There is a scandal going on in the UK right now.
Here is Naseem "Naz" Shah, one of the rising stars of the Labour party.
>“Solution for Israel-Palestine conflict — relocate Israel into United States,” with the comment, “Problem solved.”
>Ms. Shah added a note suggesting the plan might “save them some pocket money.”
>Naz Shah compared “Apartheid Israel” to “Hitler”
Some hepcats are demanding for her to be expelled from the party.
>>72519900
>relocate Israel into United States
sounds good 2bh
Give them Kalifornia.
Sounds decent in principle, but remember where she's coming from.
Muslims say this shit out of self-interest, not out of a desire for justice.
>>72519900
Well I agree to some extent. If Jews got their ethnostate in America, maybe it would be easier for whites to get one as well?
>>72519900
they already own the usa
>>72519984
bring them here so they can experience marxism first hand.
>>72520208
Fuck that, out it in England.
>>72520315
We're a Muslim country, lad.
>>72519900
>relocate Israel to US
But it is already there. US is the slave plantation of Zionists for at least a century now.
It's great that this backfires for the Jews so badly
HOLY FUCK
DO
NOT
OPEN
THE
PICTURE
*triggered*
>>72520208
NORTHWEST FRONT
>>72519900
>Naseem "Naz" Shah
there is your problem
>>72519900
>Some hepcats are demanding for her to be expelled from the party.
Jeremy "Gulag the Kikes" Corbyn would never do that.
>>72519900
Israel should have been in New York from the start.
>>72519900
Why does the US have to be a dumping ground for everyone? Why not shove the kebabs into somalia, it's not like anyone could stop that.
>>72519900
Better answer: Relocate Israel to Madagascar, bring Hitler's plan to fruition that existed before the "Final Solution" was enacted
>>72519900
No thanks. There is already land set aside for them in Russia.
>>72520364
How is it for backfiring for the Jews?
Labour is doomed and the pro-Israel Cuckservatives will be in power for the next 10-15 years.
>>72519900
>Ms. Shah
that's an "o" away from a full blown shoah
>>72519984
GTFO MY COUNTRY REEEEEE
>>72520536
>"""YOUR""" country
Somebody Seventeen Seventy-Six that cunt.
>>72520339
That's something the Israelis should be used to then, don't want to culture shock them too much.
>>72519984
Ever been to Death Valley?
Good plan.
>>72519900
Germany should have been made to cede territory to a Jewish homeland after WW2 which would have saved a shitload of trouble in the middle east. Instead USA and Britain surrendered to right-wing zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang and Irgun setting a precedent that unleashed a pandora's box. Since then all manner of scum have felt justified resorting to terrorism because it worked for the zionists.
>>72520493
Jews are vampires and can't live for themselves, that's why they don't want to go there.
>>72520384
nice try swedecuck
>>72520569
Fucking kek
>>72520573
gib me colorado
>>72520650
>Germany should have been made to cede territory to a Jewish homeland after WW2
How about you ceded your own homeland since you fought for them you dirty self-hating cucks?
>>72520208
>maybe it would be easier for whites to get one as well?
lolno
Well considering there are more Jews in the US than in Israel and the fact that Jew Worship is a thing over there with the evangelicals, I wouldn't be surprised if Israel is relocated to the US in the future. The Middle East will becomes uninhabitable once Pakistan or any other terrorist tries to get their hands on nukes, or once climate change renders that whole region uninhabitable. I still don't know why Jews decided to create their homelands in a shit hole region. Most Jews aren't even descendants of Ancient Israelites but Anatolian Turks and Greeks and Persians. Most Jews aren't even religious,
>>72520359
Of international Jews not of Israeli Jews. There's a difference.
>>72520824
>Jew Worship is a thing over there with the evangelicals
Those evangelicals only love the Jews *in* Israel.
>>72519900
both her and ken livingstone wre suspended from te party.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/apr/29/labour-antisemitism-crisis-party-fallout-ken-livingstone-suspension-live
personally id rather they wouldnt. it wuold have made it easier for ukip in the next ellections.
>>72520824
Implying Manhattan and Long Island aren't already a Jewish homeland.
>>72520824
>Jew Worship is a thing over there with the evangelicals
Man, you're not fucking kidding. Those morons fucking LOVE Israel.
>>72520919
>1800 7k Jews in Israel
>1922 94k Jews in Israel
1946 630k Jews in Israel
You do realize that all those international jews came to Israel and magically became Israeli jews? The fuck is wrong with you finland? You are supposed to be autistic and smart.
I love this "all Jews have the beliefs" meme
>>72521527
I mean the same beliefs, sorry.
>>72521369
He probably meant internationalIST Jews:
>Internationalism is a political principle which advocates a greater political or economic cooperation among nations and peoples, and whose ideological roots can be traced to both socialism and liberalism.
>both socialism and liberalism.
>socialism and liberalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalism_(politics)
>>72520650
You must have missed the part where the German Reich offered them land in the Ottoman Empire but your government has surpassed that offer. That Palestine deal is on your ancestors.
>>72519900
>>Naz Shah compared “Apartheid Israel” to “Hitler”
Is she comparing a country and a state to a person? It makes no sense
>Naz Shah compared “Apartheid Israel” to “Nazi Germany''
That makes sense
>>72519900
>left is tearing itself apart as tolerance and acceptance for Mudslims comes up against Muslim hatred of Jews and they can't decide which one comes higher on the oppression scale
I'm enjoying the show so far desu.
>>72519900
Her views are shared by most of the Labour support-base. The average working class man either doesn't care about politics much or knows that Labour has screwed them over.
>>72521850
>haha look the left is tearing itself apart
Someone says this every day. It isn't happening
>>72519900
Does this mean the Labour Party is close to dying?
