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Why are people increasingly choosing to remain manchildren and
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Why are people increasingly choosing to remain manchildren and avoid work and dating?
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because everyone will die someday and none of it will matter
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>>73031643
>>73031806

Cards are stacked.

All we can do is wait for the war.
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>>73031806
>because everyone will die someday and none of it will matter

How and why has this mentality gained such popularity?
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Why are people decreasingly choosing to remain wakecucks and paying 50% of their earnings to some whore who has your kid 5 days a week and the media constantly calls you a rapist for being a straight male?
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>>73031904
Because the truth hurts.
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>>73031947
The truth has always hurt. Why now?
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no incentives
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>>73031904
schlomo
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>>73031643
because otherwise this is our future.
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>work for scraps, in most western countries, not even able to sustain yourself in a small apartment
>waste time and money, hoping to find that 1% in our degenerative society

I don't game myself, stopped years ago, but I can definitely see why many people game as they get older and become "manchildren".

Whether it's a means to escape from reality, or a means of running away, current society does not offer much for the average person.
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>>73032017
Why not? Acknowledge the inevitable negatives and make the most of what you've got.
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>>73031643
Because there's less and less reward from doing all that shit as time goes on.
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>>73031643

Women have all the good jobs. Rather die poor and alone than work for or marry a nut-crushing feminist.
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>>73032092
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>>73031643
>Avoid work and dating...
Don't you mean work and slavery?

Gee, why would men avoid two negative things?
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>>73031643
Because we had terrible parents.
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>>73031643
Work and dating suck. Men only did it for thousands of years because it was required to eat and there was nothing else to do.
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Because playing video games is fun, unlike raising the sons of single mothers?
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I can't even get a job with an engineering degree and all the attractive women are already paired up since univversity
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>>73032479

And there was rewards then.
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>>73031643
Men finally realized how easy women have it, despite how much they bitch and moan about how they "have no rights" (last time I checked they have every right a man has, plus more concerning marriage/childbearing/drafts).

If women want equal rights it means men get to be adult children now, too. Playing video games and hanging with friends all day sure beats paying a woman for everything she wants.
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>>73032479 >>73032518
/thread
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>>73031643
apathy, nihilism. society is falling in on itself so many are just giving up rather than try to fix it
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>work

wageslavery

>dating

80% of women aren't worth it
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>>73032488
>>73032429
>>73032092
>>73031935

If you were worth anything, she wouldn't cheat.
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>>73032488
warband > listening to some bitch and her socialist beliefs
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>>73031904
>>73031947
Nietzsche saw it coming
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>>73032611
>implying a good man stops women from cheating
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>>73031643
I still don't get why video games are seen as childish at this point. What makes it so different than any other entertainment medium?
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>>73032632
I'm waiting for mordhau and KC:D myself, bannerlord didn't look that promising
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>>73032611
>>73032655
>implying anything at all stops women from cheating
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>>73031643
I've had one relationship, put a ton of effort into it and got burned hard in the end. Watching my sister disrespect her boyfriend, my aunt going behind her partner's back to have a fling with a coworker, my own mother trying to initiate a divorce because she "feels she's changed" just cements my view that it simply isn't worth the investment.
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>>73031643
Yes OP, what a bunch of fucking autist
Where have all the REAL men gone to please REAL women?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY1H1rZL53I
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>>73032611
>victim blaming
Triggered
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>>73032611
I'm sorry, I'm just not up to par then I guess.
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>>73032729
It's still relatively new, so people are not willing to take it seriously as a medium.
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>>73032879

The only victim is any woman you could swindle into being near you for five seconds.
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>>73032729
This.
Getting drunk and playing golf is much more childish that vidya but is seen a sophisticated hobby
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>>73031643
>dating
I rather pet a cobra
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>>73032820

Sadly, this was where I was ultimately going with it...
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>>73031643
Because every couple or "playboy" I know live a much more stressful life than me. Children are ungrateful assholes. Why should I spend my money and time for these?
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grow up, bro
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>>73032967
>snekposter
You're alright
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>>73031643
because people are increasingly choosing to be womanchildren who just wanna be snarky and not clean anything
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>>73031643
>Grow Up, Bro

This was so obviously written by an assblasted woman.
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>>73031643
I've got the work part down, but how do I start dating? Lately I've been living the NEET life after work.
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>>73032729
Television was seen as bad even in the 80s.

New mediums will always be poo-pooed until the generations that are alienated by them die out/are no longer in command.

Video games are now a bigger industry than Hollywood and feminists feel like it's the second last bastion to take over in the West. Anyone claiming they're childish are grandparents or were raised by grandparents.
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>>73031643
Why do people keep making non political threads on /pol
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>>73031643
How many women want to live with their inlaws?

This is not part of our present culture.
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Waiting for war senpai. Our society is sick and displaying the symptoms of Rome's falling.
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>>73031643
We don't need anymore humans in this world. The world wouldn't be the way it is right now if we had a considerably lower population count.
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>>73032729
It's always rich to me seeing girls put down guys who play video games when they spend all their free time watching netflix or browsing facebook, twitter and instagram.
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>>73033022
Because if you don't have children your culture, language and lineage will die out.
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>>73031904
The cancer known as Atheism
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>>73033348

and I should care, why?
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>>73033025
RIP Kasparov

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1820152
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>>73031643
Personally I'm dying to go back to school, I want to learn everything. I've got extreme depression though, and doing small things that I know intellectually aren't a big deal like getting out of bed, making food and taking pills is SUCH a chore that I've slept for a days straight from withdrawal on a few occasions. I'm seeing my psychiatrist in a few days and we were talking about stimulants or possibly electroshock therapy. I'm desperate to start living again but I'd be more likely to die from wasting away to nothing in an underpass rather than active suicide.
Feels pretty bad man
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>>73032092
>1 point just now
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>>73031643
>work and dating?
I have a disability
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>>73033348
Isn't that a problem for after you're dead?
ROI on children is SHIT
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>>73033148
Just go outside and try to fuck other women the best you can.
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>>73033398

I'm an atheist, have been my entire life. I always thought God and the Bible were nothing more than fables and everyone else saw them as fables with moral messages at the end of each story, like an episode of Animaniacs.

