Never forget
Libertarianism is the most Jewish philosophy of all time.
Take a hike, kike.
>>72949447
you are deluded if you really think johnson even has a chance
That Libertarians are faggots? Trust me, I don't.
>>72949447
>supports abortion
fucking dropped
Yessss
Johnson is a sjw faggot goyim
>>72949447
What's a school voucher?
Also, libertarianism is a dangerous ideology.
>>72949719
>being anti black destroyer
>>72949719
>caring about social issues
nice meme
>>72949719
>actually and unironically wanting a larger dindu population
>>72949574
Because self responsibility and economic freedom is jewish concept in japan, right?
>>72949574
Yeah. Freedom is for Jews. We need someone to tell us what to do and punish us for not doing it.
>>72950077
>>72950164
>>72950286
the only way you can stop subhumans from breeding is if you give them money for NOT having children
>>72949447
>Abolish the IRS.
So how do we collect for the 4 trillion dollar annual budget?
>>72950724
Through consumption taxes.
>>72949574
Communism is, but you are correct in saying Libertarianism is very Jewy.
>>72949447
>End the war on drugs
When will this meme end?
>>72950724
Don't have a $4,000,000,000,000 budget.
>>72950977
>A 40+ year failed policy that's cost this country over a trillion dollars is a meme
>>72950977
dude, WEED
>>72950498
OR end the welfare state that encourages minorities to have more children they can't afford
>>72949447
>abortion
>good
fuck off child-killer
>>72949447
Stop it with your lies!
>>72951298
Blacks in America receive more abortions than another other race in America. Abortion is absolutely a good thing over here m8.
>>72951418
That's so subtle I almost thought it was just a dead pixel
>>72949574
fuck off zipperhead
>>72951652
that's like saying there should be less police interventions because most violence is black gangs fighting
>>72949447
And yet I agree with Donald Trump on all of those things..strange I guess since I mostly agree with him that's why I vote for him...
Faggot
>>72951763
>A smaller dindu population is somehow a bad thing
I understand that you don't have many darkies in your country, but your time here shouldve taught you why fewer dindus is a good thing.
>>72949447
Where is BUILD WALL?
>>72949447
Ignore the "libertarian" threads these are Hillary shills trying to split the vote
AGAIN
>>72949447
I'd vote for Johnson if I didn't live in a swing state
>>72949447
>End War on Drugs
When will this maymay die?
Federal drug laws are intertwined with international treaties, so if you're longing for DUDE WEED you're going to have to wait a good half-century to get through all the red tape.
Best you can hope for is state-level legalization and a President that doesn't give a shit. Anyone promising to end the War on Drugs is just trying to buy your vote with your addiction.
>>72952524
>Anyone promising to end the War on Drugs is just trying to buy your vote with your addiction.
What addiction? Addiction to ban drugs?
>LOLbertarians
>>72949574
Based Nippon is not based today. Kill yourself commie.
>>72950498
Or you can also scale back the government so it doesn't give handouts to those degenerates. The free market is the best solution to have a virtuous society ridden of thieves and useless people.
>>72949447
>abolish IRS
What's the alternative? Use tax or whatever it's called?
whelp. guess I'm a /cruzmissle/ now
>>72950032
You can take the tax money that would normally be used on your child's school that year (let's say $12,000 maybe) and put it towards tuition in a private school.
Basically the government pays you to send your kid to a better school.
GOOD: You get your child the best education possible
BAD: You can't help the school you're zoned to improve academically (this has been shown to not happen - rather, it stifles the development and drive of the would-be gifted student)
>>72953295
meant for >>72950032
>>72949447
party libertarians are fucking chumps.
you picked bob barr over mary ruwart and argued it was about who had a chance at getting elected. that's absolutely fucking bonkers. you have no chance of getting anyone elected, period, without decades more work -- and every single cycle between then and now you need a ideologue with powerful charisma as the nominee. the practical/experienced politicians are not for the stage, they belong in the campaign management.
burn that membership card and become an anarcho-capitalist. or, just join the rest of the fucking socialists already if all you care about is results, not principles.
