HUGE BOOST FOR INDIANA
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/29/gov-mike-pence-of-indiana-to-endorse-ted-cruz-as-primary-nears/
TRUMP IS FUCKED
Fuck off, shills. Endorsements don't do shit.
An establishment party member endorsing someone other than Trump is about as effective as a movie star calling Trump racist/sexist/whatever. It's predictable, obvious, and overplayed. It's ceased to have any effect.
It's Wisconsin all over again.
>>72434693
>>72434655
>>72434507
>>72434477
URGENT: NEW CRUZ & CARLY '16 AD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks-7-sKCpiw
Ted Cruz is a self appointed Messiah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNa5w9js48s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v9JYj4jaA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp4lIvDIv-g
https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2016/01/12/cruz-and-his-seven-mountain-dominionism-is-not-in-my-bible-is-it-in-yours/
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/why-christians-are-criticizing-ted-cruz-and-israel/
He's an opportunistic faggot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDnuWLuAbCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cozMqBTMI9Y
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/276256-cruz-new-york-values-comment-came-from-trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-pwGx4vv2g (bribery?)
No moderate or independant will vote for this lunatic dominionist come November. Hillary will use this angle and stomp his dumbass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN1IXDrXgV0
Creepy Cruz:
http://archive.is/Ejs95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqpHTFJO4mE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIntL-W2Cq4
http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1461853942229.webm
>>72434655
Just like walker in Wisconsin, right?
>>72434477
These official endorsements never have any effect. Every single time, the person officially endorsing the candidate has already been shilling for that candidate for months, anyway. I'm always like, "Wait didn't you already endorse him"?
>>72434693
Walker didn't convince anyone in Wisconsin to vote Cruz.
Wisconsin is just a Cruz state.
>>72434858
That not what the polls said 2 weeks out. With Walker's endorsement and his campaigning, the tides were turned in Wisconsin. If Cruz loses Indiana the race is over, so pence's endorsement is huge for this tight race.
>>72434956
Tell me, until now, has Walker been keeping his mouth shut about the race, or has he been talking about how Trump must be stopped? Sincere question. My guess is that it's the latter, in which case this changes nothing.
D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-E
Trump will sweep the day.
>>72434956
Polls haven't been right all election.
Trump and Cruz have lost state after state with governor endorsements, far more liked governors then Walker or Pence. And your a shill.
>>72435109
I havn't been following walker. But every time he's with cruz he talks up cruz. Havn't really seen him ever going after trump.
Yet another head on the wall for failed governors who endorsed the loser candidate.
Bobby Knight's endorsement >>>> Pence's
>>72434477
Welp, I guess it wasn't gonna be easy. I'm feelin a Huckabee endorsement though
>>72435350
>Polls haven't been right all election.
They have, though. The polls this season have been very on point. A few couldn't really be trusted, but they all indicated an outcome that was consistent with the recent polling.
Trump seems to under perform his polling for most of this race, untill NY and the rest of the NE voted, where he massively over performed. but for predicting a winner, the polls have been good.
>>72434783
there is literally nothing to do in wisconsin but pray, eat cheese, and watch football for 5 months
pretty muh Cruz's base
Pence is an idiot. He's trying to do to Indiana what Brownback did to Kansas: crater the local economy and drive it into deep debt with cuts, cuts, cuts.
Ohio's economy has taken off like a rocket compared to Indiana. Indiana is stuck in neutral.
>>72435586
Then prey tell why trump was ahead by a large margin a few weeks out of the contest?
How much money did Rato give him?
He gave 500k +VP seat to mrs.skeletal because she is blackmailing him about his affairs.
So, did any funds of his mysteriously disappear?
Yes, we all remember how Nikki Haley's enthusiastic endorsement of a rival candidate crushed Donald Trump in South Carolina!
>>72434477
Too little too late
It's better Trump loses so the race stays tight and people show up to vote in other places
>>72434858
>Wisconsin is just a Cruz state.
FUCKING CRUZ MISSILES NEED TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY STATE! GET OUT! GET OOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUT!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>72434655
In this election, I think you're right. Usually everyone is "in" the Establishment, and endorsements are used by smaller groups within the Establishment to push their mini-agendas or views of how things should be done.
