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Why do former Eastern Bloc countries tend to be more redpilled
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Poland, Hungary, Romania, Russia, East Germany, the list goes on...
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>>73077394
That's a Finnish soldier...
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>>73077394
Because they know what socialism is. And they don't want any of it.
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>>73077747
Socialism is the best, we just had the worse kind, the one made by the jews.
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>>73077394
Because they have more slavic blood, including eastern Germans. And Hungary is just Hungary.
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>>73077394
They're in a different part of the cycle:
>Hard times make hard people
>Hard people make soft times
>Soft times make soft people
>Soft people make hard times
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>>73077394
Any country that does not have welfare is redpilled mfucker. That includes the US.
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>>73077747
This sums it up
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>>73077394
Socialist countries were very similar to Nazi Germany, there was no tolerance for individualism on the scale of western countries. Fortunately for you I found this pic to illustrate what I mean.
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>>73077394
What do you mean by redpilled? You mean the high abortion and divorce rates?

If you're talking about political correctness it has to do with the fact that people don't feel obligated to hold to any standards or values, because of the cynicism and social darwinism of the communist systems

This anti-migrant stance isn't about defending any values. You honestly think that the Czech Republic wants to defend christian Europe? Or Hungary, where nobody goes to church?

You think those countries are capable of creating any valuable culture? Eastern Europeans are as nihilistic, as cynical, as demoralized, as decadent as western, only they are also demoralized in the public space, not only in private (meaning they accept corruption etc.)

The only shining star on this sky is Poland, which retained positive values and is not fully corrupt by cynicism
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>>73077394
>Why do former Eastern Bloc countries tend to be more redpilled and nationalistic?

No American hegemony.
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>>73078832
Mandatory training, mandatory community service, mandatory uniforms and it was forbidden to wear makeup, long hair for boys, it was brainwashing 101, but I love this kind of brainwashing, it made a strong nation, if it wasn't all the commie shit and the USSR shit, everything would've been better.
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>>73077394

They arent. They are just dumber.
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>>73079034
0/10
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>>73077394
1 - we didn't have the may 1968 revolution and the new left marching throughout the institutions.
2 - we are (relatively) poor after communism and don't feel like sharing with foreigners
3 - There is a backlash against communism and everything it stood for after it collapsed, so nationalists and patriots are celebrated as anti-totalitarian freedom fighters.
4 We travelled to the west and lived in the poorer neighbourhoods after entering EU, horror stories about niggers/muslims are common around here.
5 we have a massive collective victim complex after communism so the guilt mentaity of the west is completey alien here
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>>73080680
This is not a bait, this is a realistic analysis
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>>73081625
>a realistic analysis
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>>73077394
Former DDR agents have infiltrated our government and media, instead of being prosecuted. It was a catastrophic mistake to exchange the DDR Mark for the Deutschmark 1:1 back in the 90s. That put those leftists on steroids. Never happened in other former sovjet satellite states btw.
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>>73077394
Because the Eastern bloc was nationalistic and xenophobic to begin with. The Warsaw Pact, for all its flaws, was a very different animal from Berniefags and Tumblr.
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>>73077394
Because we've seen left. Never again.
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also another question
why were there so many muslim countries in the ussr?
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>>73077394
Because us Eastern Euros know the value of our country and culture. Under the soviet union we had deportations and the Russian language and culture shilled hard. Any sort of individualism of being an Estonian was looked down upon as well as all other soviet countries. Moving to now in 2016, where cultural marxism is destroying the USA and other Western European countries, the East understands what is means to have your own distinct people, language and cultural traditions. I don't want to see muslims and africans walking around my old town or using our welfare...and we want to keep it our way.
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>>73078094
/thread
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They aren't.
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>>73077394
Liberalism is more intelligent in its decontruction since it allows for decadence.
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>>73077394
Because the iron curtain kept postmodernism away. We only have a short while, maybe a couple of decades before it catches up with us.
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>>73077394
Post Communist, everything that is bad in communism is taken to the extreme.
>Nationalism
>Religion
>etc
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because state socialism created the perfect human.
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>>73077394
Because they were isolated from the multi-culti propaganda that began to spread in the west in the 80s. Many of them are also worse off with their authoritarian governments gone.
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>>73077394
You either acknowledge race, country, culture or you pray to kike on stick religion to create interracial heaven with no borders, no culture, no country and no distinguishable race.
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>>73084312
Are you insane?
Soviets pushed multiculti propaganda from day1 including the campaign against great russian chauvinism.
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>>73078094
This is correct 100%
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>>73077853
sure thing, north korea is doing wonderful without jewish ideas like not taking people's wealth away
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>>73084744
>taking people's wealth away
What wealth did they took away if they isolated for whole generation? They can't take anything away, they can only create it.
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>>73078094
This.
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>>73084647
Multicultural propaganda is good, what's bad is interracial propaganda.
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>>73085378
>what's bad is interracial propagandaIì

