In Ukraine, as the country struggles with its identity, that’s doubly true. While Ukrainian political parties try to push the country toward Europe or Russia, a young, rising Ukrainian historian named Volodymyr Viatrovych has placed himself at the center of that fight. Advocating a nationalist, revisionist history that glorifies the country’s move to independence — and purges bloody and opportunistic chapters — Viatrovych has attempted to redraft the country’s modern history to whitewash Ukrainian nationalist groups’ involvement in the Holocaust and mass ethnic cleansing of Poles during World War II.
The revisionism focuses on two Ukrainian nationalist groups: the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA), which fought to establish an independent Ukraine. During the war, these groups killed tens of thousands of Jews and carried out a brutal campaign of ethnic cleansing that killed as many as 100,000 Poles.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/02/the-historian-whitewashing-ukraines-past-volodymyr-viatrovych/
>>72980042
Stalin once starved those living shits. Sadly, he was unable to finish the job. Hopefully Putin will purge them.
Good thing that poland totaly didn't killed innocent ukrainians and jews in Lemberg while the war of 1919 eh?
>>72980489
Ukrainian crimes on Poles and Jews have longer history
Horrible
>>72981377
Everything between the rhine and the volga has a history of killing itother fot bullshit reasons.
>>72980042
yes goyms fight each other while you being overrun by niggers
>>72981946
Poland is not overrun by niggers. Ukraine is overrun by Russians for that matter.
>>72981377
>crimes against Jews
Do I commit a crime against a rat when I set a trap? Do I commit a crime against a parasite when I take medicine to kill it?
>>72980042
cant we just put all this genocide stuff behind us say were sorry then try and make a better world so it doesn't have to happen again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw
Ukraine is weak
>>72982236
Dont cut yourself on that edge anon
>>72982397
So when do Ukrainians start apologizing?
>>72980042
>Ukrainian nationalist groups’ involvement in the Holocaust and mass ethnic cleansing of Poles during World War II.
AHAHAHHA laughable you filthy parasitic kikes literally tried to starve everyone to death.
Fuck your holocaust you filthy polish kike.
>>72982836
Wow, that's rude.
You should educate yourself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
>>72982988
That sounds as real the holocaust.
>>72980042
Thanks for giving Putin more ammo for his propaganda.
>>72980042
>these groups killed tens of thousands of Jews and carried out a brutal campaign of ethnic cleansing that killed as many as 100,000 Poles.
Oh my. It's quite shoking deeds. Who could know litteral nazis can do such thing?
Seriously nazies? Killing jews? Nah it's too unrealistic. Probably an moscal agent disinfo.
>>72983334
Who gives a fuck about Putin, when a prominent person in Ukraine is trying to whitewash national socialism, which is condemned by people worldwide? This seems to me as pretty uncivilized. Maybe in fact some Ukrainians are just violent, stupid Huns
>>72980042
>by Josh Cohen
>Cohen
>>72983334
Poland doesn't make an official problem out of it only because Ukraine is in conflict with Russia and making historical disputes now would be acting in interest of Kremlin. But as soon as Russian-Ukrainian conflict ends, Poland will come back to the problem
>>72983216
Don't go full retard.
>>72983334
did you get lost?
>>72980042
Bandera was a freedom fighter, he fought to liberate the Ukrainian land from Polish and Russian civilians. No nazis in Ukraine, buddy. Glory to Ukraine, glory to heroes!
>>72980042
Btw. that doesn't mean that those animals that attacked Ukraine are any better https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD_%281937%E2%80%9338%29
>>72982988
>60k poles
> Holodomor:The death toll of Ukrainians and Russians in the Holodomor genocides was 2.4 to 7.5 million.
>>72980042
Judeo-bolshevism.
>>72984132
Well the Soviets killed about 200,000 Poles in 1937, and the Ukrainians killed about 150-200,000 Poles during WW2, but the DIFFERENCE was in the BRUTALITY. >>72983781
>>72980042
not as much as the Eternal Ivan whitewashes the crimes of Stalin in the 20s and 30s or even during the """"great patriotic war""""
>>72984530
Yeah, that's why Stalin is our official national hero right now.
>>72984530
Soviet crimes are well-known. Moreover, Putin apologized for Katyń genocide by putting flowers on graves of Polish officers.
Ukraine is supposed to do the same in relation to Polish victims of Wołyń-genocide
>>72984879
Spot the difference. >>72984774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giYwMVSlAGs
>>72980042
Nobody gives a shit
>>72985123
Fuck Banderite scum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vLh0PaqfIE
>>72980042
Why should we care? Ivan and Dmitry will sonn erase hohols from face of earth
>>72980042
Question:
If Ukrainians participated in the genocide of Poles during WW2, why does Poland take them in as refugees then? It's not that I consider Ukrainians subhuman in any way - certainly not compared to the shit that the rest of Europe seems to get - but isn't there any bad blood between the two peoples?
