Most of us don't appreciate that we were born into a world without communism. The USSR's total collapse by 1991 marked the end of major communist rule and socialist economic policy in the world. The remaining communist governed states completely abandoned socialist doctrine and switched to capitalism and completely integrated into the international capitalist system. China is completely integrated into global trade and wholly capitalist. Many industries are state owned, but this is also true in the US and Europe, so it is a difference of degree, not of kind. Cuba is about to be reintegrated into the US's sphere of influence thanks to Obama, and North Korea is totally reliant on capitalist China for support. There is no country in the world that does not rely on international banking, international trade, and Capitalism for its existence. Remember this, and take time to appreciate it the next time you see some leftist SJW commie bastard waving a red flag. Remember how totally defeated they are.
Communism is as dead as feudalism.
a shame capitalism is turning to shit too tho
>>72928685
Nice false flag. After the two red-pilled threads you got notice to post thus?
>>72929561
We're in the late stages. In less than 100 years, labour will be mostly or entirely obsolete because of AI and robots. It's still better than it's ever been.
>>72929669
I don't know what you're talking about.
>>72928685
The Communist Elite just went underground you fool. They are bringing Marxism back in force through subversion of the mind by controlling almost all media and entertainment industries. Marxism has no boogie man now, there is no 'Evil Empire' to tell Communist sympathisers to run to when they preach traitorous slogans in the streets. This is why this happening >>72929561
>>72928685
Communism and capitalism are not the true opposites. Communism and free market are.
As we are losing economic freedom in accelerated pace in West I'd say that communism has won.
>>72929738
sure thing dale
>>72929738
Incoherent shitpost. Socialism and communism cannot be implemented secretly. They are public projects.
>>72929917
No they are true opposites. One is private ownership of capital, the other is public ownership of capital or worker ownership of capital and/or the means of production.
>>72928685
When do shills learn to write an OP that doesen't look like straight from a script?
>>72930166
No idea.
>>72930054
You need to take more seminars before posting here.
Meanwhile in the real world capitalism will destroy every western nation in a irreversible way
>>72930350
Meanwhile in the real world capitalism is responsible for the wealth and prosperity of every western nation.
Eurofags are such commies.
>>72930350
>will
has
On the bright side, world republic here we come!
>>72930417
You need to re-read your notes. Socialists aren't against capitalism. In the Early USSR they tried to recreate capitalism (Lenin's New Economic Program) to pass into Socialism. Learn.
>>72930350
This. Communism and Capitalism are both degenerate, globalist systems of materialism. It's literally Capitalism causing mass migration to the west in search of cheap labour. Remember Marx supported free trade to undermine the nation state.
Evola was right.
>>72928685
This is not something to celebrate.
Communism is bad, but a world in which globalist capitalism has no opposition is worse. You need competitors to keep you on your toes and to keep genuine ideological debate open.
SJWs are a partial side-effect of the death of Communism and the complete victory of the kind of capitalism that came of age in the 1980s.
I'll reiterate: I am not a communist. I do not believe the defeat of communism was anything but inevitable, but I do believe that we need a strong, obvious enemy with a different economic system for both cultural and political reasons. Islamic terrorism can't compete with the spectre of communism. I mourn it.
>>72930417
Good we have a car, next to my house there is a elementary school with 1 white for 5 african, or culture go to the numb, no more value, but i have a car so it's the better world
>>72930499
Socialists only implemented limited forms of state capitalism as a temporary measure. Socialists are absolutely against capitalism and seek to abolish it.
>>72930541
Oh how edgy. Too bad materialist philosophies lead to superior material resources and firepower. Only ideologies that win wars get to live.
>>72928685
>dead as feudalism
>America has the lowest social mobility of any 1st world country and is basically an aristocracy
oh...ok, so alive and well then?
>>72930541
Same kind of universalism indeed
>>72930544
The whole point of debates is that someone eventually loses.
>>72930600
It's more that you have running water, electricity, a shitposting device, food, and shelter.
Socialists would flood France with Africans too. The left wing parties are the ones in favour of doing it now.
>>72930654
You don't know what feudalism is.
>>72930608
There has never been some form of capitalism without a state. And the stronger the capital, the stronger the state and vice versa. Prove me wrong.
>>72930778
State capitalism is not capitalism with a state. Please lean English.
>>72928685
>>72930915
This is a stupid, paranoid fantasy that neo-Cons tell themselves. The USSR had almost no influence over American political thought. Socialism is still a dirty word and is a big reason why Sanders lost.
>>72930737
Implying it's because of capitalism and not technological advancement, even in urss water electricity, food, was accesible to all.
Primary needs like that are easy to obtain
>>72930818
>Please lean english
State Capitalism is a redundant term,it's actually a trotskyist term, funny you use it. It's Totsky's critique of the Soviet Union. He was wrong. It was socialism until 1956.
>>72930737
>The whole point of debates is that someone eventually loses.
Then we are doomed to this stagnation for quite a while.
That said, you can have losers while keeping the debate alive artificially, had the world been less desperate to kill the USSR.
