SJW: Trump is a racist.
Me: Tell me one reason why he's racist.
SJW: He said we should ban all muslims from entering the US.
How do you respond?
Muslims aren't a race
>>72958256
FPBP
>>72958181
>then Obama must be a racist because he did just exactly that in 2012"
Turn 360 degree and run away
>>72958181
Not a race
>He's islamophobic then
scared of Islam? You're damn right he is. I am too and you should be. They killed thousands in New York, hundreds in Europe. They behead people, stone women and limit freedom. I'm scared of tigers and I don't let them in my house. I'm scared of muslims and we shouldn't let them into our country. Grow up and stop being so naive.
>>72958181
Muslim is not a race
Mexican is not a race
>>72959044
it's the full circle
>>72959838
not an argument
>>72959838
Spotted the newfag
>>72958256
Aye.
1. Muslims aren't a race
2. Why the hell do you care about Muslims anyway? Look at how they are destroying Europe.k
>>72959933
>>72959976
this isn't /b/ fucking cretins.
>>72959838
You can run backwards too or just straight, you'll be running away from them anyway.
>>72959976
>being this new
>>72958181
Obama did the same thing
>>72958181
>SJW: He said we should ban all muslims from entering the US.
Gee, isn't it wonderful we live in this age of free information where everyone and their grandmother has a handheld device that can access the internet. Will you kindly point me to where he said all Muslims should be banned from entering the U.S.?
>>72958181
>He said we should ban all muslims from entering the US.
Obama actually prevented the entering of people from the middle east problem areas in 2015
By banning all Muslims he literally just means that he wants to treat Muslims (particularly "refugees") the same as any other legal immigrant. With the refugees right now they don't need paperwork/ID to come into the country, but Trump wants to change that.
Our national security advisors have all said there is merit to the claims that ISIS is among the refugees, it's not just a /pol/ meme. Wish I bookmarked those sources but those can probably easily be found.
I'm a newfag teach me please.
>>72959810
Still, both deserve a quick and bloody death.
Mexico is a shithole because Mexicans.
Middle East is a shithole because arab Muslims.
Kill em all
>>72959717
>They killed thousands in New York
>believing this
Otherwise good post
>>72958181
Muslims are not a race.
Trump is the only one addressing the problem without any fear from the public opinion.
What problem?
Why is the percentage of terrorist attacks perpetrating by Muslims so incredibly high in comparison with other religions.
And why is the second or third immigrant generation Muslims the ones perpetrating the terrorist attacks(this if they claim that those terrorist were victims of war)
>>72961000
SJW isn't going to say that though
>>72958256
No this is stupid. Point out how muslim culture is incompatible with the west, how there is no seperation of church and state that sharia law is often jurisprudence and talk about how EU is being destroyed and raped. Bring up the jihad literally in the koran and then talk about hamas and hezbollah. End it with uk sharia zones.
>>72958256
Yes, but the odds are if they're muslim, they're not white.
>>72960715
LIAR ID
>>72958181
It's weird how leftists only care about religious liberty when it involves Muslims, never when it is about Christians.
>>72958438
source?
>>72959810
White is not a race
>>72961348
then tell him you are muslim and watch him tumble over his stupid argument
>>72958181
I don't give a fuck. Not wanting to take in people from terrorist breeding grounds is not racist. FUCK YOU.
#rekt
>>72958181
Securing the border and keeping people safe from terrorists ISN'T racist. Also, muslim isn't a race it's a religion!
>>72958181
His proposal is to put a temporary halt on people coming from areas where there is islamic terrorist activity until we can establish a way of verifying who these people are. This isn't conjecture either, look at the terrorist attacks carried out against western nations by muslims for the past 20 years.
If it's racist to be concerned about national security and preventing terrorist attacks then we need to be racist.
>>72962826
It's not stupid if you think about who muslims are for just a minute.
Stop being cuck, and yelling trump isn't a racist and start forcing people to defend the shitty behavior of nonwhites. They're going to call you a racist no matter what rightwing position you have.
>>72958181
Whos the tennis player OP
>>72958181
Point out that Muslims are not a race, they are followers of Islam. Also point out that Islamic culture greatly contradicts and clashes with Western values and morales.
I actually have lines from the Quran saved to my phone just so I can blow liberals the fuck out.
If they mention anything about Mexicans, I tell them that Mexicans are a nationality of hispanic peoples, not a race, and that trump never called them all rapists but said that they bring over THEIR rapists. Also point out that the wall is not to keep out Mexicans in the first place, but to keep out Mexican criminals, drug dealers, and illegal immigrants who won't go through the checkpoints. Mexicans are still allowed into the US as long as they enter legally. Also point out that Mexico has their own wall on their southern border with Guatemala that has the sole purpose of keeping drug dealers, criminals and illegals out, and the guards are told to shoot on sight.
