Saw a news article that stated Liberals are intolerable of the right and not open minded. Saw another article that said 99% of professors are liberals are consider anyone else on the right to be insufferable. In the facebook comment sections the articles proved the point as I saw comments saying anyone that wasn't pro-left was 'on the wrong side of history' and there was no point debating anyone not on the left. Then there were 100s of comments backing this up.
>>72588934
A disease does not tolerate antibodies.
>>72588934
The rank-and-file considers the right to be morally abhorrent, whereas the right considers most leftists to be simply misguided.
>>72588934
Did you mean to say "liberals are intolerant of"?
>>72588934
because they think you want to enslave black people, kill gays, oppress women, anti the semites, and so on.
therefore you cannot be tolerated
>>72588934
>they can't be wrong
>>72588934
Need to merge that nice vector with this
>>72588934
Liberal Leftism is literally a cult.
A dogmatic religion that is as fundamentalistic and extreme as modern Islam.
The whole MO is exactly how a cult works.
>>72588934
It has to do with their worldview. In their view, by not participating in socialism, feminism, social justice, ect, you are at best allowing people to be oppressed.
>>72588934
I thought this was pretty telling, the LA Times ran this a couple years ago to try to look at both sides.
Here's a conservative talking about his view of liberals:
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/19/opinion/la-oe-allen-it-is-not-possible-to-talk-to-liberals-20120219
>Debating a liberal is maddening: They think conservatives are evil, while we think they're silly.
And a liberal talking about her view of conservatives:
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/19/opinion/la-oe-wagman-it-is-not-possible-to-talk-to-conserv-20120219
>We are not the same. I equate Republicans' political views with thoughtlessness, intolerance and narcissism. They're neither kind nor empathetic.
>>72589169
fpbp
>>72588934
If your not in line with how they think the world and people should be they throw a fit.
Its an unquenchable thirst for control, and cant stand the idea of not being in control.
Typically when your young you are liberal because you have this perfect vision of how the world should be.
But when you get older you tend to become more conservative because you know how the world really is.
>>72591228
The conservative presents facts and reasoned arguments. The liberal interprets this as "talking down" and gets offended.
Liberalism appeals to weak people which includes stupid people. Republicans have plenty of idiots too, yeah, but most of them are sharp idiots who could do well on their own.
Liberalism is basically an appeal for collectivism. Ironically they're instigating a lack of true empathy amongst their ranks, most liberals are just greedy weak stupid fucks who need to other people to survive or do anything.
That doesn't mean to be a liberal you have to be weak and moronic, it's just that the liberal mindset is more attractive to the weak and moronic so more mentally frail people drift towards liberalism out of petty primitive greed.
>>72591561
I think it's funniest that the liberal very specifically confirms everything the conservative's article says about them.
>>72590276
>The rank-and-file considers the right to be morally abhorrent, whereas the right considers most leftists to be simply misguided.
Pretty much this. For the left it's all about demonizing your enemies just right.
>>72588934
Honestly, it's taken me far too long to realise this, but the right and left are equally as bad when it comes to rationally arguing with each other and compromising to achieve ideals.
However, while the left currently has much more social influence than the right, they can afford to be absolutist while the right must compromise to an extent
No this is not bait and if you're not a fucking retard you'd realise this now
>>72588934
The right is better at psy ops. You're raised to be submissive and then expected to be independent. We're fucked and everybody knows this
>>72588934
>intolerable
You mean intolerant.
OP is an illiterate.
It's because the right is indoctrinating violence and hate against race and religion, anything that goes against status quo. It's no wonder why we have such progressive nation and I'm thankful for that, and once right wing leaders get elected another war will be committed ie ww2
>>72591938
Anyone who adamantly sticks to one party is a degenerate anyway.
>>72588934
The left has gone full retard with their wishful thinking that they have completely separated themselves from reality on some pipe dream.
Plus they can't argue for shit.
>>72589169
I still can't believe this is real. Holy fuck.
Trigglypugg, in addition to guys like Carl the Cuck and AIDS Skrillex. Wow.
They're the perfect fucking embodiment of the various types of people on the left. You couldn't cast a movie with better suiting looks for their roles.
>inb4 conspiracy theory about them being hired/paid actors
>>72592326
*trigglypuff
>>72591561
Can someone explain to me then why liberals dominate most of academia? What is it that makes them so high and mighty when it comes to education? And can't a conservative do the same and teach say physics or the humanities? Also please don't get into the whole "god created the world in 6000 years" bullshit because we all know that is some libshit tactic to discredit you.
>>72590506
>anti the semites
kek
>>72592445
those who can, do; those who can't, teach
>>72592445
>god created the world in 6000 years
>libshit tactic to discredit
Yes this is very true, I don't know why liberals dominate academia but it's usually younger people, and of course the commies infiltrating it in the 50's and 60's
>>72589169
>>72588934
>le wrong side of history meme xDxD
These people need to be lined up against a wall and shot
>>72592374
No no, you were right the first time.
She is pretty pugly.
>>72592100
WTF no. As a right winger who supports Trump I believe all people who choose to live in America are Americans and racial issues don't need to be brought up anymore because the current generation doesn't care what race people are anymore. Liberals just want to turn everything over a race issue because they're loving in the past.
>>72588934
Just look at how they treat 'one of their own' when there is even just a partial disagreement.
>>72592673
So liberals can't do real life shit so they created academia to protect weak people from the real world?
>>72592755
Something tells me it goes much further back in time. I'm talking worldwide, not just the USA. Russia is a good example because I doubt the Russians taught their kids how to become Bolsheviks.
Read Moldbug.
>>72592100
You managed to get somebody with this bait, but it is still low quality and obvious to my battle hardened eyes.
>>72588934
The Left is very desirable for people who want to be victims, who believe that everything can be solved with kindness and hippie circles, who believe that Communism is a good idea, who believe that they can save the entire world despite the consequences of trying to do so.
The Left is pure cancer and is nothing like the classical liberal ideas. The degenerate hippies of the 60s and 70s are literally the teachers of today's college students.
Students are taught that capitalism (which lifted millions and millions and millions of people out pure poverty, horrid conditions, and starvation) is inherently bad and that Communism (which has killed millions and millions and millions of people consistently) is inherently good. They enjoy how the idea of Communism makes them "feel", everyone would be equal, nobody would go without, etc, but we see what they "equality" really is when we look at the Communist regimes of the past couple century or so.
These people are mentally ill. I know there's the cliche that "LOL LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER", but I truthfully believe that the people on the Left are dysfunctional human beings. They have no sense of self-awareness, they believe they're the authority over everything, they're lead by their emotions and feelings, they don't care about anyone but themselves, etc. They're just inherently terrible on all levels.
>>72592445
They're more aggressive, hostile and resentful and managed to purge their enemies clean from having any institutional power by labelling them racist etc. in the same that Marxists have done over the course of the last century. Gramsci's long march through the institutions etc.
There are no shortage of Rightist intellectuals, look at Ted Kacynzski for fucks sake, it's just that they're all institutionally disenfranchised and forced to the outside because an intellectual mafia runs the Academies.
