Marxism has absolutely nothing to with political correctness and SJWism.
Prove me wrong.
PROTIP: You can't.
all those are made by jews
>>72566503
Irrelevant.
>>72566672
no its not
0.00001/100 bait made me reply
>prove me wrong
Ok
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School
Critical theory dominates Western academia and gives rise to PC and SJWism
Both Marx and OP were a faggot.
>>72566365
>what is critical theory
Marx very thoroughly described capitalism and how it functioned. Volumes upon volumes about esoteric details of the behaviors of markets.
Co-authors one pamphlet about communism...
and that one shitty, short pamphlet is all he is remembered for.
>everybody must be equal
>we must all be the same
>we must all have the same and think the same as long as it is politically correct and doesn't harm anyone fuck you rich white males you have to pay for what you did in thousands of generations
its all about """"""""""""justice""""""""""""
>>72566365
You wouldn't think so much at first, but the evolution is there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYu6qhd88_M
>>72567098
This.
There are american who can think. Who would have guessed?
>>72566365
they're both for the mentally ill
>>72566951
Cultural Marxism is a bastardization of Marx' work. He would have denounced such shitty kikery.
>>72566951
>>72567028
>>72567105
I'm still waiting for someone to draw a connection between Marx's work and PC-SJWism.
>>72566365
Since the 1960s Feminism has been led and influenced by Marxist theorists. Modern Feminism is literally the application of Marxist class struggle to gender relations. Read Betty Friedan.
>>72567161
>>72567098
Marxism has grown and evolved since Marx. You can argue it's not true Marxism, but that's pointless.
>>72567362
>Implying the fact of class struggle was invented by Marx.
>>72567161
>do a lot of shit that has no influence
>publish another shit but this one results in the biggest genocides ever seen in the world
>somehow the irrelevant work is what should be remembered
>praising someone for "thinking" whilst being completely backwards
>>72567362
They use "marxist" as a label. None of them have ever read anything but the communist manifesto. Any knowledge of what is contained in das kapital or the grundrisse comes as a 5th-hand or 6th-hand source.
>>72566365
Cultural Marxism is an offshoot of the old 'economic' Marxism and is a covert worldwide umbrella group. It has no HQ, no Red Army, no members marching through our White towns and cities with their banners and flags stating, 'Cultural Marxism - the way forward for our nation' or such. But CM has millions of adherents in our White nations - these followers being all SJWs, political, gay/lesbian, black & minority activists, treasonous Trade Union leaders and Leftist media whores who follow the CM agenda therefore they automatically espouse the ongoing CM genocide of Whites.
The idea is a communist one: organize the minority to communities to attack the majority holders of private power and wealth. The easiest way to organize and subvert the majority is along racial lines.
The Sword and the Shield of communism. The sword is ridicule towards the power class, critical subversion through any means necessary. The shield is political correctness. Once the culture of the country becomes subverted by the organized minority classes, it becomes heresy to criticize them in any way. Therefor they are free to behave as subversively as they wish, eroding away at the core values of a country, while the majority population keeps their most powerful weapon at bay, their voice of opposition.
Jews like Saul Alinsky's life philosophy was a satanist one: it is better to be a valuable or ruling member in hell, rather than a minority class in heaven, thus his goal was to create that hell on earth with himself at the head of the subversive army.
>>72566365
This is actually correct. He argues in the manifesto that America's individualism is the cause of degeneracy in America.
He also says that since religions are constantly adapting to secularism then their should be no religion at all. Everything is basically tools of bourgeoisie.
What Marx doesn't realize is that the state never goes away. It just doesn't work that way. You have the same hierarchy as you do in capitalism.
He's right about social change, though. Individualism is suicide. The community should be the number 1 priority or in the Soviet Union's case, (every communist country) the state.
It's ironic that sjws are vouching for collectivism while their culture is so about individualism.
So what, it doesn't work and nobody wants it. Also SJWism is essentially Trotskyism which is just an offshoot of Marxism.
>>72566365
SJWism is the belief that every single social issue boils down to oppressors vs the oppressed; a concept that is clearly in debt to Marx's elaborations on class conflict.