Then when I started realizing people legitimately believed in God, I got into the angsty, "I'm so much smarter than them, how can they be so stupid?" phase.

But now I'm more of a, "God doesn't exist, but we unfortunately need religion because man in general is weak willed. Without the belief of a greater power, people in general believe nothing matters. Even though God is a lie, it's a lie we need to keep the animal inside in check so we don't cave to degenerate urges such as rape, theft, and murder."

It's unfortunate that people will still rape, steal, and murder in the name of their prophet-of-choice, though.

Surely there's a better solution than religion, but religion seems to be the most effective means to civilize a population to date.
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>>73033348

I'm still not hearing a reason that I, personally, should care.
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>>73033525
>Dying to go back to school

Enjoy being falsely accused of rape and racism before being jailed on the accusation alone.

Also that $30k of debt for a degree that won't get you anywhere, as most worthwhile fields are now refusing to hire younger candidates due to the risks involved with modern youth. STEM fields would rather hire someone with 6+ years of experience, grunt work like plumbing and roofing goes to family members who can't get jobs anywhere else.
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>>73033348
Women kill a million babies each year in abortion shops. Waste their most fertile breeding years in secondary school, college, and "careers".

> that is all men's fault
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>>73031643
You imply that it's a choice. For anyone that's fallen into this particular pit, it's practically forced on you. We aren't playing games because we don't want society, we're playing games because society doesn't want us.
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>>73031643
>commit yourself to being a fulltime worker for the next 50 years becoming a cog in the machine at the expense of your soul
>put up with a modern woman's childish bullshit
>cast away your life and legally bind yourself to her
>make children that will become the primary focus of your life, binding you financially and physically making you unable to travel or experience the world for the next 20some years.
>get bereft of your wealth if wife becomes unhappy with you and wants divorce
>don't play video games and watch anime while receiving serums every 5 years to repair your genetic structure and fluctuate your body between its 20-25 year old states for centuries, experiencing all life has to offer and more as space travel is refined and literal new worlds open up as possibilities.

No, you move.
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>>73034141
Also "getting the bad boy thirst in them out."

Ready to man-up and impregnate my 35 year old haggard self?
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>>73031643
I've tried to get a job other then part time at McDonlans for 3 years to no avail

Females are literally not worth my time, most of them are whores or decent ones get snatched up to quick by other people. A few won't come near a working class fellow like myself but I'm happy to keep it that way
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>>73031904
Because we know about this
https://youtu.be/uaGEjrADGPA?t=1m34s
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because she doesn't love me.

and I can't be assed to fuck women I'd never love.
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>>73034414
>He still thinks humans will be able to travel space

The best a human body will ever be able to endure is populating the solar system (Between Venus and Jupiter. Anything closer to the sun/outside of Jupiter is basically death). Anything that leaves the solar system with any hopes of survival will have to be unmanned craft.

Even cyrosleep won't be enough. You would rot and decay in stasis before your craft ever reached anything, and chances are it would just be a crater on some barren rock.

The best humans can do is try to make due with the solar system we have until wormhole technology is refined enough to be reliable, and by such a time humans won't even be humans any more.
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>>73034827
It hurts so much to know how absolutely insignificant we are.
Makes me even more vigilant to not live a life where I give up all my assets and be a wage slave to someone who doesn't care about me and fills my children with falsehoods.
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>>73031643
>manchildren
the environment enables it, theres no reason to work hard when your parents provide for you and they're okay with you being a manchild.

>avoid work
the environment enables it and theres very little reward compared to being a NEET faggot.

>dating
women divorce you and take half your shit and you cant do shit about it.
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>>73031643
Video Games are inherently libertarian, or at the very least right wing.
No matter how many lesbian disabled trannies you put in Call of Duty you're still killing people in your mind.
-Milo Yiannopoulos
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>>73031643
Because the world has gone crazy, for every person who has good options, there are 10 who have barista and waiter as options, and the alternative is open armed revolt.

We're going to get the latter, or something worse.
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>>73032934
t. tumblrina
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>>73031904

"It is better to dwell in the corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman and in a wide house." Proverbs 25:24

"It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman." Proverbs 21:19

"Therefore I hated life; because the work that is wrought under the sun is grievous unto me: for all is vanity and vexation of spirit." Ecclesiastes 2:17
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>>73032610
90%
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>>73033525
I actually was able to manage my depression with PCP, believe it or not.
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>>73033298
>Have multiple hobbies
>"Anon, quit wasting your time reading all day"
>"Anon, quit wasting your time working on those models"
>"Anon, quit wasting your time watching those movies"
>"Anon, quit wasting your time working on that car"
>"Anon, when you are going to stop messing around and get on with your life!"

