Does he actually stand a chance against Hillary?
I don't have too much in common with him when it comes to policy, but i do think he's entertaining. I would also be lying if i said i wouldn't want to know what a Trump presidency would look like.
However, how on earth would he beat Hillary? The majority of the media is constantly grasping straws at him, and he's kind of right about the woman's card thing. There will be people all over the country voting for her just because of:
>First female president!
I don't see how he would have a majority of voters on his side in the end against Hillary. There isn't much he could really do to grab voters from the other side. He could tone down and become more 'presidential', that could bring a small amount of undecided voters to his side, but at the same time, he loses his anti-establishment appeal for the most part.
To be honest, i think his best chance would be pandering to Bernie supporters. Though that would be difficult considering how a lot of them are New Deal democrats or Independents. Trump has already isolated himself quite a bit from his own party, perhaps if trump takes some of the more controversial ideas from the libertarian left and applies it to his own policy he could bring In Sanders' supporters. Maybe if he reinstated his own previous positions on legalizing drugs, I'm not sure of what else he could do though.
So, what are Trumps chances of beating someone like Hillary? Be honest with me, how feasible is it?
>>72918737
>Does he actually stand a chance against Hillary?
No, he doesn't.
Trump is painted as the evil man, if he can just make Hillary look more evil there is a chance. Otherwise Hillary will be winning if Trump cant pull anything spectacular.
>>72918737
Probably not.
Now have fun with it.
>Republican nomination process
>Entire establishment blows their collective wad firing everything they can at Trump to stop him
>Nothing sticks, nothing else to really dig up on him
>Democratic nomination process
>Hillary is handed softballs, and her main opponent refuses to attack her on anything with merit
Yeah, this is gonna be fun.
>>72918737
DOES HE HAVE A CHANCE AGAINST HIS REAL OPPONENT? BIDEN? ALL HAIL CHAOS.
Considering half of Bernie's voters will vote Trump expect a Reagan-tier landslide
Do you honestly believe that a mere mortal could hope to stand a challenge to the God Emperor?
He beat 15 men, a rat, and some cunt for the Republican nomination. Bill's old cum bucket will be cake. MAGA!
>>72918737
DESTROY HER
from the right, and from the left
>>72918945
>Republican electorate versus general electorate
two different things senpai
>>72918737
They are really only fighting for the 10% of the population that doesn't already have a favorite party, and that remaining 10% are dumb as hell. Trump could very well win this. This will be the dirtiest fight ever.
>>72919012
Where are you getting statistics like that.
The closest thing to that is like 35-40% of sanders supporters not voting or just voting green party
>>72919246
The point is that there is really nothing else "shocking" to say about Trump that hasn't already been said, if there was some bombshell that would destroy him in the general, it would've been dug up already by his own party and used against him 6 months ago. Hilary, however, is enjoying protection from the media, a protection that isn't going to help her when Trump finally goes after her in force.
>>72918737
He's easily going to turn her into the face of political corruption in an election cycle where corruption leading to political dysfunction is the number one issue. She can't go one week without breaking the law even during the election, from laundering money through her victory fund to coordinating illegally with the Correct the Record PAC. He's going to call her a criminal and say she's been taking bribes her whole life (while holding up the receipts) every hour of every day from now until the general election.
The only people who can't see this coming from a mile away are the democratic party establishment and its loyalists, who are blinded by arrogance. Bernie supporters should prepare themselves for eight years of blame-shifting by party whores.
>>72919379
No, the point is that the general electorate despises Trump and won't elect him. He did well in the GOP primary because the GOP is full of retards.
>>72919553
RCP average has Clinton ahead by only 7 points nationally. And all of the factors are against Clinton in this election. I wouldn't be so sure about that.
>>72919379
But doesn't she still have protection from the media sort of?
Future headlines:
>Trump hates women and is attacking Hillary solely based n that reason!
>>72918737
We have 6 months to ruin her.
SHE>IS>FUCKED
>>72919899
Except the media loves Trump's flamboyant outrageousness. He knows exactly how to manipulate the media. They can't ignore him the way they ignored Bernie.