But this time, it is only Establishment vs NonEstablishment. Therefore these kinds of endorsements can help trump either way:
-- Establishment endorse Cruz --> win for Trump because that's expected and is his whole campaign anyway.
-- Establishment endorse Trump -- > also win because they're surrendering.
Pence has sealed his fate.
>>72435755
Ok, time to shut up Finland
>>72435672
what margin?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_republican_presidential_primary-3763.html
>>72434477
Completely irrelevant.
These endorsements don't mean shit.
>>72435830
How is Cruz establishment and Trump not, when trump is golfing buddies with Boner and gave over 100k to Hillary?
>>72435564
He overperformed in New Hampshire and SC, and in Florida. He underperformed in Iowa, Oklahoma Kansas and Wisconsin
Saying there has been a consistent rate is a bit too on the nose my man, polls have been shit.
There's no blanket statement that covers these things, and no, the polling has been terrible.
Saying there's been a consistent underperformance is a bit too on the nose my man.
>>72434956
>That not what the polls said 2 weeks out. With Walker's endorsement and his campaigning, the tides were turned in Wisconsin.
Walker endorsed Ratto the end of march.The polls had already showed him leading by 10 at that point:
FOX Business 3/28 - 3/30 742 LV 3.5 42 32 19 Cruz +10
Loras College 3/28 - 3/29 416 LV 4.8 38 31 18 Cruz +7
Marquette 3/24 - 3/28 471 LV 5.8 40 30 21 Cruz +10
>Trump seems to under perform his polling for most of this race,
No he either outperformed or hit his target in most states:
Alabama, Arizona, NH, Mass, Nevada, Illinois etc
trump doesn't even need indiana to win. hes leading +27 in cali.
>>72436017
I went a bit rubio there.
>>72435939
this one.
>>72435755
It's already tight. California, the last election, will decide the winner.
>>72436109
the ones that say cruz is leading?
>>72436184
The one that said trump was initially leading by 10 points.
>>72435830
ON the other hand, at this point Cruz's challenge is to prevent his vote from deciding IT'S OGRE!!! and either staying home on election day, or worse (from Cruz's position) jumping on the bandwagon.
Endorsements, the Carley pick -- these things show a campaign that looks still alaive, and can help hold the vote.
Whether they can hold enough of it remains to be seen.
Laying aside who might win and what the aftermath might be, it might at least be worth seeing how an open convention runs. None of us have ever seen one.
>>72436011
Are you forgetting that Trump also funded Trump and Cruz? That guy is so establishment it's insane.
So is Cruz. Literally funded by Trump.
>>72435890
You guys aren't very bright you don't look at the big picture.
>>72436314
When you're running for public officer, those of us not given millions of dollars from daddy, have to raise funds via donation.
>>72436011
Are you retarded?Boehner isn't relevant anymore.Paul Ryan refused to take sides:
>Ryan has adamantly ruled out accepting the Republican nomination. He also said Thursday he has "a much better relationship with Sen. Cruz" than Boehner.
> He also said Thursday he has "a much better relationship with Sen. Cruz" than Boehner.
> He also said Thursday he has "a much better relationship with Sen. Cruz" than Boehner.
Trump was also golf buddies with Rand as well.
And he supported and donated to ROMNEY and Ratto both.
Ratto is also supported openly by Jeb Bush, Graham, Carly "Cruz is just another politician lying his ass off" Fiorina etc.
>>72436214
you have 5 polls that show Cruz in the lead in the final week of march vs 1 good trump poll
which one do you think is accurate?
>>72434956
The race is not fucking tight. Look at the delegate count, you fucking shill
>>72436214
In february, retard.Look at the polls, Ratto was leading with 10 points in late March before ENDORSEMENTS.
>>72436422
>Boehner isn't relevant anymore.
Yes he is. You don't live here. I don't tell you how Bulgarians believe, don't tell me what Americans find relevant.
>>72436528
I'm referring to Indiana, Muhammad.
>>72436411
So you're saying that your system is broken and set up to elect corrupt arseholes. Got it.
>>72436646
If you can't convince people to give you money to run for office, you don't deserve to run for office.
>>72436699
Your point is what? You're just affirming that your system is designed to elect corrupt arseholes.
More power to you, but don't act surprised if they promise you one thing and deliver something else.
