Hello, currently Hillary leads by 5-8 points in all polls.
This is what it would look like, most optimistically for Trump.
What do you believe?
>>72986947
>lol how will Trump win the Republican nomination? Jeb Bush is beating him by 10 points! Nice try Trumpsters
Nothing he hasn't done before.
>>72987232
The difference is that Trump has been behind Hillary for months now. Trump overtook Jeb almost instantly.
He's made a terrible name for himself at the sake of winning the primaries
>>72987830
The difference is that Trump has no where to go but up. Clinton is not going to gain any new voters. She's dead in the water and barely fending off Sanders. Trump just needs 5-8 points to beat her. That's easy.
Factor in that Clinton supporters are not very enthused by her and therefore not likely to turn out to vote while Trump supporters are near fanatical and you have guaranteed Trump win. He is outplaying her just like he outplayed 13 other Republican candidates.
>>72986947
he'll win VA and NH and win the election (unless pic related happens)
>>72986947
What's with everyone assuming Ohio is in the GOP column?
Ohio will probably be blue. This is what the polls and past voting history indicate.
There haven't been enough polls done on Nevada and Colorado so I am not sure who will win those states.
Iowa is a tossup.
Virginia could go either way as well. I'd say it leans blue though.
Florida, I think, leans red. Obama very narrowly won it in 2012 and Trump is popular there. The Hispanics in Florida are also primarily of Cuban origin and they tend to dislike Mexicans.
That's my take.
>>72988786
He has a better chance of getting Michigan than Virginia.
>>72986947
NC isn't deep red it's a purple state like VA is.
>>72989005
he'll win virginia
source: my bees
>>72989005
Shit meme, Virginia was red for 40 years before Obama
No one is that excited about Hillary
>>72988237
>The difference is that Trump has no where to go but up. Clinton is not going to gain any new voters. She's dead in the water and barely fending off Sanders. Trump just needs 5-8 points to beat her. That's easy.
Guess what?
All those Never Trump people are going to join Hillary. Hillary has no where to go but up now thanks so all those Never Trump people.
>She's dead in the water and barely fending off Sanders
>300 delegates up
>millions more votes
>spent 0$ in Indiana and received 47% of the vote
>>72989759
>All those Never Trump people
so like 10-20 thousand Glenn Beck fans?
Its not that big of a movement bud
No chance for Trump to win. It's not even his fault though, it's impossible for any Republican to win at this point; the demographics are too far in favor of the Dems.
>>72988933
Florida will go red for sure. Ohio and Virginia lean more blue but if Trump has strength in the rust belt he'll win Ohio.
He won't win Pennsylvania though. If Trump wins Pennsylvania, Hillary wins Arizona.
DESTROY SLAVIC RACE.
>>72989848
>not that big of a movement
If 1 in 5 Republican primary voters isn't that big of a movement, you're in for some bad news.
In some states its 1 in 4 and even 1 in 3.
>>72990106
>1 in 5
yeah ok dude lmfao
>>72990195
Check exit polls.
In Indiana 23% of Republican Primary voters would NOT vote for Trump.
In Ohio 31% of Republican Primary voters would NOT vote for Trump.
>>72989750
Democrat governor and two Democrat senators say otherwise. The days of red Virginia are over.
>>72990106
Couldnt you say that about hillary as well?
One half the party doesnt like her. That sounds like a bigger >>movement
>>72990470
One half of all dem voters wouldnt vote for hillary
>>72989912
If Hillary can win Arizona it would be a democrat landslide
Despite whatever fucking stupid poll you guys are basing this on Arizona is a deeply red state
Easter Iowa here, I think Trump's got us bagged.
>>72990610
No. In most swing states Democrats were more satisfied with a Clinton nomination than Sanders nomination.
Most of them agree that Bernie & Hillary energized the party, not divided it.
Hillary is more moderate compared to Trump. Moderate republicans may lean towards Hillary while I can never see a Bernie supporter vote for Trump, a person on the complete other side of the spectrum. The individuals who vote for Trump instead of Hillary were never going to vote for Hillary in the first place.
>>72990470
source or nah
>>72990887
CNN exit polls
>>72990772
This is interesting. Source?
>>72989750
The governor is letting felons vote.
Hillary will win the felon vote in a landslide, given she is one
>>72990818
This is the problem with looking at politics purely as a one axis spectrum.
>>72990943
Can you link the CNN exit polls instead of just giving a vague source? Give a primary source.
