http://pastebin.com/ymYNpSm0
>They are into principle and ideology—and that is Mr. Trump’s problem. Sources suggest to me that of the 950 “Trump” delegates, as many as half despise the former reality-TV star. Meaning that of the 2,472 delegates slated for Cleveland, maybe one-quarter currently want him as the nominee.
>But aren’t his delegates “pledged” to vote for him on the first ballot, regardless? A vocal—and growing—faction of delegates is saying they are not. A ringleader is Curly Haugland, an unbound delegate from North Dakota, and a longtime member of the GOP’s rules committee. In an open letter in March, he argued that there was only one convention in history (1976) in which GOP delegates were “bound,” and that this requirement was rescinded in 1980. He says delegates can vote their conscience.
>Is he right? What matters is that some delegates think so. Many are unhappy that their state legislatures have imposed “open primaries” that allow independents and Democrats to vote. Many view it as a bedrock constitutional principle that a party retains its right to choose its own nominee. Many are deeply troubled by Mr. Trump. Some are just ornery.
>With razor-tight margins, it wouldn’t take much to upturn the convention—even if Mr. Trump does get 1,237 “pledged” delegates. All it would take is a small (potentially very small) bloc of Trump delegates to defect—or simply abstain—that first round. The outrage from Trump supporters would be huge. Then again, many delegates have concluded that outrage from one side or another is inevitable. So pick your poison.
Well /pol/? What would happen? Nothing? The Happening?
>>72499253
it would be a shitstorm but no blood spilled.
>>72499253
>would be huge
>>72499253
If Trump get past 1237 and some of the bound delegates decide not to vote for him in spite of the rules expect a Cleveland in descend into chaos.
>If these things happen h-he won't be president...r-right guys?
Also, is Indiana another winner takes all state?
How's the God Emperor looking there?
stay in my room and scroll through /pol
>>72499253
This would trigger mass mutiny in the republican rank and file and Trump would assuredly run independently.
I kinda like that scenario since I'd like to see the republican party fracture into its conservative and libertarian components.
But that's not worth a Hillary presidency.
if they don't give him the nomination we should protest and cause ruckus some how
>>72499519
It's partly WTA with congressional district bullshit.
Cruz and Trump will both win delegates. Coin flip who's gonna win overall.
>>72499380
Nah, if Trump hits 1237 and Cruz becomes the nominee, you will see a death toll in the form of terrorist attacks from ordinary white Americans that will put that guy who blew up the IRS building to shame.
I think Bernie is going to win
>>72499253
It wont happen. This is all just wild tabloid shit stirring. There is lots of shilling going on using this Curly guy from North Dakota, who has never once actually said the things the Shills imply he is saying.
You can tell its UBER SHILLING when they use phrases like "a bedrock constitutional principle that a party retains its right to choose its own nominee.". Political Parties are private affairs and have jack shit to do with the Constitution. Kike shills are simply dropping Buzzwords to make to try and appeal to Conservatives the idea of any Stealing of the elections, and forfeiture of the People's Will as Good, Honest, Legitimate.
>>72499657
Looking forward to Trump hitting the threshold either way.
>>72499708
Nobody will do anything. The age of people actively fighting against tyrants is dead (unless mercs are hired by billionaires and governments to destabilize other governments).
Be nice to be proven wrong but doubtful.
>>72499253
Are delegates somehow more special that their vote should override thousands of others?
>>72499253
Then war is declared.
>>72499516
>drumpf
>hitting 1237
>>72500291
>>72499380
Ohio here. If the Republijews pull any such blatant Jewish tricks there will be blood spilled before they even leave the fucking convention.
>>72499253
>Sources suggest to me
lol nice source
trashed fggt
>>72499623
>conservative
>libertarian
>trump
?????
>>72499253
Clinton gets elected regardless of the Republican nomination.
>>72500291
He posted Trump.
>CURRENT YEAR
>using browser addons
Delegate names are public record. Might want to think twice.
They might as well just announce "we decided to never have a Republican president ever again."