>>72919847
>Nationally
Irrelevant. Election is held state by state. NEXT.
>>72919944
If /pol/ ever wanted to do anything that mattered now is the time
>>72919944
THIS IS WHAT WE WERE MEANT FOR
Seriously if we got off our asses and made pretty looking infographs, image macros and what ever dumb shit people on facebook eat up. We may have a chance of bring down this shedevil
Donald Trump: Start Me Up! Watch it now! Awesome!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oBze2CPbMPU
.........
>>72920158
Yes, but the national poll contradicts your statement that the population as a whole despises Trump and so Clinton is a sure thing. Honestly, the average person probably despises both of them.
People thought the GOP establishment would be able to contain Trump.
They were wrong.
>>72919505
She's very good with words. Especially her delivery of them.
She paints her lines with such confidence, it makes even the dumbest things she says look like they have merit.
The bystander voters look at her laughing off a completely legit thing Trump says and say, "hey, she sounds like she knows what she's doing.".
>Trump sells out arenas all over the country with thousands of people
>Hillary can't even fill up hotel lobbies and donut shops with 2 dozen people
>Trump has men, women, blacks, latinos, gays, fucking everyone
>Hillary has women and niggers
And when Trump starts BTFO Hillary in the debates, some of the women are going to jump ship and hop on the Trump Train.
I suggest you start believing in the genuine possibility of a Trump presidency. It will soften the blow on election day.
The "Hillary will be the next president" meme is only just a meme. Nobody wants her.
>>72920294
>>72920209
YES
Post it everywhere
SHE WAS KICKED OFF THE WATERGATE INVESTIGATION
SHE BRAGGED ABOUT GETTING A CHILD RAPIST OFF BY BLAMING THE CHILD
HILLARY IS A MONSTER SPREAD THE WORD
>>72918808
Shill.
I've never met a single person who honestly or even ironically supported Hillary
'first female president' isn't a thing. women don't get elected just for being women.
trump is a lock to win the popular vote. he's not a favorite to win the election.
>>72920294
That's not what we're good at.
We're good at one thing only and that's memeing.
We win through laughter.
>>72920550
charisma trumps 'being good with words.' period.
and the most charismatic candidate has won each election since hw bush.
>>72920782
Hillary isn't even good with words though. Her debate skills are amateur at best.
For once in her life she's going to go up against an opponent who gives zero fucks about political correctness and it's scaring her to death.
>>72920563
That is because Hillary is corrupt and she is unable to excite people.
Even the people on the left that know she is full of shit will vote for her because of the strawman that is Trump. They would be voting against him, not for someone.
>>72918737
Plenty of women hate hillary. My mother and grandmother almost always vote Democrat- they're voting Trump.
Trump will be the heavy favorite after Labor Day. It's a great time to be alive.
>>72920550
>She's very good with words. Especially her delivery of them.
From what I've seen, that's a myth that's been built up around her. She's a terrible campaigner - despite being the party darling she lost to first-term senator Obama in 2008 and got winded by "socialist" Bernie this primary season. She's completely unable to connect with people and comes off as disingenuous, which is going to wreck her when Trump repeatedly calls her a criminal. And I'm not the only one who thinks she's a bad candidate - not by a long shot.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2015/09/14/clinton-2016-campaign-keeps-sinking-because-shes-a-bad-candidate
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/12/hillary_clinton_just_doesnt_get_it_shes_already_running_a_losing_campaign/
>Clinton personifies the meritocracy that to an angry middle class looks increasingly like just another privileged caste.
Damn, that hurts.
>>72920782
Even before HW... Reagan won.... even going back to Nixon Kennedy.... Nixon was the heavy favorite and JFK beat him with charisma.
>>72920563
>>Trump has men, women, blacks, latinos, gays, fucking everyone
This is not true. He may have won them in the REPUBLICAN PRIMARY, but he will not win those groups in the general electorate.
Why does /pol/ not understand that the GOP electorate and the general electorate are two vastly different things?
>>72921118
You can stretch it back to the beginning of time. It's not a phenomena that started in the last 50 years.