>>72592445
The life route that leads to getting a PhD is basically not compatible with being a traditionalist. Average PhD completion time for physics is 7 years, so basically your career is not starting until you're at 30 (and there's a ton of other bullshit after that, like post doc and tenure). Conservatives generally want to use their skills in the workforce and have a family, so it is a shit decision to say you're going to spend your 20s living on minimum wage and then be an academic vagabond in your 30s and hope that some place will stick.
On the liberal arts side conservatives generally just aren't interested. Shit like sociology ends up being "me search" or memesearch- and there is just distasteful whiteman's burden connotations. For things like humanities, it would actually be weird to have a large proportion of conservatives because the whole point is to create arguments and see what will stick- the conservative view point in these fields is there to strike down the new horseshit.
>>72593416
The Left purged all of the Right intellectuals out of the colleges in the 70s here in the US. They won't accept Right wing speakers.
The anti-Right hatred and purging started when Herbert Marcuse's works became a standard decades ago. He's also Jewish, for the record.
>>72588934
Well the hardcore liberals, it's pretty obvious.
The more moderate liberals with the occasional dip over the line to the right, it's largely because the conservative movement in the country is associated with everything we've grown up hating; the Republicans hate gay marriage/adoption, the Republicans attack abortion/women's rights, the Republicans encourage the wealth disparity, the list really goes on.
And while it's perhaps unfair to link right-wing political conservatism with the Republican party to the point where we just can't separate the two, the fact is that it happened, and it's really hard to gravitate towards a party that stands for virtually everything we perceive to be on the wrong side of history and antithetical to progress in the country.
>>72593416
So how do we kick them out and fix this bullshit? Do we have to defund all the colleges or the entire education system and bankrupt them until they can prove that they are teaching legitimate subjects?
I ask because I am in college right now and I'm really sick of this shit I'm being taught. I want drop out now after realizing later on I will have to PAY, that's right, PAY, my fucking university money for some internship later on.
>>72591228
Liberal confirm everything the conservative says, they even try to make the conservative look bad as they're doing it.
>>72593857
When I was in college years ago, the best way to combat pervasive ideas and doctrines, is to organize.You need numbers, firstly. It's incredible what can be accomplished when people organize.
Form your own groups, after class clubs, etc, and create places where your ideas and views can be nurtured. Start getting involved with debates, as this is the direct way to confront views you disagree with. Have your group of people all involved in debates. Once the seed is planted, it'll continue to grow. Keep swelling your numbers and eventually, you'll gain momentum.
>>72592445
Leftists were tolerated in academia for reasons of fairness and freedom. They did not reciprocate, and in turn purged all non-leftists.
>>72593112
The institution of academia does predate 20th century liberalism.
>>72593857
I've already said: read Moldbug. He has a whole tonne of shit on this very topic. it's not a trivial problem at all, it's an engineering task that requires an absurd amount of precision and care. one idea is building a competitor truth organ with equal prestige called the Antiversity.
>>72592326
I've seriously considered that it is paid actors/plants, especially the latest one
>>72593857
>Moldbug
http://moldbuggery.blogspot.com/
>>72593857
I favor the idea of boycotting and defunding the universities.
Idc I just want to kill them OP.
>>72593579
>Sociology is the study of social behavior or society, including its origins, development, organization, networks, and institutions. It is a social science that uses various methods of empirical investigation and critical analysis to develop a body of knowledge about social order, disorder, and change.
If sociology wasn't about PC culture, but instead, about European nationalism, for example, then maybe it wouldn't be so distasteful. Now, I am not white but I have seen some European nationalism, thanks to some redpill videos, and it is a damn shame that some whites are letting this PC bullshit destroy them. Europe is a very good example to all races to improve themselves.
Also, getting a doctoral isn't my thing either. I want to work, make money, and live my life instead of staying in this uni hellhole. Fuck starting your career at 30. You might as well get an autistic kid at 45 or 50.
>>72594367
I'm pretty sure the end goal of neoreaction is to drive a tank through Harvard square and announce to the professors that they will no longer be requiring their services for the foreseeable future.
>>72589169
>>72592850
Source of pic?
>>72588934
>no point debating anyone who doesn't think the exact same way as me.
lol leftests
>>72588934
>>72589169
>You make Buu mad! Buu make you dead!
>>72592445
Academia has always depended on trust, as a single falsified experiment can taint entire branches of science for centuries (geocentriam for example). Liberals have no problem lying to anyone they consider their moral inferiors, and so academia really never stood a chance against them.
>>72594540
So they do intend to actually do something on the Day of the Rope.
>>72588934
because "le open minded liberals" is just a meme. It's a cult
>>72588934
The left has always been violent.
Their idealogy never survives rational criticism.
Thus they seek to create an environment in which criticism is disallowed.
The left has always been violent.
>>72594604
They're dimissive because they have lots of experience of having been demonstrably shown that what they believe to be the case about their ideological opposition is complete falsehood.
Take Islam for example.
They will not engage you within the context of Islam being incompatible with Western secular ideals and laws.
They insist that you remain in the "blind hatred of people who have a different skin color" category so they can approach you with canned meme arguments. When they go back among their peers they are validated in approaching the debate in this context, completely oblivious that they fought and won against a strawman oppositional boogeyman caricature of you that doesn't even reflect the nuances of your position.
>>72589169
Anyone have the blood sugar lowering gif of this?
Its simple. Conservatives think Liberals are dumb. We think they're fucking retards. Misguided idiots who refuse to face the reality of the world.
But liberals, liberals think Conservatives are EVIL. This simple dichotomy explains why they are so vehemently opposed to Right-wing thought.
>>72594195
>>72594293
I will look at this, thanks.
>>72594613
Exactly. Even back in my country my people trusted academia to get them out of 3rd world conditions. My parents got legitimate degrees in the STEM fields, worked their asses off, and brought our family to the 1st world. Now that I'm here trying to do the same shit my parents did and I see that a university's image is stained because of these fucking libshits, how do you think that looks? Do you know how hard it is to explain to them that universities are a joke now? They are now tainted in my eyes and will be tainted for more than just centuries if this bullshit keeps up. There is no chance in hell I will be sending my kids to these places unless it is strictly for STEM shit. If they can't do STEM, they are going 2-year, end of discussion. Then a libshit will say they will be poor for the rest of their life. What a joke.
>>72588934
Because leftist progressivism is self destructive cancer killing society. And it's been proven.
see
>>72594867
When you realise that Universities are the modern church, the backlash towards the corruption present in them becomes far more acute. This is basically like the second counter-reformation.
>>72588934
>>72590738
That Carl guy is a total fucking moron, but why the fuck would you spend time drawing someone? What the fuck? Do people here have nothing better to do?
>>72595243
>good vs evil
Who is the religious one now? That is one thing I have noticed about conservatives is that they don't rub shit in your face unlike liberals do with the LGBT, racism, shit.
>>72594921
The reality of it is that I didn't even know I was "right wing" until, when I went against the grain and pointed out that they do this quite often, I had my "right wing" label stamped on my head, and the line in the sand was drawn around me before I could cross it.
>>72593070
Specifically, it's because the left is controlled by academics and journalists who would be out of a job if they didn't create new race/gender/etc "issues" to "educate" the public about.
Has Carl the Cuck killed himself yet?
Is he at least aware of how much of a joke everyone thinks he is?
>>72595790
They should work on a farm from sunrise to sunset, 6 days a week because they seem like lazy fucks to me.
