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Ron Paul is OFFICIALLY #NeverTrump
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278141-republicans-who-vow-to-never-back-trump

Trumpfags B T F O

Where were you when the original meme candidate rejected the shitty impostor?
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Yeah well, ron paul was empty promises, I already have been on that train before...
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>>72536994

Ron Paul vows to never back anyone who isn't Ron Paul.
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>lolbertarians
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Rand Paul is a dried up old meme who although had ideas that many libertarians on here approved of, he didn't have what it took to win. Time for a nationalist alpha male to take the stage.
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What a faggot. I hope he enjoys getting raped by spics and other assorted third-wolders.
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>>72536994
I don't know enough about murrican politics to see his reasoining.

but who cares if the habbening meme man doesn't support Trump?
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>>72537234
*Ron
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>>72536994
Ron Pauls a faggot guy was literally in the government forever and never accomplished shit. Apparently lolbertarians are the most accepting of people simply claiming this and that but never doing absolutely anything except enriching themselves above all else
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>>72537300
Ron Paul is a libertarian who has consistently opposed domestic government encroachments and U.S. military interventionism abroad.

Donald Trump is an authoritarian who loves the surveillance state and has consistently supported U.S. military intervention abroad but now lies and fools his supporters about his record.
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>>72536994

It's officially not happening.
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>>72536994
>>72537131

Even his own boi?!
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>>72537409
>implying it makes a difference
both Paul's still couldn't win
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>>72536994
I honestly don't get why Ron Paul and Rand Paul are so assblasted about Trump. Yes, he's not a libertarian or anything, but Trump is the closest thing to a non-interventionist that we've gotten in decades.
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>It's not too late. We can stop the Happening!
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>>72537043
>Ron Paul is empty promises
>Trump isn't
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>meme politician hating the god emperor

Dam he is toast amirite op? Xppp
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>My header upon reading this thread
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>>72536994
Ron Paul isn't the original meme candidate he's the President we were supposed to have back in 2012.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_WBo4sfmi4
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>>72536994
What the fuck are these guys going to do when Trump is the nominee? Don't party whips exist to make them shut the fuck up and be united?
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>>72537619
Yeah, namely Ron's promise that he was going to change anything
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>>72537449
>Ron Pauls a faggot guy was literally in the government forever and never accomplished shit

Sounds like a certain someone I know from the Democratic party.
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>>72536994
old fart need to fuck off

libertarian is literally the most fedora tipping ideology out there
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>>72537477
>Trump
>consistently supported U.S. military intervention
But that's not true.
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Ron Paul was always controlled opposition for the republican establishment. His memishness is what got Romney the nomination.

Too goofy to take seriously. Like his policies somtimes but will never lead to change
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Ron Paul was a meme lol. The only reason people ever liked the old fool was because he wasn't afraid to speak out about the truth of 9/11
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>>72537585
>I honestly don't get why Ron Paul and Rand Paul are so assblasted about Trump
They lost doing things the way they're supposed to be done while Trump is winning while being brash and fucking the whole process a new asshole.
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>>72536994
>http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278141-republicans-who-vow-to-never-back-trump

So these assholes
These fake conservative would rather gave HILLARY the choice for at least 2 SCOTUS seats?
They think HILLARY will be better for the economy?
They thin HILLARY will have better foreign policy?
They think HILLARY will be better on immigration?
They think HILLARY will be better on healthcare,social security, welfare?

Fuck every one on that list
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>>72537619
Nigger, Trump can accomplish more of his promises than any other candidate in the race on theirs. Stop being a fucking retard.
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>>72537585
I can't decide if Paul is just a salty Jewbertarian old sperg showing his true colors, or if this is a part of a long con by the Pauls and Rand into fooling the Neocons to get them to trust them.
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Ron Paul was America's last hope. He actually didn't succumb to being an Israeli puppet meanwhile Trump is a proud Zionist and has great amounts of support amongst Zionists and the Jewish lobby.

But I don't expect /pol/ to be consistent. They're all a bunch of beta males who are blinded by Trump's alpha persona. No one actually thinks this guy will get anything done.
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>>72537477
thanks for explaining. makes sense for him then.
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>>72537477
Ron Paul is willing to run off a cliff in a globalist world that would take advantage of our foreign policy including trade. Trump is right that our trade partners deliberately fuck us over and hurt our local jobs and economy.
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>>72537717
Indeed Bernie is the exact same don't know why people are too stupid they can't see through the professional politician bullshit
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>>72537449
> Lead political movement on principles of minimizing government waste
> Achieve nothing whilst earning $200k/year
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>>72537131
Basically this

>>72537550
The story is Ron was actually very cold to Rand's presidential ambitions. First he cucked him in 2012 when Rand planned to run apparently without even notifying him (Rand had already started to prelude a presidential campaign). The story is him, Lindsey Graham and someone else (forgot, I think DeMint) were all talking in the green room together, and when the subject of Rand came up, Ron started passive aggressive shittalking his own son.

