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Why do people become liberals?
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Why do people become liberals?
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>>72501870
They're like the Borg but faggoty and gay.
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>>72501870

Because i'll flip that skirt over and give that dog a bone
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>>72501870
white guys - for the girls
white girls - for the BBC

its a continuation of the Sexual Revolution
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>>72501870
Because they've been brainwashed by capitalist propaganda to stifle true class-consciousness.
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>>72501870
Indoctrination. Everybody wants to fit in and the social hierarchy is poz loads right now.
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>>72501870
They're smart
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>>72501870
People like playing the victim rather than holding themselves accountable for their actions. It is fitting for people incapable of using any faculty of reason and have the mind of children
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>>72501870

Feels Good.

Like being religious.

Reality is shit and unpleasant.
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>>72501870
Sauce? Id love to liberate her of her sanity
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A warped combination of a desire to help others (but no desire to sacrifice). A desire to critique but cannot bear to be critiqued. A desire to control others but resents others imposing their ideas themselves.

It's like people who think they're "worldly" because they've gone to tourist hotpots, gotten drunk and fucked somebody.
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>>72501870
Too much schooling, thinking and reading
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>>72501870
so they can write this gems
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>>72501870
>become
Most start out, and don't move on from there.
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>>72502095
Molly sounds like a well adjusted individual
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>>72501870
>Google search
>femboy sissy
NOPE
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>>72501994
Its because of the single moms. You dads broke their nuts on your mom then ran away from her filled belly fearing favourable divorces for the woman.

Its the single moms who are honey voters and the liberals love giving them handouts while we degenerate some more. Soon men will satisfy their sexual urges on goats.
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>>72502174
>not wanted feminine penis
>being a faggot
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They experience the world outside of some privileged little bubble and become educated :^)
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>>72501870

Makes them feel good to think the world is all rainbows and butterflies, they don't realise they have it so good thanks to some hardass making hard decisions somewhere further up the chain.
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As a child I indulged in Utopian nonsense.

Leftwing cuck-politics should be acceptable to age 20, then if you still want a world of open borders and gibesmedats, you get deported to Zimbabwe and your property is seized and put into a "victims of leftwing ideologies" fund.
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Because were drunk lol
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>>72502206
>The fact that single-moms aren't treated like dirt is the reason the left is clearly correct about everything.

This is what misogynists actually believe.
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>>72501870
Jewish-controlled media. Are you new here?
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>>72502095
>This article was likey written by someone with a 4 year degree in creative writing or English
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>>72502082
>her
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>>72502249
>wanting feminine penis
>"I'm not a faggot"
Ok m80.
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>>72501870
because it frees them of responsibility & it's "easy". they don't ever have to develop character, it's so hedonistic & selfish of them.
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>>72502095

>Baby men shriek into the void
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>>72502206
>t. Leaf cuck attempting to sound like a stormfag
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>>72502272
Same here, the mass liberalism in NZ makes it hard to see the truth
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>>72501870
moral self exculpation

people want to feel like they have a higher sense of ethics without doing anything, so they hold on to touted truisms without having done anything to deserve such piety.
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>>72501870
They think that saying the names of good things is enough.

They don't understand that it's more important to preserve the good pockets of the world than to throw the whole world into the mud in the name of "fairness".

Honestly I think most liberals have a noble end-goal, they just haven't thought anything through.
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>>72501870

They become liberals for almost the same reason worldwide

>entitled without actually doing anything
>can't find a real job
>think others should pay for their endervors
>loves being told what to do
>think they are being oppressed in some imaginary way
>have solutions to problems that don't exist
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>>72501870
Because of feels and indoctrination. I was liberal when I only watched the MSM and thought lefty policies would help the poor or marginalized. Then I looked into it and saw the left as the circle jerk it is, and how all their efforts to help poor people are ineffective handouts that increase poverty. What really got me redpilled fast was seeing how new issues get made out of thin air by the left so they could be the solution to the problem they made up.
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>>72502340
>its not gay if you only do it a few times
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Because they all got something to prove.
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>>72501870
All children are liberals.
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Because liberalism makes sense until you figure out people are assholes.
Than you understand the need to limit freedom and compassion.
Some people take it the wrong way as take away that being an asshole is the right way to be.
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>>72502547
sounds like /pol/
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Because we want to fucj boypuccin lel
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>>72501870
the jews want to see gay interracial relationships.
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>>72501870
Not enough brushing.
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>>72502440
Bitch please. Why would I want to sound like them?
My tune is so much sweeter. Its like listening to walt bismarck while playing an all white videogame.
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCLziPZRfH3CZEozrVBo7BKw
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>it's trendy to be liberal right now ...like getting a tattoo that you will eventually regret...trends tend to to have a short life span.....lets hope this trend end soon.
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>>72501870
>>>72501870
>the jews want to see gay interracial relationships.
Thats the multiculturalists. Some of whome happen to be jews. Some funded by elders of zion.
But yeh. Lets pinkwash tel aviv.
As for those exotic foreign fags, as long as theyre an uncircumcised gentile its good.
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To get back at daddy.
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>>72502510
I just want to add: I think the #1 flaw of liberals is that they think the pleasant world they see around them is natural.