>liberals are so close minded, they think anyone who doesn't accept their opinion as objective truth is dumb and evil!
>how do you spot a liberal? they're the ones who don't accept MY opinion as objective truth
>>72593793
That fits El Rato down to the letter.
>>72595350
Be aware though, he tends to support Progressives and the Left despite his claims to "not be one".
>>72595821
Tomas Daniel Contreras was notified of his memetic status via facebook and his WUSTL email address. He almost certainly knows what he has become, and I'm pretty sure his mother's real estate business knows it too, though I've not seen any evidence of him actually acknowledging it.
>>72592445
>why do liberals dominate most of academia
It is rather amusing how Marxism has essentially become the religion of the idiotic masses.
>>72595699
I think they act this way because everyone in their echo chambers constantly signal and show how 'tolerant' and 'liberal' they are. When they go into the real world, they never even consider the people they are talking to may have deeply held convictions that conflict with their own.
>>72595761
I never really aligned myself politically until I had to really dig my heels in on gun rights. That really started my shift away from center.
>>72596167
It's not only Marxism, the entire intellectual tradition (if one can call it that) of The Frankfurt School has been injected into every college in the US (And I assume in Canada, too). Marxism is simply one side of the sword, unfortunately.
>>72588934
The left is INTOLERANT of the right because the right is intolerable.
>>72596174
>It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea.
-Robert Anton Wilson
>>72596284
They're both intolerable of each other. However, the Left as of late has consistently shown a vicious type of intolerance towards everything they disagree with. The Right is a bloody stump at the moment and has no capacity to assert any real power, the Left is the main problem, at least currently it is.
>>72592445
They dominate it because academia has become a liberal indoctrination machine. I made the mistake of saying this to friends who now think I'm a tinfoil Illuminati conspiracy theorist.
I've seen it happen first hand. There was this qt3.14 girl who was in this class with me. Let's just call it white guilt 101. This girl was a shy, conservative Catholic nerd. Within about, oh, a semester and a half she had cut her hair short, dyed it, got her nose pierced, became atheist, hated her dad, and became bisexual. It was horrifying.
>>72596053
I am always careful when things are written by some kike I don't know about.
>>72596174
Gun rights is another thing. A gun is no different from a knife, hammer, or the damn engine in your car (if you were the Hulk and threw it at someone). They are all objects and won't do shit without someone manipulating them.
>>72596284
I'm not the one making an entire ideology on a foundation of the profound moral value of tolerance.
>>72593793
HE IS NOT A TRUE CONSERVATIVE
>>72596284
If you mean the Right is "intolerant", towards things like gay marriage, for example, why is it assumed that they MUST be tolerant towards gay marriage? If the Left reserves the right to be tolerant towards gay marriage, then it must be conceded that the Right has every right to oppose it. Gay marriage in and of itself is neutral, it is neither good or bad, and for that reason supporting it or opposing it is neither good or bad. One does not have to agree with gay marriage, anymore than one has to agree with it.
Gay marriage is just an example.
>>72594544
YouTube triggering at UMass- she's a fat fuck in the crowd harassing milo+friends
>>72596627
He has some good works but all in all, he's undercover Liberal and a he's ((not white)). I wouldn't give him and his opinions too much weight but he does have some very good writings.
>>72596471
What if I told you I became conservative in less than 5 years and did change an idea?
>>72596580
That is a shame. If she doesn't change soon, she will end up like those feminists in their 50s/60s alone. Oh well, natural selection right?
>>72595974
I don't expect them accept my opinion, but if we're going to have a debate about it, the least they can do is stop beating up on a stuffed Hitler doll and dancing around the stuffing during the debate.
>>72596528
>>72596749
Intolerant and intolerable are different words, retard.
>>72596897
I'd tell you that's how you achieved it in 5 years.
The quote is a joke about how social momentum is always shifting more left.
>>72596897
Yeah, her tumblr whale friends accused me of sexual misconduct. They said I was stalking their ugly asses. We were all in a club, and they brought very personal shit to student life that I trusted them with
I've learned my lesson about women and leftists
>>72596816
I have stated I'm not white but I agree with you on your post. >>72594490
>>72597045
Here is the problem with that quote. I was not raised like normal Americans because I traveled a lot as a kid in different countries. I even stayed in a muslim country at one time and they are pretty right wing. Never did I care about anything political until college because as a kid, I was just having fun doing what healthy kids do (not this PC faggotry kids are subjected to in the USA) with no political awareness. Also, it took a while but at least my father now knows what the fuck I'm talking about when universities are a joke thanks to the MSM.
>>72597413
Your anecdotal experiences are not a problem with that quote though.
>>72597413
Then you must be referring it to the "when you're a kid, you're a liberal by default" argument right?
>>72596749
the left is intolerant of my Monarchism and desire for racial homogeneity but they also define anybody who has these opinions as non-humans worthy of extreme suspicious and subversion, yet they are not intolerant because they believe that all their expressions of preference are an act of *opposing intolerance* which is the cheapest trick in the book and yet that paper thin reasoning is all it takes for them to avoid staring directly into flare of their own guilt and hypocrisy.
if I say niggers are not human and we shouldn't care about their feelings, i'm opposed as discriminatory and intolerant. if they say nazis are not human and we should've care about their feelings, they are praised because they can tell themselves their intolerance is *really* an act of opposing intolerance.
>>72597694
Retard.
>>72588934
Non college educated people can accept that there are smarter people out there than themselves. College idiots cannot.
>>72598264
Coincidentally, that's what you're supposed to be learning in college, instead of gender studies.
They want control over the population.
And the population wants an easy target to hate.
I think this is how a leftist hipster thinks: I would be intolerant if I hate the foreign invaders, so I will hate my countrymen on the right instead.
It's easy, it's convenient, and they don't have to think so much.
There was a TV program sometime ago attempting to argue that Thorium Nuclear energy has had a lot of scientific progress and many of the old worries might not be justified anymore
https://www.dr.dk/tv/se/temaloerdag/temaloerdag-atomkraft-ja-tak-2
Guess what the leftist do?
Denial, denial, and more denial. Like religious denial. They won't listen to arguments from scientist. They don't even want our country to research the science behind it, they don't want us to become smarter and more knowledgeable about the subject.
A parallel I can come up with is as if someone would still believe the world was flat today.
That's how a leftist is when it comes to nuclear energy.
They have been brainwashed to dislike it since early on and refuse to listen to reason.
And unfortunately my own little brother is a leftist, I don't know how far into their autosubscribtion he has become, maybe one day he will auto dislike anything the left dislikes too, it's just sad to think about.
>>72590276
there was some study and it found that right leaning people were able to understand why a leftist would think that way. when leftists were asked the same question they were unable to understand why someone would be right
>>72598578
The Dunning-Kruger effect is a real phenomenon.
>>72593793
California passed Prop8 banning gay marriage because of the Mexicans the liberals brought in. They only vote liberal for immigration.
You also know nothing of history.
But since the republican party in this state is cowards and thieves, if you're here, by all means. Hate them. I know I do.
Here's a fun fact for you to chew on though.
Look up the "Purify the Vote" campaign.
Enjoy.
>>72588934
>Why is the left completely intolerable to the right?
Because the left (women) hates the right (men) but has only a female brain to interact.
>>72592326
>They're the perfect fucking embodiment of the various types of people on the left.