>>72952524
>international treaties supercede US law
>international treaties matter
>>72949719
Put down the le christcuck conservacuck maymay. People that want abortions will leech of those that don't.
>>72953295
no, the government "pays" you the value of the "free" education you are not opting to use for your child.
you take that voucher, which is not actual money, and are allowed to spend it towards the cost of a private education, good or bad, more expensive or less expensive. doesn't matter.
now, explain why it's bad that the school your property is zoned into matters to you. at all.
>all these shills trying to divide and conquer MAGA
Lel
>>72950077
>implying we should allow murder just because blacks voluntarily use the system on themselves
>thinking you have conservative principles
pick one, liberal.
>>72949574
fpbp
>>72949447
reminder that Gary Johnson got 3.5% of the vote in New Mexico in 2012, the state he was re-elected in
>>72949657
Every four years faggots like you chant the same shit and then wonder why the choices are always terrible.
The goal is only 5% anyway.
Why are people so scared of Johnson?
As long as there is no libertarian congress the most he will do is maybe repeal a few shit laws the GOP congress don't like either.
And he will balance the budget according to how the GOP congress wants it.
He will then vetoe everything that may hurt your freedom.
So what's bad about him?
Do people seriously belief the POTUS is all powerful?
Also Gary is not even a radical one.
He mostly vetoed in New Mexico and cancelled some programs in favour of more efficient programs.
State government still grew although at a much slower rate.
May have been because he had to work together with democrats.
>>72954077
Did he even enter the debates?
If you stop being a governor for over a decade people will forget you.
And retards do strategic voting and don't vote for the man they actually agree with
>>72952114
>smaller black population
>by any means necessary
literally nigger words
>>72953846
So, you'd rather want these black kids to be born, and to turn out like the retards that will raise them, than to havd them killed? Do know that most black people aren't conservative, they vote Democrat most of the time. The whole anti-abortion stance of Republicans will backfire some day.
>>72954282
He didn't poll high enough to be in the debates
>>72954282
he's pretty good he's just not electable. ron paul wasn't either, but i was still repping his bumpersticker.
the difference is ron paul gets airtime and spreads libertarian ideas because he isn't a autistic purist and was happy to work within the republican party. (in theory, of course, one could similarly work within the democrat party. in theory.)
>>72954296
>he says on the board that advocates genocide on a daily, if not hourly basis
>>72954316
they're just going to get shot in the commission of a crime anyway. that's much cheaper to society and isn't morally offensive.
>>72949447
Why are you putting ticks and crosses next to things which reflect your own personal world view?
Are you trying to say that my world view is RED CROSS WRONG DOUBLE MINUS BAD THINK because it's not the same as yours?
>>72954517
kek good point. well i advocate relocation, and voluntary sterilization -- and all of that paid for privately. it's not a function of government and it's not the taxpayer's job. the function of government is the justice system, at most.
>>72954416
Best thing that could happen is Johnson polling high enough to enter the debates.
Maybe that way people will learn that the current people sitting in the congress are not their friends.
But who am I kidding, nobody will ever learn
>>72954547
A vote is a vote. And how is it really cheaper? Not all of them die, most end up in prison. That's for some a lifetime of food and water, that costs money. And think about the people they hurt in the process, black guy goes to prison or gets shot... after robbing a house, killing the father, raping the mother and traumatizing the children living in it. You have so much for to gain by letting their population shrink.
>>72950012
Goyim is plural, goy is singular, you stupid fuqq!
>>72950360
(((economic freedom)))
Yeah, the freedom to enrich China and India's economy at the expense of your own population
Who would possibly argue against this?
>>72949574
Just because your people are basically human bees that can't handle individual freedom doesn't mean the rest of us are.
>>72955264
DUDE
WEED
LMAO
>>72951214
Basic income is an inevitability with robots and intelligent AI taking jobs. Only delusional people dont see welfare state will naturally increase.
>>72955264
Hope you Libertarians are at least aware that everything you fight for will never really get a majority vote. Can you honestly see your policies benefiting anybody but the really rich? You can kick and scream "ignorant stupid liberals" all you want everytime a Libertarian doesn't win, just know that your policies really suck.
>>72955624
How does wanting to end the war on drugs benefit only the rich?