And in 2016 he was very cold and distant from Rand's campaign. Only endorsing and openly supporting him once it was doomed.
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>>72537477
>Donald Trump is an authoritarian who loves the surveillance state
ron pauls idea is unrealistic in this day and age
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>>72537585
>Trump is the closest thing to a non-interventionist that we've gotten in decades.

Except his track record says otherwise:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/26/cruz-is-correct-trump-supported-hillarys-libya-debacle/

Trump has never been a non-interventionist when it actually would've mattered.
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>>72537821
That's the point. Trump is destroying the beast. He's the essence of conservative libertarians.
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>>72536994
He was also #NeverGoingToBePresident too.
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>>72536994
he's just trying to stay relevant

nobody cares about Ron or his zionist son anymore
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>>72537757
Yes, it is, moron:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/26/cruz-is-correct-trump-supported-hillarys-libya-debacle/
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>>72537853
B8
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>>72536994

Ron was good back when he ran before in 2012, he's too soft now. He's not what the world needs at the moment. These are times of violence and we need a man whose willing to use it.
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>>72537739
> Income tax is slavery
> Public schools are slavery
> Parking meters are slavery
> Actual chattel slavery is more of state's rights issue
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>>72537821

This. Also he can actually talk, and the country is fucking starved with someone with balls.

Whenever I see Obama with Putin, talking to a white man who he can not intimidate with his blackness, and looking like a dried shrimp, I cringe, knowing, "Well, that's my leader."
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>>72536994
The same place I was 4 years ago. Except this time the meme candidate actually has a chance of winning it all.

Ron Paul had his chance.
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>>72538070
>Zionist son
He says this while backing Trump who fucking has a Jewish daughter and who comes from Jew York and who has done business with Jews his whole life and who has admitted that he is a proud Zionist and will always back Israel no matter what.

Trump would love nothing more than for Bibi to shove his big fat Israeli dick up his ass.
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>>72537585
The same reason Jesse Jackson is assblasted about Obama.
>"It should have been me!"
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>>72537866
Why would you rather him go full david duke about da joos he would never be elected. Nah he is smart by avoiding that kind of stuff that could hurt his chance at nomination
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>Here's a list of Republicans who won't back Trump as nominee.
>Jonah Goldberg
I just love this.
>Rick Wilson
AHAHAHAHA
>Glenn Beck, radio host
GEEZ OH MAN
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>>72537853
You want to believe so hard I can feel it. Feels fat and virgin
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>>72538005
>>72538104
Trump expressed doubts about Iraq as early as 2003. I'm not saying he's a peaceful dove or anything, but he's much more likely to stay out of foreign wars than pretty much any president since Carter. Especially when you look at Hillary. Whenever Trump advocates force, he makes it clear that he wants to take them out and then leave not nation build.
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It's interesting how Ron Paul is NeverTrump while everyone else in his corner are openly Trump supporters.
Lew Rockwell, Walter Block, Tom Woods....all openly stump for Trump. And yet Ron doesn't.

Could have something to do with Trump BTFOing his son on national TV
It's also kind of strange because anons were saying just yesterday that Rand was going to endorse Trump right before the Indiana primary
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>>72536994
It's no wonder. He came close to feeling the Bern until he realized he would lose.
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I assume most of us grew out of being paultards years ago
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>>72538432
>Feels fat
>says the mexican
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>>72538116
>>72538432
He can enforce border patrols and throw illegals crossing the border back over.

That's more than anyone else can definitely do without Congress's help.
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>mfw a libertarian is talking about race near me
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>>72537717
He was the test post of the repubs.
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Ron Paul is a LOLbertarian.

Libertarianism is a mental illness.

B-but muh Ayn Rand!!!
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>>72536994
He's a registered Libertarian. Rand is more conservative and he said he'd support Trump.
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>>72538436
>Trump expressed doubts about Iraq as early as 2003. I'm not saying he's a peaceful dove or anything, but he's much more likely to stay out of foreign wars than pretty much any president since Carter.

Trump didn't clearly turn against Iraq until around the same time the general public did. And he thought regime change was fine in 2002.

Trump's support of intervention in Libya and getting rid of Gaddafi in 2011 was even more unequivocal and vigorous.

