spearheaded by people such as Bernie Sanders.
Why?
Because I think his anti free trade, pro 15 dollars an hour minimum wage, pro free public college education, pro infrastructure investment, anti war and anti low taxes for the rich stand, actually appeals to me a lot more than the far right or populist right wing of the Trumps and Cruzes of this world.
Also, there really is no Trump equivalent in Germany, but several Bernie Sanders equivalents (Linkspartei). It is also socially more accepted to vote for the Linkspartei than the extreme right (AfD).
The Linkspartei pretty much has Bernie Sanders policies + a lot more socialist policies than him in various ways. They are even red pilled on migrants, saying there has to be a limit on refugees.
>>72966623
>implying free shit isn't populism
kill yourself famalam
you will never defeat Islam with that weak ass attitude
At least they are real communist and not some green hippies.
You do that hans, I'm sure supporting commies will fix all your problems.
Fucking moron
>>72966623
Excelent.
>>72966623
>falling for the left and right meme
>twice
Despite that, most of the Linkspartei members are crazy in their heads. You should visit a few of their meetings and have a look on what you're about to vote.
>>72966851
>At least they are real communist and not some green hippies.
Exactly my sentiment. The cucked "leftist" greens who aren't lefty at all, just cucked, I could never vote for.
But the Linkspartei is for real, they really want socialist policies. And personally, I think in the next years, some system has to be implemented that succeeds the currently failed globalist capitalist shit that does not work.
>>72967555
Well..the last time they was in power they killed 300 people.
But if that dont scares you
>>72966874
>You do that hans, I'm sure supporting commies will fix all your problems.
Why should it not fix our problems? Let me know what problems it cannot fix? There was pretty much no economic crimes in the GDR (such as bank robberies or burglaries) and pretty much no organized crime. Also, real socialist societies are extremely suspicious of foreigners and want a CLOSED door policy. Look at North Korea, they don't take anyone in, even some crazy Americans who wanted to go there, are then just imprisoned and put in hard labor camps.
>>72967723
>Well..the last time they was in power they killed 300 people.
>But if that dont scares you
300 people? No, that really doesn't scare me. More people die in a week on the roads or from smoking in a single state of Germany.
>>72966623
>saying there has to be a limit on refugees
Protip: Leftist parties always said that to the stupid goyim, but vote against any such measure in the European parliament
>>72966851
They will be real communists when they drown Muslims in the sea, blow up mosques and start killing Jews.
That's what Stalin has done. As a Stalinist I'm offended by this fake "communism".
>>72967555
> the currently failed globalist capitalist shit that does not work.
> Greece, Spain, Italy, fucked because of excessive government spending
> the Left blames capitalism anyways
kek
>>72966851
They ARE green hippies
They vote in block with the greens every time in the EU parliament
>>72968167
But I want to be rich anon. And your stupid ideologies conflict with my own hopes and dreams.
>fake communism
Communism will never work as long as people like me exist. Is that your master plan? Murder everyone who doesn't follow your ideas?
Fucking psychopath.
>>72966623
>Year 25 after Merkel's downfall.
>Die Linke rules Germany with an iron fist.
>The economy is completly nationalized. Unemployement and homeless are abolished.
>Germany has left the EU, and follows a strong policy of national independence.
>>72968276
>> Greece, Spain, Italy, fucked because of excessive government spending
You do know those countries are in trouble because of the failed globalist capitalist shit and society was doing ok during their socialist decades (Spain as a dictatorship under Franco, Greece as a miltary dictatorship, Portugal as a socialist dictatorship and Italy as a failed state run by the mafia?). Only once they opened up their markets and got on the "mooooar" debt and free trade bandwaggon, did they get fucked up.
>>72968747
Yes, we can only hope.
>>72968747
One day it will come back, better then before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7xheqogpJU
>>72968543
>Is that your master plan? Murder everyone who doesn't follow your ideas?
Worked for Stalin. "death solves all problems, no man - no problem".
You either start being altruistic collectivist or a bullet will turn you into one.
Communism goes against human nature, but human is the most adaptive being on the planet. If you put people in circumstances where communism equals survival, they will change their very nature.
I would give you 30 seconds in a Stalinist state before your body stops wanting riches and starts adopting communist values.
>>72966623
>a yuro is in favor of being coddled by the government
Color me surprised.
>>72968543
>Murder everyone who doesn't follow your ideas?
Better to suppress you, cut off your free speech, don't let you leave the country and if need be, imprison you.
If you make it past the wall, you can live in a capitalist society in Poland or China etc. But first you need to get past the guards.
