DEBATE:
How do we defeat Isis? Every time the world has faced a threat, they were eradicated by invading their homeland, defeating the leader or ignoring the idiotic rule of not touching women or children. Look, if you're the son of a Jihadist and your father is preaching 24/7 about this shit and the next day your father gets killed by a drone strike by Americans, then in 10 years you will try to avenge him and fight for the same cause.
Al qaeda - Americans kill the dads - kids are angry and sad
aprox 10 years later = "Nows our fucking chance to avenge our fathers===== ISIS!!"
>>72971184
>How do we defeat Isis?
with Al-nusra
>>72971184
japan was nuked because they trained the whole nation to do kamikaze attacks in case of an invasion. any paralells?
>>72971184
Modernize Muslims with technology and degeneracy.
>>72971184
>>72971328
But where do we fucking nuke?? They dont have a geographical location as their base of operation. The japs had Hiroshima and Nagasaki which were highly militarized etc.
>>72971455
All of it
>>72971455
start with Daniq. make sand glow in the dark and radiation so dangerous no one wants to go there for the next 10k years. only requires one nuke set to maximum fallout.
>>72971868
Dabiq, not Daniq
1.Plant some cells in ISIS and sabotage ISIS.
2.Capture ISIS members and pit them against each other in a gladiator arena for the public to watch
3.CRUSADE
Which option seems best /pol/?
>>72971184
Saudi-Arabia and Turkey invading Syria would be most efficient way but Pootin wont allow it and threatens west with nukes.
>>72971184
someone suggested spraying them with lsd. won't take much but the 12 hours after are all it needs to conquer them.
>>72971184
Cut off their funding. We damned sure know who is buying ISIS oil. We have control over the SWIFT system. We could stop that shit, but we aren't going to. You know why? Here's what the DOD had to say about that a few years ago:
https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pg.-291-Pgs.-287-293-JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf
>IF THE SITUATION UNRAVELS THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA (HASAKA AND DER ZOR), AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS TO THE OPPOSITION WANT IN ORDER TO ISOLATE THE SYRIAN REGIME, WHICH IS CONSIDERED THE STRATEGIC DEPTH OF THE SHIA EXPANSION (IRAQ AND IRAN).
>THE DETERIORATION OF THE SITUATION HAS DIRE CONSEQUENCES ON THE IRAQI SITUATION AND ARE AS FOLLOWS:
>THIS CREATES THE IDEAL ATMOSPHERE FOR AQI TO RETURN TO ITS OLD POCKETS IN MOSUL AND RAMADI, AND WILL PROVIDE A RENEWED MOMENTUM UNDER THE PRESUMPTION OF UNIFYING THE JIHAD AMONG SUNNI IRAQ AND SYRIA, AND THE REST OF THE SUNNIS IN THE ARAB WORLD AGAINST WHAT IT CONSIDERS THE ONE ENEMY, THE DISSENTERS. ISI COULD ALSO DECLARE AN ISLAMIC STATE THROUGH ITS UNION WITH OTHER TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS IN IRAQ AND SYRIA, WHICH WILL CREATE GRAVE DANGER IN REGARDS TO UNIFYING IRAQ AND THE PROTECTION OF ITS TERRITORY.
Translation:
>Fucking around in Syria will lead to ISIS
>Regional powers want a group like ISIS to destabilize Syria and oust Assad
>We went in and fucked around in Syria
>>72971184
Stop supporting them and start supporting Bashar al assad. Make deal with russia. Give Syria to the Russians in exchange for Ukraine.
>>72972380
I did LSD for the first time over the weekend. I can confirm this strategy.
>>72971184
Unconditional surrender.
Bombing after bombing after bombing.
Then some more bombing after they've said, "we surrender."
I will not allow them to sneak off in takbir mode. I wanna write stories about us as they reform their religion.
>>72972690
absolutely not
Assad is a war criminal and Putin is a thug.
I'd say carpet bomb them but my country just fucked up any chance of that happening.
>>72972756
*want them to
>>72972796
>>72971184
>How do we defeat Isis?