He likewise thought deposing Mubarak in Egypt was swell.

Look how much of a cuck Trump turned into during that AIPAC speech. You have be more gullible than Berniebots to believe that Trump wouldn't keep up the same ol' interventionist policy. He's NEVER demonstrated foresight on the topic when it would've mattered. You're just falling for his lies.
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>>72538661
>he's going to do it without congressional support
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>>72538239

Yet he said he would be neutral in the Palestine Israel conflict to help secure a peace between them. All the while Cruz sucks their cock like a two but whore.

>Flag

I don't care.
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>>72538506
Why in the motherfuck would an old school libertarian support an old school commie who literally wants to tax more, give more free government stuff and centralize the government more?
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Ron Paul was the meme candidate. Never grew out of the meme to win anything
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>>72538590
>tfw I grew out of being a edgy libertarian
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>>72536994
I'm glad lolbergtarianism is finally irrelevant. Was easily the most doomed political ideology of all time considering the SJW totalitarians we're up against.
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>>72539015
Maybe he's gone senile
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>>72539015
who bernie sanders
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>>72538955
Go back to r*ddit desperate shill
>>>/r/politics
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>>72536994

Ron 'rickets' Paul

Wanted to genocide millions of Americans by slashing welfare

Embarrassed himself in front of Bernanke by waffling about the gold standard

A real "patriot"
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>>72536994

He's OBVIOUSLY jealous.
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>>72539099
I agree it combines the worst of both parties
>wants to give corporations full reign on everything
>wants unlimited immigrants for there slave society
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>>72536994
>Ron Paul screwing his son out of a position in Trumps regime.

I remember when Ron Paul talking about the federal reserve and monetary policy. He should go back to doing that.
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I can't see him endorsing cruz or kaisch

he hates his entire party just like trump does, for different reasons
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>>72539237
>can't refute the argument
>pull the Reddit card
Trumpfags, everyone.
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Ron Paul and Donald Trump is tearing me apart.

2012 Me voted for Ron Paul in the Republican presidential primary

2016 Me voted for Donald Trump in the Republican presidential primary

There is an internal war for my very soul happening right now. Liberty versus Nationalism. Can these two ideals be reconciled?
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Libertarianism would only work in a 100% white society and likeminded people
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>>72539443
yes they can. make your country free, love it because it's free

and by free I don't mean muh immigrants
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>>72538955
>And he thought regime change was fine in 2002.
He had a reluctant, "yeah, I guess so." And a lot of people thought we should have gone in at the time because they thought he had WMD.

>Trump's support of intervention in Libya and getting rid of Gaddafi in 2011 was even more unequivocal and vigorous.
This is true.

>He likewise thought deposing Mubarak in Egypt was swell.
This is not true. He neither supported it or criticized it at beginning.

>You have be more gullible than Berniebots to believe that Trump wouldn't keep up the same ol' interventionist policy.
Considering how all the jews are losing their minds over the phrase "America first," I'm pretty sure he would change things up a bit.
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>>72539099
>considering the SJW totalitarians we're up against.
Enforcing minimal government constitutionally prevents anyone from turning the government into a totalitarian marionette. The problem with totalitarianism of any kind is that it can be hijacked.
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>>72539286
Yeah, it's like Ron Paul is slowly realizing
"Hey, if I talk tough instead of like a ninny, people will want to follow me"
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>>72539443
After Nationalist reach their goal maybe some liberty will come too
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>>72539024
Sounds like Trump's inevitable loss to Hilldog to me
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>>72539581
amazing someone who talks about Capitalism and Liberty is so out of touch with common people or consumers. Trump knows more about people's concerns than an ideologue like Ron Paul
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>>72536994

who cares what that stuttering faggot says?
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>>72539443
>Can these two ideals be reconciled?
Yes, if you read the constitution given to Americans by the founding fathers you'll understand that what Trump is doing is futile. Liberty to the citizens is true nationalism.
Trump help the country a little, but national debt will still skyrocket like it did in Cuckbama's terms. Social security for the niggers and mexicans will not be cut. Military spendings will not be cut. Taxes will still be high. That isn't nationalism.
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>>72536994
This is a lie because it means that ron paul would be a faggot which is impossible
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>>72537131
This.

The problem with Ron Paul and the libertarians like him is that they're too ideologically pure for their own good. If you're never willing to compromise you're never going to get anywhere. And by compromise, I don't mean compromise your values. I mean it in the sense of making alliances with people who don't 100% agree with everything you say.