>You can stop playing around on facebook and do something else today

>"FUCK YOU ANON, YOU JUST WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU DON'T SOCIALIZE LIKE ME! YOU DON' KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS! MY FRIENDS ARE FUCKING THERE FOR ME"

Then my sister wonders why I won't talk to her anymore.
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>>73033801
You can go to jail for that these days.
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>>73031643
Because feminism ruined women and by extension marriage.
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>>73031643
Because having a family is a shit deal in modern society in comparison to the freedom you have if you remain single.
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The future just seems so hopeless. It makes me want to retreat and isolate myself, distracting me from actual reality. I go to work, get my job done, then just come home and stay in my apartment for days straight.
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>>73033430
Worthless cancer
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I have a job and tried dating and the latter didn't work out well at all. It's made me depressed actually.
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>>73031643
I would date if there were women worth dating, I would work for that woman if she existed.
She does not, so fuck it, video games and 4chan it is.
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>>73031643
>avoid work
More like getting terrible degrees, going into debt, and then wondering where the jobs are.
>avoid dating
Why date when you can just have casual sex so easily these days? I'm guessing it has to do with the awful culture being pushed these days, and those wanting a good woman having to deal with a ton of bad ones and just giving up.
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>>73031643
I'll be honest. I am kind of doing in, but living on my own, but I rarely play games now a days due to always browsing /pol/. However, the reason people do this is because they are cynical about the world. That this is the only thing that makes them happy. Why waste time at something you hate. Why go to college and get a degree that is worthless anywhere. Why date when she'll just cheat on you or just abandon you after a couple months. The world is hostile to young men now a days. So why participate in the system that its hostile towards.
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>>73031643
Men used be happy to spend the best years of their lives slaving to provide for a woman and their children because they were respected for it.

That quit happening, men lost interest.

There's your pill anon.
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>>73036160
God, I fucking hate that when people get mouthy about you living your own life. It used to depress me when I would be hassled about making different choices, now it's just infuriating.
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Society and "fitting in" is just subjecting yourself to being dominated by the will of others who allow themselves to be dominated in the same ways. Who people are, and what they become, is loosely based on parental guidance, what they see on tv, or by influence of people they're surrounded by who have just as little idea of what life is or should be. People don't have opinions, they align themselves with propoganda, and think less of you for trying to think for yourself or develop an accurate world view. People think it's helpless to fight against societal norm, yet everyone at times will disagree with society. Modern society is insanity. And women love insanity, they'll want you to go along to get along and drive you insane in the process before leaving you for someone whose insanity better lines up with theirs.
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>>73037071
And a bitter pill it is, because the mighty family unit works if, and ONLY if, women are property.
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>>73032729
They are mostly targeted at children, like most Nintendo games. Some like Call of Duty get more respect, but still you can't please everyone. Others like Pac-Man resonate with people so they're more accepted. It just depends really, I think they are becoming more accepted socially as time goes on.
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>gives females impunity to ruin a guy's life, take half his shit and abort his baby
>w-w-w-w-wah stupid manchildren man up someone has to feed muh keeds
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>>73033298
>It's always rich to me seeing girls put down guys who play video games

What they really mean is, "Dont look at that, look at me me me. Validate me! Man up and pay for my lifestyle."

This is why every time guys get a good club or group going together you get whores trying to force their way in.

Everyone wants to enjoy their lives, and the best way to do that is to stay single and free, with plenty of safe sex on the side.
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>>73037253
>And a bitter pill it is, because the mighty family unit works if, and ONLY if, women are property.
Frankly I believe the whole women as property thing is waaaay overblown. SJW blather notwithstanding I guarantee you women were not property in my Grandmothers day, and she grew up before they got the vote. Someone asked her once if any of these rough men she grew up with ever abused her or made her feel uncomfortable and I swear for a moment I thought she was going to slap the teeth right out of that girls mouth. Most ridiculous thing she ever heard. Yes women generally had a different role, and were expected to care about their menfolks feelings, but they were not property.
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>>73031904
It gained popularity because our fancy gadgets made it so much easier to distance ourselves from people
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>>73031643
the world has already said they don't want is straight white males, and they remind us every day
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>>73031806
>because everyone will die someday
>he isn't trying to become immortal
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/45947/title/First-Data-from-Anti-Aging-Gene-Therapy/
top pleb
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>>73037164
Most of all people think you can't develop character without allowing yourself to be influenced by others, even though they are influenced by others. No one dictates their own conduct, morality, or etiquette.
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>>73034414
>>don't play video games and watch anime while receiving serums every 5 years to repair your genetic structure

When those serums come out they are going to cost £50k / $70k a dose. They wont be for useless eaters.
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>>73037727
>Wanting to be immortal
Why? After a certain point, life would just be a chore.
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>>73037891
then you can kill yourself
you decide when you die

not to mention the tech upgrades in the future
full VR and shit
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>>73037891
You can always commit suicide.
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>>73036274
Never said "rape", I told you to go outside and get laid. Time to leave the /comfy/ life.
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>>73031643
you're literally asking the manchild hub this question?
good god
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>>73032092
>SocialJustice101
>1 point just now

k
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>>73031643
Videogames and drugs become an outlet for a hopeless existence... coming from a poorer background you don't have the advantages of being spoiled by a first car or having help paying for things as you work your way through college. The system is being increasingly rigged for those with that privilege as it's nearly impossible to support yourself while being a full time student which prevents people from achieving what they are actually capable of. Career jobs are increasingly harder to find without a college education and even then if you want guaranteed work you would have to enter the medical field which means 2-4 years of college and a highly competitive job market which favors those with experience. Why place that kind of stress on yourself... not to mention why add even more stress by adding other people in to your life outside of the ones that created you. It's easier to help support your immediate family any way you can by staying a part of that unit than trying to make it on your own in todays world. Living with your family, smoking weed and playing videogames while working a part time job is ultimately the best life you can live because it is stress free and a limited amount of responsibilities fall upon you. Sex is overrated, Kids are overrated, Money is overrated... GTA V is the best game ever.
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>>73031643
why do you think that?

if anyone chooses to do that they're labeled a loser
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>>73032092
this is one of the most disturbing things i've ever read

beta beyond belief
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>>73031643
> Why are people increasingly choosing to remain manchildren and avoid work and dating?

They don't.