How does wanting to end internet regulation benefit only the rich?
>>72955725
No internet regulation isn't only a Libertarian thing, first of.
The war on drugs isn't there for the sake of wasting money. It's there to prevent people from using harmful drugs. The people that we need to be good functioning members of society. People that aren't dependent drugheads who will always be stuck on minimumwage. Smart people wouldn't use drugs (too much I must add) unfortunately the bigger masses need to be prevented from doing so. Tell me how it's their freedom to do drugs, because I'm pretty sure you'd agree with me that idiots need to be told what to do and not do. The war on drugs benefits the rich since they can make some nice cash selling drugs, keeping the masses sick, dumb and addicted too.
>>72956264
> Tell me how it's their freedom to do drugs
Because individuals should be the only one responsible for their own body.
>because I'm pretty sure you'd agree with me that idiots need to be told what to do and not do
Assumptions based on nothing
>It's there to prevent people from using harmful drugs.
And yet it is not working, besides costing a tremendous amount of money.
Also the US prison system is quite inhumane, inb4 retribution is righteous.
Retribution just because somebody want to smoke a joint. You're a psychopath
>>72956264
fuck off faggot. If I want to inject krokodil into my dick I should be able to. People use drugs regardless. Making them illegal gives rise to powerful black markets and inhibits the freedoms of those who want to experiment with consciousness or self medicate. Life for many is about having as many desired, varied experiences as possible to get the most out of the short amount of time we exist. You shouldn't tell anyone how they should be able to live their life just because they have more utility for you if they live it your way. Life is also about choices and consequences. Allow people to make choices and deal with the consequences.
>inb4 traditionalists foam at the mouth over what I say because they can't fathom that other people should have sovereignty over their bodies
>>72956808
It's ironic how you people want to create a system that doesn't have to work.
>It's just a joint, bro.
Stoner culture is literally degenerate. You can't keep a stable society with it.
>>72957481
And I choose to restrict their freedom to live like subhumans. How about that, huh?
>Allow people to make choices and deal with the consequences.
Lol, have fun with all the lowlife potheads who will never ever vote Libertarian if a socialist promises legal drug use too (with a $15 minimum wage). This is why Ron Paul will never be president, nor Rand Paul, Gary Johnson, or whatever Libertarian). Allowing your country to turn into shit because people want it to be is absolutely weak and foolish.
DUDE WEED LMAO
>>72957485
>>72957996
>muh society
Newsflash retard, you're going to die. Nothing is going to save you from that. You are completely alone in this universe, you come in alone, and go out alone. Take your garbage Benthamite philosophy and throw it into the trash, it means nothing. Nothing has any significance or meaning, not even your precious society. There is only absurdity. You are absurdity; trying to forcibly impose what you believe to be order in an orderless existence. You live your life in bad faith.
>>72952252
Not at all. Fuck hillary. She's bought and paid for by Goldman Sachs.
Libertarians are by far the most dangerous hate group in America. I fucking despise lolbergs. The horrible thing is, with the moral degeneration of our culture into egotism and the undeniably libertarian roots of American culture, they pose a real threat to our nation. Libertarianism is an essentially genocidal hate ideology against the poor. You hear the lies about WW2 Germany, but libertarianism is ten times more sinister. I'm a NEET --- libertarians want to kill me. Understand that. If you're a NEET, libertarians want to kill you too. They are really a sick bunch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lCfsgjC1DU
>>72953479
I'm not a member of any party.
But of those who have a good chance of being on the ballot, Johnson is by far the least bad. (Personally I like McAfee and Petersen better but we'll see how the convention goes)
Trump is far better than Hillary but still not great.
>>72958994
Wat
>>72959032
Petersen is best
>>72958572
>it's le epin nihilist episode
guess what you pathetic faggot, it's not that life doesn't have any value, it's that YOUR life doesn't have any value and purpose
kill yourself asap
>>72955498
>>72959178
Libertarians are psychotic idealists who want to condemn the poor to death for their mad dog ideology.