People will always vote for the guy who is charismatic and "looks like someone you can have a beer with" over the other guy.
This is something that will never change.
>>72918737
>Does he actually stand a chance against Hillary?
You should be asking the opposite.
Outside of superdelegates she is basically tied with Bernei Sanders, a socialist who only appeals to freshmen college students. So with all the democratic party propping her up, she still has basically no margin.
Lets look at her supporters: extremely fringe identity groups. That's all she has at this point, so if you think the extremes, not even the normal members of gay, black, mexican groups, are as numerous as middle america, then you will be sadly mistaken on election day.
Donald should just say something like "Do you really want HER to be remembered as the first female president?"
Trump is the only one who can siphon black votes away from her
>>72921240
Who do you not understand that /pol/ isn't one person?
Advice for trumpfags:
Dig up evidence of Hillary's un-PC or racist views.
"She was against gay marriage!" won't be enough because SJWs consider gays amongst the most privileged of disadvantaged groups.
Her black supercriminals, etc, are much better lines of attack for discouraging "le first female president!"
Point out that Thatcher in the UK was the UK's only female PM, imply it's because she did a bad job [whether you believe it or not] and wasn't progressive on social issues. Imply you'd love for there to be more than one female president and that means the first one has to be a good one, which means Hillary isn't eligible, which means Trump is the only option and the Democrats can pick another woman later on.
>>72921240
You're pigeonholing the Republican electorate and ignoring Trump's appeal to non republican identifying people, as we've already seen him broaden the base to people who have never voted Republican. Having the spotlight on him without taking shots from every direction will give him a laughably easy platform to change minds, and since he's starting from the worst possible handicap he will easily make gains.
>>72921450
This would actually bode well with normal fags
Let's meme it
>>72921372
>So with all the democratic party propping her up, she still has basically no margin.
Yes, this is the truth. Democratic party loyalists think they're the average sensible American while their party has become the neoliberal handmaiden to the economic ruling class. The country has turned against their politics (on both sides), but they're too arrogant to see it.
Just point out how "first black president!!" worked out. Fucking identity politics.
>>72921755
Liberals fondly remember Obama as a good president though. This strategy wouldn't work.
>>72921450
"I'm running to make America great again. She's running to pardon herself before the FBI kicks down her door."
It practically writes itself. Democratic party is completely fucked.
>>72921450
good thinking actually
>>72921753
probably arrogance and a mix of necessity: to get elected they've moved left but they've gone too far.
Probably mostly arrogance though since Obama's terms have been a field day for hardcore liberals, they're even getting high paying jobs from their academia tier professions.
Hillary is the kind of obnoxious mother-in-law figure that nobody wants in their home on Christmas Eve because she'll ruin the whole evening by injecting her snide, passive aggressive remarks about what a piece of shit her daughter's husband is for having a taxidermied 8 point Elk from 3 years ago mounted on the wall where she'd prefer to see a hand-painted portrait of herself.
Trump is the kind of obnoxious father-in-law figure that will see your mounted Elk head and raise you a fucking polar bear hide in front of the fireplace, before personally moving your Elk head into your office where it belongs and putting a hand painted portrait of himself in its place.
Between the two of them, it doesn't even matter who wins because Trump will Make America Great Again just by having the light shine upon his combover.
>>72921450
"I'm running because I want to make america great again, she is running because she wants to be the first female president!"
>>72918737
She holds the gender card high.
Puts it down.
And hangs women out to dry.
>>72919379
If there was anything "shocking" to say about Hilary it'd've been dragged up like 20 years ago.
She's been in politics for decades, had Presidential candidates going rabid against her 3 times, and also had 2000 scandals, none of which have stuck.
Both of them have been opposition-researched to mars and back already, there's nothing new coming out. It's actually odd how similar they are.
>>72918737
Shillary has done nothing but hide for the last year and still has managed to basically lose the popular vote in her party to a no-name Jew who is the most passive candidate in memory. Even though she should by all rights win easily, I just can't see her doing it, she'll find a way to keep fucking it up, she's not once made a surge or been proactive this entire election.