>>72966623
>it is also socially more acceptable to vote for x instead of y
I want Germany to burn
>>72968832
Those socialist regimes ended because they could not sustain their enormous spending without international credit organizations lending even more money
They are not having a competitive crisis, which blaming capitalism would imply, they ate having a DEBT crisis
How exactly do you blame free markets economics for a debt crisis? Do you even under what a debt crisis is?
>>72968832
This. Spain is on the wreck because the EU made us close our industry and restrict our agriculture in exchange of bribes, so french and german corporations could sell stuff here in the name of free trade, leaving half our young people unemployed.
>>72969077
Why do you imply that the wish that society takes care of all people is "something bad"?
Yes, I want the government to lead society, make sure there is no unemployment, no poverty, no economic crime, no housing shortage and no war. Tell me what's wrong with that?
>>72966623
Should you be worried about getting gangraped by refugees, kraut?
Will post more DDR stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJspW36mCWs
>>72968923
The human may be forced to behave in anti-biological ways, but the laws of mathematics that selected those biological behaviors in men don't give a damn.
Once you shut down price discovery mechanisms your economy is fucked up.
Of course, like every other single socialist government, you will blame the scarcity of very basic products on the evil capitalist boogieman 10 000 miles away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKQqh7KRpEc
>>72969245
>EU made us close our industry and restrict our agriculture in exchange of bribes
Sounds like government intervention to me
>>72966623
I like the lefties but I'm seriously afraid they'll get infected by SJW cancer to a point where I won't be able to bring myself to vote for them anymore. I wish there was a way to prevent this shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mG3BvkT6YQ
>>72969190
>Those socialist regimes ended because they could not sustain their enormous spending without international credit organizations lending even more money
Not the case. Those socialist countries didn't actually have access to foreign debt, because they were deemed to not be credit worthy.
>>72969190
>They are not having a competitive crisis, which blaming capitalism would imply, they ate having a DEBT crisis
Yes, now, after spending like drunken sailors AFTER they turned towards "democracy" and capitalism.
You do know that the former Soviet Republics such as the Baltic states or Rumania or Bulgaria had 0 debt when the Soviet Union broke up and that they still got the lowest debt levels in Europe, right?
>>72969190
>How exactly do you blame free markets economics for a debt crisis? Do you even under what a debt crisis is?
I blame the globlalist capitalist system that allowed corrupt, capitalist governments in quasi-democracies to binge spend based on foreign debt. That wasn't possible in socialist systems.
>>72969530
>More like foreign intervention. The industries which were closed were mostly public owned in the first place.
>>72969245
>This. Spain is on the wreck because the EU made us close our industry and restrict our agriculture in exchange of bribes, so french and german corporations could sell stuff here in the name of free trade, leaving half our young people unemployed.
Exactly. Spanish businesses were generally less competitive than German, British or French businesses. Once the Spanish market was opened up to foreign businesses, Spanish domestic companies just died and with it all the manufacturing and other jobs.
Uhhhhh, isn't free trade and capitalism great? Rich and powerful countries with great economies do well and less competitive countries get fucked up with millions of unemployed and poor there, which, due to their immobility in a globalist world as a result of language and skills barriers, have to stay in their shithole, while the government loads on debt to repay German and French and British lenders which get richer and richer?
Brave new world, comrade, brave new world.
>>72966623
The women in OP's picture is Sarah Wagenknecht. She is a member of the socialist german party "The Linkspartei", which is the successor party of the Eastern german communist party SED. They ruled the failed eastern german soviet puppet republic for decades, which finally collapsed in 1989/1990.
Sarah Wagenknecht is a chavista and promoted Venezualan 21st century socialism in public german television for many years. She wants to establish a Hugo Chavez style socialism in Germany. We all know that Venezuela turned into a socialist failed state too.
You can ignore OPs opinion.
As a german i also has to apologize for his thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeNr7utZ0bA
>>72969344
>Should you be worried about getting gangraped by refugees, kraut?
I am. That is why I am for socialism. In socialism, gangrapist won't come to Germany, because which reputable drug dealing gangrapist wants to live in a socialist society... and all the existing gangrapists we have would move to France or Sweden or the UK or the US, doing their capitalist drug dealing there.
>>72966623
East Germany is still the basest zone of Germany. Good luck comrades
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsmeOEEyVyg
This thread need some cool music an tanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QCwj9RTN4Y
>>72969847
you can't apologize for something you didn't do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4sTdErZx3c
>>72969847
>They ruled the failed eastern german soviet puppet republic for decades,
You don't know anything about the GDR, if you believe it was a "Soviet puppet Republic". Go and read up on the 1980s relationship between the GDR and the Soviet leadership.
