King Felipe of Spain Dissolves Parliament, Clearing Way for New Elections
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/04/world/europe/king-felipe-spain-dissolves-parliament-new-elections.html
The step followed months of political paralysis and discord over who should form a government after inconclusive elections in December. That election resulted in a fracturing of Spain’s political landscape with the emergence of insurgent parties that challenged the establishment, marking a sea change in the nation’s politics.
The repeat election is now scheduled for June 26, but opinion polls suggest that the outcome of a new vote could look much like the first, which split ballots among four main parties, with no single one close to a majority.
The repeat of elections was virtually guaranteed a week ago, when Felipe’s final round of consultations with party leaders ended in failure.
Since then, the party leaders have instead opened a new round of mutual recriminations over who should be held responsible for leaving Spain without an elected government at a time of economic, social and political challenges.
>Spanish
>Democracy
Jajajaja
The more time we are without government the better. We don't need them.
>>72979764
I honestly think the king will be a much better leader than any politician here.
Why does the Spanish king and military dress like dictators?
>>72981113
How the fuck do you want them to dress?
>>72980702
/thread
>>72979764
Everyone saw this coming
except Pedro Sanchez kek
>>72981113
All royalty everywhere dresses like that
>>72981113
Quite the reverse actually.
Dictators dress like kings so they manifest an air of authority.
We work better without a goverment. Unemployment has go 150k down this month. Anarchy when?
>>72980474
this
I will vote whoever is big enough to be relevant, but with the less potential amount of votes, for maximum government-blocking
If anyone wins with a majority they will send our country even more to hell
>PP
literally a mafia, I've seen third world sewers cleaner than them
>PSOE
ultrashills, will do anything for power, merkel dickriders
>Ciudadanos
TTIP lol nope
>Podemos
commies, SJWs
it's all ogre
>>72982589
You are seeking despotism, which is better than the statism you have.
Lets see if you are able to evolve into a monarchy, and then into a republic. Cave men nation.
>>72982604
So there isn't a central o right party in Spain?
>>72981113
Ineducated colonial
>>72982809
They're minor so they don't get representation
>>72982604
Why did Vox not become a big party?
I qm disgusted by this country. We could have a minarchist nationalist party,and instead we got the cucks of podemos and ciudadanos
When are you guys bringing Franco back?
>>72982809
All the parties are social democrats,like in the rest of Europe.
>>72983015
>Not wanting based Isabel instead of the dwarf
>>72979764
Oy vey, how dare the stupid goyim question the establishment!
>>72982913
>>72982932
>Why did Vox not become a big party?
same as why UPyD got BTFO and P-LIB is irrelevant
Spanish champions final and no goverment the future seems bright fellas
>>72983289
But after all the corruption crap PP should have falled,and Vox was the perfect replacement. It is also funny that Spain produces so many libertarians in academia while they got no votes in the election.
>>72979764
is this king in favor of re-islamification or against it?
>>72979764
I would vote for the Comunión Tradicionalista even if they can't possibly win a seat.
>>72983549
He has no opinion i think he would make the wall higher though
>>72983549
he's secretly based but he has to play pretend a little for stability
>>72983725
Modern Carlists are socialists
I hear spain has gone to the dogs. Even shitskin south americans are leaving it.
>>72983988
I mean this guys: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comuni%25C3%25B3n_Tradicionalista_Carlista&prev=search
Return to glorious monarchy when?
>>72983549
He and the king of Saudi Arabia are homies,so who knows. But he would be better than any of the cucks in parliament. He should make a coup.
At least Real just won.
>>72984010
Yeah there's so much unemployment and nojobs migrants are passing straight through Spain to reach Cuckmany, Sweden and the likes
Every bad has a good thing
>>72984262
The rest of the world sucks at football. Not a surprise.
>>72980702
Word bro... Either him or Zombie Franco
>>72984566
>Not wanting based Aznar
>>72983549
He doesn't make many political statements and when he does are pretty neutral.