They haven't thought about how many ways things could go wrong, how we live on a wonderful knife-edge of civilisation that we spend thousands of years getting on top of.

When people argue against free speech and stuff like that, they're not just "loser kids". If there are enough of those people, you'll live in a horrible country. That's all it takes.
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>>72502565
>implying doing it even once doesn't make you at least bi
Not falling for it Satan.
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>>72502626
You gonna back up that claim with some evidence?
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>>72501870
Youth starts out liberal because liberalism appeals to freedom. People in their teens are driven to seek outlets that represent a growing independence from their parents and liberalism tends to cater to that.

Then at some point you get older and begin to realize that liberalism isn't nearly as "free" as you thought it was and begin to fall more moderate or perhaps move towards the right.
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>>72501870
Is quite interesting. This is a generation that was born in really comfortable time. Small wars, a recession without the same consequences that the depression before WWII, most civil right fights had been fought and no visible enemy after the fall of Soviet Union. So what they have left? They start to pick smalls problems, and if that doesn't work?: Invent the problems AND the enemy. What is then result of that? A guy that fights not against the things they "defend", but fights against them for being so obnoxious: Donald Trump.
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>>72501870
Compassion / lack of critical thinking. Basically someone presents a case for inequality, and prove it exists. This triggers a person to feel sorry for the non-whites. The lack of critical thinking precludes their ability to see that the true reasons for the inequality are derived from the inequality inherent in all humans.

Basically, most young people start out Liberal, and then grow out of it through life experience.
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>>72501870
They failed the expectations of the tribe.

Instead of bettering themselves, they blame the tribe for hurting their ego and actively try to destroy the tribe.
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>>72503291
They are Critical. Its called critical thoery developed by the cultural marxists to destory patriarchy, race, repressed sexuality, the middle class, language(weaponized language), and nationalism. Aka cult of cultural marxism
Guess whos the ring leader...?
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>>72503468

critical theory isn't critical thinking, it's the idea that "humanity is enslaved by it's culture" and that removing culture will free humanity.
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>>72501870
it's a boipucci right?
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>>72501870
Desire for outcomes. Liberals say "Everyone should have adequate healthcare!" Conservatives agree! We want everyone to have adequate healthcare. But we want it in a context that won't bankrupt the country or ruin the healthcare system. Liberals just decide to harness state power to try to make it happen.
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>>72501972
>BBC

I can't believe this meme is still going.
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>>72501870
I think a lot of it is correlated with brain structure which, more likely than not, can be attributed to genetic, I think conservatives have a larger, more active amigdala(I remember reading this somewhere) which inclines them more to traditionalism, while liberals are generally more accepting of new ideas and less inclined to give into group think.

I think the amount of true liberals is roughly 20% and in the US they are more left-leaning than not, but even in the US you may find liberals that lean to the right.

here in ukraine liberals generally lean more right than conservatives(though the conservatives are rather racist) on economic issues.

I think there may be a correlation between being smart and being liberal; but I think the opposite is more true: strong conservatives generally have a lesser intelligence than average.
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>>72501870
http://www.amazon.com/Righteous-Mind-Divided-Politics-Religion/dp/0307455777
If you really want to know. Desire of equal outcome, not fairness depending on labour input. Openness to new experiences. Some others
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>>72503701
This. Liberals care more about overall fairness than wellbeing of their own close group (family).
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>>72503648
>But we want it in a context that won't bankrupt the country or ruin the healthcare system.
then why do you oppose public health care when it just works better everywhere
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>>72504313
conservatives can be inclined to care about overall fairness if society is structured in a way that cares for ill begotten people. I think the sjw movement that the west is experiencing can be surmised as being exactly that.