The USSR (and pretty much every form of pure socialism/communism) heavily banned sciences and specifically restricted/banned genetics/biology because it is against the egalitarian movement.
The SJWs are just a popular movement who are manifesting from the Marxist current of thought, here is what happens in the purest currents of Marxist thought when made manifest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressed_research_in_the_Soviet_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Marxism is an unscientific materialistic system, because of this it will ultimately always be extremely inefficient and will always hinder the progression of both the economy and of broader science.
Simply put, the same voice that yells in your ear and stomps on your head with a boot, that tells you that what you clearly see is false is one in the same with the chanting voices of the people who claim to be oppressed. One in the same with the voice that cries out "Equality! Equality! Take from the deserving and give to the undeserving! It is time for the dictatorship of the weak and idiotic!"
>>72566365
Marx said marriage was oppressing women
>>72567629
Male or female, every member of any traitorous Leftist group that is known to espouse Cultural Marxism - and the eleven Frankfurt School recommendations for the destruction of our White nations, (see below) - politician or not, is a traitor. There is no excuse whatsoever for this treacherous whore to openly state it's a good thing for Germans - or any other Whites to be a minority in their own nation. That's a call for the genocide of Whites - nothing less. It's very simple to weed out this traitor scum. It's way past time for Whites to create the spark that will awaken the still-sleeping Whites by taking to the streets in huge numbers with their anti-Cultural Marxist banners, pride of place going to a list of the eleven FS recommendations as follows:
1. The creation of racism offences
2. Continual change to create confusion.
3.The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children.
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity
6. The promotion of excessive drinking.
7. Emptying of churches.
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime.
9.Reliance on the state or state benefits.
10. Control and dumbing down of media.
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family.”
If there are any patriots that need further encouragement then they need only remember that the Talmud-inspired Cultural Marxist Jews and their adherents have been working on this nation-wrecking agenda since 1923, first in Germany, & then in the US and the rest of our White nations. They are responsible for huge crimes against our White nations and the ongoing genocide of our White people. If all that was not enough, then just remember that you are doing this for your children and grandchildren. See the satanic nation-wrecking poison of Cultural Marxism in all of it's ghastly Talmud-inspired horror below. Frankfurt School recommendation No 3:
http://billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/11/the-frankfurt-school-and-the-war-on-the-west/
>>72567245
>(((Karl Marx)))
>would have denounced such shitty kikery
>>72567290
take marx's work and replace the proletariat with women, faggots, transfaggots, blacks, etc
all college marxists these days are SJWs. explain that. both are shit ideas that only retarded liberal arts kids like
>>72567290
no you aren't. >>72567190
>feminism
>degenerace
>muh genocide. OMG 300 trillion just in the USSR!
Still waiting for an argument actually grounded on his work
>>72567646
I wouldn't say sjw are really individualistic in the real sense of the word at all. They are all for a collective narrative of an oppression hierarchy, were the more oppressed groups you are in the more important you and your plight are.
Every act of differentiating yourself is merely superficial, as soon as you leave the groups ideology you get shunned and bullied.
So basically it is a counter community that would like to suck the rest of the world into its bubble and then dissolve it. Like how they want you to deconstruct your race or gender so you too can be a special snowflake in a blizzard of mediocrity.
When everybody is queer, no one is.
>>72567842
>>72567842
The birth of socialism as a model caracterized by ever increasing governmental control over wealth in the name of the "real fairness" is the birthplace of social justice.
The uprising proclaimed by marx, where the youth should take up arms and activelly fight for the destruction of private property, as the only mean of achieving such "fairness" is the first example of social justice in history.
>>72567290
Nobody can. Because in reality Marxism and identity politics are mutually exclusive. There's a reason Bernie is hated by blacks. Because he doesn't believe it's race, gender, etc. problem (no matter how much he may pander to those groups), he believes it's a class problem.
Marxism makes no distinction between poor white people and poor black people, just poor people.
>>72567646
>sjws are vouching for collectivism while their culture is so about individualism.
sjws are very much about collectivism and against individualism a lot of the time. Marginalized groups versus oppressive groups, racial privilege, male privilege all ignore the individual and evaluate on collectivist bases.