You don't just leave them alone and expel every muslim from europe ,and expel everyone else who has ancestry from a country that's majority muslims for good measure , isis will either thrive or it will fall , but it should not a of any concern to any non muslim , this one should be left to muslims and muslims alone , they should be free to choose how they want to run their society.
>>72972690
Why would we want Ukraine? And I think it's too late at this point to support Assad, though there is a reason to have strong man dictators in that region. It's what is needed to keep the population in check.
>>72972531
Hawala =/= SWIFT. it's like raghead bitcoin. nuke or lsd, lsd would be cheaper. 2 pounds would be enough for agent caleidoscope.
>>72973080
Yeah, but that oil is moving to players outside of the region, and the transactions are going to be in US Dollars, otherwise, the US would have reacted very, very poorly to them and we would have bombed the shit out of them. There will be interactions with SWIFT at some point. We're letting it happen.
>>72972899
I am dissappointed in you, "kebab remover"
>>72971184
the western powers love ISIS hence why they are allowed to exist for now
>>72973345
they have been stunted. apparently some micro crude smuggling ops up north, otherwise for consumption in the 'caliphate'. regular bomb runs on money houses and limited attacks focused on the infrastructure around the wells has done a good job. but now it's time for RAID of some kind.
>>72971271
Lets defeat a terrorist organisation with another terrorist organisation. That was never tryed. Oh wait....
>>72973345
they are making money on forex by tunneling their cash via hawala in to iraqi banks and back.
>>72973416
implying you are not kebab remover too
Why would i want muslims to die in their own lands ? Why would i care , they can do whatever they want at home , as long as they are not in eruope i don't give a shit
>>72971184
>How do we defeat Isis?
stop funding, arming, and supporting them?
just a thought.
OR, have them turn against their masters in Tel Aviv, and sic them on the Israelis. then, you'd see something done about them.
but, they have never said boo to the Israelis, although one would imagine Israel should be their ultimate arch-enemy, and is right there in their neighborhood.
go figure
>>72971184
Reclamation of Europe when?
Also Swede that isn't brainwashed
>>72971184
We need to stop using cold war fucking policies when dealing with these threats.
We need to use ww2 policies on them and treat every man woman and child as a combatant or means for production. Once they have been reduced to 20% of their current population and they themselves surrender without condition, will there be peace in the middle east.
The current strategy is working mate. Raqqa will fall, perhaps by december, perhaps next year but it will fall. the real question is how to beat islamic extremism, and it can only be done from within. ISIS are pussies. they can kill civilians and rape children, sure, but when recruits are tweeting your position in the middle of a battle, against the iraqis (lul), which you then lose, the writing is on the wall. iv literally seen airstrikes directed at isis from fucking 4CHAN.
>>72972899
no way mate. the saudis and qataris love isis and piss their money all over them so no, this one shouldnt "be left for muslims and muslims alone".
>>72971271
Nusra are the real enemy. this petty war against social media addicts is only the beginning. the real end-game was always "Al-qaeda, the country"-which is exactly what syria will become after the inevitable partition between """"""""""pro-western, moderate secular rebels"""""""""" and assad.
>>72973996
there we go, thats my burger.
>>72973753
And we could stop that. If they're in forex, that's a point outside of hawala. The US wanted an ISIS like group in the region because we (the government) want Assad gone. The government simply cannot come out and say "yeah, we want this Assad guy gone, so we helped create a boogieman organization and filled it with actual boogiemen this time." We knew that they were shipping oil into Turkey and did nothing about it until Russia started hitting those convoys. The US government is complicit with ISIS.
>>72974140
>been there, done that (/s4s/)
>>72974162
may be right, but they apparently do make money with exchange deals via iraqi banks.
>>72974162
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/12180652/Islamic-State-earning-millions-by-playing-the-stock-market.html
>>72974150
Its pretty much fucking true.
Look at the Japan during the early to mid 1900's. They were fanatically devoted to their leader, the only reason they stopped was because we went full total fucking war on their asses and Didn't give a shit, then they surrendered.
>>72971184
memes
>>72974455
>>72974588
And the next question that should be asked is where is the NSA with all of this going on?