>>72922577
at this rate sanders might even get the nomination, I'm scared lads.
>>72920294
That kind of gay shit is what Redditors do, we have the will of reality warping memes on our side
>>72922342
>to get elected they've moved left but they've gone too far.
I don't see that at all. Yes, they've chosen a few key non-sensical social issues to blow out of proportion in order to appeal to their disaffected base while masking their economic policy, and it is true that this has enraged the growing reactionary right (and, increasingly, independents). But neoliberal economic and trade policy is hardly "left". The Democratic party has been steadily moving right towards hardline pro-corporate positions while faking left on social issues rich donors don't care about since the Clinton administration.
>>72918737
>This meme that Hillary is some kind of political juggernaut
She lost to some no name nigger in '08 because the Dems knew that only she could lose to the Republicans after 8 years of Bush.
>>72918737
The only Hillary supporter I know is my Dad.... that's it and he's been a hardcore democrat his entire life and can't into computers or anything besides TV.
Seriously if Hillary is so destined to win, where are her supporters? I have seen vehement Trump/Bernie supporters flood the streets, knock on my door, invade social media, get into debates, and generally get in the media's face and cause shitstorms and conversations.
I have seen nothing of the sort from Hillary 'supporters'.
Now there are people who are voting for Hillary I know of, but they seem to hate her as well and only say they are voting for her cause they don't want Trump. Her motivated based is oddly silent and her vocal supporters are incredibly bitter.
Honestly she's a fuck up away from making the election impossible for her by making her easily offended voters to embittered to be arsed to get up and vote come November.
And honestly I don't blame them they got slapped by their own party and told to get in line and stop chasing fairy tells (fairy tells that they honestly hold dear). Its one thing to hear that from your opponent, but from your representative?
>>72922619
Honestly
sanders would actually be tough because enough people believe commie drivel.
Hillary needs to win and then get crushed by Trump
>>72922619
Good, he'll be 10 times easier to destroy than Hillary.
>>72922619
Actually, TYT is reporting rumors that Biden may be unilaterally nominated by the Democratic party establishment at the convention if Clinton gets indicted.
>>72922748
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKqJt6v7S8U
>>72922737
No one over 19 takes him seriously.
Not even niggers are dumb enough to vote for him.
>>72922748
>biden
known as literally a Joke...."Uncle Joe"
Yeah ok
>>72918737
Clinton have zero chance of winning. Absolutely zero.
1. Every time someone attacks Trump, he gets more popular. Meanwhile Clinton can't get people to shut up about her many scandals.
2. Many Sanders supporters, including myself, want one thing above all else "no more politicians" We want an outsider. Sanders was that, but he won't get the nomination, so many of us are switching to Trump.
It's time to start calling him President Elect Donald Trump, cause this election ended today, everything after this is just for show.
>>72922619
He might win the popular vote, but she has literally almost all of the superdelegates.
Pic related is from Pre-Indiana where he did well, but it's physically impossible for him to do well enough short of Hillary dying earlier than expected.
>>72918737
>what /pol/ will tell you
"Yeah, of course. She has no chance. All the democrats I know will not vote for her. 2008 is not like 2016; she does not have a nigger running for president. Trump will demolish her"
>what all the surveys, polls (they all show Clinton kicking Trump's ass), and general public will tell you
"Trump is a fucking racist pig who doesn't like minorities. Go Clinton!
Gee anon. /pol/ is Trump shill central so of course /pol/ will tell you Trump will win
>>72922850
Nible as fuck Navigator
Sure.
Now all we have to do is discredit Shillary by making memes.
Let's find her animal spirit first.
Ted was the rat
Trump is the lion
What is Hillary?
>>72922989
The cunt
>>72922850
Assuming you're an ackshual Bernout, you're in the extreme minority. I can see a lot of Bernfags not voting, but I can't see anymore than a few percent switching to Trump unless he unleashes some cray-ass shit.
>>72922577
>lose the popular vote in her party
Incorrect. Clinton has received many more votes than Bernie.
