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> But in the face of these obstacles, blows, intrigues and persecutions, assaulting us from every direction, having this terrible feeling of aloneness, having nowhere to turn, we opposed all this with a firm determination to die.
>"The death team" is the expression of these inner feelings of the legionary youth throughout the whole country, to receive death; its determination to go forward, through death.
-Corneliu Zelea Codreanu
>"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
-Obi Wan Kenobi
ᛉ - PROPAGANDA
https://youtu.be/OItXB8FowyI
https://youtu.be/sn4mVDtqi7g
https://youtu.be/kzIRG525l6s
https://youtu.be/8ymEKiY1UR8
https://youtu.be/hHxYEC4zNTU
https://youtu.be/44vzMNG2fZc
https://youtu.be/0TX7PvOYEj4
ᛉ - WHITE GENOCIDE
>Endgame - White Genocide
https://youtu.be/uMfk5UeGw4E
>The Jewish-Bolshevik Decimation of the Russian People
https://youtu.be/DC8GLciF-5s
>Putin confirms, 85% Jews behind Bolshevism
https://youtu.be/j6p1zxKnDeM
>Miscegenation illegal in Israel
https://youtu.be/5NdQXOPARWI
>Jews push immigration to white nations
https://youtu.be/XpnYpQaHAuc
>Barbara Lerner Spectre
https://youtu.be/oZ1BRHBErH8
>Jewish Supremacism
https://youtu.be/w1SmKle95MU
>Noel Ignatiev
https://youtu.be/BOyBO-ts20c
>BLM preaching white genocide
https://youtu.be/RC-Cqkq6zWc
>Sarkozy on forced misecegenation
https://youtu.be/I8yaiN6ew_g
>Hitler's First Speech as Chancellor
https://youtu.be/Rtpn5QYP5Ig
>Hitler Honors Germany's International Army
https://youtu.be/8ra-ChcOiuU
>Hitler Speech Censored in US
https://youtu.be/qwS6HtMKNOAz
>Ben Freedman on World Zionist wars
https://youtu.be/x8OmxI2AYV8
>The Allies caused the war
https://youtu.be/MejbBsSAP8I
>Economic Plan of NSDAP
https://youtu.be/pKnFN8P21-0
>Black National Socialists supporting Hitler
https://youtu.be/xGyJrMdwDv4
>>72962477
Maybe drop the Obi-Wan quote next time.
>>72962551
Thought it was funny. Trying to redo this general. All suggestions welcome.
>>72962477
>Obi Wan Kanobi
>>72962666
ok 6 trips decided it, brb
>>72962618
It's bizzare and doesn't involve nationalism though.
>"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
-Obi Wan Kenobi
Autism in its purest form
>>72962477
Get your filthy Kraut invention of ethnic nationalism out of here
>>72962477
Been waiting for one of these threads to start. Hopefully it doesn't die off in two days.
>>72962744
Fuck you Paki.
>>72962736
>doesn't involve nationalism though.
>>72962738
>>72962666
Come on now, don't sound this new.
>>72962784
Like I said, I'm trying to redesign to be more inclusive of all nationalism, without losing to European identity flavor. All suggestions, news, etc welcome. Help me re-create this so we can unite the Hard Right wingers on this board.
>>72962744
Nothing is more pathetic than Civic Nationalists willing to sell their own country to foreigners because they fell for the equality meme.
>>72962744
Fuck off, roach. This is for all nationalists.
>>72963137
Civic Nationalism confirmed for Cuckservatism.
This is mostly for us Yuros, but maybe Murricans have an opinion too.
What do you guys think of european pan-nationalism ?
I know some groups like Generation Identity are in favor of it, but do you see an eventual second version of the EU that's more centered on defending Europe's interests (and the European people's interests) instead of just being an unified platform for foreign lobbies and globalist agents ?
>>72963137
Did you forget what Mussolini said?
When can us of Dutch blood be unified once more?
>>72963339
I think a version of the EU would just set it up for failure unless you made sure the globalists stay out. Also each culture of Europe's countries is different and should stay that way to preserve it.
>>72963447
When you save your diaspora. Dump the refugees and save your kin.
>>72963339
>What do you guys think of european pan-nationalism ?
We've discussed this quite a bit in the previous /nsg/ threads. I think the general consensus has been that that was the concept of Aryanism, that Europe has one shared fundamental identity, but people retain the right to more specific national identifcation. Without European identity, we fall to hegemonic cultures like Islam. But individual nations have the right to self determination.