>>72436820
Point to a decision Cruz has made that was influenced by the 5,000 Trump gave him.
I'm waiting.
>>72436411
>When you're running for public officer, those of us not given millions of dollars from daddy, have to raise funds via donation.
Retarded excuse.Kill yourself.
And btw, Trump has spend the least of any candidate.
Sanders also doesn't have to bend over for Wallstreet and etc to fund his campaign.
>>72436567
Kill yourself,retard.It's not my fault you don't actually know shit.
>>72436944
Why? Cruz is not getting elected. Even if I did look up some bullshit he did as a senator, it is moot because he is not in the race.
>>72437066
He is though. This is how the republican nomination works: You need a majority of the delegates to become the republican nominee. If you fail to reach said majority the delegates who have been elected by the people will come together and continue voting until there is a majority candidate. This process is ment to find the best candidate that represents the republican party.
Ted cruz is denying trump the majority, so in Cleveland he can convince the delegates not to back cruz, but instead vote for him.
So yea, this endorsement matters, since it can deny trump the needed delegates from reaching 1237. Since this is a winner-take-all state and the polling indicates a very tight race.
>>72437387
The nomination does not matter. He is not getting elected whether he wins nomination through magic or not.
Hillary or whoever they will replace her with will win 100%.
>>72437597
I'll be the first to admit that Cruz polls very poorly against clinton. But trump polls a lot worse. With trump winning the nomination Arizona and Utah become purple, that's insane. Cruz has at least a long shot at the presidency.
>>72437387
Ratto isn't denying him shit:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/29/upshot/donald-trump-doesnt-need-indiana-anymore.html
And no the endorsement does not matter at all.The Walker endorsement did not matter and he was more liked than Pence.Try again.
>>72437744
I am not talking about polls, he is not going to win even if he was polling good. I mean it's pretty absurd idea that he was polling good, but just for the sake of an argument I'd accept that hypothetical. He'd still not win. He doesn't have a long shot, he has no shot. Literally none.
Lets hope that Cruz becomes the repub. nominee, I want you to see what I mean unfolding with your own eyes.
>>72437776
Yeah, from the last stink of Trumps wins he no longer needs Indiana. But Cruz does. If cruz loses Indiana there is no stopping trump.
Cruz need to win Indiana then go on and win a lot of CA.
>>72437597
This all day long.
You don't need polling data to see that there is nothing about Cruz that attracts moderate and independent voters. Voters any candidate sorely needs to win the general.
>>72437969
So you're talking about your feelings about a race half way across the world from you? Every shred of evidence we have to this point indicates trump losing horribly in November. Lucky to win 10 states.
everyone in Indiana hates Pence. conservatives and liberals. Trump was already going to win Indiana, but Pence endorsing Cruz really seals the win for Trump
>>72434477
Nikki Haley 2.0
I live in indiana. Everyone hates pence. Bobby knight may as well be our govenor
>>72438165
No, I am not talking about feelings, I'm talking about the objective fact that Cruz is horrendously bad at hiding his character flaws. Either that or he isn't even trying.
Whatever the case is, he is going to lose because of it. He makes Hillary look good and believe me that's a pretty hard thing to do.
>>72435246
damn what a beautiful image
>the most racist state in the midwest
>voting for an open borders shill
Trust
In
TRUMP
>>72434693
Stop whining, frogposter.
We'll win it.
Phaahahahahaha apparently Pence praised Trump while "endorsing" Ratto.
Phaahahahahhah
You are a retard if you really think people here care about what Pence says.
>trump is great
>no really, he's really, really good
>like really good
>I'm voting for cruz though
That was a weird endorsement
>>72436646
>>72436411
>>72436699
I've yet to hear an explanation to what happens if money is taken out of politicians and only millionaires and billionaires have the money to run.
>>72438822
Why do the people Ratto wants the most prefer Trump over him"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1oZR8NFYVo
>>72438513
We're not the most racist (I'm looking at you Missouri). We just got away with a whole lot of shit far longer than any other state.
What really fucks Trump is all those drugs flooding in from Mexico cutting into local markets. Nobody in Indiana wants that.
>>72438906
The invisible puppet masters come out of the hiding. So now you know who is fucking you instead of seeing his sockpuppet do the deed.