>>72520824
>Jew Worship is a thing over there with the evangelicals
I have no clue what edition of the Bible the merchant has sold to them but there is no way that after reading the two books you can come out in favor of Jews.
>once climate change renders that whole region uninhabitable
The chances of Jesus showing up again in Israel are much higher than that.
>>72520751
You can have Arizona, just so long as we can stop funding your failed nation, final offer.
>>72520824
>once Pakistan or any other terrorist tries to get their hands on nukes
Pakistan has nukes already you dumb fucking bogan
>>72521912
Support for Labour is tanking and this latest disaster is just going to make it worse.
>>72520824
>Well considering there are more Jews in the US than in Israel and the fact that Jew Worship is a thing over there with the evangelicals
Evangelicals don't worship Jews. They support Israel to an absurd level since they believe Israel is a sign of the apocalypse and they need it to exist until the rest of the signs have activated so Jesus will return.
>>72522019
i was waiting for someone to point that out.
im amazed at how many polacks didnt notice that.
>>72520650
How about more fucking ovens, fuck those traveling jews they never had a country, why would anyone give them one.
>>72520751
Come and take it, filthy kike.
>>72521850
It is nice that there are certain taboos being broken. Zionism really needs a reevaluation because everyone is bending over backwards to put Israel first. Those 10 minutes about Israel in every Republican debate so far can't sit well with the masses.
>>72521933
Give them Mississippi or West Virginia. It's not like anything worthwhile is going on in either of those states anyway.
>>72521933
it's a deal
>>72519900
Why is this slut not wearing a burka? Stone her!
>>72519984
i agree, maybe Israeli jews can talk some sense into all the liberal kikes we have in the US.
>>72522214
Yeah I guess, they would probably assimilate better in California though, all the self hating whites would bend over backwards to show how accepting they are and shit, they would be goyim after any Israeli Jews heart.
>>72519900
>>Naz Shah compared “Apartheid Israel” to “Hitler”
Aside from the fact that many a person has already done this, what's the problem with it in the first place?
>>72522213
those minutes are there because republican base cares alt about the subject.
i dont believe half the candidate give two shits about israel, but they pretend to because this is what the voters want.
>>72522291
wont happen. we are like we are because we have a nation state, not the other way around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_Judaism
>>72520824
climate change is projected to fuck up the Arabian peninsula not sure about the other parts of the region.
>>72522165
tough guy
>>72519984
We got plenty of land. But it wouldn't be that shithole area of land God promised you.
>>72522402
The Evangelical base is on life support as evidenced by the current election. In 20 years people will wonder why they ever mattered as a demographic.
>>72522381
The subtext is that the left of the Labour Party is under attack from the New Labour Blairite pro EU centrists because they're butthurt over Comrade Corbyn.
Centrists pretending to be left/right are the real enemy IMHO.
Wouldn't UK come into conflict with the US if this shit gets push through ?
>>72519900
>hepcats
I love you for using this word
I really do
>>72520493
its less than 2% jewish now you have old stats
>>72520751
If you clean up Mexico you can keep it.
>>72522402
>those minutes are there because republican base cares alt about the subject.
This is exactly what I don't believe to be true. Especially not after those decades wasting away American lives in the Middle East and having nothing to show for except failed states and traumatized generation struggling in the homeland now. It is simply too much and even Michael Savage worried about the Israel lobby pushing too offensive. There is a change in the American political landscape and it is a wish by both left and right that America comes first.
>>72522604
maybe. but they still make a significant part of the republican base.
How about you relocate these rats to Madagascar like the originally intended plan?
>>72522686
Fuck you nigger.
>>72522542
Does the wall in Israel go around the whole country
>>72522604
I think they came in with Reagan and brought in fanatical votes to help the Rep win
>>72519900
FUCK NO.
Relocate Israel to somewhere in Europe, Australia or Argentina like they originally wanted.
>>72522766
Don't be mad at him because your country has turned into an even bigger shit hole Jose.
>>72519900
>fucked up upbringing
>electorate is literally a muslim no go zone
>>72519900
My dads an old leftist (he was the green representative of my area, Imagine a leftist version of Steven Molyneux and that's my dad ) but when he heard the story about Livingstone getting expelled for supporting Naz he went full redpilled. He started swearing saying "The fucking Jew lobbyists are fucking ferocious". Kind of surprised me
>Nassem "Let Bradford's Call To Prayer Be Louder Than The Screams Of 7 Gorillion Jews" Shah
>Ken "Zyklon Ken" Livingstone
Who is next? I think the "racist" accusation is wearing a bit thin now.
>>72521925
Yes, its long-awaited demise will be a victory for all whitekind
>>72522729
They'll fall in line because they love their guns. Catering to their issues of choice won't be necessary as long as the left keeps up their attacks on the 2nd amendment.
>>72522779
I don't know who got the first big push from them but Barry Goldwater was warning about making them a part of the party back in the 60s so I think it predates Reagan. Maybe he was just way ahead of the curve.
>>72522966
The English are the only nation of people whose existential will to survive has not been truly tested against the chicanery of international jewry, primarily because the origins of English culture and society share 50% of its DNA with international kikery.
What will happen when the central bank in Jerusalem/Washington is truly at odds with the bank of England? It will be the final great usurer's civil war.
>>72519900
the muslims have like 20 countries....why can't they leave one little country alone?
>cause they are muslims
>>72522381
If she is already identifying Israel as Apartheid state than she could simply compare it to South Africa instead of making such a stretch just to throw Adolf Hitler in the context.
>>72522706
i think attributing the wars to the jewish lobby vastly exaggerate its power.
surely it becomes weaker as time passes.
i dont think the left want america first as much as it doesnt want wars. i wonder how the general population react once they realise the effect of giving up hegemony over certain regions.
>>72523116
>when the central bank in Jerusalem/Washington is truly at odds with the bank of England?