>>72499836
I don't know man. I played a REALLY HARD us politics app and it said a whole bunch of shit about your idiotic parties-system and that was one of them. This app had questions like "what is the per capita net public debt?"
The Republican Party would simply die if that happened. Who would ever vote for such a party again? Like 20% of the population, tops. A third party would overtake them in less than a generation.
>>72500719
But OP said they might abstain the first round. This guy poses more of a challenge
>>72500703
but some say every person has their price
>>72500851
That post was all fucked
>>72500794
country won't be around if hilldog gets in
It's an interesting scenario to watch. We're basically seeing the Establishment decide how far they're willing to go to stop Trump ascending. Do they let him win, or are they willing to kill the party to see him lose?
we had the same thread yesterday.
>>72499253
They can vote for whomever they want. However, I doubt they can just reject Trump en masse and make it back to their hotels. I'd expect Mexico-tier shit from the people who are marching on Cleveland.
>>72500078
nah, it's just a party. every party has there own rules to decide who'll be the nominee.
you could just found a new one and decide that, idk the fastest runner will be nominee.
the problem is the two party system, so it kind of matters, but in a moral, not legal sense.
>>72499253
>actually against open primaries
These sickos need to get fucked
>>72499253
If it happens Trump will run as independent, making bernie feel safe to run as an independent without handing the election to the republicans. The net result being a 4 way between Clinton, Sanders, Trump and Cruz. Which may even improve Trump's chances in the long run
>>72499857
They don't need to, and shouldn't, do anything. Stealing the election is already tantamount to suicide for the Republican Party as Trump supporters will never support them again, politically or financially, leaving Republican candidates dead in the water while a new conservative/nationalist party emerges.
>>72499253
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives
>>72501911
They'll forget about it in 4 years.
They always do.
>>72500779
>it said a whole bunch of shit about your idiotic parties-system
The delegates vote on the New Rules. So the Establishment really can't fuck Trump over like everyone is Memeing. Their reach really isn't THAT far. There is a reason (republican) Governors and State governments tend to be good, while D.C. is shit. The delegates come from the States, not D.C. So it'll be quite hard to bribe a majority of them to fuck over Trump by some voodoo Rules Changes magic..... and also selling people (the delegates) on committing political suicide for the party as well... and not just for this election, but it would be a National travesty at this point for Republicans.
I think the people at the State Level wont risk fucking themselves over and losing power, just for shekels.... because thats all the GOPe can really promise, as the parties political clout will be gone if they stage a coup at the convention.
>>72502046
We have never had a guy like this run for President. Win, lose, or he gets fucked by the gop, this election will never be forgotten.
>>72499516
>Reoublican voters
>chaos
Unfortunately no, what would really happen is a mass sulking, retreating to computers, and threats of action whispered in secret lest someone actually hear them and think they're serious.
Bernie's Red Guard, which has more or less become the dedicated anti-Trump brigade since Bernie decided to roll over and die for Shillary, might throw a big party that would look like a riot though.
>>72499380
Americans have spilt blood over less. I imagine many Unabombers cropping up and targeting GOP officials at the local levels.
A McVeigh would also be nice.
If they didn't want him why would they pledge for him? I don't understand.
>Many view it as a bedrock constitutional principle that a party retains its right to choose its own nominee. Many are deeply troubled by Mr. Trump. Some are just ornery.
>constitution
>parties
What in the fuck are they talking about.
>>72499708
>>72500375
>>72502849
>W-WE'RE RILLY GUNNA DO IT THIS TIME
Like you said you would if Obama got elected? Like you said you would if he got reelected? like you said you would if the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare? And like your ancestors said they would if the voting rights act was passed, and this and that and so on and so on. Just shut up, you people are and always have been loud mouthed pussies who won't do shit.I hope the GOP just straight up says "nope, we're giving it to Cruz. Whatcha gonna do about it punks?"
>>72501134
I can kind of understand where they're coming from when you hear about people registering as democrats just so they can vote for bernie to sabotage that side or registering as republicans just so they can vote for trump to sabotage that side. No idea how common it is but it does sort of screw up the process.
