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>"They're so intolerant!!"
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>>72628455
As a liberal in the 90's would put it.

No tolerance for intolerance
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>>72628455
Not scared, they are the enemy, and you never give comfort to the enemy.
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No, it's just a different culture that we don't want to have a foothold in europe because 1. it's not european
2. it's gonna lead to a balkan-ish situation eventually all across europe
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Is there anyone who actually uses this argument? It's 100% strawman.
Left loves them because they are diverse. Right hates them because they are diverse. Tolerance doesn't even come in to it.
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>>72628455
How in the name of Allah, may he be praised, does this defeat the anti-Islamic argument. Try harder Soros Kikes shill
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>>72628605
i hate them because of their shitty religion, "diversity" doesn't come into it
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>>72628605
The right hats them because they are intolerant xenophobic bigoted savages.
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>>72628795
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I don't see hordes of whites flooding to muslim countries and 'some incidents' occuring where people are bombed and people claim the 'christian extremists' were just not right in the head.

I am sick of liberals unable to face reality and continue to deny that religion is a problem in this world, or to support immigration without limits because 'all immigrants are poor and helpless souls'.

They don't even care about them. They just want to gather 'good people points' to appear more virtuous than they really are.

They'd rather sacrifice their own country to be raped, bombed and going back to medieval virtues to please the new muslim overlords than to slightly criticise anything out of fear of being labeled racist. Even though racism has nothing to do with religion.

So the cartoonist can suck a dozen dicks like the cuck he is.
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>>72628455
By the same logic, the reason people steal and rape is because they're mad we put them in prison for it ?
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>>72628455
>"Those protesting Americans are so intolerant!!!"
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Exactly how many Churches are allowed to be built in Muslim dominated countries again
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>>72628455
The real problem with Islam is sex trafficking, slavery both currently and historically, anti-scientific biggotry, nepotism, inbreeding, terror, backwardness, a totalitarian and suppressive society, war, imperialism - do NOT mistake lack of power for lack of determination - genital mutilation, forced marriages including children and relatives, a culture of violence including honor killings and condoning rape in marriage.

I hate shills like you so much. Kill yourself!
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>>72628851
>Intolerant

>Xenophobic

>Bigoted

We get it, you love black people. Go virtue signal on fb.
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>>72628851
No we hate them because we are intolerant xenophobic bigoted civilized folk. Only savages is a negative word out of that statement and even that depends on context.
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>>72628802
Why leave out the Northern Crusades though?
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>>72628572
>balkan
The fact that Europe has an example of unchecked muslim expansion on its doorstep and no one ever mentions it is depressing. Its a near perfect example to point to and say "if you don't knock this shit off this is you in thirty years."
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>>72628455
pffffffffffffffffffffffffffft non muslim countries debating whether islam is intolerant or not , shit bait 1/10.
Islam is intolerant get over it.
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>>72628455
>The problem with Islam is intolerance
No, the problem with Islam is it's a sandnigger death cult.
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>The problem with the Nazis is intolerance
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>>72629025
It doesn't include things like the reconquista either.
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>>72628455
http://www.strawpoll.me/10100883 Relevant poll
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>>72628545
FPBP

Being tolerant of intolerance is just stupid
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>>72628545
You can be intolerant of the parts of Islam that are intolerant, and still allow people the freedom to practice the rest. Christianity wasn't civilized by banning it.
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>>72628455
Ahhh bendib. I remember years ago being introduced to his comics and being turned off to him because of how much muslim ass he kisses. I wish he would move out of the USA to one of the muslim countries he loves so much. You would do better to post his anti-Semitic comics on /pol/.
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>>72628455
>no mosque near ground zero
>this is considered intolerant
What world do these people live in?
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>>72629331
They want a mosque on top of ground zero. That would totally not be like putting a fucking mcdonalds right on top of hiroshima or anything
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>>72628455

There are many cultures and religions over europe and the states, but everybody hates the shitskins. Could it be, because this waste of human resources is angry, lazy, unwilled to integrate and spread crime and fear whereever theyre overnumbered?
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>>72629331
It's also the person that wanted to build a Mosque who people objected to. He made some comments about 9/11 that, well, reveal that it is a victory flag.
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>>72629227
Christianity was forced into civilization with the Enlightenment and secular authorities ripping the teeth out of it. Trust me, they didn't choose to relinquish power over worldly affairs.
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>>72629486
>mosque on top of ground zero
>on top