>>72566951
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School
/thread
"Compulsory work for the capitalist usurped the place, not only of the children’s play, but also of free labour at home within moderate limits for the support of the family." Capital, chapter 15
He's referring to women's domestic labour being "usurped" by the capitalist.
Sooooooo anti-family...
>>72566365
>litteraly identity politics the religion
>not having anything to do with political correctness
>>72568311
This.
>>72567290
You'll have a long wait then, because there isn't one. However some people in the early 20th century took some of Marx's concepts regarding economics and applied them to culture, thus creating 'cultural Marxism'
>>72566365
What is the frankfurt school?
>>72568311
See
>>72567754
"Proletariat" is simply a place holder word in a variable equation that can and is applied to any form.of identity politics
>>72568423
>>72568490
What is your point? It started, it failed. There is nothing more to it than that.
Is the redistribution by appropriation of all private property by mobs not an example of social justice being conducted on the streets?
>>72568454
How the fuck is a class-based outlook identity politics? It's literally the opposite of identity politics. Maybe you should actually google the definition of buzzwords before you use them.
>>72566951
>critical theory is marxism
Have you tried reading Marx? Throw out those West German revisionists - they can call it Marxism because they're retarded but Marx's own sentiments were diametrically opposed.
>>72566672
Marx was a self-hating Jew though.
"What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.…. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange…. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general." - Karl Marx
European philosophical movements have all kinds of influences. Marx, Freud, Nietzsche, Kant, dozens of others. Only the most extreme, fanatical purist would simply say "it's all Marxism"
>>72568648
Except it isn't. Proletariat was completely and specifically defined to mean the laborers, the working class. There is no ambiguity there. If anyone has replaced it with their own group, then it is no longer what Marx advocated for, and I don't see how you could call it Marxism at that point.
>>72568693
>muh Marx
Literally the 19th century version of a neet. Nigger didn't fight for shit his entire life.
>>72566365
the state has to buy shit for you, the production owners should pay for it : how is that not sjwism ?
>>72567750
Marx was a known anti-Semite. Capitalism is the religion of Jews.
>>72568814
>Moving goalposts: the post
>>72567290
geez morty
>>72568716
It's not like he was any higher on Christianity. Marxists oppose religion, not just one faith.
That said, On the Jewish Question is a great takedown of identity politics.
From the opening:
"Or do the Jews demand the same status as Christian subjects of the state? In that case, they recognize that the Christian state is justified and they recognize, too, the regime of general oppression. Why should they disapprove of their special yoke if they approve of the general yoke? Why should the German be interested in the liberation of the Jew, if the Jew is not interested in the liberation of the German?"
>>72568693
fuck off commie. whites will rule. oh wait, we already do.
>>72568691
>How the fuck is a class-based outlook identity politics
>you belong in x group therefore you need to do z against y group
>>72568847
>Doesn't even make a distinction between capitalists and workers.
>>72568904
That would fly if not for the fact that I am not even part of your original discussion you pleb. Just pointing out that your picture is complete bullshit.
>>72568735
yeah and freud was in fact a elitist. he actually made it clear in his book Civilization and Its Discontents. Its impossible acording with the laws of inconscient be actually socialist or comunist, its just not satisfactory nor its a visible behaviour in children.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM
>>72568716
I thought he was 1/4 Jewish, 3/4 German.
In any case, the Russian Jews co-opted his ideas and created the Soviet Union. I'm convinced destroying Germany was part of their plan all along.
>>72568984
I mean, if you want to change the definition of the term for yourself, that's fine. Just realize that everyone else understands that identity politics refers to the type of shit /pol/acks and Tumblrinas care about, which are intrinsic traits people are born into.
>>72566365
Your country is a poor non-white shithole
Your political opinions are irrelevant
>>72569080
>He can't even tell apart different IDs
Poor, poor Germancuck.
>Be American
>Thinks everything is about your dumb, meaningless culture wars.
>>72566951
>Implying revisionism is marxism
>>72566365
Cuck alert. Honestly marksists are such beta cucks you read a big book written by a cuck who talks about how to be a cuck and just get welfare from the goverment. Carl marks is the bigest cuck
>>72566365
it really doesn't, but you (jew actually) can't bring it into a country without inventing decadence and degeneracy as symptoms of the current society, whilst communism is presented as a better alternative.