>>72969847
>She wants to establish a Hugo Chavez style socialism in Germany. We all know that Venezuela turned into a socialist failed state too.
Because Venezuela didn't go for it the right way. What we need is the Bernie Sanders and Sarah Warenknecht ideas combined.
Not to mention that the Linkspartei never mentioned Venezuela ever.
>>72970016
>East Germany is still the basest zone of Germany. Good luck comrades
Thank you, comrade. Tous les travailleurs unissent!
>>72970133
>tfw you will never serve in the Osttruppen
Feels bad mann
>>72966623
>I need to vote for who's more socially acceptable.
This is why you should have no right to vote. Fuck off, you sjw. Voting is about making the best choice, not about voting for the choice every one guilts you into.
>>72969611
By 1989 the public debt of USSR was $ 55 billion dollars, Yugoslavia already had an astonish 18 billion in 1989's dollars
To claim that socialist governments didn't enter into debt contracts is absurd
the trend of debt for southern european countries was already in the up-side all the way back to 1980
it is absurd to claim that because a government has free elections it means it is a capitalist government
There can be free elections without a capitalist government (and the result is the same, see Venezuela), and capitalist systems without free elections (Pinochet)
Your whole argument is that capitalism equals corruption is even more laughable (Venezuela, China, and many other countries with extremely regulated economies attest to that) and a complete fantasy based on a silly idea that the free market somehow corrupts an otherwise pure human angel
>>72969929
> which reputable drug dealing gangrapist wants to live in a socialist society
> what is Venezuela, the crime capital of the Americas?
>>72967736
>the basic shit from the government stores isn't worth stealing
>anything valuable is from the black market, and thus wouldn't be reported to police
>government has a tight hold on what's reported to the public anyway
>there was no burglaries, see, it was a superior society!
kill yourself t bh familia
>>72970506
>This is why you should have no right to vote. Fuck off, you sjw.
You have no fucking clue about Germany.
Just get yourself a super-sized fast food burger and fries and soda menu and get fatter and then jerk off to Trump saying "Mexico will pay for that wall" and "Trickle down economics works, so we can cut taxes for all".
America and Germany are nothing alike. The Linkspartei is authoritarian socialist.
>>72970203
>You don't know anything about the GDR, if you believe it was a "Soviet puppet Republic". Go and read up on the 1980s relationship between the GDR and the Soviet leadership.
GDR was a failed state and a soviet puppet. It collapsed alongside with the soviet system.
>Because Venezuela didn't go for it the right way.
Its not funny anymore :3
>What we need is the Bernie Sanders and Sarah Warenknecht ideas combined.
Bernie Sanders is as much of a socialist as the french president Hollande. He isnt. Hollande never turned the french economy into a socialist planned economy. Neither would Sanders. But Wagenknecht and other Linkspartei members promoted Chavez' economics openly. She did it even when she was head of her party. So of course they did.
>>72966623
The United States has always been a center-right (or 'far right' if you're a Yuropeein') country.
That kind of populism-nationalism works well here because even most blue-collar Democrats can tear up at the National Anthem.
>>72969333
Whatever makes you feel better, but it still requires stealing from some people to give to other people who didn't earn it. "Society" doesn't exist, people exist. And people pay for that "free shit", at the point of a gun.
>>72970686
There were no burglaries and no economic crime. Fact.
Just because Bulgaria didn't have as good a society as the GDR, doesn't change that. Your current capitalist society 25 years after the end of socialism, isn't any less corrupt or better anyway.
>>72970718
>The Linkspartei is authoritarian socialist.
KEK
they are faggot progressive and you know it
http://www.queer.de/detail.php?article_id=20212
They will sing happy songs as Ahmed fucks your butthole
>>72970737
>but it still requires stealing from some people to give to other people who didn't earn it.
It is called taxes, not stealing. Now go to bed, Timmy, it shows that you are 8 years old.
>>72970890
>they are faggot progressive and you know it
What is faggot progressive about them?
You do know the Left Party voters generally choose from three parties, right? Left Party, AfD and NPD.
>>72966623
"""""""""""refugees"""""""""""
>>72970737
> The United States has always been a center-right (or 'far right' if you're a Yuropeein') country.
No one in Europe uses "far right" as meaning open markets
All the free-market parties (LibDem, FDP, Cos) are called centrists
Only retarded lefists with an agenda that liberalism and nationalism are the same thing
>>72971020
didn't you even read the link?
They are full on trannie, gay, faggotry, refugees, etc
Do you even read their statements or actually pay attention to their voting record in the European Parliament? They voted exactly the same as the Greens do
> Left Party, AfD and NPD.