>>72595694
>Do people here have nothing better to do?
we are on 4chan. what do you think?
>>72598443
Modern leftism is a sort of Marxist puritanism that has proliferated. Although these people know there are bigger problems in the world than some off-color joke in a video game or whatever a comic book artist drew, these people are the primary targets for Puritans.
They don't join this little club in order to DO good, they want to BE good; good defined by the standard of arbitrary rules they've set out for themselves like, 'thou shalt not be triggering' because these people want to be BETTER THAN YOU.
Their movement isn't about actually ending racism or anything faggy like that, it's about defining what Racism is in their eyes so that they can go on witch-hunts to call people racist and establish their moral 'superiority.'
In reality, these people simply took being pompous self righteous cunts to a religious level.
>>72588934
The Right thinks the Left is stupid and naive
The Left thinks the Right is evil and malicious
Once you understand that, everything else falls into place.
>>72594604
Giving women equal rights, what could possibly go wrong.
>>72592989
if history is any indication, that will end up happening to them
>>72598951
>>72598888
>>72599097
The left is the way they are because, instead of accepting these thing for the way yhey accurately describe the situation, they perceive it as a product of baseless hatred of women, like we just went around looking for a reason to think they're stupid instead of looking for evidence that they're not and finding nothing.
>>72594544
Search for trigglypuff or click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY1H1rZL53I
>>72599368
And this applies to more than just the subject of women.
>>72599368
The left is they way it is because women have 40% less neocortical synapses.
>>72594176
>Leftists were tolerated in academia for reasons of fairness and freedom. They did not reciprocate, and in turn purged all non-leftists.
This. During cold war East-Germany funded many Marxist student organisations in West-Germany. Most of them still exist and keep on influencing todays academic live. It fucking sucks.
The East-Germans Universities on the other hand were systematically purged after reunification. I studied there, too. There are regulair clashes between leftist and rightist students. The right is fighting, because they know what happens if they cease to do so.
Source: I studied in Stuttgart and Dresden.
Are you seriously saying that our education system has been hijacked and that our kids are being formatted into a one way mind track based on what they think is reality because they never experienced anything other wise
tl;dr SuBvErSiOn
>Whooooooooaaaaaaaaa
>>72599791
So does that mean that there is a stronger right-wing University presence in Germany than in say France?
>>72599906
Not in the west. It's just as full of SJWs as in the US I guess. But the east keeps fighting, because many of the students parents could experience real socialism first hand. I gathered the funniest commie stories thoughout my college time from cab drivers, bar keepers, shop merchants and many other people.
Living in in real life socialism is fucking shit, from what they tell. You have to wait ours if you want to have a chance to get a certain everyday life item. Your materiel well being is not based on what you do or how good you are at your job. Instead you get stuff based upon how loyal the government rates you and how much officials asses you can kiss.
Srsly, we need to make a thread were all the ex-commie countries tell the best stories. It's so fucking laughable.
>>72599503
first link is from 1997, second link used epileptics as subjects, and third cites the second and extrapolates the data from the second uses math to estimate how many synapses someone will have at age 60.
>>72600627
sorry, meant to say the third cites both of the previous studies and doesn't use any new data.
>>72588934
I dont care anymore if anyone of those crazed leftists gets in my face i am going full metal jacket on them.
>>72588934
People by nature are not tolerant, rational or open minded at all. Leftists are mosty acting like normal people given that we're the world's most dangerous species of territorial predator and our group instincts evolved not to be fair and just to others but to wipe them out if threatened. What's annoying is that they think they are better then everyone and preach tolerance and open mindeness while not being any more tolerant and open minded than other groups of people who believe something. it's the "holier than thou" attitude that gives the cognitive dissonance with how they really behave. They like to think of themselves as the world's enlightened, tolerant and rational elites fighting "bigotry", while they are a bigoted as any ideologically driven group and not special in any way in this regard
>>72600627
>first link is from 1997
It could be from 1957. Women's brains didn't change since then.
Cunt detected.
>>72592326
They're not acting. You have to realize that these people are literal freaks. They've been deliberately made into misshapen, foul creatures.
http://www.stephenhicks.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/RandAyn-The-Comprachicos.pdf
>>72593124
He invented this totally revolutionary new computing method.
Just kidding, he's actually retarded.
>>72594604
I want to chase her in my backyard with a hose as she screams and jiggle and beg me to stop. Then as she stumble from exhaustion I would drop cake pieces over her body and watch her struggle grabbing dirty wet cake pieces. I would then say something incredibly offensive when her mouth is full of cake and she would gasp and choke while large chunks of unchewed cake are spewn out off her mouth. Then I ll turn my garden sprinklers on and watch her struggling some more, recording everything for me to watch on bad days.
The left thinks it's morally correct.
The right thinks it's pragmatically correct.
>>72588934
>'the wrong side of history'
That's why. That single phrase has done more to damage political discourse in this nation than any Republican candidate ever could.
>>72588934
The 'left" and the "right" have changed place.
The left wants to bring third world immigrants into White countries to "help the economy". They don't care that this crashes worker's wages. They no longer care about women's rights either or if they get raped.
The "right wing" sticks up for women and children, and realizes that immigration will cause falling incomes for workers.
>>72592989
They are what the politburo would call "useful idiots". And that's exactly what would happen.
>>72603013
>The "right wing" sticks up for women
Supporting one's enemy is the very definition of cuckoldry. Only manginas defend women.
Why did you even post that pic, implying a woman is a victim?
>>72591938
Yeah the only thing the left is really guilty of is being sore winners, still doesn't make it okay though.
>>72592989
They are what the politburo would've dubbed
пoлeзныe идиoты. Useful idiots. And in case you need some validation this morning, you'd be spot on in what would happen to them.
Why is the left so morbidly fat?
>>72598443
>we need climate action NOW!
>how's about we start building more nuclear reactors then?
>No we have to wait a couple decades instead for renewable energy to be able to replace coal!
How can they rectify this double think? How many of those reactors would have to pop for the damage to equal the alleged harms of catastrophic global warming? A nuclear incident would make people in the area around the reactor into refugees, catastrophic global warming would make everyone who lives on the coast into a refugee, isn't that far worse?
>>72603365
shadenfreude
>>72603651
The look on her face gets me every time. Lol.
>>72603651
is this the musée grévin ?
>>72604123
>alleged harms
You know the great barrier reef is already on its way to be destroyed, right?
>>72588934
Groups of Leftists behave exactly like groups of Muslims.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyhtK8-lm9M
>>72588934
Because they literally are babies. I know that it seems unbelievable,but it is true.Kaczynski actually give a pretty accurate "tour de mind" of an average socialist/liberal in his manifesto,read up on it.Also,cynic academia members actually prove to be more cancerous than all the loud/"normal" liberals since they are poisoning minds of generations to come with defeatism and garbage. Since I am in a good mood today I will share with you a site that contains almost all aphorisms from Nicolás Gómez Dávila. You will thank me later.
>>72607012
http://don-colacho.blogspot.hr/
Forgot site.
>>72588934
Liberals consider the right to be anti-gay, anti-women, and anti-science.
What does the right even define itself as any more beyond this?
Sure you can make a debate over immigration but thats hardly a defining factor in national politics.