I'm pretty sure they had that too.
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>>73084944
north koreans working abroad have to give to the state 70% of their earnings
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>>73077394
Because they already tried far left godless governments and realized how awful they are.
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>>73078094
No.

Soft people didn't cause this. Psychopaths did. The same people that caused the war in the first place.

It is not in human nature for us to destroy each other, that is the calling card of the charismatic psychopath making decisions with other people's lives like checkers pieces.
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>>73084647
Not really. Soviets acknowledged cultures as being products of a certain level of development of the productive base but their ultimate goal was to make all these cultures socialist (for example the nomadic tribes), which meant modernized through urbanization and industrialization and russified through language. Remember the soviet slogan socialist in content but nationalist in form. Which means there was only one culture: socialist culture. Liberal multiculturalism is a different beast: it puts the culture on a piedestal as if it is something different from political life: thus we can have multiculturalism and at the same time a cohesive politics. Wrong.
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>>73078094
This, except it's not really a cycle in this case. Due to poor economy, constant wars and the general shitiness of everyday life it's hard times 24/7 in eastern Europe. Also, we've seen communism at work.
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>>73077394
Because they've seen marxism, they've seen a lot of shit.
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>>73085607
I guess Stalin didn't re-locate people and Gulag didn't happen. What do you think Crimea is? They were purified by Stalin from other races. We had in Yugoslavia re-location of races too. To understand different races and prevent interracial mixing you first need to define different cultures. Wasn't Hitler mad about Jewish race? Hitler obviously distinguishes between Germanic race, Slavs, Jews, Anglo...etc., while Merkel, kings & capitalists don't distinguish between races or cultures, they mix everything up, since this way they can join them all under religion and have easier trades, since there are no borders, no cultures.
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>>73079623
>>73078832
I miss how everyone called each other 'дpyгap' regardless of their job/position, and how funny it was when they replaced it with 'гocпoдин' afterwards.
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>>73085723
>North Koreans
>abroad
pick one

Even if they give money, that doesn't means anything at all. What matters is if they have an apartment & food.
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>>73077747
...funny thing is, those who are most nationalistic here tend to be the ones who say "things were better during communism"
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>>73086234
there are some working on a construction site in Warsaw
>they have an apartment & food.
yeah, shitty commieblocks and having to eat grass to survive, great idea
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>>73086234
>North Koreans
>abroad
>pick one
One of NK's largest exports is slave labour.
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>>73086421
>>73086391
I am pretty sure it was Croatian/Polish/Ukraine prostitutes i seen at gypsy town and in Austria, sometimes they also sell to USA. That's nowhere near North Korea. You are right, they are free, they suck a lot of penis and have money in banks, so they will never own an apartment like those shiny Commie blocks.
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>>73077394
Let me put it this way: We have suffered decades and barely got out 26 years ago from what you westerners are trying so hard to implement. The consequences are still felt today on many levels. What you are trying to sugar coat as tolerant, acceptant, diverse and so on and so forth, killed hundreds if not thousands of us during 89.