>implying
>implying they don't have a plan for brexit
>implying it will loosen their grip at all
you're a naive faggot who doesn't understand the situation at all
no wonder the US is such a mess
>>72523114
I think it had to do with communist atheism from the soviet union so the religious nuts felt they had a need to get godly men in power to fight the non belivers
>>72523116
why would the international military go to war with the international bank
>>72523146
Yeah isn't there something about Islam where ever they take over its forever considered Muslim land
It's true that it doesn't make much sense for the capital of the US to be in the Middle East
>>72519900
Her skin looks like someone threw acid at it
>>72523146
>the muslims have like 20 countries....why can't they leave one little country alone?
>>cause they are muslims
Because Brits took their country and dumped millions of jews in it. Israel will forever be in existential crisis. Europe needs to carve out a land for them in their continent.
>>72519900
She's right.
>>72519900
I'm sure that the Israelis might have something a wee bit nuclear about getting kicked off of that land. People should learn about a little thing called consequences.
>>72519900
It's funny how much deep shit this has gotten Labour into.
Most Labour supporters are anti-Israel and pro-Palestine and they're being forced to defend Israel like the cucks like they are - whilst ostracising all of their own supporters.
It's hilarious.
We're going to be a conservative country for the rest of our lives.
Feels good man.
>>72523266
>I think it had to do with communist atheism from the soviet union so the religious nuts felt they had a need to get godly men in power to fight the non belivers
Sounds plausible.
>>72523409
This is why the only solution is to nuke Israel first and blame it on an obscure terrorist group.
>>72523225
Relax friend, I was only suggesting that the city of London's central banking establishment remains autonomous on the whole from the New York/Tel Aviv duopoly which also continues to seek international sovereignty to the detriment of all other autonomous actors.
Should one house ever intend to usurp another you could see a less than existential conflict between the two. My general statement more implied that antisemitism is a reserved right among the english native specifically because they inhabit the same geographical area as one of the banking capitals of the world which has no alternative to remaining enthroned where it is currently seated.
The nobility who govern the City of London cannot pick up and leave for a new made up country like the jews of New York and Israel's ancestors historically did.
>>72523528
>"""""conservative"""""
>falling for the meme that the Tories are right wing
>>72522859
Fuck you nigger.
You can shove those kikes up your mothers ass not in my land.
>>72523730
I didn't say they were right wing.
I said they were conservative.
>>72523676
The jews control the bank of England as well.
The banks are not English run.
The bankers are not patriots.
They will happily leave if given better conditions somewhere else and threaten to do so every now and then.
>>72523771
he's right though, your country is a 3rd world shithole
>>72519984
You know I honestly wouldn't be against this. Your people can actually assimilate
>>72523815
They're not.
They're The Conservative Party.
They're not conservative.
They're centrists, same as New Labour.
You're getting mugged off believing they're for the same things you are because of the name.
>>72523209
The Americans have been engaged in wars in the Middle East since 2001 and it has cost them billions of dollars and thousands of lives. There is simply no way that from this point onward anyone will be able to convince anymore voters of the importance of the allegiance with Israel when all those debts and damages are starting to come into effect now.
Even the left is willing to identify Hillary Clinton as in line with the neocons and after eight years of Barack Obama they are realizing now by looking back that he did not clear the house as much as they thought he would. Of course kicking out some general because of some sordid affair was publicly effective but in the long run Obama basically kept doing what the neocons already laid out in their Project For A New American Century. Those things are in the open now and discussed. The Saudi-Arabian alliance with Israel and the U.S. is no public favorite, the fear mongering against Iran doesn't have the same effect anymore and people like Trump are trying to back off from all this stuff and the people love it.
>>72523859
didn't the Rothschild's help set up the bank of England
>>72519900
>Random pro-Islamic and pro-Arabic shitskin is a rising star in UK party
Oh my God.
>>72523326
Most Jews are more European than sandnigger, their language which is Yiddish is considered a Germanic language. Id say give them back some Turkish lands, next to Constantinople.
>>72520919
There isn't.
>>72519900
No wonder mudslimes force them to wear burkas.
>>72523771
Isn't beheading a national pastime in your country? Fuck off pedro
>>72519984
Maybe they can fix Rhode Island.
>>72523985
you honestly think the sole cause to american wars in the ME is the israeli lobby?
>>72523896
I may be a third world country but even like that you never had one.
God has punished you to wander the earth homeless, you will never have a country and will be hated just as much as the niggers, have fun existance kike.
>>72519900
Sorry but America is for Americans
Any loyalty to another flag besides ours by a citizen is treasonous.
Not to be a dick but we know Zionism all too well.
I say, give'em Mexico.
That's a much better idea
>>72524203
Well there's also the Saudi lobby.
>>72524156
Isn't you past time prepping the bull and eating pies while shekelstein films.
Fuck you nigger
We have enough jews raping our country already.
>>72523859
>>72523997
The oligarch of the bank of England have not ever had to restablish themselves within another polity. They are a synthesis of papist mercantile interests and the First House of the Rothschilds. Unlike all of the successive houses, their reign has been uninterrupted and perpetually advanced by the geopolitical position of the british Isles within the transnational trading system.
They are far more likely to suppress intra-familial interests if it concerns foreign houses benefiting at the expense of their hereditary investiture.
>>72524342
what bulls? they're all either in jail getting shot by the police or killing each other.
>>72523997
Yes.
Your fellow countryman seems to believe we have financial and political autonomy here. I have no idea where he got that idea from.
>>72524417
ah ok fair enough I understand what you're saying now
>>72519984
Good idea, move them to Detroit or Chicago. Maybe they can spend some shekels on making it look nicer.
