Why does /pol/ hate having children so much?
>>72925288
Symbolic embodiment of responsibility and growing the fuck up.
because society will fuck with your child
>>72925288
Because tight vaginas are better than kids.
Why would you want to bring a child into a world that is in all probability going to go to complete shit in ten to twenty years?
Because /pol/ wants white race to die and let sandniggers rape their women to Islamize the world.
>>72925288
My genes are pretty shit. It would be a total crapshoot having a kid. Maybe they turn out okay, but they would be more likely to suffer.
>>72925498
Fuck off degenerate.
>>72925288
I'm poor.
>>72925288
When you don't have an option available to you, one tends to mentally justify why that option wasn't worth having.
Because women in current year are terrible
Because people make judgments on how to raise a child based on today's standards which is to coddle them and give them medals
Because that same kid can child services on you for punishing them, and label you as a abuser and ruin your social standing
Because raising a kid in a society that promotes degenerative behavior is sad and makes my ancestors weep for the future they died to build
>>72925288
this faggot
>>72925288
i dont think anyone here hates the notion of having children. they hate the baggage that comes with it. if youre a man youre gambling on your wife being a ride or die, and if she isnt welll here comes the divorce and the alimony while she takes your kids and leeches off you.
also with how shit the world is having children is really a scary prospect if you cant homeschool them. i dont want some fat feminist bitch telling my child that it can be whatever gender it wants and teaching/ encouraging sexuality at a very young age
>>72925498
Then move to a first world country where delivery is planned and they usually do a c-section anyway.
Post boipucci
Because I'm gay. I want to settle down with a single guy, and not worry about any negative influence I might have on a child's growth.
>>72925288
Because feminist laws havent been overturned yet
White birth rates arent going anywhere until they are
All you fags are "hurr, im gonna save the white race with my sheer cuck altruism and marry the first girl i see and get her pregnant, not whine about feminism needing to go like a little girl, im going to just hide my political beliefs, like a real man, and get cucked" because you're retarded and deep down you're still all cucks
I have three children, I just hate when people race mix and sentence their children to a worse life.
>>72925288
Its not /pol/ its /r9k/ betas lurkin.
>>72925351
pure robot
>>72925288
I don't.
When I was young it used to scare the shit out of me because I never figured I'd live this long, but as I get older I just want to settle down with a woman and start a family.
The hardest part is finding a good woman, and then the next hardest is finding a decently secure job.
>>72925789
You are a retard.
>>72925288
>tfw you'll never be a young dad
>tfw you'll be like forty and probably bang some dumb spic who needs a greencard out of desperation
>>72925747
It would be your fault if any of these actually happen.
Millions of people raise kids happily.
It's good man.
>>72926021
Life is a fight....unless you have rich parents.
Dont forget to plant a tree.
>>72926042
Thanks for the update, Dr. Dipshit.
>>72925843
I won't lie to you, I was never really comfortable with the idea of gays having children because of the influences it might have on a child, but I've learned to accept and be okay with it as long as the parents are not flaming homos. You seem sensible for what you just said, and you don't seem like a flaming pansy faggot, no offense. I seriously believe children can be influenced easily because I've seen gay couples who are immensely flaming gay who have kids, and their kids reflect what they do and how they act. I knew a flaming gay couple who had a 15 year old son and 2 younger daughters. The 15 year old has that gay lisp and kept saying how he wanted to marry a rich man when he gets older and adopt kids with him. I'm just saying.
>>72925288
we dont.
just get your shit together and have 5+ kids so we out number the retards in the upcoming class/race war.
>>72926102
And millions of people raise retarded leftist cucks
And I'm not a gambling man
>>72925288
Those are the lefties.
>>72926240
Most births in the US are not planned and are not c-sections.
I am schizotypal any children I have will be more likely to have mental disorders and also the whole trusting women thing.
>>72926114
I'm not one of the fortunate few who do.
Planted plenty of trees, though. Life is a fight... that's one good way to put it. Life's a bitch and then you die is another way haha.
>>72925288
I sometimes see kids walking with their parents when I'm out driving. It brings a smile to my face, and my chest gets really heavy. I tell myself someday I'll be there, with my own kids.
But that's a lie. Some people are meant to suffer, its simply who we are. I'll never have kids, or even meet a woman who I would consider being the mother of my children.
This world needs to burn away. I just hope it happens soon.
>>72925865
Worse lives are good. It will either break your kid or he will overcome and become great.
>>72925288
Only burgers do. And it's for the better as none of them can raise anything except their cock when they watch furry porn.