>>72983725
We all like carlists but where I live I can't vote them. And like that in many other places of Spain. They are dead. The most similar party is the PNV from Basque Country. Differences are they are nationalists but imo they have some top-tier politicians.
>>72984743
Abs as big as pecs.....no thankyou
>>72984743
>caused crisis
>corrupt
>refuses to retire because he is to stupid to realize how much he fucked up
>based
>>72984856
RIP Carlism, you fought for the Counter-Revolution for too long
>>72981113
Who are Spain bros are going to vote for?
>Based Ciudadanos
>Podemos ser Venezuela
>Cuckservative Party
>Social-Cuckservative Party
>>72984993
>caused crisis
Meme
>corrupt
Any source other than lefties crap
>refuses to retire because he is to stupid to realize how much he fucked up
He is just doing ex president crap, like giving talks and shit.
>based
He is
>>72985267
She is so hot
>tfw No qt anti catalan gf
Spain needs fascism.
>>72984124
>already King
>make a coup
Europe is so dumb.
>>72985810
Thanks the French revolution. They fucked Europe into the commie hole that it is today
>>72982589
That's because your qts are fleeing to the Americas to marry people with jobs.
>>72986075
Counter-Revolution of a Decentralized Confederation of Principalities, Bishoprics, and Guild Cites When?
>>72985267
Ciudadanos is the only reasonable choice. Podemos is shit, PSOE is generic, PP is a mafia... The problem is... ALL OF THEM ARE WILLING TO TAKE REFUGEES. LIKE SERIOUSLY WTF. WE HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS INSIDE, WHO THE FUCK WOULD WANT TO COME HERE FOR """A BETTER LIFE""" WHEN GERMONEYZ AND SWEDEN EXIST REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
They are willing to do anything for the votes.
Daily reminder
>>72986105
>Woman
>Chosing Mexicans
Kek. All the mestizos come from males cucking natives. You were born to be cucked Pedro
>>72980474
Durruti approves this statement
>>72986331
>tfw no glorious Carlist king
Wake me up
>>72986105
>"""""""""people"""""""" in mejico actually believe this
>>72986711
What's wrong with San Marino and Malta?
>>72986331
I would love to see one but it is unlikely and less in this cucked country. We need this system to get self-destroyed first and then from the chaos the order will emerge. It's sad but there's no way back.
>>72982589
Durruti approves even more
>>72986711
Thank you, but you are still a pirate
> <3
Do we claim her as Spanish?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED8MjGuFI7o
>>72984566
Get that cuck name out of here
>>72986997
Most monarchs don't even want a Counter-Revolution and the Catholic Church is fighting against it's own interest. We can only trust individual Reactionary clergymen and a new generation of Nobles who dedicate themselves to the Counter-Revolution or risk losing their titles for their entire family.
>>72986331
>not Counter-Revolution of a Centralized Autocratic Empire
Get on my level, kholop.
>>72987037
>to get self-destroyed
Time is our Ally.
>>72982713
Republics are devolutions of monarchy. It's like a union taking over a factory from the rightful capitalist owner. The factory will abruptly or gradually become more and more shitty due to the maligned incentive structure of communally owned and managed property.
The best government would be an absolutist monarchy presiding over a relatively free-market economy and eugenic culture. There may be schemes possible to keep irrational monarchs in check with a system of peers, but it's tricky because that opens the door to the fracturing of sovereignty.
>>72987178
>posts mixed gypsy
> "Do we claim her as Spanish"
Asturias es España, lo demas es tierra conquistada
>>72979764
He should rule as a absolute monarch, much better than the Hydra that "democracy" created
>>72987368
The Problems of Centralized Absolute Monarchies
>Gallicanism of the Church where it loses its privileges
>Political self-interest is prized above religious interest (ex. Centralize d"Catholic" France fighting for the Protestants in the 30 Years war against the Habsburgs)
>Privileges of the Nobility are destroyed and brings forth modern bureaucratic governance that can only bring liberal reform once you let lawyers and intellectuals as civil servants.