>>72971184
How about solving the entire fucking piece of shit region?
Either pic related, or one final crusade that retakes the original Christian lands once and for all.
>>72973778
It's in their nature and nurture to gi to Europe and pillage and rape. So, no, no deportation or anything. We could deport them all ONLY IF someone then nukes the shit out of the Middle East so the oil becomes unusable and thus we remove the Greater Israel movement with just a couple of A-bombs.
>>72971271
> f-fund us sempai!
>>72974339
i'd take 5 salt of the earth 4chan NEET memewarriors over a battalion of goat fucking sand-people tuskan-raider looking warriors of god who place no value on their own lives or the sum total of human civilisation
spoiler - we aren't going to beat them
muslim boys will eternally stream into the levant, even more so now the global economy is in the shitter. These countries have 5 and 6 children, and the mothers are mad as a meat axe, filling their kids with jihaddi heaven
eventually we will lose, and withdraw
place belongs to sand niggers after all
>>72975812
very easy
just stop funding them
Turkey and Saudi Arabia are funding ISIS. They are also close allies to the US and Turkey is even in NATO, an alliance at war with ISIS. The situation is a clusterfuck of various interests with Turkey being the biggest obstacle. Make no mistake, Erdogan is a snake. He has schemed and plotted for this to happen. Even now he plots for the downfall of Syria and Iraq in the hope that the Kurds will be mass-murdered in the process while also becoming the sole reliable power for the west to make business with.
>>72971271
>this is what erdogan and his roach cabinet actually believe
New crusade?
The armies of the cross, led by Emperor Trump and Tsar Putin invade through Turkey - offer the sandniggers a choice, convert or die - the invasion force splits in half after Saudi Arabia is taken, one goes through North Africa, the other to Pakistan.
Peace on earth is achieved.
>>72972796
Fuck of Shillary, srsly
>>72976526
>clusterfuck
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This is true. We have US DOD backed rebels fighting US CIA backed rebels, and that's just the beginning of the clusterfuckedness.
>>72977275
DEUS VULT
>>72975373
>nsa
>hawala
no chance against radhead bitcoin. it is totally paper based and informal.
>>72975812
>meme magic vs isis could make a difference
>>72976526
>ooops, that REV went north
>>72977328
hello /x/
>>72971946
I like options 2 and 3, so those.
>>72971184
From the US perspective:
>Stop supporting rebel groups in Syria
>Support the Syrian Army instead
>Increase the number of troops in Iraq.
That's about it.
>>72971946
ISIS is just one of many symptoms. You have to go after the root of the problem: Islam.
iv always fantasised a war of terror against them...
>be me, ISanon
>wake up one day, pray and shit in hole in the sand after raping 4 year old yazidi
>hear news that top cleric in the capital of the caliphate is dead
>he hung himself, leaving a note saying that god came to him and told him everything isis have done is an offense to allah (easily arranged by double agents or spec forces)
>religious crisis
>infighting
>too stupid to see whats going on
and so on. they cannot handle these sorts of attacks. play them, play their stupid religious worldview, demonstrate their prophecy is lies.
>>72971271
Never.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-zaBLf1en8&list=PLglPQHsv33Vw7EbRzttods7QZOeEsBgND&index=77
>>72978041
you are right. japan memed themselves to safety after their first national was executed
Why the hell we should do that?
>Paint muslims as evil
>Makes European Muslims into terrorists
>Fucks up man who declares himself the enemy of the west
Dont be a leftie who cares about morality in geopolitics.
>>72978041
https://reason.com/blog/2016/03/28/cia-backed-syrian-rebels-fighting-pentag
>
But Pentagon-backed rebels and CIA-backed rebels in Syria have increasingly found themselves fighting each other, as the Los Angeles Times reports, with multiple skirmishes between Aleppo and the Turkish-Syrian border in recent days. And Pentagon funding of rebel groups had been suspended after U.S.-trained rebels handed their weapons over to an Al-Qaeda affiliate last September.
>>72971184
Stop financing, training and equipping them.
>>72971184
Build a wall on the Bosporus