Wow it's like /pol/ doesn't care about being right at all. They just want to continue spewing their nonsense regardless.
>>72922659
It seems like identity politics is the only issues they have campaigned on recently. As far as economic policy I don't really know where they stand other than income inequality and the gender pay gap issue is something they want to control.
Corporations seem to have been willing to follow along on the social issue campaign, everyone thinks that is the cultural norm now.
>>72918737
Many people are never going to vote woman for president. So he does. But there is more to it that sexism:
I think that this election may spawn some serious results.
both parties are going to select person that many people in them hate (gop trump for not being conservative, dems hilary for being suportive of her husbands mysoginy and establishment)
many people will thus look at third party candidates or write in primary losers, and this may be begining of end of two party system as we know it. i belive trump+hilary will get at most, 85%, more likely 75-80% of votes
we could see one, or even two other people beat ten points. that will not change outcome, but shape drasticaly future elections.
back to topic. Trump and his campaing managers are clever. I belive he just plays stupid to strike masses. I expect that he will fuel it and anonymously create movement for democrats to write in bernie or webb or anyone. Not taking clinton votes for himself, that would be imposible for him, but eroding them away. using this unconvetional strategy he has chance
>>72922989
Weasel, naturally
>>72918737
Itt: self soothing butt hurt liberals
>>72922484
Shocking fact:
Hillary has murdered anyone with knowledge of her shit. There's plenty out there as well.
>>72923081
You got proofs for that?
>>72922989
The snotty mother-in-law.
It's an accurate analysis of her character, and everyone can relate.
>Either way leads to /pol/ trump/clinton shitposts for at least four years
We all win in the end
>>72922989
the vulture?
>>72922640
Then get some Redditors to do it
>>72923119
>It seems like identity politics is the only issues they have campaigned on recently.
Yeah, they have to. I think they know they can't win as Republican Lite, but their base and their campaign financiers have diametrically opposed interests when it comes to economic policy. They've tried to get around this by pretending to fight hard to win on economic issues (but inevitably losing to special interests, of course), but placating their disappointed base with a token social victory (that was often won by outside groups, e.g. gay marriage). It's exactly why Obama was a weak failure of a president who went back on every progressive promise he ever made.
>Corporations seem to have been willing to follow along on the social issue campaign
Of course. Their goal (and the goal of our political establishment) is merely to maximize the wealth and power of the elite while keeping the people just placated enough not to revolt. Of course they'll play along on social issues that don't affect their profits if it will make the people think they've won on something.
Honestly, I think many Bernouts will flock to Hillary once Bernie drops out and endorses her. He'll say some bullshit about banding together to defend America from Trump's racism blahblahblah and Bernouts will totally eat that shit up.
I'm with you, OP. I can see the "HASN'TEVENSTARTED.PNG" argument that /pol/ has but once Bernie endorses Hillary it's ogre.
With help of out meme magic people will start to hate Hillary and like Trump.
>>72923486
Did you listen to his speech tonight? Ol' grandpa Jew is gettin fired up, he thinks he can do it now.
>>72918737
>Trump attacks $hillary
>"But then why did you support her??"
>"I'm a businessman, I support all powerful politicians as a cost of business"
>$hillary attacks Trump
>Trump pulls out photo of her at his wedding
>"She says all these mean things about me, but if you pay her enough she comes to heel!"
Yea no Clinton literally cannot defeat Trump in a general. Trump has many many more avenues of attack against Clinton, while Clinton can essentially only talk pure policy. If Clinton had a foot to stand on in a policy debate there might be a contest, but as it stands
ALSO
>head of the FBI is a republican
>Clinton will undergo questionings and hearings, possible ARREST during general elections
>Literal 25% of the Bernie Bros. are going to vote for Trump/3rd party out of spite.
>>72923600
You, and everyone else on the planet, knows that the DNC can literally rape his asshole with a concrete dildo and he'll still say that Hillary would make a "fine president."
At this point anything can happen.
Don't listen to polls or pundits. Trump is the wildcard and the entire game has changed because of his presence.