>Much easier to subvert by Revolutionaries, have you heard of Enlightened Despotism? They implemented the beginnings of Left-Wing thinking in government with the Monarch's approval.
Absolutism is Self-Destructive
>>72987556
Vete a la mierda. Sevilla es más spainish entonces Asturias
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_2nniy6WXk
>>72987980
>Sevilla es más spainish entonces Asturias
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
holy shit. fuck off gypsy.
>>72987290
Democracy has its days count. Time is in our favour,as based Hoppe said. We just have to know when to strike,and create propaganda. Some Spanish libertarians are actually supporting absolutism. https://youtu.be/7NKveNkpz-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED8MjGuFI7o
>>72980702
Amen Spainbros
Return to Monarchy when?
Felipe seems like a chill dude has to keep meeting with all these shitheads that can't agree on anything
>>72987556
>Spain
>Not Castilla and its bitches.
Keep being this deluded pal
>>72987980
>Mericuck
>puts text on google translate
>so retarded that he puts "then" instead of "than" and typos Spanish
Fucking kill yourself faggot, holy fucking shit
>>72988215
I am not a fan of libertarianism mixing with traditionalism. The guild system of the ancien regime was base don granted privileges to practice one's trade in a given location. Not very libertarian
I am not a socialist but the Free Market imports degenerate culture.
>>72988160
Gypsy jajaja.
Goth rape baby trying to claim hes Spanish. I bet your whole family comes from Catalonia.
>>72988269
Libertarians are actually supporting monarchy right now. We just have to create and anti frente popular party to uncuck ourself. Glorious minarchist traditionalist monarchy is in our hands if we play our cards right
>>72988422
Free market was a esential part of medieval Europe. Guilds cant survive,in this industrial world,but they should be in charge of education. Libertarians in Spain,want the old law,the fueros and cutting social expending. They are our greatest allies.
>>72988520
I wish, at least i could have some jewish blood that could help me in my plot to make Spain great again.
>>72988340
Come on man, have some sense of humor. I don't think like that. Maybe with andalucians but come on... they are andalucians.
>>72988903
You are still Castilla's bitch. At least you are amongst the god tier Iberians
>>72988767
Guilds are no where near free market. Guilds were legal cartels, the closest modern equivalent is a trade association. Guilds were essentially in production and a way to maintain control of the economy to a local elite and preserve traditionalism.
A truly Free Market would support free trade, oppose protectionism etc. While Guilds tried their best to maintain their local power and where local monopolist. I support guilds because they prevent the cultural decay of the free market without the economic downfall of socialism. The charters that gave guilds their privileges was granted by the state of all things.
Nonetheless I guess the libertarian can make useful puppets for now.
>>72988767
Not to mention the conceptual concept of a free market was born int he Enlightenment.
The Guild system was essentially just privatized regulatory bodies.
>>72979764
go back to monarchy, clean shit up and show the world that fascism is good
>>72989333
Remove Asturias from the good tier and add leon to the shit tier list and we have a deal
>>72979764
At least we got rid of jews.
You know? Our niggers are africans who mumble siñor , por favor y gracias. It reminds me to the slaves of django.
I would chop my dick before leaving my paella siesta wonderfull weather and landscapes country filled with hot brunnettes and a few blonds for a suburb filled with xie cunts and methodist who.want me to chant with McCain while being tipped by fox tv for being friend of Jewo McGoldberg and Rajez cuthrappali
>>72983337
>>72984743
Thats Jeremy Irons
>>72988544
I have been thinking about this lately
can he actually form a party and get elected as president?
>All this hate on a monarchy
you fucks should be thankful for having a king, stop being spoiled; peasants.
>>72989625
Not free market,free trade,I made a mistake. There was no tariff,decentralized taxation,decentralized money production and decentrilized education,which is were libertarians and traditionalists converge. The peoblwm with guilds nowadays,is that they wouldnt have the capital to create modern industry,so they wouldnt be viable anymore.
