same if you ever stop being bogan trash. Pay your share or fuck off. Sound familiar? Probably your father's last words before he kicked your mooch ass out.
>>73167456
The state just doesn't want their worker drones to expire before the calculated expiring date
Work your ass off first, then you are free to die (quickly please)
>>73167456
Two words you fucking aussie
IN VEST
>>73173095
>>>/Melbourne/
There are literally millions of square kilometres in this country, just take three more steps, or roll a bit further on your mobility scooter.
>>73167456
40 shekels? WTF that's worse than here, and you are miles away from Poland, Lithuania etc..
>no poles or lits can save you from this, or smuggling friends
Dude you are fucked. You need to start growing your own. It ain't hard, seeds can be ordered online really cheap. You got climate for it too. I've managed here for the keks.
>Curing the tobacco is important, I can't into this
>>73173095
Oh you enjoy fresh air? Sounds like something the government will be taxing soon.
Good thing I only smoke cigars on special occasions.
>>73173133
Then why are they raising the retirement age to 70?
Is there any proof these texts and images are actually working? I'm disgusted by smoking but I'm very doubtful those disclaimers even work. In NL they're going to add pics of yellow limbs on the packs soon, because "you will die a slow and painful death" apparently wasn't scaring them off enough.
>>73169192
>The government makes more than they spend on smokers already, you communist faggots.
Drug addicts need to be punished as the weak scum they are. Crucify the degenerates. Nothing is more pointless or degenerate than tobacco. Hitler would agree so take your communist line and shove up your anarchist ass you hippie faggot.
All intoxicants are degenerate. Smoking even more so because you get literally nothing out of it so tax away
>>73172567
true
far more addictive, I had a hell quitting that shit.
>smoked
>boss says no moar smoke breaks... on a god damn programming job
>starts to snus
>change to non nanny workplace and move
>fucking can't stop
well managed in the end and now I'm on the tobacco jew again... Did vape for like over a year though.. actually was better
>>73170249
>tfw in poland police is constantly on a lookout for weed smokers
>tfw you've already been searched twice on the street becaus the police suspect you have weed on you
>if caught with 1/10th of a gram you can go to prison or get probation which can in turn fuck up your personal career
>90% of the time police arrests 17-18 years old to bump up their statistics
>probably only country with stricter laws related to cannabis in this part of europe is Belaruss
smoking of all sorts is degenerate
>>73173335
It scares off the kids. It makes it uncool to them - to the smarter ones at least. But for existing adult smokers, they won't care. But fuck em. In three generations, smoking will be practically non-existent. The packing will help get us there. Nothing to worry about senpai.
40 shekels.. that's actually quite a lucrative black market.
Same as here is going to happen down there I bet, except from other countries. Ordinary blue pills including even fucking cops are buying cigarettes, beer, wine and booze en masse from smugglers. Domestic and foreign.
>nice boost to "org crime"
>>73170730
>Either way alcohol will be next up on the chopping block kek once that gets taxed to smithereens.
Alcohol is already highly taxed here
I don't smoke, so this doesn't bother me.
Because I only smoke when I'm stressed.
Seriously though I usually only smoke a carton/month (for the bulk discount) unless I get coupons that let me buy more.
But don't you guys think this is going too far?
I mean isn't this taxation without repression?
Minorities tend to smoke more and they typically don't have a say in politics so this seems mean.
>tfw smoking has become so expensive I roll grass in news paper and smoke it.
>>73173494
>>if caught with 1/10th of a gram you can go to prison or get probation which can in turn fuck up your personal career
Had no idea Poland was so hardcore. I have great respect for Poland. I'm sick of the degenerates I see everyday in Toronto. Fucking scumbags drunk and high and panhandling. Warsaw must be lovely in comparison.
>>73168539
Most annoying thing is neighbours smoking when hanging out my washing
Total cunts!
>>73168047
>citation needed
smoke, not vapour.
>>73168539
I see you rustled a few lungs there pekka
>>73173692
As far as the government is concerned they say that this tax is a good thing for low income smokers. They say low income smokers will just quit due to the price. However the bikies are running chop chop and cornering 20% of the tobacco market, low income earners generally have better access to chop chop. Well as long as the government can fill holes in the budget who cares if the bikies can buy a few more guns or pill presses right?
Australia, not even once.
>>73174205
there you go, my source for it beeing cancerous:
http://oehha.ca.gov/prop65/hazard_ident/pdf_zip/FinalMJsmokeHID.pdf
>tfw 2$ for pack (for export only)
>tfw I have money to buy and smoke as much as I want
>tfw on last physical exam still had perfect lung capacity
stay mad faggots
>>73173335
None whatsoever. They jacked the prices up by 2 bucks a pack at the same time they introduced the plain packets and claimed the reduction was solely down to the packet change.
The old labor health minister Roxon was mentally unsound when she brought those laws in.
>>73172663
>Our wages are fucking shit, even if you earn 80k a year or more.
Mate it's worse if you earn over 80k, guess who they rob blind to fund this circus?
Cunts are starting to make NZ look like an attractive place to live
>>73167456
meh, the queen has to get her neetbux somehow.
that's what you cucks get for keeping the bong flag on top of your flag.
>>73174583
>stay mad
Mad because we can't have yellow teeth and stink like hell like you? OK.
>>73167456
Smoking is a disgusting habit. I quit over a year ago and the amount of money I've saved is amazing. Bought me a new pistol the first 6 months of not smoking. Also food tastes better, I can exercise a lot harder, and I don't get winded walking fast down the street.