In the United States, at least, the only thing conservative politicians do to differentiate themselves from liberals is pass bills that deny gay rights, deny womens rights, and deny climate science. How do you expect liberals to tolerate this?
>>72607245
>deny climate science
"""""science"""""
>>72606504
Even if it's linked, it's a different issue. Nobody is going to stop global warming to save the great barrier reef, if a solution is found it will be in spite of emissions.
>>72598578
a lot of conservatives were liberal in their youth
some people never grow up ideologically
>>72607012
>defeatism
Lmao anon im not sure if you've noticed but the liberals are winning the culture war and its not even close.
Gay marriage and abortion are legal, climate change is proven, Scalia is dead and with him the conservative end of the Supreme Court, subsidies for the poor are at a high, marijuana is decriminalizing, and the wealthiest parts of the country are decidedly liberal.
Meanwhile the conservatives elite are blowing themselves up struggling for the least-worst-case scenario to hold onto some representation in DC.
>>72607405
>breitbart exposing a global conspiracy of evil liberal scientists
Yeah thats really convincing anon.
Im sure NASA and their hidden agenda are really out to get you.
>>72598578
Reasonable opinions are easier to understand.
You have to be really bitter to understand some of the shit that comes out of the far right.
>>72607980
NASA has a hidden agenda indeed, because global warming = billions of funds.
Your whole post was liberal bullshit by the way. Probably you're just a cunt.
>>72607699
>expecting a burger to get the point
There is no culture war you mongrel since there will be no victors after the metaphorical battle. Whether you take Quigley(7 phases of civilizational lifetime) or Tylers(9 phases) it is obvious that decay/decadence is upon us and is being propagated by liberal/socialist idiots. Abortion is one example of the reason why the society in general is crumbling. Abortion should be made legal only when it is a jeopardy for the mothers life, in all other cases it only diminishes individual responsibility and literally justifies murder.
Climate change is perhaps the prime example of how the liberal hive-mind operates. They put themselves on the "intellectual and moral piedestal" from which they cast judgement at others. Climate change is standing on fragile complex mathematical models ( I am a physics postgrad and I have worked on them ) and there is plenty of evidence in the other camp that we are misinterpreting the data etc. Liberals never go into rational and sane debates about this topic,it is usually parading and appealing to authority.
The fact that the subsidies for the poor are at the all time high is really a testament that americans entered the last stage of serfdom. You have abolished capitalism ( Woodrow Wilson did ) and you have been using it as a patsy so you could justify a huge government apparatus/IRS/lobbying/bank bailouts etc. An average american is dumber than a bag of hammers and your country is the world leader in exporting and manufacturing degeneracy of all kinds.
You have been waging war for Zionists since 1917. and there is no sign of paradigm change in that ( maybe Trump before he gets assassinated if he wins the election ). And you really thing that the conservatives elite are fretting in fear that transgender lesbian dance theory majors are going to take over his wealth. Conservative elites will watch over Rome like Nero did (this is a meme but I am using it for the sake of the argument).
>>72608373
>billions of funds
>>72608373
>nasa
>billions
>>72608413
>expecting a filthy croatian to understand anything
>woodrow wilson abolished capitalism
Yeah sure anon
>trump could end american zionism
After he shilled for israel AS HARD AS HE COULD for AIPAC? Really?
>implying the conservative elite ARENT fretting this election cycle
How out of touch with reality are you? They aren't even fretting in private. They are publicly fretting.
A trump candidacy is what they're stuck with now and by every reasonable prediction its going to be a disaster for down-ticket republicans. This shouldn't even be controversial to say but you're a literal retard.
You think the modern west is Rome? Soon to fall from its decadence? How original and smart of you, im sure it will end up as true as your other assertions.
>Im a physics postgrad who worked on the models that we happen to be arguing about
lol anon sure you are
>>72592445
>Can someone explain to me then why liberals dominate most of academia?
Those who can't do, Teach
>>72592445
Because academics actually scrutinize things and base conservative stances cant holds up to scrutiny.
>abortion is bad for society
Easily proven wrong
>marijuana is bad and should illegal
Easily proven wrong
>being gay is a choice and also wrong
Easily proven wrong
>the environment is fine and doesn't need to be protected by the government
LMAO
>>72589169
How can she be so physically active, yet lose no pounds?
>>72591447
What is this fpbp?
>>72611732
Hello, our new FBI friend.
fpbp = first post, best post
>>72589169
>>72611889
>not telling newfag to lurk moar
so sick of all this cancer
>>72612099
I became nicer in my old age
>>72612132
I might start posting gore threads soon if they dont all fuck off back to re
>>72612099
>FPBP
>not newfag cancer shit
Sup JIDF, already redefining history?
>>72596284
>cue Bill Maher's audience going nuts.
>>72611889
>>72612099
I've been on 4chan nearly every day for more than a decade now and i have never seen 'fpbp' before.
>>72612206
Sup leaf smoking some more weed fa
>>72611641
>>being gay is a choice and also wrong
>implying gayness is fully a biological trait and has no social factors which could lead to it
Gayness is not useful for society as it doesn't allow for reproduction. The nation invests in you, so that you can pass on the heritage of it to the next generation, yet you will not produce a 'next generation', therefore, you're not useful to society in the futuristic sense of the word.
>>the environment is fine and doesn't need to be protected by the government
>citation needed
>>abortion is bad for society
prove it. Not just abortions of fetuses whose birth could've harmed the mother, or those fetuses which were conceived due to rape, but show that all abortions are inherently a good thing for society and don't show how little humanity currently thinks about life.
>I fucked over 200 men, I got pregnant
>No worries, I'll just go to this abortion clinic, get rid of 'it' and just get fucked again!!!
>>marijuana is bad and should illegal
>implying drugs are okay
>implying we should promote its use
Drugs are all bad. We should not be promoting their use, thus 'stoner culture' should be eradicated as a subculture. However drugs should be legal, since Prohibition has already showed quite clearly that banning drugs allows for black markets to make fucktons of money.
Legalize and tax the hell out of it.
>>72612478
>putting in this much effort and still being such a poor troll
Typical dutch scum
>>72612382
I've been here since '08. They seem to be pretty common on /pol/ nowadays. Where have you been hanging out?
>>72612592
>not even trying to refute my points
This discussion is very much over.
>>72612478
>Gays
So you'd be cool with gays if they adopt children since that means they're investing in the next generation, right?
>Abortion
If a mother wants an abortion there's probably good odds she's not going to be a great parent. It's still a terrible form of contraception, but do you want someone that fucked 200 men to contribute to the next generation?
>>72589169
>not posting the best version
I've noticed that the right wing always need to back up their claims with sources and statistics, and even then they get discredited. Like the wage gap, people think that it is real so they just dismiss any evidence against it, and if you should happen to come to the debate without sources and stats they will say they are right... without sources and stats.
>>72611667
Flailing arms doesn't take that much exertion.
>>72612668
>implying you made points worth refuting
Honestly i didn't even consider you seriously after
>implying gayness is fully a biological trait and has no social factors which could lead to it
This isn't even debatable in this decade any more. There are no environment factors attributable to homosexuality. At all. They tried find anything and they can't. What they have found is that homosexuality is epigenetic.
>The environment isn't getting fucked ima need a citation
Citation to prove what?
That our biodiversity is getting fucked?
That our oceans are getting fucked?