>>72958181
1 Muslims aren't a race
2 The president can stop any immigration for any reason
>>72958181
He did not say he would ban all Muslims from entering the US he said he would not instantly dismiss such an idea.
>>72958181
That's stupid, but it's not racist.
>>72958181
1. Muslims are not a race.
2. Racism is the belief that all members of one race are inherently better than all members of other races.
3. Right cross, stomp, stomp, stomp.
Obombom did the same thing for 6 months in 2011
>>72958181
"You may be willing to gamble with the lives of innocent people, but I'm not."
>>72961348
How about white muslims?
>>72958181
Muslims are religious people who believe in Islam and the profit Mohammad, This is a religion, So I am not racist, I just believe the peaceful Muslims don't do enough to prevent their own radicalization from causing terrorist attacks. Muslims also treat woman like shit and homosexuals and transsexuals are seen as abominations to their religion.
>>72958181
>How do you respond?
What the problem with being racist?
I have every right and reason to be racist. POC have done nothing to build this world. If it wasn't for whites and Asians the rest of you fucks would be sitting in your mud hut picking your ass.
>>72964717
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>>72964744
>profit
>kek
you'll embarrass us with that grammar
>>72958256
>muslims aren't a race
>/pol/ always refer to them in terms of race
pick one hypocrites
>>72964987
I dislike even Finnish-born muslims, go suck off a goat.
>>72958181
Tell them excuse me but Muslims are not a race. I think you might be referring to people of Arabian descent which makes you a racist because race is a social construct yet you still see people in color.
Now who here is the real racist?
>>72958181
>muslims
>race
lal
>>72958181
you have to be a certified ignorant moron to think that hed actually be able to do that, and to take it seriously.
>>72964717
Do you not understand how probability works?
>>72958181
Well yes, Islam is a cancer, even the modern decent Muslim promotes the teachings of medieval fairy tales and the indoctrination of children. Leaving the next generation as dumb and backwards as their parents were. No enlightment or anything good. Just vague mysticism and a will to shout and push through their agenda with force.
YOU DON'T NEGOTIATE WITH CANCER
>>72958181
He didn't say that. He said he wanted a temporary moratorium on muslim immigration, until we get a handle on the ISIS situation.
It's similar to how they think Trump said all mexicans are rapists and criminals when in reality he was talking about a major problem with ILLEGAL immigrants and the mexican cartels, home invasions, etc.
>>72965343
Well, even if it's 100:1 ratio, there are still white muslims, therefore, it can't be called racism.
>>72965731
>He didn't say that. He said he wanted a temporary moratorium on muslim immigration, until we get a handle on the ISIS situation.
>Are you Muslim?
>No.
>OK, come on in.
No wonder most trumplets are unemployable retards, kek
>>72958256
FPBP WON AGAIN
>>72961262
They are not a race, turn it around on them. Do you agree with pedophilia? If you support Islam you believe Mohammud (piss be upon him) was the most moral and just man to ever walk this earth.
He raped children.
Do you agree with rape culture? you do if you support Islam.
>>72958181
He doesn't hate them. He just wants to protect America from risks. He only suggested that as a possible temporary measure.
They aren't a race.
>>72965859
Yes, because that's exactly how we do background checks...
I bet the courts work the same way, right?
>Did you actually murder that guy?
>No.
>OK, this guy is free to go, next case!
>>72958181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QH20M7gG0c&feature=youtu.be
>>72965859
What did he mean by this?
They potentially pose a national security threat and come from a society that is alien to our own, snd tend to integrate poorly, or not at all.
These men treat women as objects to be used and abused, and have so for centuries.
And women dont deserve that, not my daughters, not my sisters, and not MY mother.
How'd I do?
>>72966115
>background check
What kind of paper trail does a muslim leave? Go on kiddo, i'd love to hear it.
Stay in school.
Lol if you wanna build a wall so much the Mexicans will just make tunnels . You guys are ao stupid.
>>72966464
If you don't have any sort of records, how do you expect to be let into the country to begin with?
I mean, what are you getting at here? We should just let everyone into the U.S. with no identification or records whatsoever? Is that your point?
Fuck man, no fap is hard when you guys keep posting nalgonas
>>72966642
an ID, like a passport, is not the same as checking on someone's intangible religious beliefs.
the fact that you need this explained to you only further proves that you must be a child.
>>72958181
Islam isn't a race. Islam is a sexist, homophobic and racist ideology. Ask them why they support importing a sexist, homophobic and racist ideology.
