I'm a Bernie supporter and the delusional Bernie supporters on Facebook are starting to seriously piss me off.
For the record: The Democratic convention is not going to be contested. That is what the superdelegates were created for. What's going to happen is that the Superdelegates are going to put Clinton over the top on the first ballot. Game over for Bernie.
Bernie's only chance at winning this nomination was to secure more pledged delegates than Clinton. If that happened, then the superdelegates would have put him over the top on the first ballot instead. That is how this process works. The candidate with the most delegates gets the nomination on the first ballot thanks to the superdelegates. It's really that simple.
I know there are other Bernie supporters on here. It's over. Bernie cannot finish the primaries with more pledged delegates than Clinton. The superdelegates are not going to switch over and give Bernie the nomination despite his delegate deficit. He had every opportunity to make his case to the superdelegates by winning more pledged delegates than Clinton, and he couldn't get it done. That's what it comes down to.
It's time to stop the delusion already.
>>72941418
The Superdelegates go with whoever has the most pledged delegates.
>>72941453
Which is exactly my point. Bernie cannot win the nomination at this point because he cannot surpass Clinton's pledged delegate count.
>>72941560
Yeah, he keeps arguing he has some case and the convention is going to be contested, but the smae shit happened with Obama and Hillary had like 100 less pledged delegates so she conceded to him.
>>72941418
Knowledgeable Anon, what's his end game though? Why is he still running?
>>72941739
>Why is he still running?
He wants to influence the party platform for the 2016 election. I'm fine with that goal, but I wish he would stop the talk of contested conventions, because it simply isn't happening - And it is turning some of his more zealous supporters into annoying little shits.
>>72941418
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>>72941560
The superdelegates have no obligation or compulsion to vote either way and about 600 of them have already publicly declared their vote, most before the first citizen got a chance.
Sanders goal is to go there and force the superdelegates to hand Clinton the victory.
>>72942347
They don't need to be obligated to vote a certain way. The expectation has always been that the superdelegates would put whoever got the most delegates over the top. Their publicly declared votes are completely irrelevant.
Superdelegates would not "hand" the victory to Clinton. They would put her over the top on the first ballot so as to avoid a contested convention. Clinton won the most delegates fair and square, whether bootyblasted people in denial want to admit it or not. She also won many more votes, so this "handing the election to her" stuff is nothing more than sour grapes.
>>72942516
>The expectation has always been that the superdelegates would put whoever got the most delegates over the top. Their publicly declared votes are completely irrelevant.
Have you paid attention at all? Sanders spent nearly every fucking interview from January to April fielding variants of the question "Why don't you give up, you need x% of the vote which is impossible" and he would waste 30 seconds explaining that superdelegates are unbound and he is actually securing 45% of the vote consistently.
Every fucking tally of this primary has included Clinton with a massive advantage because they included the superdelegates.
Every report has declared Clinton the presumed nominee and flashed up delegates + superdelegates
It drives me bonkers, too. All these idiots are insinuating that the process is rigged when Clinton is also leading by like 3 million in total votes. It's as stupid as the Trumpets crying about the Republican process.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE YOUR STATE PRIMARY RULES, JOIN THE FUCKING PARTY AND WORK TO CHANGE THEM. CHRIST.
>>72942916
The media has been very irresponsible in their reporting. You're absolutely right about that. They have been including superdelegates when they shouldn't have been.
That doesn't change the nature of the process. Everyone who is aware of how this process plays out has known that, if Bernie won the most pledged delegates, then he would have won the nomination at the convention on the first ballot thanks to the superdelegates. Everyone except the media, that is.
Your gripe is with the media, not with the nominating process.
>>72941418
the real battle begins...
I feel like I'm talking to shills here. No one is this retarded eloquently.
I hope the pennies are worth it.
>>72941418
Get the Trump Train ye bellend.