Look, a lot of folks on the Internet are increasingly falling for the "internet is important" meme. They think that seeing hundreds of people complaining about being virgins or NEETs means something. Or that if the Internet is outraged about something, that it is actually relevant in real life. Most of the time it's not, the Internet is just a vocal minority of the world.

"The internet community" aka the people who use it for more than normie shit is very small. I'm saying like 1 or 2 million tops, worldwide.

I live in a dorm room with 3 other guys. All of them have girlfriends, two of them have a part-time job. When I see them in the room, they just watch tv shows like Flash or Vikings or some trendy new movie. Or they talk with people on facebook. Or they play some normie game like League of Legends. Or they watch Dragon Ball Super. They go outside often, spend hours talking on the phone and they talk too much. And we're all doing computer science, so they're supposed to be the "geeks".

So it's not like you said at all. The people who "avoid" dating and work today are the same people who avoided it 50 years ago. There's always a 15-20% share of the population at worst that will be losers no matter what.
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>>73031904
It's what happens when Christianity dies out
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>>73032729
Childish? No, not all of them.

A waste of precious time and man energy? Absolutely. T.V. is no better, neither is reading a fiction book. All of them make you more of a beta faggot
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>>73033525
Powerlifting/Bodybuilding + ZMA + high-dosed Vitmanin D-supplement is the ultimate long-term fix for depression.
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>>73031643
Dating isn't worth it anymore because all women sleep around now.
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>>73031904

Easy. We no longer understand the toils of hardship. We have everything handed to us.

Think of us like dogs. When unfeed it becomes wild and aggressive and will do anything to survive but when you take one in and feed it its wild instincts slowly fade and it learns to respect the hand that feeds.

We are the dogs afraid to bite that hand. We have been tamed.
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>>73031643

Why not?
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>>73031643
Because people who do things like deal drugs and generally act like retarded assholes have a considerably more rewarding childhood than anyone else, thanks to feminism, and none of us want to pick up their scraps and have to pay to be with women who used to fuck men for free who treated them like shit
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>>73039560
>having the energy to do that
i don't think you understand
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>>73039509
>reading makes you more of a beta faggot
While I won't doubt that it's beta to do nothing but indulge in fiction, it's retarded to neglect the actual motivational power that can come from great works of fiction, to say nothing of the fact that fiction presents quandaries which mirror those in our own world, and so can carry truths about our world, be they philosophical or physical. It all depends on what you read, what you take from it, and how much time you spend on it. I'd suppose if it's done right, you could apply that to other forms of media as well.
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>>73040021
if you need motivation and to find answers to modern quandaries of our own world, you're already a beta.

You'll never "ride the tiger" if you read Evola anon. It is only gonna make you wish you could.
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Is it wrong that I've given up on women? I don't even hate them, if anything I hate myself. I just gave up in high school of ever having a girl find genuine interest in me. I've always been able to pique girls' interest but my general misanthropy and lack of confidence keeps me from going past the flirting phase
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>>73038197

What better place to find an answer?
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silly OP, the problem is modern women
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>>73039509

>Not reading books
>huge faggot

pick two
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>>73031643
I work part time, study full time and shitpost in my spare time.

I chose to be manchildren because I believe my early twenties where consumed by depression.

I don't date because I have /h/ and /s/
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>>73031643
>show up
>earn low wage
>get treated like shit by fag boss
>have money stolen by Uncle Scam to give lobsters to niggers
>have money stolen by Uncle Scam to give healthcare to illegals
>work for food to go to work
>work for car to get to work
>work for clothes to wear to work
>work for entertainment to distract me after work

The question isn't why I'm not working, it's why anybody is.
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>>73040899
fwiw this is more theoretical than practical.

i work in a library, which is comfy.
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>>73032092
... He gets to fuck other women, r-right guys? It's not a-all b-bad, right?
>WAKE_ME_UP_INSIDE.png
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>>73040820
>ZMA
btw, engineering is hard as dicks, I'm pass average GPA
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>>73031643
Because they're losing deals. Men have unconsciously began checking out of society because society is increasingly hostile to men.
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>>73034346
This.
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Simple, it's just a bad investment for young men nowadays.

Why should one participate in a society they have no say in?
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>>73037592
>Frankly I believe the whole women as property thing is waaaay overblown
It is but face it we'll need some cattle prods to put those bitches back where they belong, at least for a few decades.
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>>73031643
Everything is too expensive.
Education. Houses. Good. Kids.
You need a million dollars to have a OK middle class life.why not play vidya?
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>>73032611
Kek, if you believe that is the truth across the board, you are naive as shit. Sometimes that is the case, sure, and many other times people are sociopaths who have already justified their shitty actions to themselves before they take one step in that direction.
Except now, we have neither societal standards nor law discouraging these types of actions, but many encouraging it. It's "empowering" and rewarded to be a two-faced piece of shit, and that goes for men and women in many facets of our society.
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>>73031643
jews
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>>73031643
Fucked up divorce laws, and the fact that women ride the cock carousel until they settle for you as a beta provider.