>>72958181
Islam isn't a race you moron, neither is Mexican
>>72966600
Quick question: how deep do you think mexican tunnels can be?
After you're done looking that up, consider how deep in the ground a wall can be built.
Liberals... smhfam...
>>72958181
I like tennis.
>>72966642
>We should just let everyone into the U.S. with no identification or records whatsoever?
also, i love how you kids just resort to straw men as a gut reaction. i guess this is the result of spending your formative years on a reactionary cesspool like /pol/.
pic VERY related, assuming you are literate (which may be a stretch)
>>72958181
"And what exactly is the problem with that?"
>>72958181
>>72958181
>Point out FDR did the same thing when the Japanese committed terrorist attacks on American soil
>Point out how FDR is widely regarded as one of the greatest presidents of all time.
>>72967285
but that's a terrible argument considering there is widespread consensus that japanese internment was one of the biggest blemishes in american history
>>72958256
FP BP NIGA
>>72966974
I don't understand how you think any one is going to take you seriously when you so obviously troll like that. This is an anonymous forum, you're just going to get ignored if all you can do it call people idiots/children/illiterate/racists/etc with no real substance.
>>72961564
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-kentucky-us-dozens-terrorists-country-refugees/story?id=20931131
>>72967568
It's difficult to take trumplets seriously in general, but if you choose to ignore the points i am making (i explicitly asked you how anyone or any record would "prove" someone is a muslim) by pretending to take the "high road", i suppose i cant stop you. just be aware that you're not fooling anyone. like i said, stay in school.
>>72958181
Dat ass
>>72961348
Or Scottish.
>>72967914
It's not a notrue Scotsman argument you fucking dumb mongrel cunt. I just acknowledged that it's not a race in that post, I was pointing out the overwhelming majority of muslims are not white.
A muslim ban de facto targets nonwhites you fucking retard.
>>72967718
I don't know how it works in the middle east, but in the U.S. we have both government and medical records that include religious affiliation. If you look at my records I'm considered a Christian, you can also look into my family history for such information. If no such information exists in the first place I'm fine with just shutting out particular countries for a period of time entirely, until the ISIS situation is taken care of. While not perfect, it will at least make things very difficult for terrorists to enter the country, vastly limiting their potential number while we deal with that problem (and actually have a president who will deal with it instead of ignore it and pretend it isn't a problem).
You still haven't answered my point about letting everyone in without checking anything, though. Our intelligence agencies have already confirmed ISIS has infiltrated the syrian refugee population, what is your plan to deal with that?
>>72958181
Muslim is a race...
Muslims are not a singular race.
>>72968422
>non whites are included in a group so we can't target them.
Sending criminals to jail also de facto targets non-whites.
Since non-whites are now a protected class, should we stop punishing criminals? :^)
And since you're a retard, Glasgow is in Scotland. It has nothing to do with no true Scotsman.
Last time I tried this, the response was, "he isn't racist, but he panders to the racist base."
Apparently only racists want nationalism and strong borders. She was convinced that globalism is the solution to all worldly problems
>>72969336
>>72969068
>Sending criminals to jail also de facto targets non-whites.
>Since non-whites are now a protected class, should we stop punishing criminals? :^)
That's why we take the effort to talk about national crime victimization surveys and the fbi arrest rates to explain that it doesn't arise from discrimination. Do you not notice the amount of effort the right puts into explaining that disparity in crime is not due to police officers maliciously targeting minorities?
No one will seriously dispute the US has the right to prevent foreign armies from entering, so the logic behind the muslim ban and race and crime are essentially parallel.
>And since you're a retard, Glasgow is in Scotland. It has nothing to do with no true Scotsman.
So posting a white,scottish woman in response to the claim that the majority of muslims are nonwhite doesn't mean you weren't trying to say I was making a no true scotsman fallacy. Sure.
>>72970175
>So posting a white,scottish woman in response to the claim that the majority of muslims are nonwhite doesn't mean you weren't trying to say I was making a no true scotsman fallacy. Sure.
I think you should look up what the phrases you're posting actually mean.
>amount of effort the right puts into explaining that disparity in crime is not due to police officers maliciously targeting minorities?
The right puts no effort into it, the right observes it and the left fails to provide evidence to the contrary.
If you actually want to learn, ask. You're just posting complete nonsense at this point.
>>72958181
>Islam isn't a race
>>72970597
Don't, dude. The guy is a fucking retard. No one demographic is going to be equally made up of every single ethnicity, it isn't possible. Not even the demographic of 'Human' can do that. Therefore literally every policy will over-target one race, every, single, time. It's a complete non-argument but this nigger doesn't seem to understand.
