What's wrong with globalism?
>>72398361
It greatly reduces sovereignty, which is necessary for democracy.
>>72398361
Why would you want your country working in anyone's but your interest
>>72399240
>my country
what exactly made it mine?
>>72398361
>hating the middle class
Whats good about it?
Life is meaningless, so fuck leftists
>>72399292
the constitution
>>72399398
Nietzschefag detected
>>72398361
whats wrong with me that makes you believe I'm not good enough as i am?
>>72399292
If you're seriously asking, you're even more cucked than we are. Your ancestors fought for this, burger...
>>72399944
My ancestors fought against the US
>>72399292
Being born there? Pole living in Canada here, I can at any point fly to an area of the world where there exists an entire population of people that share my culture and language, I am accepted there. I can go to a soccer match and scream the national anthem with tens of thousands of others and feel true pride in MY nation that has carved out an existence for itself out of complete darkness.
As to the OP, globalism much like communism work great on paper but unfortunately doesn't factor the flawed nature of man into the equation. The love of money is the root of all evil and has existed in humans for all of history.
>>72399398
>>72398361
Everyone has to abide to a certain ideology and set of law.
>>72398361
Different peoples have generally distinct traits as a result of thousands of years of culture, education and genetics which result in differences in interpersonal, cognitive and behavioral traits. Homogeneous societies this tend to be more peaceful and well administrated .
Globalism in the form of mass immigration needs to take into account
>Those coming with ulterior motives
(Organized crime, terrorist cells etc)
>Aggregate per capita welfare consumption, crime rates and birth rates between groups
>Voting patterns, which can very well change the way of life for the host population
>Forced or pressured accomodations by the host population to the migrating population
>"Unfree" uses or taking advantage of those coming over (slavery, indentured servitude) at the expense of both the host country's Labor and the visitor's rights
>The ability of those coming to consent to transactions as well as the host population, as many would be borderline retarded and or illiterate
>>72399786
>>72400457
tfw no one can ever answer nihilist arguments
>>72398361
>Based Augustus frowns on your skepticism.
But seriously, just take a look at how the Romans structured "Globalism" and how the West structures "Globalism," and know that Roman Globalism lasted five centuries, while Western Globalism may not survive to five decades. Roman Government had more in common with the Communist Party of China than the United States.
That should be enough info to draw the kinds of conclusions I drew. Unfortunately, if we were to miss the Iceberg, we would've had to change the course a decade ago.
>>72398361
You may be one of the "I'm part of one race, the human race" types, and Western civilisation allows you to be, but people outside of western civilisation by and large do not share your values. Technological and societal realities don't allow for a united Earth without fucking everyone over at this point in history, so fuck off with your ideological bullshit.
>>72399398
>Life is meaningless
edgy
>>72398361
No memes
>>72398361
This was the book I read which made me realized we were fucked. Its also why I try to get as little involved with the Donor Class as possible. This is the fucking shit that went on to create Globalism. I don't trust powers at be to do likewise.
>>72400531
Globalism in the form of trade also needs serious auditing (and if someone brings up Ricardo's example of Advantages given a set of trading circumstances between two nations assuming only 2 goods from Econ 101: realize that was C.P.- all else being equal- level playing field- no externalities-no confounding variables.
What about the opening up of missile technologies to the PRC during the Clinton era?
What about the supposedly "free" trade built in extortion, blackmail and effective enslavement of laborers ?
What about supposed "free" trade with nations with artificially low interest rates?
What about supposed "free trade" with a hybrid command/market economy whose governments push publicly extracted resources toward investments in certain sectors at the expense of others?
What about "free" trade with governments who steal government and private sector secrets especially from the military technology and engineering sectors?
What about "free" trade at the expense of building our own military technology in-house top to bottom?
For your Ricardo I bring up Bastiat- look into both the seen and the unseen.
It's Jewish.
What's wrong with nationalism?
>>72401147
Globalism in the form of exporting political, economic and cultural systems can also be dangerous. It ruins the ability of smaller nations and groups to decide for themselves what is best and gives that power to a larger authority through various unions .
Certain peoples or cultures are incompatible with democracy - or would fail under any economic structure - socialist, communist, capitalist.
It's a money sink in many cases.
The US could survive as an autarky, and comfortably as well. That cannot be said of almost any nation on Earth
What's most disconcerting is people not realizing how capitalism promotes and furthers globalism. Capitalism possesses no ideology but to make money. This is best achieved by destroying cultural and ideological barriers, so their vile tendrils can spread to every disparate corner. They do this because sovereignty and national identity can create divisions and disagreements that impede entrance into new markets, new resources, new money. It's a cancer that must be violently removed.
>>72400657
I could take you on a step by step deconstruction on why nihilism is bad for society and you personally but you would just say "so what man life is meaningless"
nihilism is the ideology for lazy stoners.
>>72401572
"Capitalism" turned out to be the fucking problem to Globalism. That's what Augustus figured out and then he liquidated all the wealth of the 'billionaires' to fund his empire of legionaries. Augustus then had to do all sorts of complicated shit that eventually produced the Empire, but again, it was the genius of the madman which solved the problem. Rome happened because Augustus. Without him, the Empire would've never happened.
Welp. I've done enough posting on pol today.
>>72401572
>Capitalism possesses no ideology but to make money.
You're thinking of Crony capitalism and Corporatism. Big Globalist Corps like Google working with Government for profit
>>72401277
The same thing that's wrong with globalism, the people don't live by good values.
Any government style would be good if the population was sufficiently virtuous.
But every system will be bad if the people lack righteous principals.