Smoking is the brown jew.
>>73174778
>yellow teath
try again, you should use toothbrush from time to time, it's good for you
>started smoking like a chimney soon as I turned 18 and had my own income
>hoped to god I'd die by 25 from cancer so my relatives wouldn't have to deal with me (actually) committing suicide and just lung cancer like a normal fuckwit
>3 years later I come to terms with how retarded this is but the 20/day is the only thing that kills the stress
>moved out and now literally can't afford this retarded habit
Jesus I'm a fuckup, I really hope I don't become one of those assholes who begs every person I seeing smoking for a dart.
>>73167456
Tobacco products are only expensive because the government taxes the shit out of them.
>>73167456
Good, degenerates on suicide watch
>>73169915
If the race war really hits, i can imagine a lot more of us are going to take up smoking while at war
>>73174734
Oh trust me I know. You know i spent years moving up the wage ladder and they just take so fucking much! They're taking more than most people earn in a year just in income tax. We shouldn't even need private health insurance the way these cunts fleece us.
>>73175277
it's 2016
we'll be vaping
faggots gonna be asking other fags to use their charging port
>>73175327
>We shouldn't even need private health insurance the way these cunts fleece us.
Paying a fucking fortune to medicare, yet even with a pregnant wife and now a newborn child I don't think we've come close to costing what I've paid into that shit for the year
At least I got some use out of health insurance when my son was born
But fuck, pay a fortune in tax over most of the last decade and I've gotten fuck-all back. Makes me sick when I think about how hard my country fucks me senpai
>>73173789
you can always quit
>>73175706
nah I'll just start buying cigarette smuggled from russia
The're cheap
>>73175072
Replace your fix with something else man, something physical like working out
>>73175651
It's not there to help you. Head to a centrelink office one day and you will see who your money is going too.
>>73172249
have you even been to aus, m8? that shit has been subcontracted for eons
>>73176075
ffs that name triggers me
We've been dealing with their incompetence lately to get my wife's paid parental leave claim sorted
Honestly I don't know how NEETs deal with it, I'd fucking snap after the first appointment
>>73177368
Why do you think so many of us pretend to be disabled?
>>73177547
I'd fake tourettes so I could tell them how I really feel
I have a chink shop round the corner that get cheap shitty import durries. Quite ridiculous though, a 50g pouch will be like 80 bucks..
>>73167456
>Degenerate or not smoking is not something the government should be simply taxing out of existence.
Why not?
It's not good for you, it's good for the government.
If you want to kill yourself and depend on the national health system to save you, pay for it.
>>73167456
I remember living in Australia. Every time I saw that image on a pack of smokes I thought it was a penis ejaculating at first glance. Every time.
>>73168539
I don't care about the smoking, I hate the fact that it's okay to litter cigarette butts everywhere. Should put a deposit on cigarette butts, bums will go clean those up everywhere.
>>73168142
Yes. There are too many variables, thus, a free market where healthcare is privatized will create an incentive for people to be healthy so they pay less
>>73177837
Smokers already do pay for it and then extra. Not to mention the fact that they will probably die a lot earlier, further saving more money by not caring for useless elderly people.
>>73177932
How about if I made a biodegradable filter in exchange for lowering the price, tax rate and removing the plain packaging shit?
>>73167456
My dad now has a hole in his throat and his voice box has been removed.
He can only drink in small quantities. No solid foods, he can't handle alcohol anymore and he can't speak or do any exercise beyond walking.
To anybody in this thread, please stop smoking now. It's not worth the risk.
It makes me feel sick that I can't ever hear him say ,"I love you, son.", ever again.
>>73168047
Have you ever cleaned out a bowl? Do you see how much shit is in there retard?
>>73178166
>Authorised by the Australian Government, Canberra
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>>73167456
>Why don't we tax alcohol? It is a luxury after all
Reminder that this man is the cancer that created the modern world we currently live in.
>>73178286
haha, made me kek
>>73167456
>smoking is not something the government should be simply taxing out of existence.
it's not, tobacco is easy to grow anywhere and you can learn to cure it and save a ton of money and much less risk of cancer, but you're too stupid and lazy to do those simple things that would save the nation a lot of money and effort apparently, tobacco has a monopoly so the only group capable of addressing this is the citizenry
>>73179060
ts illegal to grow your own
>>73172222
2222
>>73168142
>fat people be obligated to pay twice as much for food as people who are fit?
yes, we need a tariff on high fructose products, cheap sweeteners are killing America, any high risk food category should be taxed, dump the farm subsidies that make these products cheap, people are too stupid to not fall prey to their instincts regarding food, we have to step in and force them to maintain the investment the state has made in them, or remove all public education, public medicine, emergency room care now gets a fucking bandaid slapped on your bullet hole and if you have pain they'll give you a hot dose of pain killer, enough to be terminal so long as you request a second dose against doctors orders, you sign a waiver when you do this, you take extra pain killer and you die and then burn your corpse and sell your fillings
life should be cherished, if these people can't do that I don't mind if they check out early
>>73179200
>ts illegal to grow your own
no it isn't, not here anyway, you can grow your own you just can't sell it, you could also combine skills have a pooled labor, as long as no money changes hands you are legal, thats America though, we don't fuck around when it comes to guns, drugs and empire
>>73168209
I talked do the guy who runs a store and he says he only makes like 50 cents off each packet sold. So the government is making a killing after manufacturer and shipping costs.
Helicopters or something flying overhead around Sydney harbour atm anyone know what it's all about?