>>72505196
Can you really not see the difference here between a piece of legislation you don't like being passed or a politician you don't like being elected and your party telling you that you don't get a say in who their presidential nominee is anymore? Can you really not see the difference? Maybe they aren't going to be going full day of the rope but there'll definitely be consequences, people aren't just going to get over this like obamacare it's such an open slap to the face of every single republican voter.
>>72499253
aren't they still shooting themselves in the foot? this sounds more like a discussion about which one
Just a reminder that Romney ran unopposed and still Trump is surpassing him and will most likely surpass G W Bush's GOP record.
This isn't just an election, it's a movement.
Unite the republican party and we win this.
Convert the cruz missiles.
Convert the Bernouts.
What would you anons realistically do if CNN was reporting mass shootings and riots in Cleveland?
Do you think it would spread across the country?
I'm not one for violence, but If this does happen, I don't want it to go down quitely
>What happens
>Hillary wins against Cruz.
>4 more years of obama's foreign and domestic policy - but even further left.
>more bullshit social activism
>chimps running amok
etc etc
What a time to be alive.
>>72500291
>drumpf
Who?
>>72499253
>>72505630
The problem is that it doesn't matter if they hamstring themselves. Their only objective is to keep a jew owned candidate in office. They would rather have Hillary win than Trump because Hillary will keep the money rolling for them.
>>72501385
There are a shit ton of sore loser laws that prevent anyone who's gotten this far in the nominating process to effectively run for president as an independent.
I remember these laws came up a bunch in 2012 in regards to Ron Paul. I specifically remember people suggesting Paul would drop out shortly after new year so that he could avoid running into these rules and running as an independent.
https://www.change.org/p/doj-indict-hillary-clinton?recruiter=532278470&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
Sign please
>>72505345
More of that fringe scenario happened in Ohio for Kasich because "le ebil trump".
It's stupid to be against open primaries because you can't win a general election without cross board appeal, especially as a Republican.
The funny thing is these fuckers were never EVER against open primaries when it gets their cuckservatives like Romney nominated but oh no when someone like Trump comes along it's the second coming of the holocaust
>>72506155
does this show the US is becoming more right-wing every election?
>>72500561
Nice ID
Praise KEK
>>72506573
the voting turnout from 2008 to 2012 had a significant shift nation-wide to republican.
>>72506252
>tfw Cruz becomes forever known as Canadian Mondale and we just keep pondering if Trump would have won the election or not
Why bother even running a loser like Cruz?
>>72499253
Legally they have to in the first vote, end of story.
>>72506573
Obama mysteriously lost over 3 million votes but Romney barely improved over McCain.
Romney was basically absent from campaigning the last month. If he wasn't such a mongoloid he would have won the election which was very winnable.
>>72506176
>voting for an anti nationalist Christian cuck
The main reason you guys don't have to worry about this is, there is no alternative. There is no one else they can put in that will satisfy half or more of the party. So whatever shenanigans they try, it won't matter, Trump will be the nominee as long as nothing weird happens before the convention.
>>72499380
Pretty much this. Nobody will do anything
>>72506800
Who are you talking about?
I seriously don't know any of the candidates religious affiliations except for sanders biological jewish ancestry.
>>72506750
>>72506660
Its funny how every election the right gets more and more votes yet the left becomes more and more prominent in the media.
>>72506747
Really there is just too much of this "HURRRRR TRUMP STUMPED IF THEY DO X" shit going around.
It's all tabloid shit. The Republican Party isn't going to do this, especially not today. It's not going to just throw this shit away when not even the media would be on their side if Trump got over 1237
>>72506862
Cruz is a Christian and believes he is the second coming of Jesus. Literally has a following called the priest hood.
>>72506671
>Muh conservative ideology
that's literally it
>>72506346
What happened to the cucksheds on the left? They're instantly gone after the flash but the one on the right is still visible?
Also nice vid
>>72506856
Yeah they will. You won't know about it though because it most likely won't be on the news.
>>72506919
He's not even conservative, he's a neocon hack.
Guys I have some bad news.
I just drew up the best case scenario for a Trump general election.
Shillary still wins.
>>72506919
>T-T-T-TRUMP ISN'T A CONSERVATIVE!