>>72923235
There's stats out there that don't include caucus states with her with a big majority of the popular vote. National polls show that democrats prefer Bernie over Hillary by a small margin. I think he was up by 2% in national polls the last time I saw one. That popular vote is going to close a lot in west coast states and Cali especially. She still has NJ though too maintain the popular vote.
why doesn't that ill piece of shit give up?
it's clear to me that Trump is the best canditate out of all these losers and clowns.
Hillary isn't even health-wise qualified and plunged the US into chaos numerous times.
remember that time when she was health minister and not qualified for that position in any way?
>>72923235
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_vote_count.html
>>72922989
the laughing hyena
>>72923965
>Trump
>qualified
I'd take fucking BLM Bernie over 45%-import-tariff Trump. His trade policy is so fucking destructive that it actively invalidates what few positive aspects his platform has.
>>72923965
So I'm not the only one who notices she's in bad health?
>>72924221
Fuck off CIA
>>72923080
I fall under this percentage. Will vote Bernie in primaries, but if he drops-out, I will vote Trump because only Cruz is worse than Hillary.
>>72924221
You would have no reason to be mad about the tariff unless youa re a) I chinaman or b) a globalist cuck who cares more about his bottom line than his people.
either way die.
>>72924294
Get ready, Sven. I'll be organizing a coup in your soon-to-be-failed state once the world economy collapses during a disastrous trade war between two economic superpowers.
>>72924115
lol RCP and Nate Silver did their best when they were in denial that Bernie was going to win Indiana. Face up guy. You get a few wrong once in a while. No shame in that,
>>72924115
That's not 'many more votes' lad, that's +25% who no-one had heard of at the start of the election when she had~55% of popular support.
If you start out with a >50% lead on your competitor and go down to only 25%, you've essentially lost the popular vote from a credibility standpoint.
>First female president!
If that were true Hillary would have the youth vote and Bernie would be nowhere near as persistent as he is
Hillary just isn't likable, people are more likely to vote against her so another woman can come along and take the first woman title
>>72924536
Fuck finals making me a mess, look at the image in muh post you originally replied to.
>>72924536
3 million votes is most certainly "many more votes," you goalpost moving retard. Kill yourself immediately.
>>72924450
You realize the tariff would drastically increase the CoI in America for God knows how long, and that bilateral trade relationships are a fucking meaningless metric nowadays, right? Fighting China wouldn't stunt globalism or protect jobs anymore than toppling Assad would save Syrians.
>>72924570
who would you rather prefer stand against against her?
>>72924661
This. >>72924536 faggot destroyed.
>>72924570
This
as cucked as a shitload of millennials are Feminism shot its wad over 10 years ago.
If hill wanted her day in the sun it was 2008
>>72918737
>Does he actually stand a chance against Hillary?
Conventional wisdom? No.
But then that has been wrong this cycle.
Look how (((Nate))) the rat tries to spin a yarn about why he was wrong, note how he paints the situation as a failure of people to stop Trump, that it was a mistake he got elected.
(((Nate))) hates Trump and will continue spewing about how he can't possibly win. Not because of statistics, but because he /mustn't/ win, according to him.
There are people on this board today calling his coverage "fair".
>julia gillard
>mekel
>woman
>>72924705
>COL goes up
conicieds with millions of people entering the workforce to meet the demand of manufacturing that is no longer cost effective to do in china....
the transition may be rough but in the end its good.
What has Hillary to offer? "I'll continue Obongos way!"
What has Trump to offer? "I'll make America great again!"
No way he'll lose.
>>72924785
>millions of people
Not unless the US outlaws workforce automation. The Third Industrial Revolution will leave a lot of cheap labor in the dust regardless of where it's coming from. The US lost more jobs to robots than they did to chinks last year.
>>72924190
>>72924218
That's pretty gud.
>>72924957
>>72924785
>The US lost more jobs to robots than they did to chinks last year.
My mistake. The US lost more jobs to robots during the entirety of '00's to robots than they did to chinks.
>>72924731
Why the fuck does he work under ESPN? I'm guessing ESPN works under one of her corporate SuperPACS?