>>72566821
Get out cucky troll
>>72566365
Nope just about:
>destroying the family
>telling people they are all equal when they are not.
>taking away religion which makes people happy
>destroying a country
>Wants to believe contemporary american-style Liberalism is Marxist
>Can't come up with an argument.
>"Jews! Degeneracy! Frankfurt School"
>>72569395
>I prep the bull for my boss for 8 hours every day, but you're the real cuck for trying to change that!
Classcuck detected.
Marxism is essentially a narrative of oppression.
Classical marxism
> economic oppression
Cultural marxism
> sexual oppression
> racial oppression
> etc.
Whole justification for SJW movement.
and there is the link
>>72569636
Only cucks read carl marks
>>72569694
I dont have a boss so im not a cuck
>>72569380
lol even the most hardline Stalinist anti-revisionists have incorporated critical theory and SJWism into their beliefs. It is absolutely a crucial part of Marxism.
>>72569636
This desu.
>>72569219
In the contemporary discourse in america this stuff is all too much intertwined though, is it not? I mean sjw are always whining about how the man is keeping their beloved 'poc' down, which basically locks them in a socio-economic class. Lack of social moveability and such nonsense.
>>72569698
This guy connects it quite well - but the word class in itself is not easily defined, so 'Poc vs white' could still be class war.
>>72566365
They think Inheritance is Communism, just like fucking Marx
>>72566365
Marx ended up being worshiped by the exact sort of people he despised. Same thing happened to Che Guevara.
>>72569818
Ever read World Socialist Website? Ever been to /leftypol/? A lot of the sharpest critiques of SJWism come from marxists, because Marx refuted that shit convicingly 150 years ago.
Liberal capitalists, on the other hand, still don't have an answer to SJWism. And the right embraces the same ideas but with a different ethnic group being the good guys.
>>72567290
already told you, faggot. they want the bullshit of justice for everyone, they want succesful people on the ground with the lazy fucks, they want a mediocre society with no future goals other than muh equality
When will American conservatives understand that these cultural trends they despise is the logical consequence of the advancement of the capitalist system?
Political correctness and diversity and multiculturalism are all ideas that serve profit and capital accumulation. It's about including more people in the system so that capitalists can extract economic value from them.
>>72570038
>World Socialist Website
Don't those guys claim Zizek is secretly a right-winger?
Marxist family squabbles are top-tier comedy.
>>72566365
Dialectic materialism is the basis of feminism.
Also what's up with all the pro kike commie shilling going on right now are we getting raided again?
>>72566365
Political correctness and social justice movements stem from critical theorist works. Critical theory is derived from marxism. By the transitive property (which I am implying, but not proving applies to acafemic thought) these movements have their ideological roots in marxism.
We can disagree about the assumption in the parentheses, but the rest of the statement is self-evident and too tedious to prove for something anyone with background on the subject should know
>>72570283
They're ultra-sectarian, don't get me wrong, but they aim a lot of their venom at the SJW crowd.
>>72566365
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics
SJWism is a (bastardized) form of Marxism that puts identity politics over economic policies and reforms.
"Dialectics was a mistake"
t. Marx
>>72570262
Oh it's the autistic "redpilled" kike loving shills from leftypol
SAGE
>>72567098
The manifesto literally says something along the lines of "Rise up, proletariat!" at the end. His message was obvious. His work on capitalism is mostly research so that he could pick it apart in the manifesto.
>>72567750
Have you read On the Jewish Question? He pretty much uses Jews to represent the money-grubbing, selfish bourgeoisie.
>>72570038
I've met a few lefties who reject identity politics. However, typically they are then promptly attacked by lefties of all stripes (socialists, communists, anarchists), who call them "brocialists", "brogressives", accuse them of having "white male privilege" for focusing on class over race/sex etc. The whole intersectional nonsense. As a working class white man I get a ton of shit from pretty much all of the modern left.
I've seen Marx called Eurocentric, Engels called a misogynist. The Marxists need to get their own house in order. Personally I'm still fundamentally opposed to the materialist nature of Marxism, for the same reason I'm opposed to capitalism.