>>72523676
The City Of London is autonomous city state outside of British reach. They're banking efforts are also needed at the moment because their so called Eurodollar is used to ward of the Euro. The City Of London is constantly torpedoing the ECB.
I don't know why they are willing to got that far though. It's much easier for them to compete with the centrally controlled bank in Europe rather than the national banks.
>>72524203
This is the second time you post this and I can't find a post of mine where I have stated that.
>>72523326
>Europe needs to carve out a land for them in their continent.
Yeah, having Jews in Europe went so well last time.
>>72524425
Cuck.
>>72519984
Right? War until the end of times, or live in US? Then again, I suppose a lot of Jews are banking on the end of times thing?
>>72522291
>there's a difference between the two
>not just ruining foreign countries and preserving their own
>>72520824
You're a dumb nigger. Go back to fishing, ooga booga.
>>72524761
stop worrying about our sex lives and do some
REMOVE on the cartels
>>72522686
We already have enough with the jews over here
>>72519900
I'd rather have Kikes than Pakis.
It's a pointless conversation as England is on it's way to being a Caliphate.
>>72524780
>I suppose a lot of Jews are banking on the end of times thing?
These guys are usually not Zionist.
Some of them supporters Israel only for pragmatic reasons.
They believe that the true kingdom of Israel will be established only when the messiah will come.
>>72524598
>clueless hans is clueless
There is only one fiscal master of Europe, you dirty krautbag. The lower houses which are vassal to the patriarchal house maintain their franchise operations through the national banks.
See: the french rothschilds, the Neapolitan rothschilds, and of course the Austrians.
Its like asking why starbucks business model is preferable to a franchise scenario a la starbucks (proud american metaphor)
>>72525273
>says jews with actual jewish beliefs are untrustworthy because they only support Israel out of mere pragmatism, if they muster the cognitive dissonance to support it at all
What does that say about the ideological premise of Israel?
Good idea, when Trump is president we will just take Mexico and make it New Israel, hell they will probably even build a wall on the border, it's a win win all around.
>>72524881
>S-stop worrying about our sex lives and do some
Found the Cuck.
>>72524686
>There is simply no way that from this point onward anyone will be able to convince anymore voters of the importance of the allegiance with Israel when all those debts and damages are starting to come into effect now.
this strongly implies the wars were chifly to protect israeli interest rather than an american one.
>>72519984
>>72520208
Give Puerto Rico to Israel?
Solves the problem of what to do with it.
And return Israel to it's rightful claimant, the Bourbon King of Jerusalem.
>>72525467
There is also the branch of Religious Zionism (National Religious).
I talked about Haredim in my previous comment.
National religious, are less obsessed with the Messiah (compared to Haredim).
>>72525573
>born too late to be a civis in the golden age of Rome
>too soon to be a galactic knight of the first interstellar human imperium
>Born just in time to be a citizen of the Civilization to crumble under the weight of its decadent shitposting culture
I really hope america does go all out with the low quality baiting of planet earth. Our section in the history books will be entitled 'The Cancer that is killing Civilization"
>>72525785
well your wrong cuz I'm not
>>72522622
This.
Centrism is dying and for good reason.
>>72525273
>They believe that the true kingdom of Israel will be established only when the messiah will come
How retarded are Prots?
The Messiah did came, and did set up the Kingdom of Israel, with an Earthly Viceroy.
>>72525839
That is my explanation why I think it is unlikely that Israel will play a big role in the political race for anyone to score with. Do you think Americans voters will put Israel high on their list of demands when they just got their traumatized siblings back from the Middle East? The collapse of Iraq have left the Americans with no result for their efforts and instead they made it even easier for Iran to gain influence. Those are all factors that are culminating now because many Americans seem simply sick of anymore American interventionism.
>>72526084
That's a fairly evasive response. I am already aware of those subsets, but the point is your distaste for jews who object to the state establishment of Israel on religious grounds reflects the generally insincerity of your nation's fundamental premise.
What are the 'jewish' people that are served by this nation founded in their 'interest', and what makes them or this country intrinsically 'jewish'?
>>72526229
how
>>72519900
Will never happen, the argument she used is childish, ignorant and anti semetic.
>2016
>Not being able to distinguish between Leftist American/European Jews and Right-Wing Isaelis
Fucking bigots!
>>72519900
Heh, Labour eats itself as always. You forgot the Ken Livingstone thing. Same old, same old. Too many chiefs, not enough Indians. No matter how many they import.
>>72524203
The Neocons weren't strictly Israeli, but their agenda was motivated by their Jewishness and built around their vision for Israel's security in the region (which may not necessarily be the same as the Likuds or actual Israeli's vision, but you see the nexus).
>>72519900
Well I was thoroughly disappointed opening that thumbnail
>>72526380
i dont think their support for israel translates to military actions, so i dont see any conflict here.
>>72526544
i think it has more to do with securing oil production.
>>72526509
The problem is less actual Israeli's, than the Neoconservatives in the US who have a particular vision for Israel's security involving heavy US role in the region.
This is chiefly Bill Kristol and the Weekly Standard, the Jew who is organising the #NeverTrump movement to steal the nominatiom from Trump. He's the son of Irving Kristol, the orginal founder of the Neo-cons, and the current leader of them.
It's his and his fellow American Jews/neocons vision for Israel's security that are the problem, not Bibi or actual Israeli's.
>>72519900
Dat face. I see this kind of ugly fucking face every fucking day that's fucking depressing.
>>72526395
I will give myself as an example, I'm an atheist, and I believe in the moral right (although there is no such thing as moral right) of Jews on the Land of Israel.
You can be sure that the right of Jews on the Land of Israel, is grater than the right of Whites on America.
>>72526755
>i dont think their support for israel translates to military actions
And what exactly do the candidates mean when they claim that they want to keep Israel safe? What is their goal to warn from signing deals with Iran and instead taking them out now before they could get reach nuclear weapons capability? What does not translate into military about those statements?