That our ground water is getting fucked?
Pick up a fucking science journal, anon.
>unwanted children aren't a drain on society
Sure ok
>not even disagreeing with me about drugs
>>72612942
Depends on if they adopt children from the nation, since those children have been raised with the culture of the land, adopting foreign children is an attack on the culture and should simply not be allowed. But I'm sure there are more than enough families consisting of a male and a female which are considering adopting, and they, due to their inherent heterogenity, should be given a higher priority. Only if there are no available heterogenous families, and if the child in question is from the nation (or possibly a nation very similar to the state (e.g. belgium and the netherlands)) then yes, I'd be cool with them adopting.
>Abortion
You do raise a fair point, but to simply take away their individual responsibility will keep them childlike forever, allowing for them to keep living a hedonistic lifestyle, pregnancy might bring them to their senses. In the case that it doesn't and she gives birth to a child she doesn't care about as she wants to be immature forever, she can give the child up for adoption and allow families to adopt that child so that they can give it the values it deserves.
>>72598578
"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function."
>>72613604
>im sure there are more than enough straight couples for all the children to be adopted
>>72613437
>This isn't even debatable in this decade any more. There are no environment factors attributable to homosexuality
>http://www.soc.duke.edu/~jmoody77/205a/ecp/bearman_bruckner_ajs.pdf
>" In contrast, our results support the hypothesis
that less gendered socialization in early childhood and preadoles-
cence shapes subsequent same-sex romantic preferences."
>http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J529v12n01_05
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194004
>gender nonconformity and sexual orientation are related
>https://books.google.nl/books?id=fofaAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA82&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
>"The reason some individuals develop a gay sexual identity has not been definitively established – nor do we yet understand the development of heterosexuality. The American Psychological Association (APA) takes the position that a variety of factors impact a person's sexuality. The most recent literature from the APA says that sexual orientation is not a choice that can be changed at will, and that sexual orientation is most likely the result of a complex interaction of environmental, cognitive and biological factors...is shaped at an early age...[and evidence suggests] biological, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality (American Psychology Association 2010)."
google refutes that there are no environmental factors or social factors, rather, it's still unknown
fuck off faggot
>Citation to prove what?
A citation that a person representing the general group of conservatives has said this exact sentence and has not been reprimanded for it.
>>72608413
holy shit Hrvoje knows what's up
>>72612204
Please do.
>>72606504
You know that reefs go through totally natural cycles, right?
>>72614262
firstly
>tries to prove its debatable in this decade
>4 links full of old theory that don't stand up to current research
anon please
http://www.nimbios.org/press/FS_homosexuality
Stop acting like we haven't already found the actual cause for homosexuality.
Its not 'we can't find anything so its probably a collection of factors too complex to correlate' any more.
You can never prove that an environmental factor can never do anything, there is only a complete lack of examples.
>i need to be fed examples that conservatives deny environmental science
Jesus christ anon google for yourself. There are probably literally thousands of examples.
>>72607012
Rand gave a much better description of leftists, and even pointed out the mechanics of how this happens in the first place.
http://www.stephenhicks.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/RandAyn-The-Comprachicos.pdf
>>72593367
You're just as delusional as leftists if you think 'The Left' is this big, monolithic institution that instills the ideals of communism in people.
>>72614955
Yes, im sure scientists have totally failed to consider this and are panicking about nothing.
>>72615027
>"Epigenetics...is the study, in the field of genetics, of cellular and physiological phenotypic trait variations that are caused by external or environmental factors that switch genes on and off and affect how cells read genes instead of being caused by changes in the DNA sequence."
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics
So you're saying that it's due to environmental factors, even though you state yourself that
>>72613437
>"There are no environment factors attributable to homosexuality."
You contradict yourself.
>>i need to be fed examples that conservatives deny environmental science
No, you retard, you make the claim, so prove that this statement:
>>the environment is fine and doesn't need to be protected by the government
has been said and backed by conservatist groups.
The left used to control the media. There was one narrative so journalism was truth in their eyes. They told the American public what was news what was important.
Remember Walter Conkrite? "Lost Vietnam" comment was so powerful because people believed him and all the then news networks collided their news efforts to promote a Washington driven narrative.
With the advent of people like Rush Limbaugh and Fox news puerile see the established forth estate for what it really was
>>72592445
Non Troll answer : read The Opium of the Intellectuals, by Raymond Aron.
Don't know if the book is well known in the US but it's an essential in France.
The very simplistic, tldr option is that academia is a bureaucratic mess of conformism. For a long time now, academia has been about repressing new ideas. Read what happened to Semmelweis, perhaps the greatest physician ever with Pasteur. This is academia.
"Intellectuals" easily fall prey or rabbidly support bureaucracy because it's the only thing they know. Besides, they have an often bizarre sense of superiority and they know very well that in a free environment their work would not command the prestige and salary they receive now.
"Intellectuals" have always been at the forefront of everything anti-freedom, be it launching your company without legal hindrance or associating only with people you like.
Right now and since at least the 1960s, the various so called liberal movements have canalized all of this envy, which is really the characteristic trait of academia. Before that "intellectuals" were openly commies.
>>72588934
You know what the funny thing is? Any one of these people when talked with alone 1v1 will have a decent enough composure to listen to you and odds are both parties will come to some sort of understanding ( agree to disagree at least ). Once you add large groups off people however, it becomes about how much to prove to your fellow group that you tow the line. This will never change. Any individual feels strong in a supportive group no matter the side. No one will yield, at least in a group situation anyway.
I work with a guy who is on the left, but not bat shit crazy. I am on the right myself, but we always come to some sort of compromise somewhere on any issue.
The key to influence or red pilling is to do it slowly while showing examples of all of this bullshit happening, but coming off in a neutral manner. That is until they themselves start to speak in favour of your side. Then you just have to nudge them along and they will investigate themselves.
All of this is used from both sides of the fence. At the very least, a once batshit liberal will be more neutral. That's better than nothing.
>>72615421
you got him anon
global warming is natural we are approaching the end of an ice age.
>>72613437
also we are not hurting the planet we are hurting other organisms. nature will sort itself out, it may make it so we cant exist, it might work in our favor. who knows we are organisms among others on a rock the rock does not give a shit.
Judging the right by what i see here in /pol/, the right is pretty much intolerant to the left
>>72612382
it's a relatively new reddit thing
only redditors use it
>>72611732
fucking plenty (of) boipussy
>>72616246
>global warming is natural
I have been taught by my school that global warming or climate change was our fault, but my school lied about so much, changed the meaning of words and concepts so they'd fit their perception of tolerance better, in general indoctrinated me with a leftist apologist view, that I've come to doubt most of the things they taught me, including climate change. I have no opinion on this matter, I'm not knowledgeable enough to draw conclusions.
>>72592989
>>72615421
Maybe if you'd read the actual article you would know that its referring to epigenetic factors in fetal development caused by the mothers hormones.
Do you consider your mothers biology to be an 'environmental factor'?
Your original point was that 'social factors' could lead to it and you were wrong.
>prove to me conservatives don't think the environment needs to be protected
Republicans in the united states have voted against nearly every environment protection bill in the last 20 years.
Their house majority leader promised to "Reign in the Environment Protection Agency".
They have tried repeatedly to remove the Clean Water Act and Clean Air Act.