>>72989854
No. "Ley dont" some parties need a lot more votes to get seats compared to PP and PSOE. We wouldn't even get a fucking seat.
KILL ALL POLES.
>>72979764
why does everything have to be a shitty memeocracy now? how about some variety
>>72989854
He is the most liked polititian in our country. He or Bertin Osborne are our only chances for not getting a lefties goverment in the future
How come I never see anyone complain about Spanish colonialism?
>>72990077
If the king went to the elections we could get 55% of the vote easily.
>>72989964
I fully support decentralization of the economy of course.
Guilds can come back to a modern economy. Remember Guilds have a modern equivalent: Trade Associations. Just organize the Spanish Economy into trade associations based on geographic location. Ex: Break up massive corporations and have their local areas essentially become new small businesses who associate with each other based on their industry.
>>72989333
>Catalans shit tier
>Castilian god tier
>A fucking desert with no industry
>>72980702
Vote for Partido Carlista and install the federation ruled by the king
>>72990370
We dindu nuffin wrong
>>72990417
Just realised you were talking about the king. i though you wanted to make a /pol/ party in Spain. I agree that he would win easily, but is it posible? can he be head of state AND of the government?
>>72989964
This System >>72990514
prevents businesses from becoming to powerful so they can never control the government yet it isn't the cancer of socialist control.
>>72990417
He is our last hope, and not because he is good but because everyone else is too bad, and that's sad, anyway he stills the only one who I would trust
>>72987895
>Gallicanism of the Church where it loses its privileges
The Church should be given full support in spiritual matters, but should not meddle with important political decisions. You wouldn't want another Raskol threatening the integrity of the country, would you?
>Political self-interest is prized above religious interest
You can't afford to enforce religious uniformity like Spain if you're ruling a multifaith empire.
>Privileges of the Nobility are destroyed and brings forth modern bureaucratic governance
Letting nobles run roughshod over your country is also a bad thing, like what happened with the Polish Commonwealth. You need a strong monarch to keep them in line while making themselves useful in civil service.
>Much easier to subvert by Revolutionaries, have you heard of Enlightened Despotism?
Also makes it easier to crack down on liberalism at home and abroad, as demonstrated by Tsar Nicholas I.
>Absolutism is Self-Destructive
Absolute monarchy has a 4000-year track record starting from the ancient Egyptians. Liberal democracy/constitutional monarchy has less than 400. It's obvious to me as to which system is more reliable.
>>72990370
Latinos be like
> GIB GOLD BACK YOU THIEF
> even countries that don't even have gold mines or any gold at all
Thats the best you'll get little leaf
>>72990612
2 of the biggest industrial centers in Spain are there. Madrid alone buttfucks Catalonia btw. And Madrid is just one of our provinces. We produce the most writers,polititians,scientists,etc to the country. Our food is the greatest,and we dont have 7% muslim population. Glorious Castilla never loses cuck
>>72990370
>They stole our gold n shiet
>It was a genocide
>>72979764
The princesses are cute.
>>72990370
Because the spanish were not complete faggots who killed off all the indians instead they took them as wife's.
>>72990649
>blame the conquistadors
>hired by the spanish crown
>>72990680
I dont think that there is any constitutional problem. In fact,lefties demanded that,so it would just be an owned
>>72979764
outstanding, maybe now EU will fuck off from us
No nationalist parties to unite the cultures of Hispania?
monarchical anarchy when
>>72990812
I guess it boils down to Russia having a different history and religion; the Orthodox Church has Ceasaropapism unlike Catholicism.
>>72990370
People complain about it every fucking day
People in spicmerica blame us for their shitty countries. It's been a fucking while since they're independent, but somehow we're to blame they're stupid mongrels who exist thanks to some colonists banging lots of hot natives.
>>72990703
I dont know if it could work. Companies need huge investments in capital this day. Singapure's model is kind of a mix betwee that and a free market. Maybe that is the solution.
>>72991129
No. Only separatists. Maybe Ciudadanos.
>>72991192
Pablo pls
Sounds like a based king.