>>72943445
If you don't want to accept the reality of the situation, then fine. The truth is that the media has been playing up the superdelegate angle throughout this entire process for their own purposes. They have even been told by the DNC chair on live television that their reporting of the superdelegate numbers was wrong. They chose not to listen because they benefit from the drama of making the process look rigged.
>>72943565
Hope the pennies are worth it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5llLIKM9Yc
>>72943793
At this point I'm not sure if you're being willfully ignorant or if you just don't get it. Consider the case of the 2008 election. Clinton was supposed to be the inevitable nominee, right? Well, Obama secured more pledged delegates than Clinton did. What happened? The superdelegates went ahead and gave the nomination to Obama.
The same process would have played out in 2016 if Sanders had gotten more delegates like Obama did. Whether or not superdelegates were originally intended to protect party leaders is not relevant for 2016 because Clinton and the DNC establishment would have accepted the defeat, like they did in 2008, if Bernie had won fair and square.
But I'm sure next you're going to try to say that Obama was the Democratic establishment all along, right?
>>72941418
The problem is the black voters in America are OWED by the Clintons. Hillary would have easily won eight years ago if the black voters had not abandoned her for Obama. Black voters are NOT like the other voting blocks in that they ALL/MOST vote the same way. All you need to do to see if Hillary will win a state is look at the black percentage of voters. If high she wins. Eliminate the black voters and Bernie Wins.
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>>72941418
Bernie is worse than Ted Cruz
He talks about a corrupt political system hes the epitome.
Berniefags will defend this.
>>72944138
>He talks about a corrupt political system hes the epitome
What nonsense. Do you have a single shred of evidence to support this claim?
>>72944130
The black vote has certainly been disappointing, but there's not much we can do about it.
>>72944404
>0 CHANCE OF WINNING
>STAYS IN RACE ANYWAYS
kasich has a better chance of winning, it just how its been ran since day one of America, Socialist cuck Bernie wont change shit lmfao
>>72943445
That's the other thing I get all the time. Shitty Facebook memes about how I'm a welfare queen and just want free shit. Never mind that I made 90k last year, enjoy comprehensive, low deductible health/optical/dental insurance, free legal services, and a robust pension. Just ignore the fact that I have more in my brokerage account than the average American household makes in two years. I must be either financially ignorant or a shill for thinking Great Society programs are worth an extra $40 a week in taxes.
>>72944662
That does not prove he epitomizes the corrupt political system. Do you even know why our system is corrupted?
>>72944662
Kasich can't win you dumb nigger
>>72943418
holy shit this photo is epic
i <3 bernie :-/
>>72944709
What exactly do you have to gain from voting for Bernie then?
>>72944964
The benefit of a stronger society with a health middle class most likely. You don't have to be poor to be progressive. It's a matter of how you feel about the role of government.
>>72943418
fkin love this photo. every time I find something new, like those guys with MAGA hats on either side of Trump.
>>72945087
>stronger middle class
You mean to say everyone becomes middle class
I said it was going to be a trump vs hillary election like 4 months ago and I've been telling everybody I know since then that bernie has no hope
I can't wait to tell all my commie friends 'told ya'
>>72944964
Lemme give an example. After all expenses (mortgage, utilities, subscriptions, entertainment, etc.) I spend roughly 70% of my net pay a month. My ex gf makes like 35k a year and spends like 95% of her net pay. If she made more money, she'd spend more money, which ought to improve growth and prop up the value of my investments. The underlying idea is that a reduction in income inequality improves the "velocity" of money.
Or we could look at Canadian healthcare. Canadians can buy insurance to supplement the national program, and while comparable to my benefits they wind up being cheaper. If healthcare becomes cheaper, I can more effectively bargain for a better salary at review time.
Also, it seems to me that Keynesian economics has been the most reliable capitalist method, and I tend to have empathy for people who aren't me.
>>72945833
It's very surreal. I've had pic related saved months ago.
would have preferred it because I have more respect for Sanders than shillary at this point desu but oh well