I mean, think of it this way. Let's say there are two candidates. One I agree with on 75% of things and one that I agree with on 10% of things. A super-ideologically-pure person would throw up their arms and say "WELL NEITHER OF THESE CANDIDATES ARE THE ONE FOR ME!", even though clearly one is much more aligned with my own interests, even if not 100%. And in this situation, trump aligns far more with Ron Paul's values than the democrats, socialists, and neocons that currently dominate political discourse.

You can't just sticking to your guns 100% of the time, never compromising by never teaming up with anyone that disagrees with even a little of what you say. You can never make progress towards your goal that way.

This is the same problem I have with the people who say TRUMP ISN'T THE CANDIDATE FOR US because he's not a white nationalist and not hitler 2.0. Yeah, he's no /pol/ack, but he's much more aligned with our interests than any other candidate.
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>>72538956
It's already in the budget, friend. The only reason Obama hasn't done it is because he's an anti-American faggot that told our border patrol to stand down.
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>>72537131
Ron Paul is a liar who promises happenings but never delivers
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Ron Paul on the same list as neocons like Bill Kristol


He dun goofed
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>>72539519
>He had a reluctant, "yeah, I guess so."
He also said "I wish we had done it right the first time." In other words: he supported regime change.

>>72539519
>This is not true. He neither supported it or criticized it at beginning.
He called Mubarak's removal "a good thing."

And you agree that he supported intervention in Libya.

Trump has also called for sending 30,000 ground troops in Syria. Again, his "non-interventionism" is a fraud, just like many other things about the man/
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>>72536994

>Ron Paul is a globalist cuck

Huh
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>>72538956
You don't need congressional support for border defense and wall building. The laws are already on the books and the ability is firmly within the executive branch's domain.
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Ron Paul is a pussy. Only good for the doom memes.
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>>72539855
Trump wants to increase spendings, and doesn't want to cut any freebies for the poor or the multi-millionaires. We're talking about trillions of dollars here. It's not pure ideology.
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>>72539743
>Sounds like Trump's inevitable loss to Hilldog to me
And you cucks would've said the same about Trump losing Jeb Bush before the primaries even started.
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>>72536994
Ron "Give me sharia or give me death" Paul
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>>72540027
Except you DO need congressional support to spend government money.

Take this story for example
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/01/28/pentagon-tells-congress-to-stop-buying-equipment-it-doesnt-need.html
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>>72539743
He's going to destroy her. Just watch.
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>>72539954
>just like many other things about the man/

you're getting too greedy here. if you're going to try and brigade 4chan with memetic warfare, you need to keep your attacks granular and focused instead of alluding to broader themes. otherwise the other users will subconsciously pick up on your bias
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>>72536994
It's really a shame Rand fumbled.

I'm still voting for Johnson.
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>>72536994
Ron Paul is an old kook that blames everything wrong with Islam on US intervention. Rand has put forth a bill to ban immigration from Muslim countries, and he has said he would back Trump.
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Who cares?
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>>72540196
just vote for Hillary. Makes no difference.
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>>72537550
dang you beat me to it.
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>>72536994
>all these newfags here that dumped ron immidiately

listen here, I like Trump
but please, there's a logical explanation for Ron to do this.
Other anons have explained this.

No need for "HAHA FUCK THIS OLD MAN FAGGOT XD"
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>>72539855
>too ideologically pure
I keep hearing this but this isn't an excuse or compliment. It's like saying SJWs are too 'ideological pure' because they want freedom for everyone including trannies, pedophiles, etc. No they're pompous dogmatics who think they know better than everyone else because they follow a particular ideology. Libertarianism isn't some settled "science" It's an ideology. Sure history has show big government is bad doesn't mean it's bad and always will be bad. For example: Singapore is capitalist, localist country that is big government
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>>72536994
>yfw Trump reneges on all his policies for general election and turns out to be in it just for fame like always and wins easily

>based Paul saw this from the beginning
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>>72540315
You're right. It makes no difference. I've voted for decades just to have it on record that it wasn't my fault when this day came.

It's been a one-party-posing-as-two state for a long time, but what's new is that the people, the masses not just the handful of aspies that pay attention to these things and start to see the patterns ahead of time, but the regular mom and pops folks all over the country, they're starting to see what's going on.

They'll vote Trump and they'll get Hillary anyhow, one way or another. What do you think they'll do then?
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>>72540214
Islam is fucked up but they would have nothing to do with the US if it didn't intervene. Why would they attack some random country in another continent?
US intervention is part of the Jews' plan to kill Muslims and whites as they battle each other.
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>>72540367
I don't get why he's so against Trump. I get that he's worried on Trump's positions on torture and surveillance, but a lot of their positions have parallels. Shouldn't he be more against the religious zealot that wants to police bathrooms?
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>>72537477
How can you make shit up like this you fucking liar.