This is not "on top" of ground zero
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>>72628545
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>>72629627
The same must occur to Islam, but I don't think we agree on the methods. We live in a very different time from the Enlightenment (in terms of communications technology and society and shit).
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>>72629227
Christianity had to reform when the world around them had to reform. That's why we stopped burning witches and people the criticize the church. Unlike islam that has made every attempt to reforms illegal and punished by death. Even now days people are killed in some countries for speaking up against islam. You can be tolerant but a hell of a lot suffer because you tolerate this. If muslims want people to start respecting them maybe, just maybe for once they can unite a speak up about all the wrong doings in the name of islam but we all now that would never happen because most muslims support it in secret. Muslims speakers have said many times their is no moderate muslim.
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You should tolerate the intolerent when they are muslims. When they are westerners esspecially white people you shouldn't.
Got it typical leftist double think
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>>72628545
Hate speech isn't free speech then, right?
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The problem with Islam is our "dearest ally."
Literal fucking garbage. I hope to God to see him and the rest of the Saudi monarchy swing from their necks in my lifetime.
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>>72628455

>why are you so intolerant against cancer?
>chemotherapy is wrong!
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>>72629636
Putting a mosque anywhere near ground zero is telling the muslims they won
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>>72629779
The advantage Christianity had is that its nature as being a divinely inspired text means that's it's open to interpretation, and thus reform.

The Quran, on the other hand, is the literal, perfect, and unchanging word of God. It becomes very difficult to reform a faith that, by its own account, cannot be reformed.

Christianity also saved itself by having the line "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's," rendering it compatible with a purely secular government. Islam is all-encompassing and there is absolutely no delineation between church and state.
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>>72630600
just wondering.
If the Quran is the literal, perfect, unchanging word of God, then why is there a Sunni/Shiite divide?
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>>72628455
Damn I hate the fuckers that made this pic, they probably aren't even Muslim but leftist faggots
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>>72630600
>Islam is all-encompassing and there is absolutely no delineation between church and state.
this senpai, the cancuck is right
Christianity in itself also has the advantage of having a non-violent all-loving hippy as its leader, whilst the Islamic prophet uses violence in multiple wars, which gives off the values that war and violence are sometimes justified, whilst in christianity, war and violence are always condemned.

>>72630913
Sunni/Shiite divide is about who was to be the successor of the prophet
Shiites say that it should've been it's family
Sunni's say that it should've been the most capable
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>>72628455
>"hey we don't really want an Islamic temple next to the site of one of the worst Islamic terror attacks of the century that killed 3000 of our citizens"
>"hey we think that the way you force women to cover their faces and dress up in massive clothes to cover every inch of thier skin is oppressive to them so we are going to ban it to protect them"
>"hey you decided to kill people due to people insulting Islam, so as a way to politically protest that we are going to symbollically burn the Koran and draw pictures of Mohammed to teach you that you can't just kill people that insult your religion"
OMG YOU INTOLERANT BASTARDS HOW COULD YOU DO THIS YOU DAMN WHITE BASTARDS, IF YOU DON'T DO WHAT THE PEACEFUL MUSLIMS WANT THEN THEY'LL START BEHEADING PEOPLE
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>>72630913
One grou chose to follow one lineage of leaders, one another.

It's more about the "who" instead of the "what" of the religion that is the split.
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>>72630600
Islam has this verse
You should listen and obey them even if the ruler strikes your back and takes your wealth, even still listen and obey.

and

No, as long as they establish prayer among you. If you find something hateful from them, you should hate their actions but not withdraw your hand from obedience.

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My words from here on.

Interpretation is always ambiguous. There must be ambiguity, because no human language is without ambiguity. There are contradictions, and so human authors must pick the right one. There are many Hadiths that get picked and chosen to justify varing levels of proof or punishment. The result can be vastly different "Islams" around the world. There have been honest efforts at de-fanging a lot of the more incompatible ones, but it's simply a matter of progressive reform forces needing to overcome the incumbant conservative forces. In USA, most muslims are as moderate as conservative christians in the US, some hold even more liberal views. In third world countries, there are different forces at play.

Most terrorist groups use verses from unreliable and mostly rejected Hadiths. This alone proves there's no agreement to use terrorism among muslims. Like the hadith used to justify burning people alive used by ISIS was abrogated very early on in the religion and is contradicted by the Quran.
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>>72628964
>World Wide Incidents Tracking System
Credible tittle
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>>72631504
>Implying that Sunni and Shiite don't disagree on any of the substance of the religion as well

Do some research
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>>72630079
No

Free Speech covers the right to be stupid.
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>>72631544
>In USA, most muslims are as moderate
Disagree
Pic related
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>>72629227
>Christianity wasn't civilized by banning it.
Yeah it was "civilized" by being allowed to shit on everyone else for over a thousand years until people finally had enough.
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>>72632094