>>72963339
pure delusion designed to weaken us for economic and cultural penetration by ameria and russia
the future of europe is an islamic reich and there is nothing we can do about it. we will be like iran in 100 years, but also probably a significant power and not just a vassal
>>72962477
Hey guys, did you see what the Atomwaffen crew set up in Boston?
http://www.necn.com/news/new-england/Neo-Nazi-Posters-Found-on-Boston-Universitys-Campus-378033771.html
They have a really good article website as well.
http://ropeculture.org/
>>72963076
I will do what I can, maybe we can draw in Asian nationalists too in order to bolster our numbers.
>>72963733
>pure delusion designed to weaken us for economic and cultural penetration by ameria and russia
How do you figure that?
>>72963837
Make Earth Great Again
Demographically, you guys are trying to win a losing battle. LMAO
>>72963837
Also does anyone know if there are any leaders from New Zealand, South Korea, or Finland that can go on this picture?
Canada and Mexico I won't even bother looking for.
>>72963733
>the future of europe is an islamic reich and there is nothing we can do about it
One one hand, it's true that western Europe is far gone, but on the other hand, if I always listened to /pol/, I'd have gone innawoods over a dozen times already over false alerts.
General polls are showing (at least in France) that people are strongly becoming hostile (or at least weary) of Islam.
Unless there's an extra dose of shilling and they manage to get a beachhead by establishing a party or a parliament group, I doubt we're that far gone...
>>72963930
Mostly concerned about Eurasia and the west desu, fuck Africa.
>>72963841
nationalist europe is a divided europe. hitler would have unified us through conquest and assimilated europeans into an aryan germanic culture and racial backbone. there can be no inter europe conquest anymore, this cant happen again, fascism is done. the only way to unite europeans under one solid culture race and identity that cant be used by you is to drown us all in islamic shitskins that hate america and hate jews, and are also extremely militaristic and socially conservative. will be islamized and arabized into a single empire.
its not a good outcome but its reality
>>72964053
For New Zealand.
>>72963373
Mussolini himself hated liberal humanist doctrine and regularly attacked egalitarianism.
Read the Doctrine of Fascism and listen to ALL of his speeches. Not just that one speech in '34 where he contradicted himself (Which was in retaliation to what the Nazis had said about the Italian race. You forget Mussolini and Hitler were not always friends).
You'll get a better grasp of the man's beliefs. He was by no means a Civic Nationalist and said that "Fascism was born... out of a profound, perennial need of this our Aryan and Mediterranean race".
>>72962477
Stop making all nationalists look like idiots by pretending you faggots are leaders of it
Meme Master Molyjew does it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW5USVpTnJA
>>72963339
Current incarnation of EU is rotten to the core.
Cooperation and mutual gain breeds success. Subjugation and forced creation of an EU super-state will only breed resentment. There's also too much power in a single institution with not enough safe-guards. The entire migrant crisis is the EU's fault for crying out loud.
One day, if we all converge culturally, ideologically and economically, unification might be the next step, but that is clearly not now and clearly not for a long time to come.
We are already united in the way that matters: Defense. If you think NATO is just about keeping out russia think again. It's the collective defense of Western civilization.
>>72964367
Noone claimed to be the leader of it, Schlomo.
>>72963837
>maybe we can draw in Asian nationalists too
I want to say "all nationalists are welcome", because logically, all nationalists are allies. As long as they aren't pushing civic nationalism above all, and are REAL nationalists for their countries, that's something I can support. I have no nationalist enemies in theory.
>>72964367
>making all nationalists look like idiots by pretending you faggots are leaders of it
That doesn't even make any sense, what the fuck are you even talking about?
>>72963993
>Says 60% white
>>72964535
There are plenty of Asian nations that haven't fallen for the Civic Nationalism meme (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan) so we should be fine.
>>72964414
Vox Day again? Vox is interesting. What exactly are his politics?
>>72964873
Yeah, ironically, the asians are in the lead by having "Japan for Japanese", "Korea for Koreans". As much as people like to shit on asian countries, we need to achieve what most of them already have. And they need to defend what they already have.
>>72964475
Yeah, I agree about the safeguards, we've been proven often enough that EU officials bear no kind of responsibility towards the European people.
>>72964893
I'm watching it right now, he just said "I'm a nationalist. Nationalist for all people, everyone should have their home etc."
Also interesting:
He lives in Italy (I think), and he says the young people he talks to are extremely right wing and "racist", the example he gives is that they were excited to have "Soldiers of Odin" in their area.
>>72964535
Also we should focus on drawing in white South African nationalists so we can restore South Africa to its rightful state.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/579424/Europe-overrun-white-South-Africans-right-to-return
>>72965603
I think European powers need to come together and acknowledge that they are still responsible for the white European settlers in Africa.