>>72926471
My mom got a c-section for me
She was like 43 and this was her last chance at having a third child
>>72925690
Women tend to be an example of picture related much more mate, especially when it comes to that whole black men nonsense.
>>72926615
I didn't say c-sections don't happen, just that they aren't the most common type of birth in the country by far.
>>72926278
Yeah, it's honestly not easy to be gay and not flaming. Makes it hard to find a guy to be with, because most guys are looking for the obvious rainbow shirts and flamer haircuts. Plus the flamers tend to be the bottoms, and usually the tops are more masculine and semi-normal (unless they're into the whole master-servant collar wearing bullshit.)
When gays I know say things like they don't influence children, or that they weren't sexually affected by their past (when most were going through emotional problems or were abused), or that they need more and more dick, it's disgusting. Sexual revolution was the worst thing to happen to gay culture, which really did used to be respectable. This is why I don't want it to happen to women, why I don't support the new wave of feminism.
>>72925288
Why raise children into a shit world? I'd feel better raising them in the medieval ages because at least then it was just a aristocracy based on religion and not a bourgeois based on humanism.
>>72925601
Anybody with a brain suffers at some point in their life.
>>72925789
>and they usually do a c-section anyway.
I refuse to believe that anybody could be as incredibly fucking stupid as you are pretending to be
>>72926783
Male role models are probably more important to children than female role models- you just need to act like any normal dad would. What do you think is worse for a kid, being raised by abusive retarded white trash mom and dad or by gay fathers?
>>72926783
Funnily enough I'm a top and I'm into master, servant but I'm also fiercly anti-gay marriage and dislike anyone, regardless of sexuality who seriously thinks corporately funded progressive groups are somehow sincere and actually concerned about the problem.
Neatly every LGBT group, every progressive movement is funded by some company.
>>72926806
>>72926783
You guys could probably raise decent kids together.
>>72927004
>Comparing things to the worst example to make it look good
I hate this fucking example, especially as a gay male. A literal argument saying "At least you aren't them"
It would be better if you just left it at male role models.
>>72926615
>my mom got a c-section so everybody gets c-sections
Looks like you suffered some hypoxia while they were arguing about where to make the cut
>>72926615
you can only have 2 c sections.
>>72927081
Yeah but if you want a white baby you might be adopting from some trashy, poor and even underage couple- so you could save a kid from a life of that.
>>72927132
Not true, my mother in law had five children, all by c-section.
>>72927060
I'm already in a relationship and I don't want children, not in this day and age. Unless I'm certain I have land and property for them to inherent. Life is hell not having a family buisness or trade.
>>72927210
No thanks, I'd rather get a surrogate then raise white trash children.
>>72927010
Fucking agreed, and you'd be surprised how hateful gays can be to other gays that are members of groups that aren't approved of. Many look down on military members or gun owners, and companies fund it just for brownie points and publicity. When you see things like Oreo making rainbow cookies, they know they'll get hater comments, and they'll copy/paste a snappy reply, knowing it'll get screenshotted and shared, free advertising, man. Any gays who think that leftists really care for them are deluded, imho
>you're gay, hooray! :3
>can't defend yourself with a gun
>can't express controversial opinions
>they think you fit a certain mold that all gays fit
And as far as the master servant stuff, I'd be into that too, but more in private. A guy hugged me in public and I got angry looks, I just don't think the world is ready to deal with the same public affection from gays that straights are allowed to show.
If we improve our culture, I'm sure it'll be more acceptable to adopt.
>>72926783
My cousin's gay and his son's already more masculine and well adjusted than most boys raised by straight parents I know.
Although lesbians are another matter they seem like shit parent central.
no point in an overpopulated society that only cares about fake online people
Because I look at the world today, and I think I'd really be a gigantic fucking asshole if I wanted to introduce another life to this shitty grind.
>>72927314
I forgot about surrogacy. But, by the way, you seriously only need to be able to meet a kid's most basic needs and love them. It's really not that demanding or expensive or anything. It's important to have children, if you feel that in your heart- but if you don't, that's okay too.
>>72926372
Then dont suck at being a parent you spineless fucker, grow a pair and try harder.
>>72927412
>overpopulated society
lmao
>>72927410
>gays
"We're decent parents, we try to raise our son to be well-adjusted, yet open-minded - something that makes some people upset. A lot of haters want us to raise our kids on traditional family values and the Bible, and we're trying to raise a well-rounded child, but not a close minded one."