>>72438650
Endorsing half-heartedly as well.
You can see he's just not into Cruzz.
>>72438211
I totally agree. Pence is a jackass who has messed up every step of the way. He will be beaten by the mustache come election time. I'll be voting for Gregg.
>>72439114
>You can see he's just not into Cruzz.
Is anyone?
>>72438960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R4DfyPnE_0
>>72434477
Ratfucker already lost.
Pic unrelated
>>72438362
Like I said, you're being emotional.
>>72439437
> Dems would prefer Cruz to Trump
Aaaaaaaaand... That's how I know your poll is bullshit
>>72439100
So it's missionary this time
>>72439570
You think too highly of democrats.
Governor Pence might as well have had a gun to his head during that "endorsement".
The man just wanted to sit on the sidelines and wait it now. Now he's angered Trump supporters, and maybe angered Cruz supporters too.
>>72438211
This. 765 here. Best endorsement FOR Trump actually. I'm surprised he did this, as Pence is up for reelection.
>>72439780
Sorry m8 but in every open primary so far, Dems have overwhelmingly voted Trump over Cruz. But your magic poll you copied and pasted from the Internet wants you to believe dems prefer Cruz
317 represent
Hoosierboys ww@
>>72436314
If you don't contribute (pay tribute) the politicians will F you over.
>>72439881
You know this is a republican primary, right? The dems who cross over to vote are not indicative of the dems at large in a general.
>>72434477
bobby knight > kike fence
>>72436314
>Are you forgetting that Trump also funded Trump and Cruz? That guy is so establishment it's insane.
>So is Cruz. Literally funded by Trump.
>>72440308
Ahhhh right. How foolish of me :^)
>>72434477
Literally who?
Bobby knight > this fag
>>72434477
Who honestly gives a fuck who their governor tells them to vote for?
If Rick Scott told me to vote for someone i didn't want to vote for i wouldn't give a flying fuck.
>>72438211
This Hoosier gets it.
>>72439437
Polls like this are sorta' worthless because people don't/can't answer them honestly, so long as their candidate is still in the race. Example: none of the Republican candidates are polling above 70% amongst Republican voters. Do you honestly believe any of the three candidates wouldn't do better than 70% amongst Republican voters against Hillary?
I'm from Indiana. People here hate Pence so if anything Cruz just damaged himself
>>72439813
I think Trump supporters are more forgiving. Keep in mind people expected him to go full Cruzshill, and instead he said some nice things about Trump. And some is better than none imo.
>>72438519
>We'll
Fuck off britshit
>>72435246
>Right Click Fuggen Saved :DDD
>>72442090
>People here hate Pence
Only because he isn't Mitch Daniels.
>>72442445
Don't you realize that there are shitloads of Brits shilling for Trump over here? We're fighting for the same cause as you.
>>72442276
>I think Trump supporters are more forgiving.
>the party of hate
>forgiving
>>72434956
>tight race
This is how wee know you're a dishonest shill. Try a little harder to conceal it next time.
>>72435977
Dubs don't lie.
I endorse a man that's been mathematically eliminated from the competition, because fuck you that's why.
It's just shitting on voters at this point.
>>72442702
Yeah, it's a tight race, trump is up by about 2 points. Are you retarded?
>>72434477
Good for Ted.
>>72442840
I'm afraid you are the one who's retarded.The poll you are refering to has no credibility
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChKecrbWgAA55-i.jpg
Moving on though, can you explain to me why Ratto keeps getting the most pathetic "ENDORSEMENTS" possible?
Lindsay "I really wish i could kill the Rat " Graham
Carly "He is a lying Rat" Fiorina
Mike "Id rather endorse Trump" Pence.
>>72443389
Ratto supporters are THIS FUCKING RETARDED.
>Pic related is your endorsements for Ratto.
Mike Pence isn't all that liked anyway.
>>72440997
>Polls like this are sorta' worthless
This cycle is all about saying what you just did whenever some data comes back to prove a thing an anon held to be true was wrong.
>Do you honestly believe any of the three candidates wouldn't do better than 70% amongst Republican voters against Hillary?
Do you think people contacted by polling groups achieve maximum turnout?
>>72443702
Stop spinning bs and let's laugh at your sorry excuse of a candidate.