If a woman doesn't want you when you're young she doesn't deserve you when you're 30.
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>>73032152
This. It's because there's nothing to fucking gain anymore.
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>>73032092

Both trolls

....right?
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>>73033808
>his understanding of holy text can only be compared to the understanding of some fucking tv show plot

>thinks he's over his 'smarter than them phase'
>Says in the next line that religion is for stupid people

Admit you're some sort of spastic so as to avoid embarrassment, please.
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>>73040619
+1 internet for posting HH
Good day to you.
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>>73035939
95%
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>>73037592
>>73041229
You're forgetting that property is also something cherished and carefully maintained/protected. A luxury car, the computer I built that I'm using right now. Objectification/dehumanization is something women strongly desire. Women often don't like thinking for themselves, they want someone else to do the cognitive heavy lifting while they aimlessly drift from indulgence to indulgence.
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>>73039509
>Based Diuna make you fag
FFS burgers should pass a test to have internet.
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>>73031643
games rigged people don't feel like playing the game of life
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>>73040265
Mind you, Evola opens that very book by explaining who it is meant for. If you're so willing to give in, it wasn't meant for you.
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>>73040265
>Read somthing inspirational
>Do awesome shit
>Be labeled as beta by a gypsy

TOP KEK
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>>73041676

Pretty sure literally no one on /pol/ understands Evola and only pretend to.
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>>73036160
I dont understand women. This happened to me last week.
>Why are you driving manual?
>its fun and engaging
>"You need to stop being so childish"

And reading, buying and fixing shitty houses, skiing, and all the other stupid shit I do is a waste of time? Do they expect me to think that courting and socializing are the only things that matter in life?
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>>73041643
>You're forgetting that property is also something cherished and carefully maintained/protected. A luxury car, the computer I built that I'm using right now
That's why bruises heal, anon.
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>>73031806
Fpbp
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>>73033586
>>73038198
I'm not a redditcuck, what is this supposed to mean?
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>>73031643
i'm starting a dishwashing job tomorrow
I was trying not to think about how badly I wish I'd never been a part of society

oh jeez
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>>73042061
Why in the fuck would you do that? Let Javi take care of that, there are plenty of other low-skill jobs you could find. You are making a colossal mistake.
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being a manchild is exclusively a white man's thing.
people from third world shitholes reach full maturity before the age of 18 because of the place's worse conditions, it's to work or die, act like a child and you will be tricked to death like a stupid dog.
whites, being first worlders are sheltered and dosen't have a broad vision about the real world and how things really work (survival of the fittest shit). and living in such places takes little effort to survive.
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>>73032471
This, yet I hate how people say to stop blaming everything on parents, yet there are just some behaviors and personality problems that are difficult to scrub off. That and shitty genes.
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>>73042142
I'm in southern california and my only work experience since high school has been as a contractor
at the local McDonald's where I applied, 70 people applied for three openings

[spoiler]I'm a 5'6 beaner. Born in the states tho[/spoiler]
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>>73042330
Oh, its in your blood then. Its hard work.
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>>73042386
shitskin life is suffering
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>>73031643
What about those of us who chose work and have no time for dating?

I just worked an 11 hour day, earning time-and-a-half. How else am I going to afford a house in a city where the average home value is well over 500k? (And that's a shanty in the shitty part of town). I have fucking 60k in my savings, and nothing to show for it.

Does this make me a manchild? Do you have a well-paying, demanding job OP? Do you pay all your bills and do your taxes on time? Do you have financial goals you're reaching for? Do you max out your 401k and IRA?
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>>73041998
Not 100% sure but I think it's like when someone takes a screenshot of a post that was posted "3 seconds ago".

They're basically calling bullshit.
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>>73033808
>but we need (thing that you objected to on a matter of intellectual rigor) because (appeal to consequences).

To strengthen your argument, which I call (youre a poopy head ad hom goes here), why don't you explain to me why you can't achieve (avoid consequences outcome) in a secular framework, please.
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I think the current generation should be furious with their parents. After all, they failed to instill a sense of morality in their children, build a proper foundation for identities, and have disregarded or worse, totally cast aside the traditions of our ancestors.

Hell the only reason I have been consumed by modern degeneracy is because I took it upon myself to learn the things they didn't teach me, but sadly thats something very few people will do.
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>>73031643
I think if you know the pros on the matter at hand you know the cons as well, this isn't fucking rocket science here
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>>73031643

The reason is simple: For a certain percentage of men it is no longer worth the time and effort to try to become a normie. Dating has become hyper competitive and so has career building. Therefore if you are below some threshold in attractiveness or motivation, the costs in trying to be a normie vastly outweigh the benefits.

Both of these traits contribute to themselves. If you have no dating prospects and sincerely believe that you'll die a kissless virgin no matter what you do, you lose motivation to get ahead in the career world. This in turn makes you even less attractive and the cycle continues.
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>>73041811
>hobby is fixing electronics to save money
>electrician by trade too
>been living together for 2 years
>I pay most of the bills since she has no skills despite going to uni.
>her pet chews up a ton of our wires
>say ill fix, its only a half hours job anyway
>20 minutes in, half way done fixing about £30 worth of wires.
>there's about 10 minutes left to go.
>"ANON! Stop playing with those wires. You're at home now and I want to watch a film with you. We can just buy some more later."
>stop because I wouldn't mind just watching a film
>get complained at later for not finishing the wires.
I don't get it.
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>>73031889
pretty much this
all we can do is wait for the bloodshed
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i keep losing my job and its mind numbing. the reason, "i dont like that guy" but he is a hard workwe "i just dont like him" i just cant fire him for that "well he [lie lie lie lie]" well okay i will fire him.

funny thing is my last employer even lied on my record of employment saying i quit. just glad there is a system in place i can use to fight it and i did.

fuck is with people these days? oh right political correctness and SJWs.

book me one ticket to death, please
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>>73043166
dump the cunt
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>>73041626
97.25%
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>>73035074
Hey now, hey now.
Don't be like that.