They vote consistently to open up sensitive natural areas for drilling and fracking.
Most of them dont even recognize any sort of climate change is real at all.
They are on the opposition side of environment protections in the US nearly 100% of the time.
>>72616764
the fuck is up with those eyebrows?
>>72616576
the earth goes through cycles of ice ages then heating up. we are currently at the end of an ice age=earth heats up.
we may be contributing to the speed but it will happen anyway
>>72617206
looking forward to the sea level rising and all those costal cities becoming inundated t b h pham
>>72617424
eh Alice springs will rise and aus will become habitable
>>72616246
>we are approaching the end of an ice age
Wut
>you got him anon
No he really, really didn't.
>Also we're not hurting the planet we're just dooming our species
I didn't see we were hurting our planet, i said we were ruining our environment.
I was telling my roommate about Ben Garrison the other day, about the jokes about him being racist and his silly Trump cartoons. He told me with absolute seriousness that if someone says they like Trump, they're a racist by default. And that if I was going to vote for Trump (which I wasn't planning on) He would kick me out of the apartment. I was totally stunned. I had no idea how intolerant the person I was living with was.
>>72617512
Yes what I heard was that the outback will become a green and fertile land.
Next thing you know the abos will sober up and get jobs.
>>72595694
>shitposting on /pol/
>making fun of other people for wasting time
>be taking english II to fulfill stupid credits
>i'm junior in class of freshmen
>qt3.14 little asian/mexican something girl
>standing outside class waiting for room to open
>see her browsing tumblr, begin to sweat
>go into class she sits near me
>teacher brings up topic, says we can find an idea and latch on and write about
>she opens her mouth
>asks if she can write about "whitewashing in disney movies"
>my world becomes dark
>teacher asks, what?
>she repeats
>teacher interrupts her and maturely guides her to an actual fucking topic to write about
>i'm scarred internally
>>72617531
>Wut
we are approaching the end of an iceage dickhead did you even go to school the polar ice is there because we are in an iceage.
>I didn't see we were hurting our planet, i said we were ruining our environment.
so what if we do it will adjust or it will kill us which is still adjusting
>>72617607
nope they are fucked
>>72616326
How does that even work on reddit? Everything is aranged by how many thumbs up it gets, not chronological order.
>>72616781
You have not disproven any of my presented facts, merely provided one of your own which specifically states:
"Transmission of sexually antagonistic epi-marks between generations is the most plausible evolutionary mechanism of the phenomenon of human homosexuality,"
>evolutionary mechanism
It has in no way disproven social or environmental factors.
>Do you consider your mothers biology to be an 'environmental factor'?
Do you not?
>environment
Republicans more than just conservatives.
Also, Republicans voted in favour of the Clean Air Act
>http://www.eenews.net/stories/1059994544
Multiple democrats voted 'No', just as multiple republicans. The reason was economic in nature, not conservative or progressive. To blame conservatism for greed for money is stupid.
>>72617783
you will see the first post as there are no other posts
>>72617743
>who cares if humans go extinct
HUR DUR WOW ANON HOW EDGY GLAD THE EARTH WILL SURVIVE VOTE REPUBLICAN
>>72617424
>implying we won't just make higher dykes
>>72617957
how is that edgy its true. if we fuck up the world to the point were its uninhabitable for us something better suited will evolve as we die off.
>>72617704
>tfw this will become my everday life
i signed up for anthropology and ethnology studies
should've done better in school and go with the engineering like everyone was always telling me to do
>>72598578
I wouldn't be surprised. Many people start off liberal and grow conservative as they age. You don't see the reverse all that often.
Of course, modern liberals simply refuse to see both sides of the story because most of them don't know what they're fighting for to begin with.
>>72617975
You will, others will not.
The Bangladeshis are too poor and incompetent.
The chinks will probably go 'at last our popuration plobrems are sovred'
The yanks will still be in denial that anything is happening at all until it's too late. All in all I think it'll be fun.
>>72618125
>i signed up for anthropology and ethnology studies
where? ZFF?
>>72588934
Both the left and the right are filled with insufferable cunts.
8-10 years ago the big thing was right wing nutters claiming the Earth is only 10,000 years old, Obama was born in Kenya, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly being shown as business men who appeal only to deluded old fucks, and so on. The only difference is that now things are starting to balance out where the left is replacing the right as today's major boogeymen and in about another 5-10 years it'll flip-flip back over to the right again
>>72618319
http://www.ffzg.unizg.hr/etno/?lang=en
this is actually my last choice, but i'll most likely end up there
>>72618125
there are some choice opportunities here if you seize them
one black girl chose to write about pedophiles and how she thinks they deserve the death penalty (lol rape culture is real tho)
I would engage with her and say yeah that is some sick shit. I found a website one time and it was a list of all these women that preyed on boys in their classroom and got away. she got real interested and wrote about it in her paper. death to all pedophile womyn teachers 2bh thanks black lady
>>72595694
This actually blew my mind 3 weeks ago too...
I was on /pol/ when carl was discovered and there were like 100 drawings within the first 4 hours on here, most of them decently drawn.
/pol/ has the thirstiest meme magic wizards
>>72617869
You have presented any facts at all, just old studies without factual results.
>research from 15 years ago about 'gendered socialization' theory that nobody takes seriously any more.
>two studies that proves gay adults acted gay as kids as if this proves some sort of causation, instead of an obvious result of them being gay already from birth.
>an old statement from APA stating that they literally dont know why people are gay.
>hasn't disproven social or environmental factors.
nothing in science can ever disprove social or environmental factors for anything. Thats not the way science works. You can prove how something happens, not how it DOESN'T happen. I can prove that a chicken comes from an egg, but i can't prove that a chicken DOESN'T come from me slapping you across the face until ive slapped you across the face in every conceivable way. And when that 'slap in the face' is instead 'any number of social or environmental factors throughout adolescence' then nobody will ever be able to prove that at all.
>Do you not (consider your mothers biology an environmental factor)?
No i really don't. I consider it a biological factor, because that's what it is. It is nature, not nurture.
Why do you refuse to recognize that modern research points to an epigenetic root for homosexuality is the most plausible?
It is hard science, not loose sociological correlations or baseless speculation.
>republicans more than conservatives
In the States there is practically no difference.
>>72618103
>how is it edgy to not care about mass human death.
Thats like, the definition of edginess anon.
>liberalism originally referred to slave-owning, anti-government entrepreneurs
How the fuck are the left and liberalism the same thing now. How did that even happen?
>>72618516
Enter trump: a centrist negotiator that isn't owned by the banks that drive the democrats and republicans to constantly push strange anti American agendas
>>72620159
Because liberalism is a 'do what you want' attitude.
But now 'what you want' isn't having slaves any more, its being gay or having abortions.
Republicans are the ones trying to police peoples lifestyle choices.
>>72619985
So given that you appear to have found the cause would you be against treating it as the disease it obviously is and developing a cure?
>>72618604
oh shit yeah ffzg, zff is the film festival
>>72620450
>being this deluded
fucking hell
>>72615250
A lot of "scientists" are panicking about global warming, and it's literally nothing.
Just because a "scientist" says something doesn't make it valid. That's actually part of science--objective evaluation of the available data. Regardless of credentials or assumed authority.