>>72526832
If you look at the Jews pulling the strings in America you'll notice how left/progressive they are.
Look at how at odds they are with true Zionists, look at their policies and how at risk they put Israel.
Every true Israeli Zionist/conservative hates the Left-Wing Jews - they're the biggest enemies to Israel.
The last thing any true Zionist wants it multiculturalism, mass Islamic immigration to Europe and globalization - it's a huge threat to our existence.
Every race/sect has their socialist progressive, unfortunately.
>>72519900
Well the USA is already run by Jews, so this would essentially cut the problem in half. I'm all for it.
>>72520564
shut up Aquafresh, toothpaste aren't supposed to be using pooters.
>>72527065
socialist progressives want a world where we can all live together peacefully but they fuck it up by not knowing how to create the foundation for it
>>72519984
this is beyond retarded. israel is their "holy land". thats why, of all places to make israel, they chose the lifeless desert spot surrounded by muslims.
>>72524826
i've met some really cool isrealis, some of them hate american jews and are pretty conservative when it comes to politics.
>>72519900
She looks like a tranny.
>>72526989
>I believe in the moral right (although there is no such thing as moral right) of Jews on the Land of Israel.
Is this irony or sarcasm lost in translation? The founders of the United States instituted a separation of church and state specifically to resolve the contradiction of principle that you are alluding to here.
ps our natives are gone, your natives aren't going anywhere.
>>72526755
No, it's more:
>A mistaken belief that Arabs can be "liberated" and turned into liberal democracies if the US invades them or overthrows their reigmes, just like Eastern Europe did post-Communism
>And a dual-loyalty that puts (their conception of) Israel's security as important as the US's, and their idea of democratising Arabs
Neoconservatism is based on the false premise that Arabs are capable of self-rule and are civilisable in the same way Eastern Euros were post-communism. They are not. And so the projects fail at enourmous cost of US life and money, and destroy the stability of the region.
Yes, in practice that instability and emergence of Islamic governments is bad for Israel's interests too, and I don't think actual Israeli's support it that much.
Perhaps it's the Likud and co's turn to distance themselves from Bill Kristol and the Neocons? He's on the out, and Trump is on the rise. Be dumb to be caught on the losing aide.
>>72527199
The location of Israel is a geopolitical goldmine and has been since the 20th century, in case you haven't noticed.
Or did you think america is staging a multi trillion dollar occupation of the entire region despite its low agricultural value for 'spiritual' reasons as well?
>>72522291
>>72524826
>>72527224
Watch how right-wing Israelis fuck up the liberal ones when they stand on the side of the street preaching their liberal bullshit.
My brother used to love slapping them hard across the face when they'd try and give him liberal pamphlets.
>>72527333
>The founders of the United States instituted a separation of church and state specifically to resolve the contradiction of principle that you are alluding to here.
And this is why your country is going to hell (pic related).
I am against religion, but this is an effective way to keep Israel a Jewish state.
>ps our natives are gone, your natives aren't going anywhere.
Despite the fact that you murdered millions of them and you have caused the deaths of tens of millions, they have not disappeared completely.
'Morally', the land still belongs to their descendants.
>>72527806
disease killed most of them
>>72519900
Why don't the Pakis move back to fucking Pakistan then?
>>72527874
That's why I wrote:
" you murdered millions of them and you have caused the deaths of tens of millions"
>>72527065
There are a few categories:
>True left wing Jews, who want to destroy Israel too. Inside Israel they ally with Arabs inside leftist anti-Zionist parties.
>Hypocrite left wing Jews. Who want multi-culturalism in White countries, and a Jewish state in Israel. This is the majority of left wing Jews in the US, they are happy to be hypocrites and have Israel as an option to flee/emigrate too.
>Neocon Jews, Bill Kristol and co. who have quirky views on liberating Arabs that involve getting the US into pointless wars so as to make, in their minds, the middle east safer for Israel.
I agree that actual Israeli's don't share these policies as much. But for them it makes sense to keep good with both of the last two camps. They meed to make sure they don't alienate Trump or they risk him going Arabist.
I think a US under Trump that let Israel do it's thing and walked away goving it a free hand to """solve""" the Arab problem inside Israel and the territories would be a big win for Israel and a massive improvement over the US mediated Oslo peace processes that have all failed.
Trump = US walks away and Israel goes back to pre-Oslo, which means full Israeli sovereignty over all the territories, the PLO back in Tunisia (or somewhere far away), and no stageist throw your country away bullshit with Arab terrorists.
>>72527980
We could do everyone a favour and relocate Pakistan into a crater on the moon.
>>72519900
>relocate Israel into United States,” with the comment, “Problem solved.”
It's that easy huh?
![refugee_debate[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vjxI3Px.jpg "refugee_debate[1].jpg")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nus_Ghani
Search her on google images to reveal the dark secret that OP's image is actually a conservative party member.
>>72528015
are you talking about all of the Americas or just the ones in what would become united states
>>72527036
there were other means used to halt iran progression to nuclear capabilities, ofc they are now all out of the picture thanks to obama, but they shouldnt be forgotten.
the assisnations were another instrument used.
there is also military aid and the support at the UN which shouldnt be overlooked.
meaning well for israel can take many forms, most of which align pretty well with the US interterst.
>>72527429
well in hindsight that was a misscalculation. obama cedeing iraq to iran influence convince me its more about keeping the oil flowing than anything else.
not going as far as wanting daesh to win, but keeping iran and its allies on their toes is favorable i think.
bibi's patron is sheldon adelson, and it effects his policy.
>>72527486
off the top of my head some oil and a foothold ally state in the middle east. its a ridiculous proposition to just move israel somewhere else when its geographic location is of religious importance in a country full of jews.