>Corporations include gays, blacks and feminists into mainstream society so they can make a profit.
>"Marxism"
>>72570543
>I told you about the states, Bro
Isn't the redistribution of wealth and the abolition of private property the epitome of SJWism? It is a total leveling of the social order, the destruction of all class and of all social distinction. It's really not difficult to trace a direct line from Marxism to the SJW movement.
>>72570473
I wouldn't mind more leftypol posters and less meme-spouting alt-right/redditor refugees retards desu.
>>72570663
The left is ded, accept it and move on m8.
>>72570746
>Implying SJW's are 100% egalitarian.
>Implying increasing their own power isn't their only goal.
>Implying egalitarianism=Marxism.
>>72570770
Leftcucks are scum they are enabling and supporting White genocide. They are the real enemy they should all be gassed
>>72570903
>White genocide
>i want to bring everyone down to my level because i can't catch up
commies were always sjw
>>72570746
>SJWs
>look at me I'm a trans womyn of color
>eww cis white males
>if you disagree with me you're probably a cis white male
>you need to check your privilege
How is this abolishing social distinction?
Their whole movement is built on building and intensifying said distinctions, especially in places like the internet where they were previously non-meaningful. They literally rage at people for being "colorblind" and treating everyone as human beings.
They may dislike the current hierarchy, but only because they're on the bottom.
>>72570903
Implying mass immigration isn't fueled by the capitalist desire to reduce labour costs.
>>72571070
Except niggers don't work fucking autist
>>72566365
Jean Willis please go gas yourself in the PM torture chambers.
t:bolsodeus
>>72571049
Typical kike leftcuck
>>72571070
Then why are right wing parties generally against open borders you subhuman monkey nigger? Stop regurgitating the talking points you read on leftypol you brainwashed kike useful idiot cretin
>>72570872
I'm saying that there is a clear correlation between Marxist exhortations to overthrow the social order and the tenants of SJWism. The latter has simply given further meanings to class beyond the original social and economic definition. Marx wanted to abolish economic class, SJWs want to also abolish the "classes" of race and gender. For Marxists, the boogeyman was the bourgeoisie, who hoarded wealth and the means of production to the detriment of the working masses. To SJWs, the boogeyman is the white patriarchy, which hordes political and social power.
So, yes, SJWism is a direct biproduct of Marxism. It's no surprise that the harshest early detractors of Marxism (the Church) argued that the ideology advocated the deliberate overthrow of all civil and divine order, and would leave a trail of dissension and destruction in its wake. What we are seeing now is exactly that. The tendrils of this poison have outgrown economy and class and now reach into every other aspect of human life, including the overthrow of something so universally recognised as gender.
>>72571070
We really don't need more low-skilled workers in Europe, we've got plenty of Poles for that.
And if the predictions about further automation are even remotely true then we are shooting ourselves massively in the foot.
>>72571336
I'm not a leftist.
>>72571336
So you admit the hard-right is anti-capitalist.
We're making progress.
>>72571337
>SJWs want to also abolish the "classes" of race and gender
Textbook Liberal-capitalist goal.
>>72566365
Who cares? It won't make it better.
Also closing a wage gap is something that social justice warriors push for.
>>72571336
The presence of people who are different in some way triggers them. Kind of like how whenever a SJW gets modded anywhere on the web they ban everyone who doesn't share their ideology.
If they were smart, they'd join hands with the immigrants and organize with them against the ruling class.
>>72571552
It strikes me that you seem to think I'm a capitalist. I'm not. Nor am I liberal. I consider these to be evils of equal danger to the evil of Marxism.
>>72571472
Capitalism = private ownership of means of production
Nothing about open borders. Open borders have always been an ideological concept of the left and the kikes. Internationalism has always been an integral part of Marxism educate yourself nigger
>>72571656
It strikes me that you want to put everyone you don't like in the same category. Liberal-capitalism is the source of all these things conservatives complain about. Orwell, for example, was a conservative and a socialist.