Trump is against militar interventionism.
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>>72538239
this is true. haven't you guys seen Trumps AIPAC speech?
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>>72539015
im sure that was taken out of context
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>>72537131
He endorsed Pat Buchanan back in the 90s, and Trump called Buchanan a neo nazi back in the early 2000s
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>>72539286
He actually is. Despite Trump being the only major candidate in the Republican party to ever even propose to audit the Fed. The biggest boogeyman among LOLbertartarian circles
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>>72537836
welcome to the red pill
2 party system is a sham
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>>72541328
So much this.

And he says that Trump is awful because of the wall and taking the internet from ISIS, but then goes and praises Bernie the fucking communist who wants absurd tax and spending is the most libertarian candidate...

Fuck yourself Ron.
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>>72537711
The people bitching about Ron Paul not liking or supporting Trump arebthe same whiny cunts that were mad when he didn't support Romney.

Ron Paul is an extremely principled man and is just being who he always has been
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>>72541328
Trump isn't going to do that lol
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>>72540828
Do some research into Trump's record, dumbshit huemonkey:


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/26/cruz-is-correct-trump-supported-hillarys-libya-debacle/
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>>72541328
>>72541328
And instead of ringing up Trump to help him in his quest to audit the fed he writes commentary on his website visited by 12 people a month. There's an opportunity to bring positive change and he sits on his ass making snarky comments like some youtube persona.
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>>72537717
Ron Paul's Federal reserve audit bill is the only reason we actually know about the roughly 17 trillion dollars the Federal reserve secretly loaned out(to various special interest) after the bubble burst.

It would have done more to stop this in the future but that two faced kike Sanders neutered the bill before it even had any opposition on the floor of the Senate. Sanders amendments also gave the Federal reserve more power.

Also the point of Ron being there was to do nothing relatively speaking.

The Federal government already does way to much most of which it isn't even supposed to do. Ron was about the only man in all.of Congress that would veto anything that didn't adhere to the Constitution which is what all of our Congressmen should be doing
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>>72539250
Slashing welfare does not equal genocide. Its like pulling the plug on dead weight
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>>72542521
Problem is that auditing the FED is one of a few things him and Trump agree on.
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>>72543463
And Ron Paul agrees with pretty much nothing else with other candidates. Why not get one of his pet projects done?
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>>72542398
Why are you spamming that shit from fucking La Rata to boot you fucking shill?

And rato is so much reliable when he is a fed shill who will put the US in every war they want.
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>>72537645
If he was denied the nomination despite winning you might have something to go on, but he was 8 million votes behind Romney. Pauldrones need a reality check.
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>>72537449

>hates the government

>works in the government

Well theres your problem right there
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>>72536994
GOD. Why is he such a faggot all of a sudden? He used to be so cool back in '08
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>>72544838
>huemonkey too stupid to read Trump's own words quoted in the article
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What do Ron Paul and Mitt Romney have in common?

They're both failed candidates. Sad!
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>>72536994
I never got the appeal for Ron Paul. He's a frail old libertarian who'd probably have a heart attack in the oval office. Is it because there wasn't a better candidate in 08 and 12?
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>>72537853
>there fags out there who truly believe that
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>>72536994
Ron Paul is the Libertarian Bernie Sanders. I don't care what a dank old meme thinks about the Trump.
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After the foreign policy speech, I'd have thought he'd have changed his mind. Everything Trump was talking about lines up with everything Ron was saying, except now since people have been exposed to the ideas for long enough, they're not ignoring them.

>>72541328
Yeah, this is pretty much what I've chalked it up to. It's been pretty obvious in all his online postings everywhere. As long as the Fed is audited and ended, our jobs are brought back, all the wasteful spending is stopped, and our foreign policy is one of non-intervention, I don't care who gets it done and he shouldn't either.
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>>72545549
>Idiot too stupid to believe on La Rata and his weak lies

Rato is eager to serve his masters at the fed, and you would believe this because he lip-services that he's anti-establishment and pro small government.
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>>72546443
>he thinks the videos and transcripts of Trump's comments on Libya in 2011 are fabricated by Cruz

Trumptards, everyone.
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>>72546685
It's lip-service, idiot, he is just saying this for propaganda means, and would start the same kind of wars if he was in presidency.

>I said he fabricated it

The level of lying, are you rato himself?
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>>72536994
>not realizing that we always pick the best of the available
>not realizing that if Trump was running against Ron paul in '08 and '12 we would most definately pick Trump and disregard Ron Paul as irrelevant

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