...
I mean you forgot how you can be at your lowest,
shown suddenly how disposable you are to her, and right when you were most vulnerable, and needed support, like you'd had for her when she needed it the most,
...
and then she could use the power of an institution against you,
putting other people as her agents of aggression in reminding you that you are powerless, unwanted, and unwelcome.
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>>73031643

>lie on my resume
>get call today for factory work
>gotta do certificate 3 in logistics
>they tell me to bring in certificates
>atleast 70% of my certificates are legit
>dunno how to explain the other 30% besides i cant find them/they're lost

will it work guys, if i did get the other 30% i lied about, it would've been in high school and that would've been about 4 years ago a long time ago
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Simple fact: Women don't like men anymore. Why waste time dating women who just hate you? I only ever even talk to women if I KNOW they're interested in me and won't think me a creep just for looking at them.
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i am working
not dating isnt by my choice
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>>73035074
If you lot didnt abandon christianity you wouldnt be posing such existencial dooming questions.
I agre that the labour/economic prospects fuel this mindset but guess what in times of war in times goneby also forsake their religion but they had something we dont, a sense o duty and a community to go back to.
By leaving our religions and accepting foreigners we have a community that is mixed and alien só ofc we dont care about it or it about us.
This however is not sustainable, jew hand or not, a strong conservative culture wil always replace this defeated mindset - for survival.
And in europe it will saddly be islam
>mfw islam saves the ”west”
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>>73043166
She's using you and probably sleeping on the side with some immigrant :^)
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>>73031643
Because work and dating aren't enjoyable.
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>>73043485

Islam is actually in it's death throes. I know it may not look it from the outside, but it is.
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>>73031904
>How and why has this mentality gained such popularity?
People don't take pride in their race and country -> don't give a shit if it goes to hell as long as it doesn't affect them.
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>>73043270
98.5%
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>>73043291
>high school certificates
They don't care, only the certificates earnt after high school matter.
Just say you lost them in a house move.
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I don't want to date because women are fucking expensive, and every relationship I've been in has ended with my gf going full-psycho or cheating on me.

I don't work because I'm a student, and I get $1500/month for going to school full-time. If I work, I lose my full-time status and I don't get my free money.
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Grow up for what?

Women dont want to have kids anymore and prefer dicking around, careers are dead for the most part, the housing market is shit and theres a mass scale propaganda set against whites in their own countries

WHY would you want to keep this system afloat?
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>>73043630
Would you mind explaining your thoughts as to why Islam is dying? I'm curious as to why you think it's in its death throes.
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>>73044036

Shit like Isis is just a reaction to the growth of globalism and related stuff. And reaction is inherently taken up by people who are going to lose in the long run.
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>>73032520
/thread
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>>73035020
Whoa
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Young men should just strive to make nationalist parties at a local level, and get involved in shaping communities to be locally independent and industrious.
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>>73031643

>grow up, bro

yes op. grow up, bro. bro you need to grow up, bro. bro, man the fuck up! bro, dude?
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>>73031904
The death of the work ethic
The decline of Christianity and Christian values in favor of moral relativity.
Cultural Marxism's omnipresent advance
the fact that if we get married there's a 50% chance we will get divorced and lose half our stuff and have our children turned against us.
A limitless supply of pornography available for instant gratification.
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>>73044260
I'm considering something like this. My parents really pushed me into college and I'm about to graduate with Computer Science degree this summer. Working a 9-5 sounds like the most soulless and mind-numbing thing I can think of. Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with work, but i'd like to having something to show for it. What I really want to do is move out to a rural area and try and build a self-sufficient property. Garden, solar panels, maybe some chickens or something. City life is becoming less and less appealing.
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>>73031904
>How and why has this mentality gained such popularity?

>Radical feminism.
>The church losing importance and people no longer having substance in life.
>Multiculturalism.
>More women are getting fat, thus driving up the value of average looking girls that the average sperg could have easily landed 25 years ago but can no longer do so today.
>Liberal brainwashing
>Islam gaining popularity
>Urban and suburban areas along the coasts being flooded with non-whites, thus Whites interact with each other much less in those areas.
>College and university has become a joke, yet also somehow a requirement if you want to succeed anywhere in life. Including love.
>Over-saturation of free, easy to access pornography.
>The government wants to do everything in their power from preventing you from being self-sustainable. Everything from limiting your gun rights more and more with each passing decade, to outright fining you and throwing you in jail if you collect rainwater or grow vegetables in your yard.
>Jews
>An increasing reliance on mobile devices
>People are brainwashed to not want to interact with others they don't already know in schools and universities.
>Divorce rates keep climbing, and men almost always get the short end of the stick, even if the woman fucked 30 men behind her husbands back and got knocked up with a nigger child.
>The male to female gap on dating websites is so massive that even when you try to find love on the internet, where we've been programed to do just about everything, it's almost impossible to get women to acknowledge you unless you flat out lie on your profile.
>Ease of acquiring everything you could ever need right from the internet without ever leaving your home has turned more people into recluses who go out and interact with other humans less and less.

Can you really blame that 30 year old who escapes into an MMO every night when shit looks this fucking dismal?
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You are all wrong.

Data for America actually shows that more people than ever are career oriented and go for the highest education levels. They even get married slightly earlier than the last few decades and have more conservative mindsets.

It is only on /pol/. The place full of shut-ins and losers, that all women are feminists and all men sit alone and play video games all day.
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>>73032092
>tfw you won't see a better shitpost in the next few decades
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>>73044541
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>>73039989

You're the one who doesn't understand. Once you take that first step of physical self improvement through lifting, the natural endorphins push you up through the clouds and into the sun!
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>>73035020
Why not make hermetic spacecraft that can generate strong magnetic fields to shield against harmful ionizing sources of radiation. Then you utilize a centrifugal greenhouse while having a robotic fleet to autonomously service the craft.
Once it gets to a planet of significant environmental criteria, it can incubate various species to propagate across the surface. Then leave a satellite marker.

Plus we can make nuclear propulsion, in cadence to ion induction engines for star system flybys. Just mount some sensors on the probe to take measurements.
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>people whining in this thread will later post about making America great again
lmao
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>>73043166
call her out on her bullshit you don't let them get away with this kinda of behavior, if you give an inch they'll take a mile
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>>73040994

That article hit a little too close to home
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>>73045024
>Once you take that first step
the hardest part
>natural endorphins
isn't the whole point of depression that your brain stops making the happy chemicals?
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>>73031643
I don't want to fuck anything other than a 10. Likewise, I'm not busting my ass for anything other then a job paying $75k+ a year.