>lesbians
"DYKE PRIDE REEEEEEEEEEEEE SCISSOR ME TIMBERS!"
>>72927315
Just do it sneakily, when my partner was on holiday I just kind of teased him with my legs and shit while travelling or when we were at the beach I'd hug him underwater. Just need to be smart about it. Besides public affection just doesn't seem appropiate. If I'm going to kiss I want to get down and passionate.
>>72927476
I don't give a shit about moral obligations, and I'm fine if not happy about responsibilities. I just don't want a child with shit genes, if I'm going to raise a child It'll be my own.
I'm going through an unplanned pregnancy atm and I want to keep it but my lib bf is making me abort because of financial reasons
>>72925288
Because women have bloated up the state and now it interferes in family life, men are fucked over by this system especially by alimony and family courts. It's simply not a good deal having children in this climate, especially if you're a man who has a decent amount of assets.
A huge number of modern women are degenerates anyway, once you remove all the ones who are divorced or have kids, all the ones who have tattoos, all the ugly ones, all the ones who are obese, you're left with a tiny pool of datable women who are in extremely high demand. Juice ain't worth the squeeze.
>>72925576
Funny, coming from an Indonesian cockroach.
You're just jealous because you're a pathetic subhuman who can't even rape white women like the sandnigs do. The only reason why Indonesian cockroaches aren't as "extreme" (supposedly) as Arab Muzzies.
>>72927557
Both sound cancerous. Traditional family values aren't based around fundie or bible, it's based around a millenia of succesful child raising. It has become significantly worse latetly since people have dropped the old harsh father attitude and adopted a passive-aggressiveness which just makes a child paranoid. Let your son know he's been a little shithead, but tell him to better himself afterwards. Enabling your kids is literal cancer.
>Haters
uuuggh.
Makes me cringe.
>>72927562
I was more responding to your point about needing land/property for your kid. And I didn't mean moral obligations, just, if you feel love at the idea of having a kid you should.
>>72927532
living as the world does is toxic to humanity
>>72927716
I don't really, not in this day and age. I think the next fifty years should be a struggle of adults, children in the future will be screwed, quite literally.
>>72927647
If you're serious you should talk to a local pastor or church group and ask for guidance. They'll often help with legal issues like this, even if you aren't religious at all.
>Making me
He can't make you do anything short of murdering your child himself. It's your body, your choice desu.
>>72925789
c sections deprive your baby of vital vagina bacterias it needs on the way out
>>72927774
But by not having kids you're not living as the world does.
The fertility rate is falling below the replacement rate
>>72927532
What the fuck is wrong with Portugal?
I want so badly to have kids. Doesn't feel like I'm ever gonna find the right person though.
>>72927794
Well, that's cool, I just love kids and like to encourage people to enjoy them too. I've got two sons, trying for our third and planning on eight overall- if shit hits the fan I'll have a clan of young men to fight alongside.
>>72925288
They killed my parents.
>>72927647
What that other person said- if you're not just joking, no one can make you have an abortion,
i want a son but i dont want a wife or a daughter
dont want another mans kid either
my best bet is to impregnate a woman win the 50/50 coin toss and get a boy and pray she dies after during labor or something
god help me
>>72927944
I always relate big families in my head to hicks and white-trash, not even trying to be offensive but they're generally the only families I see popping out as much as africans or arabics. Probably for the same reasons.
>>72928077
Mormons are the definition of wealthy peaceful whites and they pump out kids by the dozens
>>72925288
Gross wood panelling and door frames. That shit is absolutely thin welfare tier.
Guaranteed government assisted living. Stop leeching of us to raise your womb turd.
>>72928077
Maybe I am a hick or white trash, I guess, I just fucking love my children and nothing makes me happier than growing my family. Both of us come from rich families, but we're pretty poor now, so maybe you're right.
>>72927814
Don't worry, your mother, especially, has plenty of vaginal bacteria to go around.
>>72927886
Gipsys are a thing, no joke, they fuck like rabbits and live off of money that they get per extra child, plus the government gives them free houses while ACTUAL portguese people have to pay for them.
Either that or that data is fake af
>>72928162
Oh yeah, I was raised in Utah and most of my family are Mormons, so that probably contributed to my desire to have so many kids.
>>72928162
Don't doubt that, but form experience I barely see succesful big white families anymore. Mormons are more then likely succesful but there is a lot more hicks and white-trash out there.
>>72928185
Dude, my advice, don't bring anymore.