>>72931035
>even in urss water electricity, food, was accesible to all.
No it wasn't. There were shortages of everything, and bread lines, and you were lucky to own a car.
>>72931050
State capitalism is not a redundant term, and it doesn't mean capitalism with a state. It means a specific form of capitalism. In the case of the USSR, in means that the Soviet government controlled and managed the means of production like a Capitalist.
>>72931228
This is really retarded. Should we keep flat Earthers around to "keep the debate open?" Are we in danger of stagnation because no one cares about what flat Earthers think?
>>72930737
>You don't know what feudalism is.
In feudalism, the ruling class was the aristocracy. In 2016, America has an aristocracy that rules over its peasants. Not much has changed.
>>72930915
You can't move a piece into checkmate if you're in check, you have to move out of check before you can do anything else.
That said communists are not gone. Be ever vigilant, society has relaxed and they're beginning to push communism in school.
Not socialism, not marxism, but full on communist ideology.
We need McCarthyism now more than we ever have, ever.
>>72931497
>Are we in danger of stagnation because no one cares about what flat Earthers think?
How many movies use flat-earthers as the generic bad guy to handwave why there's a new superweapon?
How many flat-earthers are a cultural touchstone in general for the enemy?
How many political parties have the roots of their (now entirely separate) ideology in the same flat-earthism as the major flat-earth state?
>>72928685
It's not over yet though.
>>72931513
In feudalism serfs work on land owned by the lord and own no private property. You are clueless.
>>72931731
This is irrelevant to your original point about keeping the debate alive.
crooked competition
i demand a rematch
with ameritards having their country demolished as their starting position
>>72931779
In America, the top 1% owns ~75% of all private property
If you think 2016 America is radically different than 1016 Europe, you're the one who is clueless.
>>72931779
My original point was about far more than keeping the debate alive.
See
>Keep you on your toes
and
>for both cultural and political reasons
>>72931497
>means a specific form of capitalism. In the case of the USSR, in means that the Soviet government controlled and managed the means of production like a Capitalist.
And yet it's not capitalism, it's socialism. Now you go to the camp of people that say 'that's not true socialism'.Just because the government manages stuff, it doesn't make it capitalistic. The thing is that in the free-world, governments also manage stuff, but they do it for the capitalists. There were no capitalists in the USSR.
>>72931861
You're retarded. Most white Americans own a house, and at least one car. Many have degrees. The nobility and king owned 100% of all the land in feudal times. There is no comparison to the average white American and the average European serf. Modern Americans live better than European kings.
>>72931901
My point addressed that. Flat Eathers don't do that either, and neither do communists. We have nothing to learn or gain from communists or flat Earthers. They are wastes of oxygen.
>>72932000
Most people argue that it is a form of Capitalism because the state controls everything, not the workers. I am not arguing that the USSR was capitalist.
>>72930054
">Socialism and communism cannot be implemented secretly."
>What is social engineering and cultural marxism
You must know nothing of subverting society by means of psychological manipulation. It's achieved without force.
>>72932109
You don't know what socialism and communism entail. The means of production has to be taken away from Capitalists at some point. That cannot be secretly done.
Protesting faggots and BLM have nothing to do with socialism.
>>72932082
>Flat Eathers don't do that either
Flat Earthers do not provide a cultural cornerstone enemy to our ideology on the superpower level. They do not provide an existential threat [mostly imagined] to our existence, nor do Islamic terrorists.
Strawman it down to a source of enemies in movies if you want: We don't have any, commies used to provide them.
>>72929726
Mike?
>>72932213
Yeah at some point when the currency collapses and we're all in WW3. The economic communist takeover has only just started, it's only socially communist right now. Power is slowly being centralized.
You're all closet leftists, just accept it.
Even hitler is a leftist.
>>72932600
Everyone born after 1900 is a leftist.
>>72929738
This. They only let the world think they've been defeated, so it would be easy for them to act against you in the shadows.
>"The finest trick of the devil is to persuade you that he does not exist." - Charles Baudelaire
To destroy communism forever, it must be purged completely--from every record in history to every communist adherent.
>“Heresy is like a tree, its roots lie in the darkness whilst its leaves wave in the sun and to those who suspect nought, it has an attractive and pleasing appearance. Truly, you can prune away its branches, or even cut the tree to the ground, but it will grow up again ever the stronger and ever more comely. Yet all awhile the root grows thick and black, gnawing at the bitter soil, drawing its nourishment from the darkness, and growing even greater and more deeply entrenched.
Such is the nature of heresy, and this is why it is so hard to destroy, for it must be eradicated leaf, branch, trunk and root. It must be exorcised utterly or it will return all the stronger, time and time again, until it is too great to destroy. Then we are doomed." - Galan Noirgrim, Master of the Ordo Malleus. (some WH40K stuff)
>>72932882
lol nice meme
>>72932213
This week Germany has banned airbnb, a company that allows you to rent your house (the one you pay thousands in taxes for already) to other people. More examples in other countries with Uber.
Private property doesn't exist, you don't really own anything, not even the means of production, given that you can only keep 50% of what they produce.