Seriously, I'd rather fap one out than fuck a 7/10 normie. I'd also rather be unemployed then taking orders by some stupid bitch making $9 an hour.
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>>73031904
Because it's true, and we no longer believe the lies we used to tell ourselves to stay happy and productive?
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>>73040619
There is absolutely no benefit in reading fiction. Non-fiction are the only books worth reading senpai.
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For me, current society isn't worth helping out. When America becomes the great nation I hope it becomes under Trump then I'll feel motivated to help out society.
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>>73031904
Plenty of people have already mentioned instant gratification - that's a big one. Not getting what you want is an important motivator for people, it makes them believe that they'll enjoy life more if they obtain something. Even if you wouldn't actually be any happier getting what you want (this varies more on people rather than the object being got) the sheer psychological anticipation will give you a euphoric moment upon obtaining it. If we're given the objects we want easily, then we lack this 'bonus' happiness. For those sorts of people who will manage to be content (or even downright happy) even without the power of the bonus, this is only a little detraction from life. For the ungrateful, cynical, hardened, or depressive, this makes the pleasure of life meaningless, a state called anhedonia.
Anhedonia is an important piece of the unhappiness of the modern world, both for the growth of nihilism (you need some education in there too) and in the growth of withdrawal from the world.
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>>73031904
You know why anon
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you guys making huge mistake when you listen what woman saying. Dont listen them, they saying illogical things all the time, logic is not about women. Check their feels but dont follow them, make them follow you. Also, don't put her interests above yours. Yes, it sound like total asshole behaviour but thats how alpha work
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I grew up. It sucks. Spending my days fucking with Excel, and pretending to work just so I can shitpost at night and drink.

Stay neet friends
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>>73032092
glorious
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>>73047302
Top tier post.
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Well for most of us I'm assuming, unless outright fucking lazy. We look at the system and find it pointless. I simply refuse to play by your made up rules. Fuck your society. Fuck your poor. Fuck your wealthy. Fuck your schools. Fuck your 40 hour work week making someone else rich because I can't buy shit to get started making fucking anything. Fuck your illegal immigrants destroying a possible living wage off of landscaping. But most importantly fuck you.

Lifes a game where you choose the rules. Except some faggots banded together to force their rules on everyone. I'm not stupid, or extraordinary talented. So I physically am forced to make some rich fucking cunt more wealthy to even make a goddamn living. Or continue my neet ways.
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You're asking me to make tremendous sacrifices which will greatly reduce my quality of life.

What would be my payoff?
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>>73032092
>https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/44ccsg/the_main_reason_leftists_hate_trump_hes_alpha_as/

Christ, he's a big Blue Pill poster.
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>>73032611
>If you were worth anything, she wouldn't cheat.
You are fucking naive if you think this is true.
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>>73047820
>Can't afford to buy to invest
>Can't work well paying jobs
>Won't work low paying jobs to save money
>Won't go to college/trade school to be able to try to get well paying jobs
God its pathetic. Go to trade school, you can make a shit ton of money being your own boss as a tradesman. You can't be a parasite your whole life.
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>>73049589
To be fair I just empathize with the neets, I'm going to college for a degree in genetic engineering on the G.I bill. I'll make all you faggots and your worthless society pay! MUHOAHAHAHAHAHAAWWWW!
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>>73039560
My therapist pushed exercise pretty hard, as he said that not only being depressed, but having a depersonalization disorder could/would be helped by exercise. He claimed that feeling myself move in the world would help remind me of being in it.

It was a good argument, and although I was depressed to the point that I was extremely weak, I also hated myself so much that I could push past what felt like a hellish limit.

So I started exercising. That was closing in on a year ago, and I'm in much, much better shape, having gone from being dangerously underweight, to now being pretty strong, one of the strongest people in my circle of friends and family.

I feel the same. I can dead sprint miles and have outgrown the weight machine my father bought and I still sometimes feel like I don't have the energy in my body to stand up.
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>>73032729
One look at /v/ is all I need to know for how videogamers are childish.
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>"why are all the young men checking out and going their own way instead of slaving away to sustain a society which has nothing but disdain and abuse for them?"

of course most video games are shit nowadays, and you can go ask /pol/ just who could be behind ruining everything? hint: it has the letter J and W and S in it, but there's another letter--the missing link...
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>>73031643

Nihilism. None of it matters, why even bother?
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Because too much of a hassle
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>>73034414
i like you.
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The captcha even confirms it 'I'm not a robot'
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>>73052313
Fucking sharks ruining our economy!
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>>73040994
>"And we'll discover that the real victims of modern feminism are, of course, women themselves, who have been lonelier and less satisfied than they have ever been."
When a single sentence can ruin a good article like that.
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>>73032515
this is my life
eerrr....WAS my life!
>mfw said fuck it
>started own engineering firm from scraps
>started to fuck hookers on the regular
fuck you teachers
fuck you females
get out of my way or prepare for proper rumble
I'm a dickfighting money machine now, spurting jizz and hauling ass
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>>73053367
i guess it's right. for example there a towns in canada where the firefighter's brigade is almost only women, because there a no men left caring about society anymore. but burning houses are still not helpful with raising kids, women have to man up.

but still numbers of mothers with two children and three jobs are rising.

this is all so stupid, it's incredible.
the female mating strategy is a straight way to stone age. what is a modern solution for it? how realistic is it to strip them of their voting rights? amish? idk?
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>>73033808
god isn't a lie, you insufferable faggot retard.