I think someone should make a study of sjws in order to determine the validity of this assessment.
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>>72501870
>>>72501870
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>here in ukraine liberals generally lean more right than conservatives(though the conservatives are rather racist) on economic issues.
No kidding they're literally fascists.. or should I say Banderas. Have those liberal conservatives taken Donetsk yet? All i see is grenades being thrown outside parlaiment in kiev and fist fights in your parlaiment. You guys dont have liberal or conservative you have secret police, warlords, oligarchs and anarchy.
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>>72504737
Because it doesn't, monopolies are terrible at serving their customers.
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>>72501870
Weak upbringing.
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>>72502174
like you wouldn't still hit it cunt.
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>>72502807
dangerous fucking trend this one
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>>72502095
http://fusion.net/story/276398/ghostbusters-trailer-backlash-sexist-comments/
I doubled check if it's fake, it's not...
>Some people whatever. But baby-men, they no like.
>Baby-men hate, because movie make baby-men mad.
>Baby-men bang head against keyboard
>Baby-men put mad baby-words on internet.
>Baby-men shriek into void.
"Molly Fitzpatrick" sounds like a 5 year old.
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>>72504782
I suggest you look up the terms liberal and conservative, if you do you would see that the definitions do not necessarily confine one to any specific political movement. and while we do have fascists in ukraine, they are less numerous than european movements, both absolutely and relativity.
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>>72504737
Holy shit, I don`t want to hear a shit about a public healthcare working from a czech. Holy shit, how many times I didn`t pick up the pills simply because the supplementary charge just was just too high. All those cashiers who sit behind the register with 39C fewers and cough at everyonejust because they can`t afford to lose three days of wages, despite paying for healthcare etc.
Works better everywhere, fucking hell....
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>>72501870
They feel guilty for something they didn't do.

Liberalism is a side effect of xtianity
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To be a conservative you have to accept that:

1. the world/nature is unfair
2. the world/nature is dangerous

liberals prefer to bury their heads in the sand and think the world is sunshine and lollipops. I'm sure it's comforting to think the world is this lovely happy place and that we're heading towards this fantastic future all holding hands and shit.

The cold hard truth is going to bite them back one day.
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>>72501870
Your liberals are fucked up but here's a good reason why I'm for socialist policies. I know how cruel life can be.

I've experienced a lot of shit far beyond what you fucking neckbeards can imagine and I don't want that for anyone else to experience. You will probably laugh this off or call me edgy or whatever.

But remember these words, you will discover the meaning some day. Because it can't be sunny all the time anon. We will all face judgement, just pray it will be near the end of your life instead of the beginning.
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>>72505272
it will be funny seeing that movie fail and watching sjws scream sexism or some shit like that. I am honestly giddy from just thinking about it.
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This seems like an appropriate thread to ask this: It's posted here a lot.

Does anyone here have that gif/webm some teens in high school, where this girl kisses one guy (maybe her boyfriend) while this other guy watches and then after she's finished kissing her bf goodbye she holds hands with this other ("cuck") guy and they walk off together?
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>>72501870
Some people are just born retarded bro.
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>>72501870
They become educated, or stop hanging around meth smoking hillbillies and their meth shacks.
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>>72505835
I identify as a liberal and I accept those conditions as valid.

I adopt a certain pragmatism when it comes to assessing any new idea, and if I am wrong I have no problem ridding myself of old beliefs.
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>>72504923
I've already had this conversation.
No. I. Would. Not.
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>>72505848

nanny stating and trying to make life "fair" through government intervention and economic redistribution is the wrong response to the cruelty of life.

Back in the day before welfare states and government bans of sugar existed you know how people got through shit? personal responsibility. community. family. church.

>"It is the common doom of man that he must eat his bread by the sweat of his brow, that is, by the sweat of his body, or the sweat of his mind. If this toil was inflicted as a curse, it is as might be expected from the curses of the Father of all Blessings--it is tempered with many alleviations, many comforts. Every attempt to fly from it, and to refuse the very terms of our existence, becomes much more truly a curse, and heavier pains and penalties fall upon those who would elude the tasks which are put upon them by the great Master Workman of the World... I do not call a healthy young man, chearful in his mind, and vigorous in his arms—I cannot call such a man, poor; I cannot pity my kind as a kind, merely because they are men. This affected pity only tends to dissatisfy them with their condition, and to teach them to seek resources where no resources are to be found—in something else than their own industry, and frugality, and sobriety. Whatever may be the intention (which, because I do not know, I cannot dispute) of those who would discontent mankind by this strange pity, they act towards us, in the consequences, as if they were our worst enemies.