>>72970597
>I think you should look up what the phrases you're posting actually mean.
http://www.iep.utm.edu/fallacy/#NoTrueScotsman
>The right puts no effort into it, the right observes it and the left fails to provide evidence to the contrary.
Jared Taylor isn't on the right? Amren is a leftist organization.
>...and the left fails to provide evidence to the contrary.
They do but it's shit-tier arguments that cite an aclu study or census data that are both self-reported.
>>72958181
Muslims oppress women. Checkmate.
>>72958181
Islam isn't a race, we have no reliable way to vet people from war-torn areas, and every intelligence agency on the planet knows that ISIS has infiltrated refugee populations.
>>72970885
If your starting premise is human egalitarianism, than the only reason there are demographic disparities exist is due to the either discrimination or bad culture.
As the US has a history of actual legal discrimination, they find it more persuasive to blame legal discrimination.
You're projecting your initial premise onto the world without acknowledging it's a premise. How dense can you be?
>>72971004
That's racist you bigot!
Just ask the SJW how it's a bad thing and watch as he/she say "Are you kidding? It's (the current year) wow just wow."
>>72958181
say muslims view themself as superior towards non muslims and trump is an anti racist by not letting them in.
educate me here
i thought trump said immigration was okay -- just no illegal immigrants
>>72958181
He wants to put a moratorium on refugees from the middle east until ISIS is dealt with and our intelligence services determine that there is no longer a national security risk of ISIS operatives sneaking in to commit terrorist acts like we saw in France and Belgium. The President has the authority to do this based on 8 USC ยง1182
Do this, it will shut down most leftists when they expect you to act like their media caricature of Trump supporters. They will then default to "blah blah blah I can't hear you Trump raycis"
Tell her Im muslim and I agree with Trump.
>>72971154
That is not my premise, it's yours. The only way you could possibly argue targeting a race is bad is by assuming that, or arguing the race is not worth targeting.
You can't have your cake and eat it too faggot.
>>72971191
"trump supporting feminists"
wtf did i just read
>>72971191
That's some very nice taqqyia. Muslims are adapting to all the possible issues to the election.
>>72961404
It's okay to desecrate a bible in any way for the sake of "art."
But it's a hate crime to put a strip of bacon on a privately owned copy of the Quran.
Even my phone auto capitalized Quran and not bible. Shits institutional.
>>72971780
Well he does treat women more fairly than most.
>>72958181
I'm offended by that micro aggressive attitude and ask the thought police that said SJW be removed from my happy bubble
>>72958181
Muslims aren't a race.
>>72972223
The funny thing is women don't want fairness or equality, they want entitlements and privilege and special treatment.
They want all the good things about being a man with none of the downsides
The military is thinking of adding women to the draft and they're not at all happy about it.
>>72958181
fuck muslims
>>72971668
My starting premise isn't human egalitarianism, but I wasn't arguing for that in that post. I'm claiming if egalitarianism is your belief, then everything else follows, while a non-egalitarian belief would target race.
>The only way you could possibly argue targeting a race is bad is by assuming that, or arguing the race is not worth targeting.
Right, that's the argument I am presenting in the post you're responding to.
>Don't, dude. The guy is a fucking retard. No one demographic is going to be equally made up of every single ethnicity, it isn't possible. Not even the demographic of 'Human' can do that. Therefore literally every policy will over-target one race, every, single, time. It's a complete non-argument but this nigger doesn't seem to understand.
If you're trying to summarize my the argument I was presenting in the post you were responding to, you didn't do a good job clarifying that. I typically prefer to quote people or make reference to the fact that I'm summarizing someone else's view, but to each his own.
>>72960316
That started on /v/.
Muslims aren't a race
done
>>72961262
You've given into them. Islam is not a race. Hitchens warned us years ago that the term Islamiphobia would creep into the discourse with racial implications in a purposeful attempt to confuse. It's happened as he predicted.
>>72972499
Thats exactly what your women are doing Hansel.
>>72958181
3 in 4 muslims are sympathetic to ISIS
Muslims are not a race. That simple, if you're a true Progressive you would be against their regressive ideologies against women and gays.
IT'S ALL OVER FOLKS! TRUMP has WON the GOP nomination! Now its time to "Start me up" the war with Hillary. Watch, only a minute long. DO IT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBze2CPbMPU
>>72972458
>military requires all women 18-45 to register for selective service
>women whine and protest
>51% of Americans have their voter registration purged for failing to register with SS and can't vote in November
>>72958181
Hitler loved the Islamic religion, and to this day Muslims around the world idolize him.
>>72964156
got a source there friendo?
>>72958181
>SJW: He said we should ban all muslims from entering the US.
They can't even say that. They usually go "UGH IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE A BIGOT".
>>72973283
ofcourse , hitler was the man !!