If we're going off of polling, votes, and election history, I made this so that it would be the most accurate map statistically speaking. Trump needs to spend his time in the NorthEast and find a candidate who will support him here for VP like Scott Walker or John Kasich to seal the deal in those states. It sucks, but him winning is better then losing with an ebin VP.
>>72990470
The question is going to be if the increased turnout he created can overcome that. I also think some of those will decide to vote for Trump anyway as we get closer to election day, and the question of the Supreme Court nominees really starts to weigh on people's minds.
>>72990943
>dude the polls
oh ok so you don't have em?
>>72988786
>>72986947
Trump was within 20,000 votes of Hillary in PA
He'll win it in the General
>>72990818
>> energize the party
Then how do you explain the record turnout for Republican voters and the 30% drop in dem voter turnout.
>>72991251
>>72989759
>All those Never Trump people are going to join Hillary.
A good chunk of those Never Trump people are butthurt conservatives that would never vote for Hillary.
>>72991269
No he won't because most Bernie voters will switch over to Hillary. Republicans winning PA is a meme.
>>72991545
And most Republicans will switch over to trump in the general so what's your point?
What chance does Trump have of winning NY?
>>72991545
I'm not convinced this is true. Bernie supporters I know absolutely despise Hillary.
>>72991671
New York won't be won. Very low. He does have a high chance of winning in the rust belt however.
>>72991545
Obama beat Romney in PA by only 5%. Trump can flip enough white work class votes to his side to flip the state.
>>72991671
I'd say almost 0%. It's Hillary's homestate too. It's one of the most democratic states in the nation too.
>>72991796
Hillary does horribly with working class whites. While Trump and Bernie do extremely well
>>72989414
Do your bees tell you government secrets via carefully positioned stings on your left nut?
>>72991835
>NY
>Hillary's homestate
NY will be blue though.
>>72990979
It is counter-intuitive.
But I do believe there is a bigger division in the Republican party than Democratic party.
On the republican side you have moderates, establishment people, christian conservatives, libertarians, and the tea party.
On the democrat side you have moderates & leftists
>>72991076
>>72991265
http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/in/Rep
http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/oh/Rep
lol
>>72991252
All turnout that comes from Whites will be canceled due to minority turnout (specifically Hispanics)
>>72991313
A hyper-sensationalized race & competitive race is what caused it.
>>72991417
Turnout doesn't correlate to general election wins LOL
>>72991711
I'm sure they'll get in line like certain Cruz/Kasich voters.
>>72991796
>>72991852
The strongest demographic for Bernie & Trump have been white males. It's not enough to win a general election, the reason Romney lost specifically was due to failing to do well with women & minorities.
>>72991993
>muh minority pandering
It's not necessary. Romney would have won with like 3% more of the white vote. Trump will definitely nail more men than Romney (probably 60%). Trump's best strategy is to flip blue collar whites to try and get some of the rust belt or north east; it's viable and can win the election.
PA resident voting for Trump
hope my state doesn't fuck everything up
>>72991993
Nowhere on that page did it say that 1 out of every 5 Republicans wouldn't vote for Trump in a general. Also the voter turnouts for a party show a stigma of the current voting trends of a nation. So based on this evidence we can tell that the Republican party as a whole is doing much better than the democrats and that this general is poised in the Republicans favor and will be extremely competitive.
>>72986947
>Hillary leads by 5-8 in all polls
Alright everyone, I guess it's time to convince 5 to 8 people you know to vote trump
Trump seems to believe he will win New York. Do you guys think its possible?
>>72992456
No, as much as I like Trump New York isn't possible, however he will most likely be able to flip rust belt States or at least make the democrats compete there
>>72992211
Trump will nail more white men while he stutters with Hispanics & Women.
It simply will not be enough.
>>72992401
Go to second page.
>>72992456
It's the stupidest thing he's said up to this point.
>>72986947
Can anyone tell me why would Hew Hampshire go blue? Isn't NH the constitution loving state that would never let go of the guns and freedom?
>>72991993
>http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/in/Rep
>http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/oh/Rep
>lol
Nowhere does this say 1 in 5 wont vote for Trump in the general
Jesus christ you are certifiably retarded, time to stop posting.
>>72992720
>Trump will nail more white men while he stutters with Hispanics & Women.
Hispanics only matter in Florida. Married women will end up voting the same as their Husbands which will be mostly Trump which is good enough. States like PA and VA are mostly white, so minorities don't matter and of course the South is safely red. Get more white men and you win. That's the best strategy.
I'm an expert, ask me anything, this is what my research has shown. It has never been wrong any election I've done it in.