>>72528082
how has Oslo failed and isn't the PLO pretty corrupt and falling apart after their leader died Vice did a piece on the Palestinians and many the younger generation think their leader is a corrupt buffoon and just go around rioting
>>72528082
I'm actually for Trump regardless of how ambiguous he may come across with some of his policies.
He relates more to Israel than he does to any Arab state - he's a businessman and Israel is good business.
>Trump = US walks away and Israel goes back to pre-Oslo, which means full Israeli sovereignty over all the territories, the PLO back in Tunisia (or somewhere far away), and no stageist throw your country away bullshit with Arab terrorists.
100% agree with this.
I think that Trump and Putin, of late, are probably the only two people capable of restoring some peace in the region, funnily enough.
>>72519900
Lady has a strong jaw,now we know why they wear burkas
>>72527806
What is the actual demographic breakdown of Israel if you count all of the non-citizen palestinians?
Whites have rights in america because they are not predicated on the existence of a de jure occupation of the constitutional forms of rulership.
Whites in israel literally must remain loyal to rabbinical ideology of state religion to sustain the epistemology of their claims to 'rights' of any kind within their country.
Protip: it is constitutionally established by the supreme court of Israel that 'israeli' nationality is legally fictitious. I.e. nobody born in Israel, jewish or otherwise, has a jus sanguinis claim to their status and rights in opposition to the Israeli state apparatus.
Your supreme court DENIES that your native rights supersede the authority of the state apparatus sovereignty over its subjects. Your legal condition is *dependent* on the state and its self-interested function, not the other way around.
>>72528314
maybe it shouldn't exist at all.
Religious states are antithetical to everything that western civilization stands for, both classically and since the enlightenment.
>>72523326
uhhh, I think there might have been a few Jews in Israel a few centuries ago
Send them to St. Pierre and Miquelon. They'll be fine there.
>>72524240
why are you posting, ya greasy beaner?
get to work on the wall
Poo in the loo
>>72528744
I agree that they shouldn't exist - but while the middle east is made up of only Islamic states then Israel has to keep itself as is.
It's pretty simple, Israelis honestly just want their own land - that's it - nothing more.
Fuck Soros and the back-stabbing Jews that are traitors.
Either you're a Zionist or not - don't give a shit if you're Jewish or not.
>>72528288
Lol everything about this post is the epitome of happy merchant kikery. Fucked up to consider how little caricature is involved with the self-interest of Israel.
>not going as far as wanting daesh to win, but keeping iran and its allies on their toes is favorable i think.
Its actually a thought crime to suggest that you would be capable of this caliber of jewishness in most polite conversation in the United States. Even suggesting that this is the part of an Israeli geopolitical strategy or even worse the democratic sentiment of israelis would be considered antisemitism in america.
>>72529137
it is sad when real politics is considered taboo.
are we supposed to not learn from experience?
when iraq fell iran became stronger. iran and saudia strugle for influence allows for warming up of relations.
if trying to look at the bigger picture is "kikery" now, then i guess i am that.
>>72519900
>“Solution for Israel-Palestine conflict — relocate Israel into United States,” with the comment, “Problem solved.”
I dont see any problem. There are more jews in US than in Israel anyway
>People still don't vote Labour.
First our glorious supreme comrade Corbyn and now this?
Best time for the British left since Thatcher ruined it all.
>>72522291
Israel is gay as fuck.
Tel Aviv has one of the largest gay parades
>>72520824
>The Middle East will becomes uninhabitable once Pakistan or any other terrorist tries to get their hands on nukes
Lad, I..
>>72519900
THIS
usa is kike land let them live in the same place they shit
>>72519900
>implying it isn't already there
>>72519900
How about we relocate Israel into the UK.
You're the cucks who sold the land to the Rothschilds anyways.
>>72529678
Can you explain why hampering the development of a more prosperous and regionally influential Iran is so critical to the continued existence of Israel that it justifies supporting ISIS, either materially or by de facto neutrality agreement?
What is so harmful about the Iranian people that preventing their economic betterment justifies mass exterminations of the neighboring populations sharing your borders?
>>72519900
>>relocate Israel into United States
>>relocate pakis to pakistan
sounds good
Our political parties fall over themselves to fight anti-semitism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEW6fcS2gOU
Here's a decent interview with one of the Labour MPs who happily sits through the anti-anti-semite purposeful misunderstandings
Jonn Mann makes an appearance. Known for his beef with Mr. Anglin over at the DailyStormer.
It's sad to see. Livingstone just states a fact, and the media acts as if he is a Hitler cheer-leader.
>>72529846
Right one to speak - you're also full of trannies parading around.
Every time I'm in the mood for tranny porn they're almost always from Brazil, faggot.
I've got a better idea.
Why not have all Israelites push their leaders into bombing the sandniggers while taking some of our money under the table? We get no blame, they get land and some financial compensation for doing what we both want done. Relocate UK, Germany, Netherland mudslimes to the bombed land with some bottles of water and seeds to farm.
Wham, bam, that you Uncle Sam.
>>72530229
Pakistan is the rightful land of India.
Pakis should be relocated to England tbqhwyf.
>>72530315
You have any source or it's just memes?
>>72530325
>Why not have all Israelites push their leaders into bombing the sandniggers while taking some of our money under the table?
That's basically been every western power's policy when it comes to Israel from day 1.
>>72530307
Notice how in his stride Livingstone takes it. He knows that he is subject of an attack to smear him. He knows all his Labour buddies are just acting offended. He just sits through it.
Respect for how he handled this, very calm.
>>72520573
If the burger knew just a little geography he would know that a typical Israeli landscape isn't all that different from Death Valley.
>>72530315
Type tranny porn and almost 80% of them are from Brazil :^)
>>72520991
Fuck you, the Italians here are doing our best to keep them at bay on LI. Though, Brooklyn is indeed lost.