>>72571675
> Open borders have always been an ideological concept of the left and the kikes
Not really, there have been plenty of liberals(in the European meaning of the word) who pushed for upon borders because it would double muh world GDP.
>>72571675
Open borders = free flow of a commodities (in this case, labour-power). Capitalism.
>>72571846
I don't call myself a conservative, either, FYI.
>It strikes me that you want to put everyone you don't like in the same category.
Yes, that's exactly what I do. I am an absolutist. Either you are with me and with my convictions, or you are not.
>>72568142
brilliant.
>>72571919
Maybe you can realize that these days there is another agenda behind capitalists. Open borders and no borders are two different things.
I'm pretty sure he meant the latter.
>>72572241
>these days there is another agenda behind capitalists.
Same agenda as in the past. Cut costs and increase profits.
>>72572368
Same people will rule communists society.
>>72566365
Watch the latest Stephan Molyneax video.
70% of atheists lean towards the left.
>>72572368
we will fly you to venezuela right now so you can be free from the evil rich white people my commie friend
this man is the pilot
>>72569443
you first trudoll
>>72567105
those aren't the points of marxism.
>>72566365
It's related to the Frankfurt School. You see Marx theorized that the Capitalist world would have a massive war, and that would lead to a worker uprising. This war came with World War 1, but only Russia became Communist, and attempts in Germany and elsewhere failed. So the institute of Marxism decided that instead of linking Marxism to class, and hoping to win a war against Capitalism, they would link Marxism to culture, and degrade the west from within.
The institute of Marxism later changed its name to the Frankfurt school, and all the members happened to be Jewish, and some in particular Sabbatean Frankist.
While you may be right that Karl Marx never planned on culture, his ideas were merely adapted, and likely would be dead by now if it were not for the Frankfurt school creating Cultural Marxism.
>>72574021
>Implying Marxism is a unified political movement.
>Implying 95% of Marx's writings aren't descriptive social science unrelated to political strategy.
>>72567245
uhh he's still got something to do with it. sorry buddy
>>72567777
quads of truth. check it SJWs and Marxist fags
>>72574374
>>72566365
Cultural Marxism is just the application of Marxist dialectic to culture instead of economic classes.
SJWs are called cultural marxists because they view all social ills through the lens of an oppressor and an oppressed class.
If you don't think that's fair, well too bad, you're arguing semantics at this point. Its a matter of linguistic history that the political left are called "liberals" even though they don't care about liberty at all and are in fact authoritarian collectivists, but you don't see me complaining about it.
>>72566365
You're actually right. Marx and Engels were always against fags. They were just focused on the workers dictatorship.
SJWs were a offspring of the Frankfurt School. Even though they were influenced by Marx, they abandoned a good part of the Marx's theories
>>72571062
But you're a loser posting on 4chan. It's perfect you.
>>72566365
I don't care about SJWs, but Marx's economic analysis dosen't hold up very well.
>>72574834
This.
The objective remains the same: world communism.
Marx proposed a way of achieving that objective through a social-economic revolution only possible with class consciousness/struggle.
The Frankfurt school proposed a cultural revolution only possible with what is known as political correctness/SJWism.
They are two sides of the same coin.
>>72574834
>Marxist dialectic
Read Das Kapital. Nothing dialectical about it. "Dialectic" and "scientific socialism" and stuff are Engels's slogans.
>view all social ills through the lens of an oppressor and an oppressed
>Implying an analysis of society based on the idea of power relations is "Marxism"
>Implying the most sober Liberals and Conservatives don't recognize it's all about power.
>>72574834
>Its a matter of linguistic history that the political left are called "liberals"
>linguistic history
>linguistic
>history
>Hurr durr I'm American and I can't think outside the framework of late-20th-century American political typology.
>>72567245
not an argument
>>72566365
>Jews are communists trying to destroy the free market and take over the world
>Jews are captialists who are exploiting the free market and suppressing the whites
LOL, you're kidding right? It's not they're both based on the bullshit Hegelian dialect, social conflict theory, and polylogism.
>>72578120
You're saying non-hegelians can't see the fact that social arrangements are a result of social conflict? Continental philosophy has never looked so attractive.
>>72578120
>polylogism.
>Doesn't understand the historical evolution of the word "logic".