Our parents crawled outside of Hell and at the top we are met by westerners who are going down with a smile on their faces.

We took the redpill, and we took it the hard way. Learn from the history and see past the veil of "tolerance, multiculturalism and diversity" and you will see a life that would make you question your very own existence.
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>>73086764
nice post
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>>73086711
your butthurt can't negate NK being shit, pinko
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>>73086764
>tolerance, multiculturalism and diversity
Soviets forced you to be communist. Everyone was to follow the communist doctrine, but they never forced multiculturalism or diversity. Different ethnic and cultural groups had their regions, it was just that Russia was the leading nation (since USSR was formed on Russian empire's corpse) therefore Russian language was to be the prominent one (much like English today) with Russians being at the top of the hierarchy.
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>>73087445
the russian empire was a joke m'lad
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Haplogroup R1a
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>>73086764
Honestly I don't think our situations are comparable to such an extent
I don't doubt USSR was shittier than shit, but ultimately, when it fell, Budapest was still populated by Hungarians, Bucarest was still populated by Romanians and Warsaw was still populated by Poles
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>>73087339
I am pretty sure those Polish prostitutes scream a lot of Jesus when they get fucked by all those gypsies and fat Austrian grandpas, then after that they go to church to pray for a shiny prince on money horse from USA. I wonder how stupid you have to be to blame North Korea when you getting fucked apart by westerners.
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>>73077394
Because socialism suppresses and slaughters native Europeans.
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>>73087445
>>73087648

I know, but today these are the tools that are used to create the same society but with a twist - the inability to revolt as the East did back in 89. Because differences exist in the West as compared to the East. Those differences may prevent this scenario and thus another approach is needed. And how can you achieve this? Destroy homogeneity on an ethnic level, on a family level etc etc. Divide and conquer at its best. Couple this with other anti-white agendas...and, well, you get the picture.
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>>73078094
Such a simple phrase for the simple minds. I supposed you think psychopathy is an imaginary thing.
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>>73077394
Because after world war 2 until the end of the cold war it was only advanced west/northern EU nations who had a lot of contact with the US, a lot of things we experienced, music, television, etc came from America.
So hence there is a lot more degeneracy here now.
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>>73087560
I don't care if Russian empire was a joke or not. The fact remains that USSR was formed on its corpse, with Russian being obviously the majority. Therefore it made only sense that Russian was compulsory and ethnic Russian were at the top of the hierarchy in the soviet empire and its puppets (excluding characters like Stalin, who's USSR was completely different).
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>>73087733
I wonder how stupid you have to be to defend this idiotic system
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>>73086288

Sometimes pride in your country and ethnic preservation is more important compared to everyone having an air conditioner in your house and genetically modified food products.

I am just saying... I have no love for Communism AT ALL. Complete shit.
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>Romania
We even hate people from a different region of our country
Some of us want Moldova (Moldavia?) to be united with our country though which would make sense because we have the same culture and speak the same language
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>>73087816
Honestly, what good did revolt bring to the "East" in 89? Geniunely curious.
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>>73087648
that's because the Soviet Union was separated through strictly controlled borders no one was allowed to cross without special permission (mostly since the further East it went, the more of a shithole it became, with westernmost Warsaw Pact countries being the most decent ones to live in, then the other European bloc countries, then the Baltics, then the Western Russia, Ukraine and Belarus, then Siberia and rounding up the Central Asian states that were the worst shitholes imaginable).
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>>73087892
Oy vey religious tard, Tito was popular and walked on streets without guards all the time. Lets see your idiotic politicians trying that after they seized government and forced people to American obedience and Jesus. Too bad you destroyed yourself and sold it all to Americans, yet you blame Communism, when you left Communism with 100% ownership over all of industry, then you sold it all. Go cry more to Jesus.
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>>73088212
*East Germany being the most prosperous and successful of all
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>>73087931
probably have the same town rapist as well.
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>>73088272
Tito was a jew himself fucktard
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>>73087991
It opened the door to freedom. A path you are walking since the end of WW II. The path is full of detours which, if taken, get you back into the cell. This is what is happening in the west today. They've taken a detour of multiculturalism, diversity and other destructive lies like this.