>>72620492
I'd rather treat the United Kingdom like the disease it obviously is and develop a bomb.
>>72619985
>nobody takes seriously any more
>citation needed
Studies providing conclusions are considered factual until disproven, you haven't.
>acted gay as kids as if this proves some sort of causation
So gay people inherently behave differently from straight persons even from birth, that's what you're saying. But in saying that, you completely neglect the possibility that this behaviour was induced by parents or other external factors, leading to a socialization which promoted their homosexuality, you've dismissed that point as if it is completely acceptable to do so without providing any evidence at all.
>other factors
Disproven in the simple sense of the worth that their contribution to 'homosexuality' is neglectable, you've only strenghtened the thought that biological factors have a severe influence on homosexuality, which I have not disagreed with. I have provided studies which cannot explain homosexuality based on merely biological factors and were forced to account for social factors to explain certain prevalences of homosexuality, unless you can provide studies in which 'epigenetics' clearly account for the cases of homosexuality, with deviations all falling within the standard deviation, you've in no way disproven that social factors do not contribute, rather, I have proven that social factors do contribute, and you have merely complained about the fact that there biological factors aswell, which was obvious from the start.
>Why do you refuse to recognize that modern research points to an epigenetic root for homosexuality is the most plausible?
I have not. You're simply not able to provide for the necessary evidence, which leads me to doubt your argument, this whole statement implicits that I'm incapable of accepting a different point of view and I feel like you're using this as an ad hominem, I do accept different point of views and am capable of ceding my point, you've simply not provided the evidence for it. You should reconsider using ad hominems.
>>72621050
No, just because a scientist says something doesnt make it valid.
When many scientists come to a consensus about research, then it is valid.
If you're trying to convey that theres some serious opposition to climate change in the global scientific community than you are wrong. The global scientific community recognizes climate change pretty consistently.
>>72620961
>being deluded
How am i wrong? at all? Thats what the word 'liberal' actually means.
How are socially conservative values not restrictive?
I admit that liberals today shame people over their opinions plenty, but they don't try to illegalize them.
>>72592445
Because academics live in a world where everyone is "intelligent", so they don't know about all the evil, stupid people out there.
>>72619985
>In the States there is practically no difference.
I disagree. Conservatism is but a part of the mindset of a general Republican. He is also a Capitalist among others. Not recognizing that allows for attacks on undeserved attacks on conservatism and much more importantly allows for dillusional dilemma's as Republicans and Democrats are no longer seen as the multi-ideological humans they are, but at the walking embodiments of certain concepts to which they adhere, which increases tension between the two groups. Your thought process only allows for more hate and less free discussion.
>>72621461
>I admit that liberals today shame people over their opinions plenty, but they don't try to illegalize them
Dude...
>>72621076
>It's natural! Born this way!
>Find the cause of his disease
>Oh cool so you can be cured?
>Waaaaah! Stop hating on my lifestyle choice!
Pick a side m8, can't have it both ways.
>>72590276
This. I don't know why I ever thought right wing was evil.
>>72621461
>How am i wrong? at all? Thats what the word 'liberal' actually means.
They're libertarians, now.
>>72621461
>How are socially conservative values not restrictive?
Because they're not, they're beneficial, and socially liberal values that the left have are worse. How often do you find Trump supporters attacking Bernouts' cars and stuff? Not very fucking often.
>>72621461
>but they don't try to illegalize them.
Like they're doing with conservatives? With the religious? With Trump supporters? Making conservative views anathema on campus? Trying to ruin people's lives for going to Trump events? White guilt, white privilege, etc?
I can't wait until the minorities they cling to turn on them and kill them. No sympathy from me.
>>72620401
No. Trump will redefine the right to a new level that we haven't seen before. They will try to copy him in every way, shape, and form, the same way they did with Reagan
To the leftist, anything that isn't "progressive" enough is deemed as racist, "problematic", bigoted, greedy, what-have-you. Interestingly enough only the left is so close-minded in their open-mindedness; if you don't adhere to their dogma you are less than human and deserve to be berated for it. Not even the most hardcore christian conservatives are this abrasive or deluded. I've visited the U.S. plenty of times, and while I come from literally one of the most liberal nations in the world I feel nothing but disgust for these dregs.
>>72600926
This
>>72603651
>>72590276
Indeed. Such is the case with left overs of a religion driven society, I think.
We live in a world where religion is being phased out, so to speak. I don't know if that's a bad thing or a good thing, but it's a thing.
The problem is that moral superiority doesn't just leave society- it lingers, and it exists post-religion without purpose.
The purpose before was to go to Heaven. Now the purpose is nothing other than muh feels.
A large portion of the people who were too stupid to reason their way out of organized religion are now being herded into a similar organization-
Religion of government.
They use the exact same methodology, too.
>Join us or you're evil
>We'll take care of you but you have to buy into the system
>The allmighty leader is good and great
>>72588934
The left is all about imposing their will on everyone else.
The right, outside of abortion, not so much.
They just want to be left alone
And that causes the left a lot of psychological pain.
>>72621285
If you accept that there is a probably epigenetic basis for homosexuality than why do you cling to the notion of the contrary? If there is a biological cause of homosexuality than it is unlikely that there is also a social cause.
It is unnecessarily complicated and frankly insulting.
You don't discover that rats cause the plague and then think "Well maybe its 'bad humours' AND rats?" Its just rats. Put the leaches away.
>I have proven social factors do contribute
A study which hypothesizes this doesn't make it a fact.
You want scientific studies within proper deviations to believe epigenetic sources as a fact, but loosely correlated social observance to you is a fact.
If you want the hard science is it here
http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/668167?seq=1#
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bies.201300033/full
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wmm9ox86zSM
Anti Trump
Watch this guy at 2:45
He is dancing like a faggot
How should we name him?
>>72623072
literally this
>>72593793
>it's largely because the conservative movement in the country is associated with everything we've grown up hating
Who grew up that way?
Your parents suck
>>72588934
I'm a moderate leftist with complete acceptance for conservatives. I fucking hate the leftists that end up being intolerant bigots. I don't see how they don't see the double standard.
It might be a familial thing, as over half are ardent conservatives, but why hate a person for their beliefs and opinions? It's just weird.
I like discussing politics with people, but most conservative people I wanted to at least have a little back and forth with seems almost scared talking to me about it. To some I know, I'm not even left enough.
Seriously, fuck the left.
>>72623172
>If there is a biological cause of homosexuality than it is unlikely that there is also a social cause.
That's a false assumption. There are many people that are genetically predisposed to certain conditions, but don't actually display them. These conditions are instead better correlated with their upbringing (for example abusive parents). From this is it clear that both a genetic predisposition and an environmental trigger are often required for the full effect.
>>72621748
Just because we know why people are gay doesn't make it a disease.
>>72621663
You're saying a whole lot of nothing anon. Care to make a point?
Or just post shitty memes and wait for someone to agree with you.
>>72622116
Beneficial and restrictive are not mutually exclusive words anon. Just because something is restrictive doesn't mean its not beneficial.
When you restrict someones behavior, whether its good or bad, its still restrictive.
>>72622116
How are they illegalizing conservatives?
or illegalizing the religious?
or illegalizing trump supporters?
Illegal and 'disagreed with' aren't the same words anon.
>>72611889
Don't telll the Hillary shills our secret ways!!!