>>72957485
New anon here
I think weed should be legal for the economic benefit of it. Think about it, if you regulate and tax weed hard you can get a shit ton of money cause stoners will pay for weed regardless of how expensive it is. Its a whole government market waiting there. Society will prevent itself from becoming stoners, like society hasnt collapsed from legal alcohol.
>>72949447
Since when are school vouchers a libertarian policy solution?
>>72958994
Get a job
>>72958572
You dense asshat. Do you still not understand how allowing other people to turn into the very people you dislike is, for the sake of their freedom, is retarded. I'm not talking about any moral shit.
>be libturd president
>no minimumwage, no universal healthcare, low to no taxes
>4 years of pure freedom (includes LOL WEED BRO)
>people use their freedom
>they use it a bit too much
>people turn into lowlife retards who can't hold jobs and can't afford their medical bills
>re election comes up
>"im pro drugs AND im for universal healtcare, a minimumwage AND we are going to tax the rich to the max"
>libturd president loses
>democracy chose communism
>"why didnt people vote for gary johnson again? Dont they want true freedom?"
Long term, this is even happening at the moment.
>>72959225
Yeah I'd have to agree.
Like I said, we'll see what happens at the convention but ATM Johnson is the frontrunner.
There was a Monmouth University poll which had Johnson at 11% in a Trump v Clinton v Johnson race... and we haven't even got to the general election yet.
There's a good possibility of a strong showing which could force Libertarianism into the spotlight, which would be great.
America deserves a 3rd choice.
>>72959516
>implying EVERYONE becomes a stoner overnight
>>72959225
This
Libertarianism is the Seth Rogan of political ideologies - of course it's only dumbfuck Americans who think it has any credibility
>>72959471
Since at least the early 1990s.
At least that's the earliest I've heard it proposed by libertarian think-tanks... likely earlier.
I'm sorry did someone say sensible policies based in reality?
You had your chance and you blew it.
>>72959661
>overnight
A fine example of Libertarians looking into the future. A day, a year or 2 at most.
Would you not say that the US youth today is more socialist than ever? These transformations take time.
Short term profits, long term losses. - Libertarians.
>>72959502
I have crippling autism
>>72959890
>name an enemy
>Webb is the only man to not name a fellow American
And that's why he didn't get elected.
>>72960139
Doesn't matter bro. It's your choice to not kill yourself, we aren't going to tax people that aren't mentally ill just for you, that would be against their freedom!
So I guess you must kill yourself (or not vote Libertarian, since most people don't either).
ITT: People with a warped view of libertarian beliefs.
Libertarians =/= AnCaps
We're talking classical liberalism here.
Although there are AnCaps and other extreme views, the majority of libertarians are fairly pragmatic. (For example Johnson... when he was Governor of New Mexico notice how the state did not decend into anarchy.
And even with a LP president and a plurality in Congress the end result would be a large shift of the center towards libertarianism. That's something even many Trump supporters could get behind.
Fucking freedom man.
>>72960578
"Classic" Libertarianism?
Is this pre-industrial evolution? If so, it should be ignored at all costs.
Johnson is pro-abortion, pro-homo, pro-trannys, and a fucking Nazi. Peterson > McAFee > Johnson
>>72959273
>it's not that life doesn't have any value, it's that YOUR life doesn't have any value and purpose
Silly, untermensch, nobody's does
it's not nihilism
In a meaningless world, we create our own unique meaning and sense of purpose for ourselves.
If I was a nihilist there would be nothing to stop me from killing myself.
You're just stupid.
>calling me pathetic when you yourself are a slave to a system of morality devised by others
How ironic.
>>72959516
>I'm the dense one.
You actually made me laugh.
You are a tunnelvision-suffering idiot. What I dislike in other people is not important to me. Things you and I consider negative are just a result of our expectations not being met. Negativity doesn't actually exist in this world, it is of human creation. The universe is chaotic, and your attempts to combat everything that doesn't meet your expectations will only lead to you dying a frustrated, unsatisfied man. Ultimately, that doesn't matter. But then again nothing really does. For this reason, to ensure the best possible scenario to allow everyone to seek a fulfilling life, it is best to just accept the world for what it is and people for what they are and allow people to have the freedom to make choices that allow them to find the meaning that they so desperately seek out of life. Embrace the absurd or die in vain of your denial of it.