We exited too soon to be affected by such detours and thus, we refuse our destruction that is happening willingly in the west. But this has its tools, we are beaten (lack of trust between us),, bruised (corruption rampart) and full of wounds (there are still communist politicians that have too much power and they steal everything from us).

It is an analogy, but I hope you get my point.
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>>73088370
How retarded are you? Religion was banned in politics, so were religious people. The first thing they done when Socialism ended is to ask for religious money and create Christian political parties.
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>>73077394
>Redpilled
it was suppository, actually.
And I think that explains a lot.
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because muh red-pilled philosophy leads to societies run by ideology, identity politics, paranoia, laziness, and victim-blaming rather than genuine attempts at making the country better

you'd expect you faggots would get the hint when only eastern europe and the middle east share your values
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>>73088544
Tito was the son of a rich Polish Jew, clearly you haven't done your research on it or just chose to deny it.
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>>73087991
Western goods and freedom to travel, no more foreign power ruling over them (at least not in an completely obvious way). Society melted away thought with individualism and cynicism when consumerism took hold. All the young want to fuck off to a better place and hardly any care for the rotting shell of their country, which was sold off to free market which it was never prepared for while those who sold it continued to abuse the remnants through corruption. Now comes the last process, completely destroying the population with colored hordes who are dumb as pigs.

Communism was still shit though. Their leadership was full of fat fucks who privately owned the entire country, but these fat fucks didn't try to eradicate their own people and replace them with aliens. They also at least tried to stimulate some pride in the people of the country.
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>>73088802
Sure thing, and Stalin was a Jew that killed Jew and Hitler was a zionist...etc. You really believe every shit capitalist sell to you, yet you don't see 2 fingers before you who's buttfucking you and your country and who owns your banks and now buys your islands.
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>>73088735
eastern europe and the middle east people will still be there in a hundred years
better disappear as long as you keep your moral high ground?
are you a mehmet or are you legitimately that dumb?
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>>73088980
>You really believe every shit capitalist sell to you
I don't think I've been told about this on the news, or at school, or by a capitalist himself. I did my research and I found it.

And by that statement alone you lost me
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Its like a vaccination.

Back then propaganda was pretty primitive. Most people knew that government lied, it was pretty obvious.

And when communism fallen, people continue to look at liberal propaganda with criticism.

Poland is special case. All above can be applied to Poland, but there is more. For most of time during last ~200 years, Poland didn't existed as independent political entity. Poles existed as nation, but were governed by others - Germans, Russians, Commies. That government were not benevolent and oppressed people both economically and culturally, trying to eradicate polish culture and identity.

Thanks to that, poles dont associate with their goverment, even if its officially "polish". Its never "we". Its always "they".

And they lie.
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>>73077394
They weren't shamed by written history.
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>>73077394
russian influence. you might be surprised but the warsaw pact was very nationalist. russia needs independent or russian alligned buffer states that will not work with the west along the giant flat corridor that leads directly to moscow.
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>>73088958

Man, you do know your shit. That first paragraph is spot on what has been happening in Romania for the past 26 years.

Honestly, after the '89 Revolutions, most of the ex-soviet countries were set up on a path that ultimately led to destruction. As my fellow Romanian poster said, we have just started experiencing the kind of freedom the West does, the kind of freedom that slowly corrupts the cores and values of the country and its populace.

After 26 years of capitalism and democracy, we are just living in an illusion that we are free. Our politicians are corrupt, they are elected by the masses (usually stupid, uneducated people) and our whole industry has been destroyed by privatization back in the '90, when most of the rich people got even richer - oligarchs.

As far as I'm concerned, if nothing significant will happen in the next 10 years (significant as in a war, a global political meltdown, a global catastrophe), Europe will be completely changed.