We can begin by helping them form their own countries in Africa, and if they want, allow them to rejoin the homeland.
We can't turn our backs on our own people, regardless of where they live.
>>72965836
Have you seen what European powers think of Christians in the middle-east ?
I don't think European countries in Africa will ever happen again. There's only going to be well-defended autonomous settlements, but countries ?
That would draw deep concern from bodies of government.
>>72965836
I agree, if they choose to stay they should have a nation where they feel safe (even if just a small one) and it should be protected and developed by their mother countries.
>>72966128
I was of course speaking under a hypothetical scenario where major European powers uncucked themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orania,_Northern_Cape
A situation where say European major powers helped to make Orania a country would be more than welcome, and a step in the correct direction in righting wrongs in Africa.
>>72966128
With enough pressure from the populace these European governments can be made to see reason.
>>72965603
>restore South Africa to its rightful state.
Is there any real hope of that? We had a thread yesterday talking about Saffer 'right of return' to Europe. Which one is more plausible?
>>72962477
Esau, I respect what you're doing.
There are going to be some determined to do wrong by their country but there are plenty of people who will value your common sense.
Although we come from rival nations, the bond of loyalty to our blood and love of our traditions inspire us likewise.
We have been conquered but now we find ourselves at the very end of our slavery and yet it is labour to move the page forward. Do not try to stop the tides of history - instead be content to write a sentence to endure as the legacy of your race.
Now it is Europa's turn to defend herself.
May you stop the Saracen at the gates and may the white woman's beauty flourish once more free from the obtuse hordes and the false paradigms she now carries.
t. Nehiyaw patriot
>>72966889
Neither because Europe is majorly cucked but returning Boers to Europe could be the easier one.
>>72965389
>I'm a nationalist. Nationalist for all people, everyone should have their home etc.
So he sounds more like a Gen Identitaire type? He's just worried about "white flight" and ethnocide of Europeans?
>>72967255
There was a /k/ommando thread about people volunteering as game wardens in South Africa. I wonder if there are some ways to exploit immigration laws or volunteer programs to send people to support fellow Europeans there? Maybe along the same lines, like volunteer security forces for farmers. It would certainly be a way to get donations to support the population there, maybe start charitable foundations to prove economic support and security to poor whites neglected by the Zuma regime. Great way to promote white solidarity, raise awareness of white genocide, while shoving the hypocrisy of the left in their own faces. More boots on the ground can mean more help to Saffers, whether its to help them rebuild there or to get them out.
>>72966889
Right of return is ultimately more realistic but carving out even a small state for white African settlers has the most long term promise.
>>72968182
It's probably impossible to know, unless we have a saffer anon with good insight, but I get the impression that whites there still aren't woke. Not enough to be organized. If it's gotten this bad, and they still are into the leftist brainwash, it might be impossible to save them. I'd really like to know.
>>72968981
If they really are still under the leftist thrall then it's sad, but there's no helping them.
should britain leave the eu? i heard it was good for trades and they would tariffs on the uk if we left and the migrants that britain will accept will propel the economy
>>72969648
> i heard it was good for trades
In general yes, but we can get our own trade deals with time. Especially if the EU breaks apart, they'll be desperate to establish something like the classic EEC (which was good)
At this point accepting migrants for labour has no effect but reducing the value of the lowest-end wages.
>>72969917
but won't they try and screw us over because we left the eu?
>>72970035
If we leave the whole house of cards comes tumbling down. As the second biggest economy in Europe they don't have the balls to do anything too severe out of malice.
>>72962477
Yay. Count me in!
Sore losers general.
>>72969917
>accepting migrants for labour has no effect but reducing the value of the lowest-end wages
This is the thing that I wish Bernouts in the US would comprehend, that unless policies involve delimiting immigration from all sources, bullshit like "meaningful minimum wages" are meaningless. Anyone who is actually a low ender earner, but is being swayed by shit like Uncle Trotsky, is tying a noose around their own neck.
>http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/research/Documents/workingpapers/2015/swp574.pdf
>>72967707
That picture makes me so fucking mad.
>>72970269
>Sore losers
Who lost?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na360I-dfXg
>>72970269
Who lost what, anon?
>>72962477
I wish you could understand this intervention, its totally astonishing how this man explains the origins of what is going on.
If there is someone who speaks spanish and is willing to translate, please do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udfqm0Et3xY
>>72970636
Can you translate? My Spanish is terrible.
>>72962477
Nationalists hate Europe.
>>72970758
Its very long. I wish I had time but I am very busy these days. I will do it the next month if nobody does.