Biased poll, tainted source, propaganda. Nice try, Bjarke.
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>>72632065
But 'no tolerance for intolerance' can be taken to mean than nobody should tolerate hate speech, which some people deem as intolerant, but must be protected under free speech at the moment.
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>>72628455
Because ban on minarets is exactly the same thing as beheadings, honour killings orchild brides.
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>>72632211
Oh so people "having enough" is the solution to a complicated problem. It's just that not enough people have "had enough".
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>at the moment
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there's also this
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>>72632402
pfff try harder shill, provide evidence which discredits mine.

the only critics are known leftists which cry murder over anything
>abc news
>washington post
>cnn
>salon
fuck off
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>>72631733
Indeed, the US government National Counterrorism Center is completely untrustworthy
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>>72632094
1 in 4 americans think that the sun orbits the earth.
nearly half are creationists.
80 percent believe in angels.

American muslims who talk about sharia have a different conception of it than regressive countries.
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>>72631544

thays because mihamit worked in diffrent phases peace when you are weak , behead when you are strong
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>>72632991
Nice try, dumbass. Only one of those 4 applies to real world situations. I'd rather someone angrily think I'm wrong about astronomy than have them think I should be dead for not agreeing with them and has an entire religion to reinforce that impulse.
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>>72628455
>explaining the joke
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>>72633286
If your fear is that some people think you should die because you think differently from them, then there's more than Muslims to worry about.

I broadly oppose anyone thinking anyone should die because of their beliefs.
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>>72633382
I just barely noticed that bird. Political cartoons really don't try anymore, do they?
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>>72628455
Just try to set a foot in Mecca if you're not Muslim YOU STUPID FUCKING ASSHOLE.
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Islam never made it through the age of enlightenment, implanting it into Western society today is incompatible.
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>>72628964
Are there really that many anarchist attacks???
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>>72633765
I'm aware of this, trust me. The group of people that want me dead being wider than X does not magically grant X carte blanche.
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ndeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah , so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah ? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.

Pickthall: Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.

quran sees the torah and gospels as truth but yet moslims dont accept jesus
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>>72634042
Do you think it's impossible to separate out people from both groups who don't want to kill the other for their beliefs?

I don't want the people who don't agree with killing to be mixed up with those who will kill.
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>>72628455
The cuckold who drew this is acting like Islam is passive and hasn't done anything to garner such criticism. Muhammad was literally one of the worst people to walk the earth. Almost 2 billion people believe that he was an exemplary man blessed by God.
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>>72634337
Most founders of empires have large body counts
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>>72631170
>Sunni/Shiite divide is about who was to be the successor of the prophet
>Shiites say that it should've been it's family
>Sunni's say that it should've been the most capable

Sunnis believe in meritocracy! Quick, let the left know ASAP so they can stop supporting this madness.
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>>72634255
I think it's incredibly possible. My understanding of the various sects is admittedly very rudimentary, but I've no problem with people practicing any religion so long as it doesn't promote violence against non-believers or otherwise violates human rights.
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>>72628455
so we need to tolerate intolerance?
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>>72631544
>Like the hadith used to justify burning people alive used by ISIS was abrogated very early on in the religion and is contradicted by the Quran.

its really not retard do you know where the 85 virgins comes from

>Not equal are those believers remaining [at home] - other than the disabled - and the mujahideen, [who strive and fight] in the cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred the mujahideen through their wealth and their lives over those who remain [behind], by degrees. And to both Allah has promised the best [reward]. But Allah has preferred the mujahideen over those who remain [behind] with a great reward -

>with a great reward -
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>muslims think that islamophobia just came into existence for absolutely no reason.

Maybe there's a reason everyone fucking hates you, cunts
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>>72634652
*cultural differences
I wouldn't want you investigated by the Bias Incident Response Task Force.
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>>72628455

I thought it was the repeated mass killing of innocent civilians, poor treatment of apostates, and a 18th century attitude towards women.
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>>72634764
Historical precedent is rayciss!
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>>72628455
You can make the USA great again simply by leaving it.
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>>72634593
Glad we agree.

I guess I'm more optimistic about Islam shifting away from the intolerance and stuff.
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>>72632065
Sure it does, but still you are accountable for what you do while being stupid.
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>>72635653
Yes. But the delineation is at the point where you're telling people to do something about your personal views.

It's like the "Yelling FIRE in a theater isn't protected" argument. It's not the word that's outlawed, it's the whipping a crowd into a false panic and endangering lives. "Hate speech" is perfectly protected until you start actively convincing people to criminally act on it.
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>>72629078
Turkroach is right.
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