You really need to have money for that shit, raising a poor family is not a happy future, money isn't happiness, but your children having the same oppurtunities as others is what they need. Speaking from experience being raised in a poor single family is hell.
I’d like to have a kid. Of course, you have to have a date first.
>>72925288
That might be the cutest daughter in the world. I guess the biggest fear for me is what if they aint cute? What if you have an ugo only a parent can love?
>>72925288
Do you think that the daughter is mirin?
I mean, Sieg Mund Freud said that it's natural for little girls to dream about their fathers fugging them.
>>72928382
I'm definitely going for eight. Our kids have all of the food, clothing, toiletries, toys and other crap that they could ever want, provided by us. We get help in one way, my grandpa (massively rich) buys each kid EE-bonds for their birthdays that they'll use for college. Building white families is way too important, I'm not going to bow down to the globalists and deprive myself of something that is rooted in my soul.
>>72928671
Fair enough, just don't raise children if you can't afford to bring them up right.
I've got one cooking op
>>72926783
>>72928812
congrats mate
>>72928794
Definitely. What helps is that we live on a farm, my partner and I built our own house together, dug a well on our property so we've got free water, have a dozen chickens, a few cows and goats, and a garden with enough produce to keep our family well fed. We have very little costs, which gives us plenty to afford the junk we want.
>>72928912
Man that sounds like a fucking dream
Good lord I've love to live that life.
As well as fix cars.
>>72928231
it's fake
>>72928912
Also, when it comes to the house did you literally build it up or hire some builders?
>>72928812
Please knock me up
>>72929017
Do it! I never thought I'd be into this life, I don't feel like a hick, but I fell in love and my partner and I just thought the idea felt right. It just came to us, really.
>>72928162
literally every Mormon girl from my high school was engaged by 20 and married by 22 then having kids like rabbits.
>>72929273
Built it completely by ourselves. We hired people for the plumbing only, and had people come make sure it was all sound and safe of course. It cost so much less to build ourselves.
>>72929305
You keep using partner, I mean you're having children so you must be straight right?
>>72929353
Noice, did you have to educate yourself upon all the proportions and shit?
I'd love to see photos if you've got'em.
>>72929342
Man the way his eyes are apart make him look really degenerate.
>>72929398
I'm just talking about my husband, didn't want to be annoying.
My husband did most of the research, he had to read a lot but there are tons of tutorials for DIY building, it's pretty trendy these days. No photos, though.
>>72929692
Can't tell if you're either roleplaying or a faggola.
>>72927532
P-Portugal?
Is there still hope?
>>72929800
What, why??
>>72925288
It's the women that go along with them, children are fine
>>72925288
Can't find a good woman to have kids with these days
Do you really want the same lips kissing your children that have been wrapped around Tyrone's cock?
Not to mention the money you need to be bringing in to afford a house and comfy lifestyle for your kids
>>72929835
I'm not sure why a woman would be on this board, let alone actively want to follow their own individual thought. Just unlikely, I'm sure there is intelligent women but they're all to caught up in being a social group or not being outcasted.
>>72925288
Population Control
Eugenics
General Authoritarian Values.
Bullshit like that.
>>72929902
Mate, the fact that you think women are out to get you and sleep with blacks is probably a error on your side, not others.
>>72925288
I want a white wife, a scandinavian wife, a slav wife and a dutch wife
>>72929493
Morons get real degenerate when they're not around other Mormons but hey they gotta get a release some how
>>72929342
> Who the fuck bleaches their kids hair?
>>72929493
yeah but its strangely intimidating in that "i might switch your prescription for cyanide and know who to talk to" kinda way.
>>72927886
>>72929805
Wait a sec...
are these guys seriously surprised that an African country like Portugal has high fertility rate?
>>72925288
>>72926056
>>72926615
>>72927532
>>72927871
>>72929279
>>72929342
does no one check ids anymore fucking hell guys. this place is fucking retarded
>>72929960
Are you telling me that the /pol9k/ memes aren't real?
>>72929921
That's kind of mean! I hang out on pol a pretty stupid amount of time. My husband and I are best friends, we don't really hang out with anyone else.
>>72930056
/pol/ was better without IDs and without Reddit flags
>>72929976
a japanese wife, a vietnamese wife, a chinese wife
>>72925288
>Don't talk to me or my wife's daughter ever again.
>>72925288
I'd like to have children but I also accept that it's impossible to raise good kids now.
As soon as they get that smartphone you are completely fucked. It was hard enough getting kids to listen to their parents without them carrying a brainwashing device 24/7
>>72925288
God this picture makes me rage. This numale fag with a shitty beard, just had to take a picture to put on instagram didn't he. Can't even appreciate a special moment with his daughter.