Can we please drown these cuckservatives? Who gives a fuck?
>>72506155
>Dat AZ just right of center.
Feels good mayne.
I'm cool with mexibros but not their illegal criminals and human traffickers.
>>72507005
She'll almost certainly take Wisconsin and will likely take Florida, Iowa and Virginia as well. May take Indiana and North Carolina as well.
>>72506932
Sorry, your cuckshed will be toast. All cucks will be lost. The one on the right as well.
>>72505531
>it's such an open slap to the face of every single republican voter
Who will then proceed to a. stay home and cry in their beer or b. go to the polls, bitching all the way, and vote R all the way down like the good little republibots they are. As they always do. That's why no one takes them seriously anymore, and haven't for a long time now.
>>72507184
Like I said, that was the BEST case scenario for Trump, it can only go down from there.
>>72507184
Florida is very clearly red this election.
>>72507449
North Carolina might go Democrat tho.
This will be the map of results for the 2016 election between Hillary and Trump. I don't like it, but let's face facts, this is what it will realistically be.
>>72507184
She did not win shit prior to this. How can you be so convinced? Especially with a woman on the other side?
>>72507515
Everything on there shows a republican win.
Every state on that list has a republican majority.
>>72507588
Ever heard the term statistically insignificant?
NC republican voter turnout was 1% more than that of the democrats
That's what we call statistically insignificant, it's a straight up swing state.
>>72507662
>let me obsess over this one little state over this minor insignificant difference while the entire list of states including the state with an insignificant different has a republican majority.
Keep up slovenia.
>>72506932
Actually, the camera angle shifted to the right slightly. The sheds to the left partially vanished from view because of said shift.
That or it was two separate cameras, one specifically designed to view Atomic Explosions.
>>72507746
I already posted a best case scenario from Trump here >>72507005
It takes into count all your sketchy predictions although really NC should be blank.
>>72499253
Would it be unreasonable to call for Curly Haugland's death yet?
He's the same asshole who's been behind several of these stories over the past few months.
>>72507005
>he thinks Trump won't win OH in the general
wew
>>72507814
Why is Colorado blue?
>>72507992
Oh you mean good ol' "Geez oh Golly Gosh Man" Ohio
>>72507662
>swing state
40.2%
>>72508073
Is Kasich running third party or something?
>>72508119
>>72508087
>>72508020
Alright alright HERE
>>72508228
wisconsin won't be red rofl. just look what illinois did to us with the recent spic protest in our capitol. they bused in spics from all over the region. they will manipulate wisconsin's voting again
>>72506747
Especially since many if not all of them are also bound by state laws.
>>72499253
Don't they have a moral obligation to follow the will of the people?
>>72508348
>Moral Obligation
>>72508119
No he is being paid by cruz super pacs to stay in the race. In addition to neglecting his state he is consuming huge amounts of food that is symbolic of what he will be doing the rest of his life.
>>72499253
> Many are unhappy that their state legislatures have imposed “open primaries” that allow independents and Democrats to vote
No shit, Democrats would want the worst Republican to win.
>>72508348
a system where a person is given a choice to be moral sucks because morality should not be optional
>>72508228
>mfw all the grey states go to McAffee
>mfw noone gets 51%
>mfw the House chooses Trump
>>72508020
>Why is water wet
Son have you ever been to the 303?
Trump obviously thinks he's going to get shafted. If he didn't he wouldn't constantly be egging his people on to be violent if he does. "Mr Trump what do you think will happen if it goes to convention and Cruz is nominated?" "We have lots of angry people, it will be bad. I think it will be very bad for them."
Isn't this grounds to get him arrested for inciting violence?
>>72508228
Need sauce photoshop queen.
>>72508531
That's not how it works. We've had president elected who only won a plurality before. Clinton never won 50.1%
>>72508596
what is that boulder?
They wolnt defect because nobody wants crooked Hillary and if someone else wins the republican nomination, especially considering how far ahead in votes trump is, it would not only give over the election but it would also significantly hurt the republican party.
>>72508630
http://www.270towin.com/
You can make it yourself.