>>72519984
God no. Just stay where you are. NYC is already like little Israel as is.
>>72530159
i think you overstate the significance of isis.
sure they make nifty videos with creative executions, but how important are they really?
how much land do they control? fertile land that is. how many men do they have? how well do they govern?
if you look at it at this perspective, you might also come to the conclusion their role has been blown out of all proportions.
i dont think it has anything to do with the "iranian people" so to speak. but my understanding is that they seek the undoing of my country, and seeing how keen they are to meddle in every conflict in the middle east, from yemen througgh gaza to lebanon and syria, i think any obstcle they meet should be considered a boon as far as im concerned.
>>72519900
>relocate Israel into United States
Looks like the day of the rope came early. We'll start with that shitskin, then her people.
>>72524203
Its the only reason. If it was for oil we would be down in Venezuela not in the middle east.
>>72519900
why not just bomb all of the africa and middle east after stealing their natural resources?
>>72524111
/thread
>>72526099
Are you kidding me, is solves all the problems we are facing, no more illegals crossing the border, muslims will not be pissed off at the west anymore and will have no reason to immigrate anymore, manufacturing jobs will return to the US. Trump could bring peace to the planet with one little action.
Bonus we get all those hot Israeli women in North America.
>>72530777
Shutup grease-ball - there was a time when you, the Irish and the Jews got along just fine there.
Look at how quickly the cities developed when you all banded together.
Even the Jewish and Italian mafia worked together, successfully, for many years.
Meyer Lansky and Lucky Luciano :^)
>>72530880
This is some real Jew end-justifies-means stuff right here lads.
>>72519900
Seems like a good idea -> only 1 country to nuke
>>72519984
Even Schlomo gets it
>>72522682
They're not old stats. The image is "what could have been" alt history had it become the Jewish homeland instead of Israel. But Jews given the choice of being given something freely or having it stolen for them will always choose the latter due to their sociopathic tendencies.
>>72519984
Israelis are redpilled only because they deal with Muslims on a daily basis. American jews are cancerous as fuck, the izzies would most likely become that.
Pic related to the typical jew I've had to do business with.
![1920px-Oil_Reserves_Top_5_Countries[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/KdGGTIX.png "1920px-Oil_Reserves_Top_5_Countries[1].png")
>>72531037
back in the day no one knew they had so much oil.
>>72531190
i hear there are millions dying in african wars right now. i guess you are pushing for intervention there as well?
>>72529741
The Jews are (rightly) a bit sensitive about the words "solution" and "relocate" being used in a sentence about them.
>>72519900
We could just put it in Wyoming or something
>>72519984
on one hand they're jews, on the other they hate muslims and are right wing
touch choice
>>72530880
I didn't suggest ISIS was internationally influential, only that their continued success perpetuates pointless slaughter and mayhem. They truly are inconsequential in terms of constructing any sort of 'establishment'. No different to the death squads operating in South American banana republics during the 1980s.
You have to realize that, realistically, given US approval is essential to Iran's continued integration into the global market, their government staging a legitimate attempt to 'undo' israel is a delusional nightmare fantasy right? Its just an improbable outcome on any timescale that would warrant actively encouraging the ACTUAL undoing of neighboring states and mass death for their populations.
Do you consider that if other countries took the same stance as you on what sort of immanent threats justify the strategy you yourself are in favor of then multiple countries would already be acting to encourage organized sectarian violence and the destruction of the Israeli state from within to protect themselves?
Is paranoia your rationale? 'because I view this as the surest rational action, all other countries must be committing similar resources to developing comparable mechanisms for insurrection against me as I am wielding against them"?
>>72531580
they hate ALL goyem not only just muzzies.
>>72519900
A Jewish dog biting its owner's hand, how delicious. Keep her in the party bongs.
>>72520824
>once Pakistan or any other terrorist tries to get their hands on nukes,
pakistans had them for a while
>>72519900
Why not relocate Israel to Britain? Britain created the Palestinian Mandate to begin with.
>>72528288
I have to disagree with you. There is no interest of the American people that has been met in the Middle East. The U.S. have been fighting a war for over a decade now and what have they to show for? A bunch of failed states and new terror cells thanks due their intervention. The ones that actually profited from this development is the state of Israel that now has some less hostile regimes as neighbor and weakened competitors except for the final domino of Iran. All the while the depth for these military operations is now beginning to weigh in on the American public and their children are coming home traumatized and handicapped.
It is hard to find an interest for the American citizens within this calculation when not even the government themselves seems to be able to profit from its allegiance with Israel. America is not buying oil from Israel but from the Saudis and the Emirates and it doesn't use Israel as its military hub but its bases in Germany, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. In the meantime the U.S. still is the highest contributor in foreign aid to Israel which over the decades led to the conclusion that Israel and America are on and the same and therefore made Americans out to be valuable targets for the enemies of Israel.
The assassinations of Iranian scientists are not talking points of the American politicians when they label Iran as threat that has to be dealt with rather than negotiated with. Ted Cruz and Rick Santorum might say that because of their religious voting base, but that excuse doesn't carry over for people like Newt Gingrich or Mike Huckabee. The assassinations were actions by the Israeli government but these people have tried time and time again for a forceful regime change.
We have already seen this played out in 2012 when Ron Paul said that Iran was no threat to either America or Israel. He first was deemed an Anti-Semite, then they dragged out some strange newsletters and as that all crumbled he declared simply anti-Israel.
>>72531585
first, iranian influence is not some abstract concept for me. every missile shot by hezbulla was supplied by the iranians. every paycheck, every bullet. iranian backed ageression against israel isnt improbabale, it has and will happen. the fighting in syria kept them from looking to stir things with israel.
second , my stance is to sit and do nothing.
my stance is to sit and do nothing. i dont try to "fix" the ME. it cannot be done. i try to get by.