Do you think the idea of Turkishness is too inextricable from Islam?
Atatürk had the right idea when he tried to make the new emerging republic secular and push religion to the background but I feel like Islam is too tied in with our culture to effectively ever destroy it and later replace it with pure nationalism. Is nationalism thus impossible in Islamic countries along less religious lines in the ME? Whatever you do you end up with a country who goes to war shouting allahu ackbar
>>72970836
Only the current one. The new Europe will be united in division, sticking together so we can stay off each other's back.
>>72970836
As you can see from earlier posts ITT, >>72963339
obviously there's quite a bit of controversy and uncertainty about whether that makes sense.
>>72962477
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLKiAasovtE
>>72970952
>Do you think the idea of Turkishness is too inextricable from Islam?
Kemalism wasn't a good direction for you guys? What about pushing it a bit further? Islam doesn't tolerate "secularism" for long, Kemalism being the longest lived example.
>>72970992
>united in division
how? how the fuck is it not just going to be tiny easy to manipulate states fighting little proxy conflicts for russia and america? you would need some sort of a superstate to ensure order and conformity of goals, and this superstate would fall apart just like all other superstates filled with tiny seperate cultures and races
>>72962477
There's no need for a war if we just kill every jew.
Just make sure no one is alive and just watch as everything they're doing to us will go away in an instant.
>>72971076
That's what I feared. There has never been other examples expect maybe pre-revolution Iran so I'm beginning to think it just doesn't work
>>72970952
Mohammed was a massive fucking leftist. He was smart and saw men like Atatürk coming from a millennia away. I'm afraid Mohammed's ghost has you by the balls, and it won't let go unless Turks are actually made aware that they can't really have Turkishness and Islam at the same time.
>>72963339
>>72963488
>>72963649
>>72963733
>>72964475
>>72970998
In my opinion, a confederation of european identitary movements is more necesary and posible than ever.
Only with such an Alliance, glued by our racial and cultural similarities, we can subvert the cultural marxist wave.
That doesnt imply a renounce to our identities or our differences, just to work together being concious of our similarities.
This is not even a personal preference, I see no other way. Alone, we dont have enought strenght to go against them. Even if a nationalistic movement had the control of a country, they would still not have enought strength...
>>72971379
A foundation is needed to fight. We have to roll back the damage of cultural marxism, or we'll never fight. Nationalism and strong identity is the antidote.
>>72971403
>I'm beginning to think it just doesn't work
I don't know what to tell you, its' an issue i spent a long time contemplating, but the more Sharia I studied, the more it became clear that Islam is consciously designed not ever to be adulterated. I feel bad for people born into Islamized cultures that see it as negative. There's few options for escape.
>>72971379
Why would you kill every jew? A lot of them are mostly european and have no relationship with sionism.
Its a sad thing they have a jewish culture though.
>>72971284
>you would need some sort of a superstate to ensure order and conformity of goals
I disagree. We need peace and (voluntary, sensible) coordination. Aside from that, decentralisation is in order.
>>72971434
>can't really have Turkishness and Islam at the same time
The idea seems simple but the practicality of it indeed might me impossible. Going without another party right now seems like a good beginning
>>72971649
The harder you stamp it out the harder it comes back
>>72971434
>Mohammed was a massive fucking leftis
I'm starting to see that all the Semitic religions have the same quality of destroying uniqueness, supressing beneath a totalitarian whole. Judaism and Islam are the same in that respect.
>>72971284
>you would need some sort of a superstate to ensure order and conformity of goals
Did Christianity require a superstate for all Christians to unite against Islam? Europeans are at a crossroads. We either recognize that we are the specific targets of predatory groups with ancient gripes against us, or we die. It's as simple as that.
bump
>>72971923
even when united against a threat europeans try to undermine and destroy eachother. its inevitable poland will join with america to destroy germany or france will join with russia to destroy britain, or any other million combinations of infighting. division is always weakness.
>>72971803
and this seems perfectly realistic to you? people will just get along with eachother because...? i assure you plenty of czechs would love to see germany destroyed and would work with any anti european force you can think of. we are the aztecs before spain came, our division will kill us and there is nothing to avoid it, only cushion the fall by falling to the right direction
>>72971284
In other words, our enemies view Europids (Slavs and the rest) as a unified whole, but they prey upon our disunity and infighting. That's the reality we face, and it presents few choices.
>>72972541
>people will just get along with eachother because...?
They face extinction. If that won't unify us all, we become Darwin Awards. It's happened before. There are races that were wiped off the face of Europe as recently as the 3rd Crusades. They're just gone. Not converted or assimilated, just gone. Even most Ashkenazi Jews aren't jews, just wandering Khazars from their empire that imploded.