Armenians probably wouldn't take in Turkish refugees.
>>72987046
Because we are not retards who build future on the basis of history? Most Ukrainians are good people and they fit in perfectly into our society.
And they are not "refugees", they come here to live and work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tePI2blTEs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jagq5qhqLAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVI0S9jG9FA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNmyBJbEB8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyXaJRNyk9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt1gFe32d8o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAKgeHQg1U8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEA_leqCUPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMXHTnA4ks4
>Ukraine
No such thing.
>>72984774
Hey Ruskie, why dont Canadiam Russians speak up?
CDN Ukrainians are pushing EuroMaidan lies to Canada gov't (Harper then Trudeau the II). Russians are as numerous as Ukranians in Canada, yet they let themselves be painted as Mafia bosses and Trade Union thugs.
>>72980042
When will Ukraine get its rightful clay back from Polish thieves?
>>72987831
So they're migrants?
Or are they actually escaping war and seek asylum for safe harbour in another country? In which case they would still be refugees. The word does not necessarily have any negative connotations, especially not if your legislation allows, and society faciliates, that they may quickly assimilate into your community and contribute as all others. This is, in fact, great (regardless of whether they're migrants or refugees).
I'm glad to hear that you are reasonable and don't bear grudges over something that happened almost 80 years ago. This cannot be said of many people. I would gladly trade 1 muslim refugee for 10 ukrainians.
>>72989117
Stop inciting international conflicts
>>72989185
>Or are they actually escaping war and seek asylum for safe harbour in another country?
Nope, they are coming to Poland from 2007, but 2011-2012 was a period when they began to come here in bigger numbers.
>>72983779
>Poland doesn't make an official problem out of it only because Ukraine is in conflict with Russia and making historical disputes now would be acting in interest of Kremlin. But as soon as Russian-Ukrainian conflict ends, Poland will come back to the problem
KEK
>>72989185
Ukrainians are surely better than these brown/black people that you take in millions. At least for Poland.
If you mentioned "refugees", yes, we also take some refugees from Ukraine, but they are not a big number, and they are only Ukrainians who managed to prove Polish roots and that in their veins flows Polish blood. Our army rescues such Ukrainian Poles and transports them to Poland, they are given here new apartments, jobs and benefits. But only Ukrainians of Polish blood can count on such privileges, non-Polish Ukrainians have no chance to gain a refugee status in Poland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz4AUvaLJHs
And here articles from Polish press about new apartments for these families:
http://sopot.naszemiasto.pl/artykul/uchodzcy-z-ukrainy-w-sopocie-maja-juz-mieszkanie-zdjecia,3438199,artgal,t,id,tm.html
http://www.radiokrakow.pl/wiadomosci/nowy-sacz/uchodzcy-z-ukrainy-otrzymali-mieszkanie-w-nowym-saczu/
http://www.radio.bialystok.pl/wiadomosci/suwalki/id/125195
http://tvp3.tvp.pl/19976878/rodzina-z-ogarnietego-wojna-donbasu-juz-na-swoim-dostali-mieszkanie-i-prace
http://ro.com.pl/kolejna-rodzina-z-donbasu-dostala-mieszkanie-i-prace/01213946
https://radiogdansk.pl/index.php/wiadomosci/item/22899-zobaczyli-swoje-przyszle-mieszkania-dwie-polskie-rodziny-z-ukrainy-osiedla-sie-w-gdansku.html
>>72990575
These Ukrainians of Polish roots are rescued mainly from Donbas and Mariupol - cities where war is going on, btw
>ITT Butthurt Poles showing the same behavior like Jews
It's Fucking long time ago move along. You are slavic brothers and should stick together. Poles did also enough shit in their history. But I have the impression poles try always to play the victim card, just like the Jews.
We Germans cleaned the Polish nation of Jews, but looks like their spirit lives on.
>>72991849
>You are slavic brothers and should stick together.
Polish national identity is not based on racial bullshit like "slavic" and stuff. We are Polish, not "slavic". And being a brothers means that you were born by the same mother. There is no "brothers" in international relations.
> Poles did also enough shit in their history.
No, i don't think so. Poles were the most innocent nation during WW2 and not only in this period.
> We Germans cleaned the Polish nation of Jews
Yes, you did. You don't deny your crimes against our nations, unfortunately Ukrainians do
>>72982236
This is /pol/
Go back to r/4chan.
>>72991849
we will stop talking about it as soon as ukrainian president apologizes on knees for genocide in volhynia