>>72918737
Anon you seem to be forgetting that trump is the real deal second coming of the messiah jesus christ.
This will soon be common knowledge.
Nobody remembers this but me, it was in early january, at one of his rallies he said "i already know Im gonna get 100% of the votes"
I'm his #1 recruiter. He knows I'm gonna do a good job.
Screencap this.
>>72918737
everyone who isnt an indoctrinated liberal hates hillary, even the bernie fags hate her. shes going to face a battle for the pres.
i dont care that the "muh emails" and "muh bengazi" has been thrown at her many times, that doesnt matter. she has never been on a national stage where her opponent will attack her over those. with trump he commands presence, when he attacks her for her shit it will be seen worldwide. this isnt going to censored, obscured, or anything like that. the debates will be no holds barred beat downs of hillary. anyone with a brain will lean trump
>>72925289
Sports fans are actually legit autists. They love stats and probabilities in relation to athletes and that's where Nate comes in.
>>72918737
Hillary is easy to beat.
The real enemy is people like being PC because it's the right/cool thing to do.
>>72921753
>the neoliberal handmaiden to the economic ruling class
Doesn't this apply to both parties?
>>72924661
He's right though
Hillary had 65% a year ago and Bernie had 10% with Biden having most of the remainder in polling
Suddenly Bernie has 47% and Hillary has 50% a year later despite her absolutely fucking ruining his day two months ago on the first of March AKA Super Tuesday One
The only explanation for this is that shillary is utter garbage as a candidate, and in any case Hernie is the favorite in most of the upcoming states and will probably get a slight win in California bringing him to within 1.5 million votes of her.
>>72918737
Hillary:
>media on her side
>social media is a pro-Hillary populist echochamber
>Bill's contacts behind the scenes + her own contacts
>banks on her side
>she's a woman
>LGBT on her side
>celebrities on her side
Trump:
>conservatists on his side
No, Trump has no chance. If politicians are puppets, general public consists of zombies zoned in to their smartphones media feed and empty social image.
>>72926031
The handmaiden part certainly does. The Republican establishment has been pursuing a different political philosophy, but the actual stances of their base seem to be extremely unclear at this point - mostly reactionary I suppose. But yes, the dominance of economic power and inverted totalitarianism aren't our future - they're our current reality.
>>72918737
Well it looks like Sanders has beat the old boot so who gives a fuck.
>Trump V Sanders
No contest: Trump
>>72926048
>>72926048
Aren't the primary turnouts at about half of what they were for Dems in 2008? Which suggests the number of registered dems that give two shits about either candidate has bottomed out?
>>72918737
Can we spin this at all against Hillary?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-stands-by-her-defense-of-1975-rape-suspect/
especially the
>The Washington Free Beacon recently obtained audio from a 1980s interview with Clinton in which she concedes some admittedly disquieting information about how she was able to seize on loopholes to minimize the sentence of the suspect
Otherwise we gotta go full out and recruit bernie supporters. I've already converted one, and another will be talking to me when Bernie drops out he said.
>>72919246
Sup r*ddit
>>72922484
Fuck off britcuck and worry about the soverginity of your own.
>>72918808
Hi op, how can you support such an evil person? She also barks at Putin, so US-Russia relations are going back to the USSR era.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/234515/former-12-year-old-rape-victim-hillary-clinton-daniel-greenfield
When the Free Beacon published tapes in which Hillary Clinton laughed cheerfully about a case in which she got a child rapist off, ordinary people had a glimpse into the twisted mind of a woman who keeps claiming to be a role model for young girls.
Its not againat Hillary
it's againt Bill
not a fucking prayer
Gen X thinks the 90s will magically come back
>>72921240
I don't vote but I registered for Trump, I can't imagine I'm the only one
>>72921813
This
On a basic level it would seem he has no chance. Most Bernie supporters are diehard lefties, they're not just looking to take down the establishment.
You would expect most Democrats to still vote Democrat, and lots of Republicans to abstain. Meaning Trump wouldn't be trying to win Democrats: he'd be trying to win people that should be his given voter base.