>>72401972
What's hilarious is that the Roman Empire was infamously known for printing money, gratuitous welfare and price controls. Straight outta Venezuela.
>>72398361
We're not spacebound yet faggot. There is no reason for globalism at this point, especially since different cultures still can't live side by side without trying to kill each other
>>72400228
>>72399944
Yeah, that doesn't work for US. No wonder he is asking this question.
What's wrong with wanting to fuck that bunny?
What is wrong with globalism is that it completely removes things like community and culture and replaces it with individual entitlement, leading to the eventual existential crisis of society and that causes full scale civil war, and a civil war on a global scale is a world war. The essential protection of such a threat is removal of all of your rights. Be a good slave.
>>72398361
there is nothing inherently wrong with "globalism" it is an ideology more than a practice
"globalists" is just used interchangeably with "muh elite" because the richest people in the world own assets all over the globe which inevitably has control over other people's lives
>>72398361
>multiculturalism works
Let this meme die already. Have you not learned anything in the history class if not while growing up in a semi-multicultural country?
>>72401769
>on why nihilism is bad on society
I'm not really a nihilist but that's not counter to nihilism at all. It's not about the betterment of society so that argument really doesn't mean anything. Though I would be interested in hearing how making the most of your life and acting in self interest rather than being guided by a moral code or sense of duty is bad for a man
>>72399292
Might. Meaning you, the People.
Borders are not "imaginary lines", they're there because the people of that country will (should) fight for it.
Unless you're Europe, then you're a slave to the EU, and you're Muslim now, deal w/ it.
>>72398361
Everything, you kike.
>>72398361
Because I don't want to share the same borders with Africa and India tbqh
>>72402527
Roach is right. If we and the roaches lived in the same country for 400 years we would probably get used to, but before getting used to, we would fuck each other up.
>>72399786
NIETZSCHE DID NOT CONDONE NIHILISM YOU FUCKING PLEB READ HIS BOOKS FAGGOT
>>72402286
Just read this and leave thread.
Borders exist because we disagree with others and don't want to be like them. It's that simple.
>>72398361
The bigger the hill, the smaller the ants.
>>72398361
Literally nothing. Conflict of interest will always exist though.
>>72402560
>inb4 fags telling acting in self interest is bad thing while they support capitalism
>>72402776
Nice!
>>72402629
Yehaw, now that's a post. Take that internet. Legalize LGB's and Artillery! I ain't free until I can buy grenades and 120mm mortar at Walmart. Call for fire should be taught in all Merican schools.
If only those poor marathon joggers had their own explosives to defend themselves with.
>>72398361
Take a look around you faggot.
Turn on the news.
That should tell whats wrong with globalism
>>72401769
>>72398361
Cultures clash
Westerners are individualistic and success oriented, which doesn't do so well with Eastern cultures who are more relationship oriented and also are lazy as shit
So it becomes a conflict of: do we include everyone or just work with people who actually want to get the job done
then wahhhh wahhh muh global elite etc
As the internet becomes more and more a part of our lives and connects us to each other no matter what part of the planet we're on, I believe that globalism is an inevitability; as humanity eventually becomes a space-faring race, we will all be representatives of the planet Earth
It favours weaker nations that pay less tax and contribute less resources, contribute fewer educated people, have problems regularly misunderstood by the pathologically benevolent westerners, spreads governance so thin that's it's concentrated in the wrong places, over all it creates increasingly more complicated systems and most complicated systems have more vulnerabilities.
A better system is a federation/confederation/alliance with laws. Having an international court really is the extent of globalisation helps more than hinders. Even the UN is one covered fuck up after another. It's just too difficult to do whatever they want to do.
>>72402286
Just. Read. This.
>>72403182
Wouldn't a nihilist think money is inherently worthless?
>>72400657
They're non-arguments. They're assuming that everybody is arguing for some sort of supreme universal truth. We're just arguing for pragmatism and our continued existence.
>>72403537
Only a college nihilist
>>72403537
He is making the claim the human nature disqualifies nihilism.
>>72398361
There was a phase called wealth redistribution where wealth was taken from one nation and used to create wealth in others. It really worked well until it became obvious that the nations that were poor to begin with were poor for a reason. They were lazy, corrupt, incompetent, and stupid.
>>72398361
It's funny how /pol/ keeps going after the OP for the cultural effects of globalism, but not the economic aspects and that globalist government cannot be decentralized (as extremely unlikely as that might be).
Say what you will about secret ruling cabals or one world government plots, the ineffectiveness of the UN and its predecessors, the failures of the EU and the abuses of TPP, the point remains that people who want to create any sort of global crontrol will try to create that sort of global control with the means they have available.
A world of Ubermensch seems to be /pol/'s ideals, and the Untermensch certainly aren't about to voice up and demand an equitable global federation, so how is Globalism by the few not an inevitability (barring a great global disaster anyway).
>>72400997
The Donor Class?
>>72398361
I would like to hear a supporter of globalism explain why he supports it.
The only reason I can see would be if you're a third-world ape man looking for gibs.
>>72400863
fuck off normie
>>72402037
>principals
Just teasing, bro. I agree with you completely. The secret to peace and prosperity is to encourage and reward virtue, and discourage and punish vice
Okay in general there wasn't a problem with globalization after WW2 because we had all the manufacturing but when that all moved away globalization is now a hindrance which is why we need tariffs to protect american products and get rid of fucking NAFTA and the transpashitic partnership.
>>72404206
Pretty sure Rockefeller and George Soros, the King Kike both wrote books about it.
>>72405509
oh shit i thought globalism was the same as globalization woops
>>72405574
It's a part of it