If only every other monarch had balls.
>>72986729
You got it wrong, Jose. All the mestizos come from males cucking the beta out of the natives. Just look at what Mexico has done with the US. We have cucked our way to become the largest minority in America. We outcucked the niggers.
>>72990812
You got wrong something. A strong chirch and aristocracy is what keeps monarchy in check,thus not allowing to much power to arrive to the king's hand and create a clienteralist society. The conflict between the monarchy,the burguesy,the aristocracy and chirch is what made European countries so competitive compared to the rest of the world.
im studying abroad in madrid next spring
how can i learn about muh spanish heritage and avoid brown people
>>72991585
Out cucking negros is not difficult m8. They usually tend to cuck themselfs.
>>72991773
What do you want to learn? If you want to see family records,churches usually have very detailed info about heritage things,you just have to know where your family comes from. And you cant avoid brown people in Madrid. Still better than Barcelona tho
>>72991129
You just said it:
>nationalist party
>all the cultures
The only ones willing to unite Spain are federalists (which are all socialists or socialdemocrats) and shitty neo-francoists who hate everyone but want to force them to stay under the crown.
I'm a Catalan nationalist, but I'd agree to be part of an Iberian Confederation, even under the King. The Carlist Party actually wants that: a democratic socialist confederation under the monarchy (or not), which is pretty cool because they want to protect liberty above everything else, so they're not "those commies" like Podemos or CUP.
But Spain is a pretty fun country, so we will have some more stupid shit going on so our humorists can make some jokes and we can banter with our mates.
PP will probably win due to abstentionism and everything will go to hell due to more pressure from the EU because of da refug€€s
>>72990370
Americans herded the natives, slowly killing them, and then left them on reservations to die. took slaves, and treated them like shit and less than people. This is why their descendants hate them.
The British put their flag on everything and treated everyone like shit equally, this is why you don't see too many complaints.
The Spanish used genetic warfare. All the slaves and natives that didn't like them were murdered through guns and the common cold. Everyone else was raped or married. As much as you want to its hard to hate grandpa when he makes you feel proud for being his grandson, even though he raped grandma and killed her brothers and father.
>>72989815
You still have niggers
>>72991966
>What do you want to learn
Everything I can.
I can learn history and culture on my own, though I would like to know some interesting areas to research. right now I want to find out what the best (read: whitest) parts of Madrid are, how to bag wife-material spanish girls, and how to have fun without drinking/clubbing/degeneracy.
>>72980702
I've been saying this for awhile. If nothing else he can provide a stability that the others cannot.
>>72980702
Franco intended for power to return to the monarchy when he bought the farm but the king was a cuck.
>>72991585
>imblyin
chicanos are taking over cause mass immigration and breeding like rats with each other.
sure miscigenation is inevitable till a certain point, but u guys are surely not the first choice
>>72989815
Does anybody even count your Africans any longer? 3 million of them or what is it now?
>>72991585
Let's be honest here. The only reason your population is growing so fast, isn't that you are cucking anybody. You are just spilling over the border faster than anyone else can breed, and you are slightly less violent and self-destructive than niggers. Who tend to write themselves out of the gene pool before they even hit the age of majority. That, or severely limit their opportunity to create offspring by being locked up for the vast majority of their adult life.
If we took away the gibmedats from BOTH of you (we as in white people), you'd both stagnate and collapse demographically. Or hell, if we just gave an arbitrary child support assistance to EVERYONE in the country, you'd probably see white people have more children, and beat you out just by how many of us there are.
Don't worry though, your friends will be coming back after we build the wall. You'll have plenty of population to make your own country great again.
>>72991604
>A strong chirch and aristocracy is what keeps monarchy in check,thus not allowing to much power to arrive to the king's hand
The monarch is the representative of God's will on Earth, and his power over his realm should reflect God's power over Creation.
>The conflict between the monarchy,the burguesy,the aristocracy and chirch is what made European countries so competitive compared to the rest of the world.