>>72508596
What do you know about flatirons kraut?
>>72508927
Thanks man. This link was beneficial to me.
Actual results
>>72499380
You cunts fought a war of Independence because someone jacked up the taxes on shit you didn't even drink.
>>72508927
Woah
>>72509212
>PA
>Red
>NY
>Red
>CO
>Red
>VA
>Red
Are you retarded?
>>72509318
>trump's homestate
>not red
come on. he absolutely slaughtered NY
>>72499253
IT WAS A SOCIAL EXPERIMENT BRO.
LOOK AT THE CAMERA
YOUR VOTE DOESNT MEAN ANUTHING, SORRY. IT WAS A PRANK
>>72509318
Sorry wrong pic
>>72509212
>NY Red
>>72509318
>Trump not taking NY
>>72499253
Even rato supporters (upwards of 60%) want the delegates to go to the most popular. So I'm guessing a giant hovering fart will descend on the Republican party and shillary getting eiffel towered by soros and the koch bros will sit her roastie gaped hole in the iron throne.
>>72509318
At the same time Democrats are turning out in 20% less numbers than 2012, Republicans are coming out in droves, 60% over the last election.
>>72509420
Koch bros are Republican.
>they change sides during wars tho
>>72509212
More acurate
>But aren’t his delegates “pledged” to vote for him on the first ballot, regardless? A vocal—and growing—faction of delegates is saying they are not.
welp, off to war then.
>>72509505
Wut
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?chamber=S&cycle=2008&id=D000000186&party=D&sort=A&state=
>>72509340
>>72509416
Motherfuckers when was the last time New York went red? And before Reagan, how about that? The fuckin 50s? Nixon? The last election it went 63% democrat. If you wanna play it as Trumps homestate it's also a state Hillary was a senator in.
>>72509489
Cause it's the primaries and Hillary has already clinched the nomination.
>>72499253
they get the oven
>>72509489
Women will come out in droves to vote for "muh furst fehmale presidunt"
>>72509505
David Jones and Richard Sullivan, who together havebundledmore than $700,000 for Clinton’s campaign, are two of the top lobbyist bundlers for Clinton this election cycle.
Those guys are the kochs hired lobbyists btw
>>72509635
>>72509757
Oh hey that's the Nixon election I mentioned.
>>72509757
My Dad was in grad school in Massachusetts during that election cycle and he remembers most people he knew there thinking McGovern would win because everybody said "Everyone I know is voting for McGovern".
Is Colorado still a swing state bros?
>>72499253
>>72499380
>>72499708
You guys care too much. What will he change? I would vote for him myself and the idea of a wall is funny and interesting (this is the reason why want to see it) but it really won't change all too much and not in a million years will he touch your nigger or Jew problematic, quite the opposite, he seems to love both (or at least acts this way which is the same outcome).
Trump, Cruz or maybe even Bernie... It won't be a big difference.
You fucked up big time with apartheid, you will forever pay the price. And you fucked up even more welcoming all the Jews and the Frankfurt School. Sadly, your level of fucked of course also affects Europe.
>>72509877
Technically but it's been solid blue for a while.
>>72509605
Thats nothing they investes billions in Tea party think tanks, Libertarian movements, and conservative instituions and lobbies, as well as funding the R-candidates.
The only problem with Trump is the TPP and mercatilism. Otherwise they will be supporting him, including his wall.
>all these fucking cowards saying nothing will happen
Speak for yourself, spineless faggots. You are part of the problem. You'll have to be purged as well.
>>72509800
So it's never goes Red, except in 1952, 1956, 1972, 1980, 1984?
1988, and 1968 are the only landslides where it didn't flip in the last half century. GW Bush won both of his elections by thin margins.
There's no chance it flips except in an epic landslide. I actually missed that you had mentioned Nixon.
>>72509527
more obscure 1920.
>>72509925
I looked it up and it went blue twice for Obama, before that is was red.
>>72509982
2008 was 8 years ago. It's solid blue because of demographic changes for multiple reasons.