>"OMG all these other philosophies can't understand LOGIC!"
>>72574834
>Cultural Marxism is just the application of Marxist dialectic to culture instead of economic classes.
Explain what you mean fully please.
>>72576072
read their fucking books, if you think the Frankfurters destroyed the world shouldnt you attempt to research them? Look up how they reacted to the late 60s student movements. They were essentially conservative snobs, Adorno called the popo on the first gen SJWs at Frankfurt.
>>72566365
Wrong, Marxism is the economic means of curing stratification among the population, subverting perceived oppression by a ruling class or group of people. The goal of this subversion was to liberate stratified classes, creating a universal utopia in which all man is allocated the means of pursuing a successful and content life.
What do SJWs want to do again? Oh yeah, subvert the white ruling patriarchal male and ensure perceived oppressed peoples are fairly allocated the necessary means of pursuing a successful and content life. Affirmative Action, Minimum Wage, etc, etc.
Cultural Marxism is the cultural application of his theories. It's all about struggle against inequality. It all derives from Social Conflict theory.
>>72571472
>the hard-right is anti-capitalist.
No, the right is the belief in inequality, and Capitalism maximizes this inequality because naturally such a system creates a stratified society.
You must be getting mixed up with Liberal Capitalism, international Finance, shit like that. That's a different form of Capitalism, Capitalism is just simply private individuals owning the means of production, essentially private enterprise.
>>72582936
>Accepts capitalism.
>Doesn't want to accept the logical consequences of the system.
>>72583265
I'm well aware of the consequences, a Capitalist Protectionist nation is a perfectly reasonable thing, a International Capitalism isn't as reasonable.
>>72583265
>Implying communists do
You can bitch about capitalism all day.
>>72583611
I fully accept the obvious good consequences of society being ruled by producers and consumers themselves, instead of being ruled a separate class above them.
>>72570543
Holy fuck I can't believe I'm saying this but this ancom is seriously based. How do Revleft types rationalize these hatefacts from one their idols? I've heard anti-semitism was common among anarchists at one point.
>>72584347
I hope you like the bread lines too. I'm waiting to see a communist utopia so you can laugh in our faces.
You bough into ideology and see everything trough it.
>>72566365
It does in the sense that it's theory is being misused by SJWs. I cringe every time I see class theory being applied to anything other than the prole-bourgeois split.
>>72584572
Bakunin was not an ancom. His ideas are the founding of anarcho-collectivism.
>>72566365
It has at least one thing to do with it. They're all fucking gay.
>>72584994
>implying there's a difference
Left wing factional disputes and splits are always meaningless nonsense. The fact that "queer anarchism" exists makes it hard for me to take this seriously.
>>72585257
>>72584994
In fact the whole reason why that Bakunin quote is so profound is that he's hinting that a specific ideological divide is actually a racial divide to some extent. Tribalism is more important than class and ideology and it seems like he noticed this as a threat to class struggles.
>>72585257
There is a massive difference. Ancoms want the elimination of both markets and money. Ancols want a sort of labor note based economy. This isn't the new contemporary anarchism garbage, this is a major economic split.
>>72584799
>No capitalist class
>Bread lines
Logic...
>>72585682
Reality. History exists to learn from it.
Marxism is a pretty neat ideology but has become, undeservedly, a boogieman for the both the left and right. His work is becoming relevant as fuck with automation and the increasing division of wealth. It would be invaluable to have him around today. Marx was an incredible thinker and if you follow his work chronologically you'll see what makes him so great. His ability to cast aside old ideas and develop new ones is something most people simply don't have the humility to do.
>>72566365
Marxism is a cargo-cult memeplex that holds retarded positions like labour theory of value, it holds many strange un-falsifiable beliefs and it is an extremely useful ideology for power-thirsting psychopaths, hence the reason why every communist revolution has been followed by tyranny and genocide.
>>72585468
Fun fact: Bakunin was a nationalist and pan-slavist before becoming an anarchist.
>>72585826
Sad, such a waste of potential although Russia was gonna get fucked by commies regardless of what one guy did I guess.
Still some of the anarchists weren't all bad, even though a stateless society is a silly idea.