Not really. Western Europe was a relative backwater region of the Old World until the Mongols and Timurids destroyed the rest of Eurasia and left a void in international trade for Westerners to fill.
>>72993267
>>72991604
I'd argue you were both wrong.
What made the west so competitive was a mix of homogeneous culture (in the form of Christianity, similar government types, and shared historical background [rome]), tempered by what was probably the near perfect mix of individuality and collectivism. If you stifle individuality too much, you end up with Ming China, who while large, and powerful, is unchanging and unable to keep up with progress. Too much collectivism, and you end up with soviet Russia where exceptionalism was not rewarded, while the incompetent were still entitled to their 'fair share'.
>>72993267
The fueros and traditional laws the king had to swear also came from God.
>>72993267
This is what British believe, they literally believe they are descended from Jew Jesus.
>>72995149
>>72990370
FUCKER SHOULD GIBE ME MONEY
PAY DEBS
>>72979764
If this guy makes Spain great again, I'll completely forgive the Hapsburg dynasty for being the fuckups that they are.
>>72995822
Jesus paid his denbts when he was on cross, but those in Israel and minion kings in Britain, Spain, Sweden...etc. still need to be nailed, only then we will have peace on this earth.
>>72993267
>Western Europe was a relative backwater region of the Old World...
this fckin meme....
smdh
>>72980474
>>72980702
>>72981427
this makes me wonder about Brazil monarchy..
going back to the roots would be nice
>>72997229
brazil was a really divided country at the time.
was basicly formed by portuguese aristocracy, mixed free workers and slaves, and the only participants in politics were richfags
now imagine a favela dindu saying "All hail to the Bourbon-Bragrança dinasty", would be the cringiest shit ever, because he have no relation with that reality whatsoever. they don't share the same history, nor race, nor money. NUFFIN
>>72985427
Ela é uma Fofinha
>>72997474
We exchanged kings with capitalists or more specifically still kings, since they are the shadow government and literally own countries where rich(Jews) hide their money and they still want to control everything, giving each other boss seats all over the world.
They gave the responsible for world war everything back anyway, so the war was for nothing and once again they import their cheap labour and flood Europe, like before world war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archduke_Felix_of_Austria
>In June 1998, in a joint action with his brother Carl Ludwig, Felix attempted to have the properties which were given to their ancestor Maria Theresa of Austria by her husband Francis I, Holy Roman Emperor restored to them after the properties had been taken from the Habsburg family by Adolf Hitler during the Anschluss.
>>72991604
Interestingly nearly all forms of Pre-Enlightenment society was clientelistic as both nobles, monarchs, and even the church preferred their relatives, supporters,and one of their own to rule.
>>72983528
>It is also funny that Spain produces so many libertarians in academia while they got no votes in the election.
That's always how it starts. If anything we're getting quite ahead of a big deal of Europe.
>>72996940
It really was, though. Medieval Europe may not have been in the "Dark Ages" as fedora tippers would have you believe, but it was still second-rate compared to the Roman Empire, the Abbasids, the Song, etc. In fact, Constantinople was Europe's economic and cultural capital until it was sacked by Catholics in 1204.
>>72997229
Why there are so many brazilian posters in pol that wants a monarchy there?
Is there some real movement or something like that with real support of the people or is it just delusional thinking?
>>73000291
Es la típica obsesión con la historia que tienen algunos perdedores que viven en países de tercera. Si quieres hacerte una idea de ello revisa cada post con una banderita española en este hilo.
>>73000291
They obviously need to get whipped, it's in their genes they can't simply be poor without a whip.
>>73000783
Wew lad
>>73000685
Ya, por eso le pregunto si tiene algún respaldo real toda esa historia de la monarquía o son pajas mentales como las que se están formando sobre las bondades de las monarquías absolutistas.
Ojalá en España tuviéramos meme magic como tiene los americanos con Trump, y toda la diarrea mental que gastamos pudiera focalizarse en avanzar, pero no termino de verlo.
i dint give a damn about the country, just go into civil war already.
ole tio a todo gas de lobenzo