>hurr metaphysics can't be a thing
>hurrdurr that universe has no cause that is connected to a godly attribute
>hurrdurr physical laws have no point where they started happening and existing the way they simply do

it's like you're inside a video game claiming there is no developer and no publisher.

but there is no creation without a creator. that goes for everything.

I would shit straight and shamelessly into your fedora if I could and then place it back on that faulty brain of yours.
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Why don't women understand that we men don't want to date used goods. Why the fuck would I put any fucking effort in a "liberated sex positive womyn" who has fucked 200 Chads before me. I'd rather spend money on video games.
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>>73037253
lack of suffrage doesn't equal property
prior to suffrage Christianity actually gave lots of rights to women that they didn't have previously
the problem is they should've stayed subservient as the Bible said, but ungodly and evil women usurped power from their rightful leaders
we can see the results of female leadership in modern society
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tl;dr broken into two posts my shit experience with women
>have nice childhood for the most part
>get a puppy from my dad, who got the pup from a female co-worker
>week after puppy is dead, mom killed it and screaming at my dad "DID YOU HAVE SEX WITH HER FOR THE DOG?!"
>lots of fights and shit going down for months
>remember once instance where she looked at how scared I was during a fight and tried to hug me and I screamed, she hit me hard
>dad buys a few houses, signs them over to me at age 10
>flash forward a few years, divorce, etc
>mother got shit in the divorce due to the overwhelming evidence of "not a fit parent"
>sister is in one marriage and onto the next
>4 kids
>none of them have the same dad
>other sister is living off of alimony
>forgot to mention my mother was german/polish and my father was scots/irish
>classified as "neon white"
>over the years of renting these houses out to folks dad teaches me a lot about maintenance on everything
>yaddayaddayadda college years
>dad helps me out when he could
>major in electrical engineering
>spend most my time wiring houses, fixing poles and maintenance in local businesses for AC, heating and setting up new businesses electrical needs
>father passes away
>mother tries to force herself back in my now comfortable life
>she gives up and commits suicide a few months later
>demons behind me I feel that maybe its time to start reproducing
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>>73032092
i refuse to accept this as a legit thing. they must be fucking trolling....
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>>73031904
revival of stoicism
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>>73052313
Jehowah's Witnesses?
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>tfw when getting married this Fall, graduated college, have a good job, work out, and still play video games

Not as much as I used to because I have less time, but still
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>>73032034

Nice meme
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>>73031643
I've NEVER seen such a high percentage of people IRL talk like you guys do.

Lets just gave it, you're all bad genetics losers who can't socialize because you have retard brains. That's why you hate women and whine so much about how modern society sucks.

You may have a little more intelligence than most people at certain things, but at everything else you suck, so your intelligence is wasted on creating a fantasy vision of the world that keeps your ego from being bruised to hard. Bitches.
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>>73055004
>>>/r9k/
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>>73031643
Because white men are virtually despised on all levels of society and no matter what we do, we will never reach our full potential.

I would rather imagine I live in a fucking land of elves and dragons than look out my window and see what "freedom" looks like in post 1945 western society.

Our based forefathers are all dead or dying and our guiding generation are disgusting baby-boomers in crocs who loathe themselves and their children.

Berlin in 1900:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m9A8mY-U0

Society had heroes, adventures abroad, things to explore and invent. Beauty and discipline prevailed. A poor white man struggled more, but was at least never at risk of being a "cis scum who needs to check his invisible backpack of priviledge".

Compare it to modern Berlin (pic related)
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>>73031643
>avoid work
I work my ass off and study mathematics as a hobby
>avoid dating
Like I wanna work 40+ hours a week with no overtime pay for it all to spent on a literal retard (women).
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>>73031643
The risk/reward relation of normal life has been skewed massively, and the middle class is disappearing. Education or effort are no longer a guarantee for a good life.

And, of course, the cards are stacked against white men in their own countries. Constantly the target of vile propaganda, constantly being dead last to receive any sort of special treatment. The only thing we have going for us is that we're still a majority population.

Excelling used to mean to be at the top of your field. Today, it means sacrificing most of your life in return for a decently-paying steady job. Being average is being a wageslave with a single bedroom apartment who WILL get laid off within the next decade. So compared to that, does being a manchild sound really that bad? Free money, loads of free time, and a life that's functionally identical to anything you could ever aspire to, anyway?
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>>73054652
tl;dr more shit experience with women, this time with cvcking
>a year or so later I started dating
>a sea of single moms
>lots of women with liberal arts degrees working menial jobs
>find a nice woman date for a month or so
>she takes me to a public place to introduce her son to me, I said "i feel betrayed you hid this from me", she throws a temper tantrum in a park
>she would not stop texting me for a few weeks after that
>after that found another nice woman, half chinese, half white, worked in her parents asian restaurant, nice place too
>dating this woman for a solid 5 months now
>she tells me she is pregnant
>start planning wedding
>she wants a spring wedding, which is about 10 months away
>whups baby born early
>mocha as fuck with little curly hairs
>call off wedding
>her parents are furious at me
>child support hearing after child support hearing delayed and postponed she finally wants to get it done
>they were waiting for a female judge
>female judge is going through everything and points out there is no DNA testing to see if I am the father
>>please keep in mind I am white as fuck and she was half asian half white and the baby is mocha as hell
>ex-fiance says a DNA test was not needed
>judge gives her a look
>ex-fiance starts screaming at the judge "MAKE THIS FUCKING RIGHT I WANT SOME FUCKING CHILD SUPPORT"
>judges face when
>expedited court order DNA testing
>not the father
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>>73055004

Can't handle the bantz. Here you go m8 this should cheer you up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIdIqbv7SPo
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>>73054652
get married, what could go wrong?
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>>73055198
So you suck cock, right?
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>>73055352
All you can do is laugh now. Just say this:

You are free from any expectations other than your own.
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