>>72959516
Unions are preferable over minimum wage.
Completely unneeded to have a minimum wage when people are free to form labour unions.
Sweden for example has no minimum wage.
>>72949447
>Libertarian
>Not supporting based McAfee
>>72960358
You've got the average Amerikan douche style down.
>tfw I wasn't born in a glorious Nordic nation
>>72960956
NO
O
Also, thanks for showing Democracy doesn't work with Libertarianism.
>>72961375
You've literally made zero arguments besides strawmen and >muh drugs are bad m'kay
The war on drugs has been a collosal failure.
Inb4 you think it's ok because mostly black men get locked up
>>72960830
Classic Liberalism
You misread.
Lolbertarians are your enemy /pol/, when the fuck will you learn.
>>72955156
Both of the economies you listed have been thrown out of poverty since transitioning into capitalism.
Let the smart whities do the talking in this thread, chink.
>>72961264
I'll support whomever gets the nomination... Johnson appears to be leading.
But I've actually donated to McAfee's campaign so..
>>72949574
Looks like today, the samurai fears the jew
>>72961665
/pol/ doesn't like libertarianism because it tolerates different lifestyles. /pol/ is infected with mind viruses, one of the most prominent being
>degeneracy
Degeneracy that is determined by a moral system they have adopted that doesn't even represent their true interests
>>72961491
I did not make strawman and I gave arguments. Do I have to make a list numbering my arguments so you can comprehend?
>>72961546
I thought I read it wrong at first, guess I was right.
>>72962040
Sweden tolerates different lifestyles. Now the Muslims they bring in don't.
>>72949719
>muh fweelings
Kill yourself failed abortion.
>>72949574
this
freedom is for jews
goyim should be slaves
>>72949574
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
>>72955156
>Yeah, the freedom to enrich China and India's economy at the expense of your own population
You weren't complaining during the 70s when our car manufacturing base got turned over to yours.
besides, All that matters is purchasing power. Americas broke and the chinese elite don't seem to favorably disposed to allow their populous any standard of living.
>>72952001
>t. poorly paid shill
>>72962162
And your point is?
>>72950435
Lol
>>72962934
Well, simply put, just for you.
If you tolerate people that won't tolerate you, it won't be long until they make the calls.
>>72949447
>tfw /pol/ has been hijacked by bipartisan fucking faggot niggers and shills
I miss the /pol/ that was always right
>>72963287
Lol. No one said you have to tolerate people that infringe on your ability to live or pursue the lifestyle you desire. I never once advocated the allowance of victimization. Islamic morals I know are not conducive with my own, but as long as muslims do not act on them in such a manner as to cause harm to me or infringe on my liberty, they can think however they would like. If they make the choice to do harm, then they should be ready to suffer retaliatory consequences
>>72963945
But can't you see you live in a democracy? Don't you see that Muslims in Sweden, if they become the majority, can vote to ban pork, to ban beer, to ban having a dog? Understand that Libertarianism in itself cannot continue to exist if a group of people can vote against the ideology.
>muh constitution
Yeah, remember 1917? What a bunch of people with guns can do.
>>72963585
Is this some new divide and conquer tactic?
any gary johnson voters you get here are going to be from trumps side
making hillary more likely to win
why didn't Ron Paul run third party?
>supports abortion
fuck off kike
>>72964836
Nah, the goal is to eventually defeat the Democrat commie statists and Republican bible-thumper statists.
>>72964695
I accept that I have no real control over my life in a democracy. It is rule by the crowd, and the crowd is the untruth. Libertarianism is simply a cluster of political ideas that would allow me to live a more free life. You're using the possibilty of a democratic vote for shari'a law as a talking point for why tolerance and freedom is bad. In that vein, you're on the same side of the same coin with shari'a, restricting others' freedom so that you may preserve your own. It's highly hypocritical. I just want to be left alone and for others to be held responsible for their actions. If it never happens, bummer, my expectations aren't being met. Life is absurd. More than anything your reasoning sounds like a pitch for anarcho-capitalism
>>72949657
gary "the faggot" johnson is over, look for Austin Petersen