But we don't live in a rational world. Trump supporters are rabid and will go out to vote no matter what. Many people that don't like Trump will just abstain or assume he doesn't have a chance.
So basically if he makes himself more palatable to Republicans but convinces Democrats he can't win he might clinch it with a mix of apathy and blind devotion.
>>72918961
We must prepare for Biden, Or Warren.
Also we must begin to shit on the Green Party. Make it clear to bernouts why they are shit.
>>72926848
>Gen X thinks the 90s will magically come back
That's Trump's campaign slogan
>>72918737
Yes, more than one actually.
He's been proven to be immune to slander and media shilling wich is the main democrat weapon.
Lacking that they'll be at a loss on what to do, meanwhile Trump is literally a meme machine, his popularity is spreading by itself like a virus and he could literally be shitting on the stage and that would gain him votes.
>>72918808
(you)
>>72918737
You're asking the wrong question - $Hillary's delegates will be going to Biden.
>>72922748
>Actually, TYT is reporting rumors that Biden may be unilaterally nominated by the Democratic party establishment at the convention if Clinton gets indicted.
She ain't going to get indicted until after she wins the convention.
She will be either dead from health problems or facing prison before november.
>>72918737
>>72918808
>>72918879
He is polling higher and higher and hasn't even begun to attack her. He has Monica and other women suppressed by her and his meme magic which shut Ted, Marco and Jeb down.
He will get burnouts who believe the hillary conspiracy on votes. He will get independents so want the system to burn.
I thought it was a joke and that was the biggest mistake everyone had made. Trump comes out as the alpha, superiorly ranked person in all arguments. He sounds like the boss.
>>72919276
>the dirtiest fight ever
>mfw when epic emem time intensifies
>>72927853
>She ain't going to get indicted until after she wins the convention.
I have no idea what would happen in that event; it's an interesting question actually. I assume that the Democratic party would want to run Biden, but I don't know how that process would happen. Technically she could keep running for president, but I'm sure the party would try to withdraw the nomination. Nothing's stopping them from simply choosing someone else, I suppose.
According to Bill's former lover, Bill has a little dick but a good tongue. I hope they ask Hillary about this at the debate.
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/sally-miller-when-i-met-bill-clinton-and-the-first-time-we-were-together/
>>72918737
>Does he actually stand a chance against Hillary?
Probably not.
Benghazi and the emails aren't really a viable attack avenue. Non-conservatives simply don't give a fuck (and immediately dismiss you as brainwashed Fox News drone for bringing them up), and it's really only useful for rallying the troops at home to increase turnout.
Which brings us to the big problem of Trump's bid for the presidency - he's probably not going to be able to keep the Republican coalition together, and he's not going to be able to put together a new coalition by poaching any of the Democratic base. Moderate conservatives genuinely don't like him. Moderate liberals are Hillary's bread-and-butter. Minority voters are not going to pick Trump over Hillary. Sanders liberals will stay home and get stoned on election day, unless Hillary makes Warren (or someone like Warren) her VP, in which case she'll get decent turnout even from that flaky demographic.
Trump is in a very bad position.
>>72923584
>saving the world from itself
>feels good man
In 1980 the Democrats thought Carter would win.
>>72927914
you doesn't sound very comfortable, well the only thing we got is hope.
It's going to be a lot of fun tearing Hillary to pieces!
>>72928563
>t. Increasingly worried cuck
He has better chance againts hillary now than he had back in July to get the nomination. Do not loose hope.
It's time to start working on her brain damage more to try and get her to do and say stupid things.
:)
Hillary has the liberal uneducated minority vote, some Bernie voters are going to fall in line. Hard battle here, folks.
I hope he can use that woman card against her. Be truthful to the people that there are stronger and more inspiring women in the world than herself. As stated before, he has to attack her personally and show how evil she really is.
As always it's about the swing states.
Hillary wins Pennsylvania and Florida against Trump.
Trump may be able to carry Ohio but it's not enough.
She wins the Presidency.
>>72922380
My sides are in orbit