>>72992456
no, new york despises him
We all know Trump would have a tough time in Virginia. His campaign is going to heavily target PA,Wisconsin,Michigan,NH It's depending on who his running mate. All Democratic strategists agree that Trump will have a good chance in the rustbelt. Also one note on the map. He is polling ahead in Colorado and tied in Iowa right now. I'm not a Trump shill and I know it will be tough for him to win. His key is the rust belt. If he can win one of ethier Colorado,Iowa,NH, and Wisconsin, than he wins. If he can't swing one than it doesn't look good.
>>72992720
>70% of butthurt Kasich babbies from Ohio wont vote for Trump
sure they wont
>57% of Cruz supporters from Indiana will probably vote for Trump
ok..
so where are you getting this 1 in 5 of all Republicans across all states ?
>>72992939
Please refer to >>72992720
I am not the certifiably retarded one.
THIS IS THE REAL MAP CHECK THEM
>>72993265
Flip NY with PA, and Vermont with Nh
>>72993034
Clearly
>>72993034
If Romney was within 5% of Obama, whats to say that Trump, popular in the east coast and grabbing moderates and independents, won't close that gap and win it?
>>72992980
Well, in Indiana Clinton won better among married individuals compared to unmarried individuals.
>>72989759
I would like to point out, as a former Bern victim, that a lot of bern supporters are voting trump.
>>72993248
you're still not understanding that this doesn't add up to 1 in 5 of all Republicans being #NeverTrump
NeverTrump is almost entirely Cruz supporters that listen to Glenn Beck
They'll come around, even if they don't its nowhere near 1 in 5 you fucking mongoloid.
>>72989848
>>72990106
>>72990195
>>72990470
>>72990943
We're still 6 months and four days away
When Trump starts bashing Clinton into oblivion, they'll turn
In the "trending" segment in local LA news, they talked about Republicans voting their registration cards. As if burning those even matter.
>>72992864
It is that kind of a state, but many democrats get elected because nearly all the population of NH is in the Southeast part which is bordering libshit Massachusetts. As a result, many of these Souther NH residents are Massholes who moved here to avoid excessive taxation and subsequently cry that they don't have tax funded garbage pick up and "mo money of dam programs".
Having said that, democrats that are elected in NH know damn well not to touch the subject of guns and are also aware that enacting a sales tax would guarantee the end of their political careers. As for guns, we also have GONH, a very active gun rights group that has stopped democrats in the past from enacting restrictions.
>>72993403
Well duh. Married women tend to be more conservative and Clinton is hard right compared to Sanders who is mostly supported by young, unmarried people.
>>72992864
Locusts from Massachusetts moving there because they want lower taxes, but they don't realize (or maybe they do?) that voting Democrat in NH will cause them to also have high taxes eventually.
>>72993574
>When Trump starts bashing Clinton into oblivion, they'll turn
I think she'll lose a few points but I don't believe it'll be as effective as people are saying.
She's had an email scandal, benghazi, and all those 90s scandals and she's still getting votes.
It's white noise to the public at this point.
>>72993517
According to that it's 1 in 5. I'm not sure what else to say.
>>72989414
what's the deal with bees, Georgie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ZZOmjO5Ww
Prove that this won't happen
Bring back white male 21+ years and property owners as only people allowed to vote. Would clean this shit up real quick.
>>72986947
Unless Hillary is indicted, 2016 will look like this.
>>72993792
Why are the dems so damn fucking retarded?
Leaving their blue paradise they've created to the evil state?
They're like a fucking disease, ruin one place, run to good place and ruin it.
>>72994234
I don't think Florida & NC will go blue.
>>72994493
The dems are smart. They're pushing for amnesty & cuba relation reform for specific reasons.
They don't care about the illegal children, they care about the votes and they're just expanding their voting base so they can certify dems to turn Texas purple, once they do that Republicans can never win the presidency ever again.
With cuban immigration reform probably happening next, they'll never be able to win Florida either again.
It's going to be a disaster for the republicans unless they start appealing to minorities & Rubio was the last hope this time around.
>>72994113
yeah, i can't wait for christian shariah
>not realizing the liberal media hasn't even pretended to start in Trump
Y'all niggaz best be prepared for the John McCain treatment.
>>72993509
this is not true
>>72994798
Whoa but do they know that by doing what they're doing (which is pretty much selling the country for votes) they're going to destroy themselves as well?
I cannot believe that Tyrone from Baltimore will give a fuck if its the dems or not, he will pull the trigger anyway...
>>72991269
you're underestimating the nigger turnout machine in Philly. It's completely unmatched by anything in this country. He could win PA but it's an uphill battle.