>>72519900
>Some hepcats are demanding for her to be expelled from the party.
I am fine with that, I dont want israel in the united states.
this is hysterically funny tbqh, and a win win situation
Labour look like bigots
Ken loses his job
and if it turns out that Ken can prove his claims then Israel flips out
everyones a winner
>>72531585
> their government staging a legitimate attempt to 'undo' israel is a delusional nightmare fantasy right?
Iran attacking Israel as it exists now seems silly. Israel staging a take over of Greater Israel during a chaotic civil war in Europe not so much. They already ethnically cleansed the Golan Height with minimum pushback from the US.
Having a Nuclear Iran on the border during such a war, partly fought against Shiite's would be a problem ... far more than Arab conventional firepower.
>>72530880
Unfortunately, all they actually need to do is make execution videos using the same creative theatrical tricks Hollywood has used to take control of Western Civilization.
Basically, Westerners can be controlled by propaganda, socialists (including leftist Jews, the ones that now call Israel "The Zionazi State") have taken it over, and now ISIS is mounting the first challenge that will result in them either usurping that control, or destroying it so neither Hollywood nor ISIS can control the American people.
And the latter is what Hollywood fears more than the former, and that's why they consider Trump more dangerous than ISIS.
>>72532350
i seem to have lost the thread of the conversation.
my last ost had to do with non military actions available to the US, not talking point for republican debate.
i agree that the us plans for iraq and afganistan didnt turn out well, but that doesnt mean they were originially carried out for israel.
for isntance, israel benefits greatly from the current political situation in egypt, even though the us was reluctant to recognize sisi's rule.
israel had no benefit from the war in afganistan whatsoever. as for iraq, bibi famously supported this war, but i dont see how it helped israels situation in a way that could have been anticipated. i dont see the war in syria as strongly related to the toppling of saddam.
about ron paul, the repulican establishment would have wnt against him no matter what he said, it has to do more with politics than idiology.
>>72532496
Or perhaps a crucial inhibitor to that greater israel plot, which is desperately lacking right now?
>>72532373
I'm just trying to get you to address that the destruction of a nation like Syria merely for the purpose of 'distracting' Iran from selling hezbollah overpowered chinese fireworks to impotently shoot at you would be more than enough justification for Iran to actually outright seek your immediate destruction based on your own metric.
If they were doing to you what you are encouraging for Syria Israel would have already had nukes in the air heading their way. You see that don't you?
>>72533101
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>>72519900
>relocate Israel into United States
I swear I saw it on a tv show, can't recall which one but it was really shit.
We need the babyboomer northerner voters to die off/get disillusioned with labour a.s.a.p.
>Mah' coal mines
>>72520208
You faggots are the ones who gave them Israel if anyone should take them it's you faggots
>>72519984
This, just relocate it to new york and rename it to jew york
>>72533452
saying you are ok with two groups fighting bitterly is justification for one of the group to seek your distruction? i cant say i agree with this logic.
iranian also supplied palestinian groups since at least 2002
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karine_A_Affair
>>72530315
>Every time I'm in the mood for tranny porn
>>72533565
I wish it was. It's not a conspiracy, it's a revolution, and like the Bolshevik Revolution, it's all predicated on a lie that modern con artists have perfected, to the point that it appears to be reality until after millions have died, not just in the "revolution" but also in the totalitarian state the revolution creates.
>>72534125
ISIS isn't an independent belligerent, it is an invention of the military industrial complex's black budget.
We already established that. Don't jew me down here Moishe.
>>72528389
Pre-Oslo:
>PLO far away in Tunisia
>Territories under full political and millitart control of Israel
>Territory Arabs economically intergrated with Israel (maybe bad)
Post-Oslo:
>Invite PLO next door
>Cede political and millitary control of territory to PLO
>PLO supposed to police their own, so Israel doesn't
>PLO use Oslo as a base to launch intifada and jihad
>PLO can't police their own, Hamas take over and are worse terrorists than PLO
>Hamas launch continual jihad. First suicide bombs, then rockets, then tunnel infiltrations, now knives.
>No prospect of peace with Arabs (because they are Arabs & Muslims)
>Oslo just gave terrorists a base, power, territory and source of income to wage war in a better position than pre-Oslo. Also handing over security responsibilites to the PLO instead of doing it yourself (save shekels) lead to the rise and take over by worse enemy Hamas
Only solution is no Arabs & no Muslims in the same territory as Jews. Israel only works because the Arabs left and/or were cleared. Peace will only come when they finish the job. Arabs on one side of the Jordan River (aka Kingdom of Jordan), Jews separate on the other. Two ethnically pure seperate states with a natural border.
>>72533448
The point is that the support American politicians claim for Israel is admits the development of the last years no longer feasible. The American intervention in the Middle East has been one failure after another one and the public seems to be getting tired of it enough already. None of those political candidates would dare cut support in from of foreign aid, but the outlook of unconditional military support is not resonating well with the public. You get Donald Trump pledging support but stating that they can't put on airs any longer about the long time strategy for Israel because the idly stood by too long. The same came from Bernie Sanders who also stressed that the Palestinians have to be heard since Israel has gone too far in instances. Those are both huge shifts in political statements by candidates for the presidency and it seems to be picking up quite well with the general public.
The problem from here on out lies in the hands of the Israel lobby. They have been very aggressive over the last years and I think in case of Barack Obama they simply overplayed their hand. He was very reasonable about the Iran deal when he explained that he would want the same thing if he were in Iran's position and it stoked every last qualms about the possibility to open another battlefield for the Americans.
We'll have to see how Hillary will handle the Israel question. Large parts of her party are very unsatisfied with her track record when it comes to conflicts. Of course the neocons are exactly the opposite.