[spoiler]pooooooooot bro[/spoiler]
>>72499380
Hello FBI
>>72509908
This picture doesn't even address the fact there are like twice up to three times more blacks than Hispanics in America. Yet this orange fool can't stop talkling about HIspanics. Hispanics here, Hispanics there. Oh, and China.
>>72510050
You know that general election against Shillary is coming and they're gonna ask if he supports legalization of Mary Jane and he's probably going to say yes for medical purposes.
>>72509908
As fucked as we are, Germany is about 100x more fucked.
>>72499253
Roots and hillery as press
The GOP will be gone
>>72499253
Roots and hillery as press
The GOP will be gone
>>72499380
Chuck alert
>>72510050
>Implying people that actually move to Colorado to smoke pot will vote
>>72510395
We do.
>>72499380
Technically there's already been blood spilled at Trump's rallies alone.
>>72510265
>as much your numbers prove we are hundred times more likely to racemix, have hundred times more Jews and crimes and immigrants, y-you are hundred times more fucked
What causes Americans to be this delusional? Is it the stupid propaganda?
>>72508940
Born and raised
>>72499253
The same thing can be said of Shitlary, I expect a full on BTFO against her.
>>72499253
They don't get any tip - that's right, isn't it?
>>72499519
God-Emperor is not running; just Trump.
>>72499836
Um, might have been referring to the constitution of the Republican party? No?
>>72504244
Because nobody in the gop wants cruz either.
>>72499253
Pic related
We can make it happen too goddammit
Im tired of fucking around with these shits
That we have reached a point where the GOP is rooting for the liberal candidate and make Trump sign a pledge right before considering a 3rd party to deliberately throw the election is proof of how badly they need thrown out out out.
I and many others have no qualms left about seeking extra-political remedies to this bullshit; Anyone wanting to avoid collapse shouldn't either.
This is fifty goddam states and nearly a third of the goddam continent. Its as simple as this. The government can either have a nationalist solution or a nationalist problem. It couldn't be any clearer.
Citizens working their fucking asses off and cant afford a home and no mother allowed to be one because she has to work to and have a bunch of liberals at school brainwash her kids. Men cant afford to become fathers and work for a pittance.
Meanwhile jobs go overseas, the banks gamble, the government gets its hands deeper in your pocket and finds new ways to weaken and make an enemy of the governed, and the as the government slowly drives the native descendants of this country into family extinction, a bunch of foreigners get our jobs, our money and plenty of breaks to build their families and breed us to extinction.
fts
>>72499253
All hell would break loose.
By the end of the primary season we'll have had tens of millions of Americans voting in the primary contests, the majority of them for Trump.
If you deliberately throw out the results of that voting in order to nominate someone who either didn't win a majority of votes or didn't win, it'll be sheer fucking chaos.
>>72499253
They would be publicly hanged, so they better vote for Trump.
> Then again, many delegates have concluded that outrage from one side or another is inevitable. So pick your poison.
Oh gee, outrage from the majority of voters or minority, I fucking wonder what would hurt conservatives more this election
>>72506800
A FUCKING LEAF
>>72509243
Kek
You are right though. It would be a bloodbath, and I would definitely be staying indoors for a week or so.
>>72505196
>Like you said you would if Obama got elected?
no one ever said that
>>72499519
It's a tossup tbqh, mi familia.
>>72506380
In all but maybe 3 states, sore loser laws don't apply to presidential candidates. Just senators, governors, etc.
>>72505196
>>72507312
Not only Trump voters would think it's a disgrace. It would be one of the biggest upsets of recent times. It would show that democracy in the USA is one big joke, not better than Russia. You either vote neocon or your vote doesn't count.
>>72509243
Yes, but all wars are bankers wars. These kikes have brainwashed the masses badly, only the smart survive.
Lol I was reading about vegans, not only does their brain stop functioning properly their children are deficient too.
Then there is the growing monkey/spic welfare state.
>>72499253
We burn it down.
Nice democracy you've got here.
>>72510081
Hispanics significantly outnumber blacks actually. Black people are just overrepresented in the media
>>72520105
It's internal affairs of the party, they can do it however they want. It's just that they'd be retarded not to back Trump.