And change is not that good sometimes.
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>>73089145
I understand you religious morons don't have the brain capacity to connect 2 things together. But let me give you some clues: there was cold war between Jew run Anglo country and Socialistic country who aren't run by Jews. There are nowhere more Jews than in capitalistic countries, yet you claim Jews were fighting against Jews and that Jews killed Jews. Socialistic countries don't allow foreign investment so Jews can't be very happy expanding their business. If you know anything at all you would realize that there was equal salary during Socialism, so we had no billionaires and which means no powerful Jewish lords.
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>>73089657
>religious morons
why the fuck do you keep saying this?
does it make you feel better or what?
go fuck yourself

No jews were killed, no one fought with jews, they fought in the background (at least notable ones)

>we had no billionaires
and this is exactly why socialism has always failed and will fail
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>>73089657
It's really sad that people throw Yugoslavia together with eastern european state socialism. It was actually a market socialist, self-governing socialist federation whose citizens were allowed to travel the globe. And Greece would have been better off if Tito's plan for Greece went through.
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>>73089952
Are you trolling now?
That guy in your picture looks like a Jew.
Communists literally ran economy of country, while capitalistic leaders are puppets of market. The only ones who can't run economy are non-Socialists, since Obama literally doesn't runs economy, he is a public figure, like every EU politician. 100% private ownership literally means country does stuff 0%. If you have 100 government ownership then country obviously does 100% of stuff. You should ask yourself why you even voting at this point, since your Greek economy is run by foreigners.
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>>73090159
>tito's plan for greece
get out right now
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>>73090159
Talking is not doing. Voting is not creating. Identifying as Nazi doesn't means you are a Nazi.
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>>73090631
fuck I feel sorry for Greece. Your country is paying the highest and cruelest price because of financial capitalism. Good luck to you.
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>>73090518
>EVERYONE I DONT LIKE IS A JEW!
Stop, please

Do you have any sources to back up these statements or what?
And no, I won't accept any links from www.thetruththathaasntbeentoldthejewsruntheworldholyfuck.com

Sure, jews get major representation in politics but this tinfoil crap is way out of hand.

>>73090947
No, you're wrong. Socialism, yes, that's right.
SOCIALISM has ruined us. Every retarded communist here has ruined us, they are a fucking cancer to this country that don't work. Even the members of communist/socialist/left wing parties here are lazy pricks that won't do anything.
They, with their shitty ideology have completely ruined this country. Fuck off
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>>73079034
Czech republic wants to defend Czech republic, not christian europe. If you want to play christian while you kick the shit out of foreign people while kiddy fiddling priest cheers on you, you are the one who is for corrupt values.
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>>73091153
EU is literally telling us what laws we should pass, UN is literally telling us we should rescue boats, NATO is literally telling us what weapons to buy and where to fight. And in case of Greece they are also telling you how to reduce debt, what you should do, step by step, this is also where your politicians don't agree, since some thing EU literally wants to ruin you. Tito, Mao, Hitler didn't get told what to do, they ran their own economy, with purely national born people, nobody could simply steal and escape to Monaco or Switzerland, they had to do their job or be replaced. Now what quality control does capitalism have? None, politicians are immune and can escape, can hide money, can do nothing at all. You are voting for nothing, all make-believe. There is an order of things based on rich people of this world, your politicians can do very very little to change that, only during Socialism you decide on your own.
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>>73080640
Says a Trudeau voter.
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>>73091683
I never said that I liked organizations like the EU, UN or NATO
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>>73091683
And guess what, the socialist and commie parties keep winning, the rich do want socialism in my country to ruin it then, If what you're saying is correct
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>>73077394
>Communism is cowpox
>Social Justice is smallpox

/thread
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>>73091887
You either create Socialism or you don't. So far you are in EU and listening to ECB and 100 other organizations. The problem with you is that your political parties can't do nothing on their own, since they can't battle NATO, they are waiting for you, common folk to rise. Leaders are only as good as their people.
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>>73087924
Say hi to the State Police kicking your door, dragging you out, executing you in the backyard and leaving, for no reason whatsoever.
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