>>72994798
>The dems are smart
I've read your posts in this thread. Most of your assertions are unsubstantiated shit posts and conjecture with this being the crown achievement.
Dems sure are smart in one sense. They will hasten the economic collapse of this nation. If that's the goal, then intelligent they are. This country can't sustain their programs and businesses go Galt even faster than they have under the highest corporate tax rate in the world.
I don't really don't care if you reply, i'm done reading your drivel.
Also, I'm a butt hurt Cruz supporter, and I'm certainly not voting for your faggot God-King. Come at me.
>>72986947
Hilary will go for the Hispanic vote and win Arizona. Trump will go for hard working Americans and will win Virginia.
Iowa will decide the election.
>>72995402
Sorry, I meant to say Hilary won't win AZ.
>>72995350
>Bring back white male 21+ years and property owners as only people allowed to vote. Would clean this shit up real quick.
Well, you did say that earlier.
Also, did you read the rest of the post? I was saying that in terms of them getting votes
pls dont talk about me about drivel when you're the one driving that
>>72988933
Ohio is red this time. Trust me. Lived here my entire life and could call every election from the way people talk about it. Trump will take Ohio by a wide margin. Screen cap this post.
>>72995382
You need to protect your libertarian ideals, After the country is fixed.
>>72995973
Authoritarian Democrats in red ties will not fix the country.
>>72988237
Clinton's supporters might not be enthused by her, but the average American is worried about a Trump presidency. He has his work cut out for him to prove to the public that he can be a legitimate statesman and give us specific policy that's grounded in reality. "America makes bad deals. I'll make good deals" doesn't count. Can he do it? I'm not sure, he was obviously trying to last night, but he's really going to have to hit the books if he wants to present himself as a viable commander-in-chief.
I am an independent voter who loathes Hillary and Bill even more, but Trump hasn't convinced me that he even wants to be president. Much less that he's capable.
Wisconsin is always close. PA and Michigan former white union Dems voting for Trump. Those states are interesting.
>>72986947
If he takes Webb as his VP (as I hope) I feel that would give him a good chance to take Virginia.
>>72996333
WI is blue as fuck now after the walker catastrophy
>>72995402
reporting from Iowa, Shillary shills have a pretty solid infrastructure here. Very hard to tell.
MAY
JUNE
JULY
MARCH
AUGUST
SEPTEMBER
OCTOBER
NOVEMBER
7 MONTHS AWAY!
TAKE YOUR "POLLS" AND SHOVE EM
Sum up american elections system for a frog pls.
I vaguely know how it works, but I'm a little confused.
Trump have to win the Republican nomination before the actual election right ? Does he have any chance to win it ? I mean, I thought the establishement and the lobbies are against him, it seems to me a little crazy that they let him pass like that.
>>72996525
I was referring to primary turnout. The reason Trump got so many votes in the primaries in the rustbelt, is because he isn't the typical Republican.
>trumplettes have Michigan, PA, Ohio, FL, NY going red
the /pol/ echo chamber is fucking delusional and hilarious. The faster they rise, the harder they fall. This November will be catastrophically funny to everyone who hasn't drank the Trumpool-aid
>>72994049
>WV
>Blue
no
>>72989912
>Florida will go red for sure
huh? says who? FL voted for Obama both times and nearly gave Gore take the presidency before that but the fucking GOP bitch (forget her name) nixed it. i don't think FL going red is a sure thing, mate, even with his country club down here.
>>72995570
Ah yes, the tu quoque from Microsoft's beta model.
Not even a refutation, much less an argument. You're really bad at this.
>>72997391
You said you didn't care about me replying and didn't want to read my "drivel".
Please try being consistent.
>>72997173
Cubans are more conservative and Trump has quite the support with whites, more than Romney and McCain had in Florida.
>PA
>Hillary
nice gay map OP
>>72994113
Sorry but I don't want an eventual oppressive oligarchy you fucking traitor for the kikes
>>72997563
while you're correct about the Cuban majority as red, i doubt he can make up the votes Hillary will receive from the blues. recent polls, which mean virtually nada, suggest FL will remain a blue state in prez election. what i'm interested in seeing is if Trump chooses Rick Scott as his running mate, will it bump his numbers or not, since Scott is generally reviled in the tri-county - Miami-Dade, Broward, and West Palm Beach - area.
>>72996525
Yeah, Walker is pretty much on his way out the next election and the percent of minorities is going up. Republicans will never win in Wisconsin again. Unless they change their platforms after this inevitable Trump failure, they'll lose congress too.
>>72997086
are you an idiot