>>72971604
>>72972544
I forgot to say that union necessarily includes the slavic world. Europe is not europe without them.
>America can't unshackle itself from multiculturalism
Such is life.
>>72972837
>Europe is not europe without them.
THat's the irony; it was a lie that the fascists were necessarily anti-Slav, that was just soviet and jewish propaganda. We all have the same cultural and racial origins if you go back far enough.
>>72972937
>revolution soldier isn't wearing farm clothes and half starving
Idealized as fuck
>>72972837
Europids are one family culturally, linguistically, and genetically. The enemy knows it, but we have been indoctrinated to forget.
Who here, /pan-separatist/?
>>72972541
>and this seems perfectly realistic to you?
We've already kinda had that thanks to Bismarck, but then came Wilhelm II. and together with that idiotic impotent Nicholas II., everything went to shit. Nowadays, such a thing would not happen.
The EU is neither useful nor needed. All economic perks it has accomplished could have been built without it. And the Euro always was and still is a terrible idea. I'll never compromise on that stance.
>>72972448
>this from the guy that wants to build an ocean nation for thousands of people
>>72965020
Asians value the group above the individual, which is why they are so homogenous, korea, japan, china, vietnam, they are much more hostile to outsiders than the west. We need to try to promote this group/tribe mentality.
>>72973766
>We need to try to promote this group/tribe mentality
I don't know if we'll ever match asians in that respect, since it's not in our nature. We were never as group oriented as they have been. But we do need to pull ourselves back from the pit of total disorder and disunity. Cultural Marxism preys on our innate individualism, corrupts it, and turns it against us. There needs to be a balance, so we don't lose our uniqueness, but don't become completely disarmed and fragmented.
>>72973766
This. Their values have proven resistant to immigration, even if they still fall victim to degenracy.
>>72973138
>Europids are one family culturally, linguistically, and genetically
We all share common traints. Differences are there too, and we should preserve them.
But you are right, everyone is seing europeans as "europeans", as we see africans as "africans", even when they are very different among them.
>>72973984
>There needs to be a balance, so we don't lose our uniqueness
Therein lies the problem, it's our culture that's gotten us here, one cannot eradicate a cancer without harming the healthy cells. The culture of greed, sex, and excess needs to change. I think the people have grown to used to peace, people get fat in peacetime, lazy, they lose purpose.
>>72973984
Realizing the weaknesses of individualism along with it's strengths is the first step to saving the white race.
Loyalty to the self is important but loyalty to the nation (not necessarily the state) and to the family and community will be our salvation. Sometimes the individual must sacrifice for the good of his nation, community, or family. This is why Libertarianism and Objectivism will always fail to stop the decline of the west.
>>72974424
We share more similarities, by far, than differences. Our differences are priceless, though. That's a unique synthetic kind of view to adopt, and we've been trained to resist it, but it's objectively true.
Europe is ONE tapestry, and each of it's people are individual threads.
>>72974924
I love all these symbols so much. They irradiate political, cultural and economic equilibrium.
>>72974924
>72974924
not familliar with the swedish one actually. shame on me
>>72975319
Yes, I think our simbols awake on us some sort of primal instict, because they were made with that intention.
Anyways, I cant fully simpatice with the catholic far right of my county. I still support them because they opose the current wave of cultural marxism.
>>72963373
lol he questioned the nazi racial pseudoscience of his day as any sane person would have.
You don't have to be part of a blood religion to realise the virtues of a shared ethnic identity.
Bump
>>72963339
I'm definitely in favor of pan-european nationalism. Europeans have a lot to gain from cooperation (trade, defence, common mass deportation programs for example). However we would need to balance cooperation with countries rights to self-determination. Whatever can be handled individually by each country, should be left for each country to handle individually.
As it is, the EU needs to be scrapped, or at least it needs extensive rework. I think that the common currency needs to go too
>>>/gulag/
Why does George Soros keep trying to ruin Europa?
>>72978656
>>72979339
>>72978903
>Why does George Soros keep trying to ruin Europa?
Because goys are a biological weapon that threatens the Synoguge of Satan.
>>72979548
Sorry man, but that Lenin demolition is prophetic. It's like Kek himself took control of that crane to show everyone what the Pantheon thinks of centralists. You're outmatched here.
>>72978903
>>72979693
There is only one God.
And he is a communist.
>>72979857
Wrong on both accounts.
Some very interesting insights on Churchill, for anyone interested.
https://youtu.be/hzfeNKl-SFw?t=21m19s
> https://archive.is/57iW6