Bullshit. Source or GTFO
>>72970395
Actually, I have served in the NVA (11 MSD, MSR 18 "Otto Schlag" in Weißenfels). I am lieutenant of the NVA out of service and would never lift a finger for the Bundeswehr.
>>72970959
Wait, so what do You call the taking of something that doesn't belong to you by the threat of violence? I must be using the wrong word.
>>72971142
You are correct, but in this case I'm not referring to free markets but to the deep strain of nationalism/jingoism in American politics and history.
>>72971303
Heck even a quick twitter search shows that they are full on pro-Ahmed
> Refugees are not the problem, the Germans are
https://twitter.com/dielinke/status/710894355054239750
thinking that they are some sort of stalinists is extremely delusional
anyone thinking they are must see a doctor
>>72970860
>our society was so good we had to use force to keep people from leaving
>so prosperous we have to receive a subsidy from our capitalist counterpart to this day
it was the same shit, the "there was no crimes", "capitalists gave away our industry" spiel is something you'll hear from our senile commies too
my previous suggestion stands
>>72971384
Wew lad, how old are you?
I served in the BW in the PzGrenBtl 401 tho
>>72966623
You are part of the problem. In 20 years when you're wondering what happened to your life and how things got this bad, know that it started here. Know that you made the conscious choice to support emotion over reason.
>>72971303
>> Left Party, AfD and NPD.
>Bullshit. Source or GTFO
http://www.theeuropean.de/wolfram-weimer/10674-aehnlichkeiten-bei-linke-und-afd
Now GTFO.
A lot of us don't want to become like Europe tbqh.
the filthy dems might but they are faggots and should move to Europe.
>>72971658
>>our society was so good we had to use force to keep people from leaving
Republikflucht was a crime. Why? Because we paid for people's schooling and university. If there was some system that they left and then paid back the state for getting all this free education, healthcare etc., fine. You could actually ask for a permit to leave the GDR for good.
>>so prosperous we have to receive a subsidy from our capitalist counterpart to this day
That is AFTER socialism was abolished and only because of the global, capitalist shit system.
20 years after the GDR fell, East Germans by majority still said the GDR was positive. East Germans were fucked in the ass by the global capitalist shit system. http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/studie-mehrheit-der-ostdeutschen-sieht-ddr-positiv-a-632751.html
>>72971866
What a bizarre jump of logic
> The Left loses voters to AfD
> it means that Left voters generally choose from Afd, NPD or The Left
What it implies is that the Left effectively lost votes to the Afd, not that they remained left voters, or even that left voters choose between those 3 parties as a tendency
>>72971772
>You are part of the problem. In 20 years when you're wondering what happened to your life and how things got this bad, know that it started here. Know that you made the conscious choice to support emotion over reason.
What?
I see it every day here in Brandenburg what capitalism did to East Germany. Horrible. People are a LOT worse of than 25 years ago... despite all the shit money the West Germans handed us. Unemployment is high, people move away, we have ghost towns, crime, poverty, people who are employed have no free time any more and the youth is degenerate and cucked.
Yes, thanks capitalism, great job fucking up East Germany.
>>72972106
Yeah, that is why so many millions of East Germans were so hurried to leave for the West
because it was all prosperous happiness until socialism came crashing down for no reason whatsoever (evil capitalist magic?)
> East Germans by majority still said the GDR was positive
> what is nostalgia?
>>72970718
Yet you spend your whole OP comparing Germany to America.
Hypocrite.
Once Germany was full of men, now it's full of manginas like you who's cry themselves to sleep at night wondering if their neighbors still like them because of the way they vote.
Cry baby hypocrite mangina, go prep your bull.
>>72971679
49. I was UaZ (Unteroffizier auf Zeit) and was discharged as a second lieutenant.
After a Course for officers at the university i became Lieutenant - and the GDR went down in flames.
>>72972520
>Yeah, that is why so many millions of East Germans were so hurried to leave for the West
Million as in thousands, right? 99% of East Germans never attempted any Republikflucht. The people who fled were usually artists, homosexuals, academics who thought they can make more money in the West etc. Workers did not want to leave... for a reason, because after the GDR fell, they were fucked in the ass by capitalism.
>>72972805
Germany is fucking cucked because of globalist capitalists like Merkel. Merkel is Obama's labdog who loves TTIP and open borders.
Go figure.
>>72972106
Capitalism didn't ruin anything, it just confronted us with the reality of what the industries built under socialism were worth - jack shit. Of course it was nicer to be blissfully unaware.
All the socialist regime amounts to is a poor investment of capital and two generations' productive lives. It's what happens when you build enterprises without regard for profit and the global market.