Edmund Burke

tl;dr: if you want to artificially make life "fair" YOU ARE AT WAR WITH NATURE
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>>72501994
>this is what people have actually believed for decades

jesus christ
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>>72505970
Pls someone
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>>72501870
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
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https://www.change.org/p/doj-indict-hillary-clinton?recruiter=532278470&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

SIGN THE PETITION!!!!!
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>>72501870
social mobility.
without liberalism/leftist ideology a farmer's son becomes a farmer, a king's son becomes king and that of a slave's slave. people revolted against that vicious cycle centuries ago. educate yourself ffs
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A lawyer is somebody who knows law.

A doctor is somebody who knows medicine.

A liberal is somebody who knows economics.
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>>72506163

so you accept the inequality of human nature? the biological reality of sex and race? the unlimited right to self-defense?

because most liberals do not.
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>>72505897
And it's gonna fail, hard
The original movie was successful not because of the plot, theme or styling, but because of the cast. Bill Murray is riot, as were the rest of the cast. It was hilarious to watch him do anything, even chase ghosts around and make jokes about piss streams
Not only is this movie just copying parts of the old movie THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HUMOR AND THEREFORE THE SUCCESS, but they're actively eliminating what made that movie. It's now cast by a bunch of literally who women, when half the fun was dudes being dudes. It's not gonna push any boundaries, or be off the cuff, it's gonna be the same bullshit PC friendly "humor" we've all heard a million times before.
Bill Murray is why we remember ghostbusters at all, a corporate executive sitting down and looking and high grossing movies of the past and shoveling it off to be remade in the "safest" less offensive way is why no one is going to give a fuck about the new one.
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>>72501994

This

Liberals are the weak and stupid people in this society. They just don't know it.

Darwin will take care of them eventually.
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>>72505970
>>72505970
>>72505970
i want to spend the rest of my life eating her asshole
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>>72506223
m8..

c'mon. no need to lie on an anonymous Himalayan basket weaving forum
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>>72501870
they go to university, and forget that nothing is free

then they get jobs out of industry and forget how workers live and the struggles they face

then they start seeing only the wealthy well educated minorities, and forget the real effect they have on society

they start blocking out things they don't want to hear, and people they don't want to listen to; and end up in a brainwashing hugbox

as they become further and further from the norm, they start trying to force people to agree with them
buisiness boycots, protests, attacking individuals on a personal level
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>>72505970
>those legs
HNGGGGG
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>>72506855
Ikr

>>72505970
STILL LOOKING FOR THE GIF/WEBM
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>>72505970
>>72506855
>>72506784
almost average for sydney
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>>72501870
emotion, osmosis, and associative peer pressure

liberalism is basically the pubescent teenage angst phase of politics

that's why their group think and cognitive dissonance is so strong - it's like a high school clique
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>>72506928
>wearehairy.com
No.
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Easy. The desire to be associated with the 'noble' cause of equality for all and helping their fellow humans. But without having to lift a finger to accomplish any of those goals. Your modern liberal enjoys ranting on twitter and protesting outside them evil banks but will do nothing constructive. How many of those occupy wall street fuckwits actually wrote to their governor or senator, not many I'd bet. They'll rage about homelessness on their blog but you'll never see these fuckers volunteering at the homeless shelter. I work at a homeless shelter, I've never seen one of these virtue signalling arseholes walk in our door, just christians and old people. The modern liberal is the worst kind of shallow, self-serving hypocrite. Feeding their ego off the back of human suffering. I'm not sure who's worse, the people causing the suffering or the liberals using it to get likes on facebook.
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>>72506928
>wearehairy.com

Why God why?
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>>72506485
>so you accept the inequality of human nature?
yes
>the biological reality of sex and race?
yes
> the unlimited right to self-defense?
one can pretend to have this 'right', I am one who believes there are no such thing as rights.

I only except one universal law when it comes to humans and other sentient beings: it is the most powerful who has the last say, or in other words might makes right.
>>72506583
I do not even remember the original. I just have a longing of reveling in their misfortune.
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>>72505970
Stop this noncery.
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>>72501870
>Why do people become liberals?
Behavioral sink
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>>72506977

on that same vein, always makes me laugh when laurie penny got called out for refusing to do a debate because they didn't pay her enough.