>>72930056
No who has time to care who's samefagging?
I don't even look at flags.
>>72930127
IDs are okay
cuts down on shit posting and kills samefags
>>72930073
Memes are very board thing my friend, they can either be based on internet culture or an actual proceeding in reality.
>>72930099
Mean or not, it's a reality.
How much women actively get to the levels men do in individual thought? Women just aren't on the level of men let alone physically. I don't believe in inferiority or superiority, personally I think it's a stupid concept because even if I'm above average in terms of height and endowment, there's probably another white bloke who's 8'5 inches and 6'5 feet tall, even if that is a rarity. But there's also more then a few billion who are probably below me. TLDR women might not be as smart or strong as men, but you're still valuable to straights purely due to attraction and shit.
>>72925288
I don't, I just can't take the gamble financially to invest in a wife.
>>72930512
Women dominate the average. Men can be really stupid or really great or anywhere in between while most women are on the same basic level. I'm pretty stupid myself, honestly, but there are lots of women who are actually pretty admirable. But it's definitely not a reality that all women fit your ideas. Not all women are really into social groups.
>>72930891
Dominanting the average isn't exactly a thing to be proud of, just means you're mediocre. The fact that men aren't limited, means they're more then likely to be the type of people who've made mark on history, just on their community. I doubt it, few and far between. Besides the modern mentality helps little to make women actually strive to achieve. Do you deny women caring about status or being outcasted? Plenty of conservative women exist, but they're kept silent and will tolerate anything just due to the submissive nature of women.
>>72930167
an aussie wife, a thai wife, a jewish wife
>>72925288
I can barely afford myself. How can I live with myself if I brought an unwanted child into the world?
I despise children. I keep getting the "oh I didn't care about having kids either until I had mine" and I have to explain it's not that I don't care it's that I hate kids. They're loud and annoying and I would just murder mine and say it was SIDS if I fucked up and had one.
>>72931123
I never said it was something to be proud of, but my real point is that yes, most women are the same, but there are outliers (and I'm not saying I am one)- I don't think all women care about social status. I know some women who are just odd and different. I care, I can't help it, I don't want people to dislike me. But, I also don't have social groups or friends.
>>72925552
THIS SO MUCH
>>72931885
I know people like you. In all honesty what I'm saying isn't to take a shit on you. I'm just espousing what I think upon reality. I think if you've read my posts I've said I am homosexual. I just don't find women intellectually strong at all, I don't see any female Slavoj Zizecks or Stirners. I've got to say it is probably just due to nature. Women just probably aren't hard-wired to do what men do. /r9k/ might spew that girls rebel and all that bullshit but it's doubtful, most rebellious actions woman do just comes from another emotion, not because of logical proceeding.
Like, I'd make a good bet most women are conservative but because of their pathetic husband do shit like cuckoldry. I'd say good half of the problems women have today is because men are pathetic, in the west at least. Doesn't seem to be a problem in russia and all.
>>72925288
Fear I guess?
When you get a kid literary nothing stops your wife from taking the kid, half your shit and get money monthly from you, literary nothing.
All she has to do is go to court say that you don't love her anymore you don't go out with her at all, or just not bother with it hit herself in the head and go to the police, there is absolutely nothing preventing woman from doing this in those times...
>>72925552
>Ending your 4 billion year legacy because some hard times are ahead
Just waiting for Trump to make america great again.
So I can know they'll grow up in a world they can be proud of :')
>>72925288
Because most of us are young adults
>>72927814
>implying you cant just rub your pussy juice on the baby's mouth after
I wouldn't mind a kid, but my life is a God damn fucking mess and will be that way for another 6 years.
Also I'm clinically crazy. Not that it would affect my desire to have a child given a scenario in which I could support one, but it makes finding a good wife and mother a little more difficult than usual.
And really that's the most important factor: A good partner.
>>72925288
I have kids. They're awesome.
The wife and I effectively redpilled them from a young age by watching cop shows and so on. It didn't take long for the kids to notice that most of the criminals are of a swarthy persuasion.
>>72930271
Well thats why you look like a retard in any given thread.
>>72933597
This desu.
How selfish can you get
>>72925288
because they become adults
>>72925288
I wouldn't mind having kids. However finding a woman that
is not currently or have spent her entire youth on the cock carousel is pretty troublesome.
>>72925288
Because humans are garbage, why would I want more garbage around?