>>72443502
>>72443641
Why is Ratto so desperate and pathetic?I know he is garbage, but jesus, doesn't he have ANY fucking standarts?
>>72443641
>some excerpted pleasantries, snapshotted and highlighted, given before Pence's detailed and enthusiastic endorsement of Ted Cruz
Evidently, Trump shlls are THIS FUCKING DESPERATE.
Indiana anon here, everyone hates pence. There are signs that read "fire mike pence" everywhere in Marion county. If anything, this endorsement hurts pence's reelection, not trumps.
>>72444235
>given before Pence's detailed and enthusiastic endorsement of Ted Cruz
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA
No seriously desperate retard, why is your candidate so fucking pathetic?
>>72444276
Marion county is the seat of Indianapolis. You're taking your lead from Democrats.
>>72434477
doesn't matter Bobby Knight picked trump
>>72442276
That was a really halfassed endorsement for Cruz. He was obviously between a rock and a hard place. I want to hate him for endorsing Cruz, but I also can't blame him, especially since his financial backers are probably all Cruz supporters.
>>72434693
Trump is ahead IN EVERY POLL and hes up by 9 points in the latest one.
>>72435672
Why are you here if you don't follow politics and the election? Trump won every poll in wisconsin but one
>>72446417
*Cruz
sorry
>>72446051
>especially since his financial backers are probably all Cruz supporters.
>What do Jeb, Rubio, Cruz & Pence have in common? Club4Growth's $$ AND they all do what they are told.
https://twitter.com/bocavista2016/status/726094553527234561?lang=en
ALSO:
>Indiana's governor started off his endorsement of Ted Cruz with lengthy praise of Donald Trump
http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pence-donald-trump-ted-cruz-2016-4
>>72434693
Not really. Trump is leading every single poll, including the Clout push poll.
In every contest so far except the home state contests (OH, TX, NY), the only cases where Trump lost the state but was leading in the polls were:
>caucuses
>Idaho (shitty polls)
>Oklahoma (Texas Jr)
Indiana is a
>primary with
>multiple polls that are relatively consistent
>nowhere near Texas
>>72446199
>>72446288
>ARG poll
Waiting for the Trumpshills to attack the credibility of ARG's performance this election cycle...
...waiting...
>>72444052
Ted "Booger-tooth" Cruz
>>72436135
>California, the last election, will decide the winner.
HAHAHAHAHA YOU ALL FUCKING LAUGHED LAUGHED AT US, NOW IT'S UP TO COMMIEFORNIA TO SAVE YOUR PRECIOUS CANDIDATE. I CAN'T FUCKING
BELIEVE THAT MY STATE IS VOTING TRUMP AND TEXAS VOTED FOR RATO. THIS IS THE BEST ELECTION EVER.
>>72448055
The Arg and the retarded Clout/Wensel poll cancel eachother out
>>72443502
But besides Wi, hasn't Arg correctly predicted the winners anyway?
>>72448651
Do yourself and the country a huge service, Cali. Don't fuck this up.
>>72448651
This is California's last chance to redeem itself.
This will be the last reality check needed before the convention, which even the GOP realizes is a party-killer if they end up with a contested one.
Trump wins, Cruz gets his shit slapped (because face it, "Rato" is probably going to stick to him like it was welded to his forehead) and possibly even ends up booted in the next election cycle for his seat.
Firiona if anything bought Cruz 15 minutes of attention, but it's the same kind of attention an old man gets when he shits himself all the way down the grocery aisle. Fascinated disgust.
>>72434477
Is he popular at all in Indiana?
>>72449005
Don't worry Trump is already leading there by 20 points.
Now kill yourself.
>>72443702
Wow, you missed the point, big time.
Campaigns (and voter support) evolve as we get closer to the actual election; particularly when we transition from the primaries, to the general. Maybe Trump looses. Maybe he looses the general by double digits. My point is it's impossible for any poll to accurately reflect this at this stage of the election because there are factors in play now, that won't be come October/November.
>>72449649
That's fucking it up.
>>72450964
>My point is it's impossible for any poll to accurately reflect this at this stage of the election because there are factors in play now, that won't be come October/November.
These polls were always relevant as to who had more strength against the same opponent, and by this point in time they are accurate predictors of who wins 2/3 of the time.