I can't even imagine what the bubble these people live in is like.
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>>72506928
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>>72507133
white boy letting his white sceney gf be kissed by an asian girl...
what's so weird about this?
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>>72507231
The Asian isn't a girl.
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>>72507231
Was for
>>72506928
>>72506308
>>72505970
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>>72501870
Because they think they are the wrong gender
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two reasons why white liberals exist:

1. sanctimony. "look at how good of a person i am!"

2. cuckoldry. they enjoy self-loathing and going against their best interests.
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>>72507133
Thanks lad.

>>72506985
>>72506973
YES
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>>72507133
Looks more like a "progressive" relationship than the guy being a cuck. They probably both fuck and share her.
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>>72501870
People are indoctrinated from birth into a system that rewards being one. Educational and media institutions bombard a child almost from birth with liberal ideals and reinforce their continued compliance with social rewards. It's only after they're finally adults that they join the machine that created them in order to keep the cycle going or life shits on them hard enough it breaks the years of conditioning. Some of them can't deal with it and just want the world to be the way it was before and become conservatives. Others start using their heads for the first time and end up places like this. Nothing more than containment for madness.

Any way you look at it we're fucked.
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>>72501870
they dont become liberals,

Everyone becomes more conservative as they age,

"Not to be a republican at 20 is proof of want of heart; to be one at 30 is proof of want of head" -François Guizot

Its just brain chemistry, you have no control over your beliefs, your at the mercy of the ether.
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>>72501870
>he asked /pol/
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>>72507414
on sanctimony: usually said individuals adopt a label that can identify them as being a 'good person', such people will not identify by the term liberal for it has been rather tarnished by the US right wing. but I say this whole 'progressive' bunch can certainly be said to be sanctimonious.
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>>72501870

Please don't trigger me with sexy pics of underage girls.
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>>72508078
hehe except it is a conservative mindset that makes one more prone to being indoctrinated.
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>>72508221
>girls
anon...
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>>72502084
>It's like people who think they're "worldly" because they've gone to tourist hotpots, gotten drunk and fucked somebody.

I hate these people with a passion. To the point I consider any non-hardcore "traveler" as a faggot/bitch.
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>>72502253
Lol isn't that how people become conservative? They see how rampant degeneracy and self destructive behaviors existed to keep the fucking idiots in line
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>>72504737
Lived in both France and England. Public healthcare is shit.

Now that it has been around for some time it's been proven that you pay way more than what you consume on average. It's actually mind blowing how much waste and retardness there is. I don't know why government is even allowed near money.

Thanks to the EU, in a very rare instance of uncuckness, it is now possible in Europe to avoid this public healthcare and I'm all the better for it.

It's a bureaucratic nightmare to get out of social security but it's one of the best decisions in my life.
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I'm not a sociopath. Fascism is good until you're the one being killed. I'm really surprised how many people fall for being brow-beaten out of their believes because fascists keep trying to push the failed 100 year old liberalism is communism meme. Oh no the nasty mans on the internet are saying mean things, time to abandon my personal experiences for internet memes!!
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>>72501870
But I already fapped to traps today?
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>>72508135
The most accurate answer.

Young conservatives are either just as brainwashed by family, or have particularly strong biological tendencies toward it.

The rest of humanity starts soft-brained. The softness brought on by too much emotion influencing their logic.

Now, if they both:
a - suffer for mistakes they make, and
b - actually learn from said mistakes, then
c - they become more conservative over time.

Older lefties are failing to have either a or b occur.
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>>72506433
pretty good bait senpai
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Comfort + coddling + insecurity = modern liberalism
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>>72501924
Yeah this is an insult to the Borg. The Borg actually bring their members to perfection, and are redpilled on inferior species
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>>72509408
>have particularly strong biological tendencies toward it.
Bizarre argument.

I have never understood why being young is any excuse for being a moron or a leech. I will sound fedoracore but I have considered myself a grown up since age 17 and the first few years after that were hard on me psychologically because I was fully conscious of being an almost pure consumer and a drain on the forces and wealth of other people.

Forget the white guilt bullshit, but I have had severe guilt between 17-22 knowing I was a leech. Do "free shit" students even realize they are unproductive? Do they not feel the strive for producing things? Don't they have any consciousness of time? If so, why are their time preference so ridiculous (here and now)?

I'm only 24 now but things are already much better. I am financially independent and have a high skill job in a tech company. I save and invest instead of consuming like a retard.

The main reason old people are merciful towards young retards is that a lot of them were retards as younglings.
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