"Whether the issue is trade, immigration or foreign policy, says Trump, “we are putting the American people first again.” U.S. policy will be dictated by U.S.
Honest to God, this is too good to be true. I remember bitching on /pol/ a year ago about how none of the republicns were really against free trade or immigration then Trump comes along and goes full nationalist. Its ike meme magic is real.
Read the article by based pat buchanan.
http://www.wnd.com/2016/04/at-last-america-first/
>>72384869
>Read the article by based pat buchanan.
even better:
read Trump's FP speech and tell me it doesn't read like Buchanan's writing.
The GDP Cult is going to lose their shit.
Pat was always based.
It's going to be aggravating to watch the neocon kikes shit on him when he dies.
>>72384869
Sucker born every minute.
>tfw trump called out "globalism" by name.
>tfw trump defended the sovereignty of the nation-state
>tfw trump literally said he what's to uphold western civilization.
...it's too good to be true.
Once again the Boomers want to put their own selfish desire ahead of the good of the country. What was the worst outcome of WWII: the establishment of Israel or the post war baby boom?
>>72386313
Goddamn this post makes my blood boil
>america down the shitter
>demographic suicide if we don't do anything
>impending financial collapse
>BUT HEAVENS FORBID MUH PENSIONS BETTER BE STABLE
fuck these cunts
>>72384869
Absolutely amazing article.
This will be the start of a new millenia.
>>72387129
God has taken note of them.
Holy shit
>>72387129
This the "Greatest Generation" and their progeny the Boomers are literally the worst batch of Americans to ever plague our nation
>Willingly went to war against based Hitler allowing themselves to be suckered by faggot cripple FDR into serving the kikes
>Changed America from a property respecting Republic to a Socialist Democracy
>Unlike the veterans of every other war in American history, these faggots felt they were now suddenly entitled to vote themselves endless pensions and benefits for their "selfless heroism"
This cancer has been eating us for a century, and its time to purge them.
>>72386313
Jesus fucking Christ. I've heard convincing arguments that the immigration crisis is 99% about pensions too.
>>72389958
>>Willingly went to war against based Hitler allowing themselves to be suckered by faggot cripple FDR into serving the kikes
You're a fucking retard holy shit , do you not know what a boomer is? Jesus Christ.
>>72390137
Do you know what the term "progeny" means?
>>72389958
hahhaahahah
they did a shit job setting up that education system too
>>72386313
Is there any generation more entitled than the boomers?
>>72390137
The children of WW2 veterans, aka "the Greatest Generation"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_Generation
The Boomers (BabyBoomers) are called that because after WW2 the veterans had so many children it was a "boom" of new children
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers
I specifically said " the "Greatest Generation" and their progeny the Boomers"
Was I wrong?
>>72390225
This
>>72390315
Twice as retarded as the first guy, and twice as self-confident. Not a great combo.
>>72389958
this
>>72384869
History has a way of producing the right man for the right moment
Trump will postpone the dissolution of the United Sates for at least 30 years.
Hillary will accelerate its demise by 5.
>>72384869
If Trump really wanted to put America first, he wouldn't be in favor of tariffs.
Why should MY prices go up so some uneducated fuck in Detroit can have a job that's gonna be replaced by computers in a year anyway?
Epic Donald Trump singing "Build the Wall" video right here. Watch it!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ewkemT2dkB8
...,,
>>72390643
>History has a way of producing the right man for the right moment
>Trump will postpone the dissolution of the United Sates for at least 30 years.
My bigger fear is Trump electing a Neocon like Rubio as VP
>>72390745
He is for tarrifs
>>72389958
The greatest generation were too young, the forgotten generation were in charge during the war period.
>>72386222
Seriously, I'm scared.
I almost want to cry.
It's like a soap bubble of sanity in a maelstrom of madness, can it really endure?
>>72390938
Exactly. Tariffs = higher prices.
He's literally making life worse for 99% of people so that the least-educated poor people don't have to learn a new skill.
>>72391063
Hope without hope.
>>72391153
>implying the least educated poor people don't make up 99% of people
Get fucked globalist.
>>72391153
Or that manufacturing will move to the United States, just like German and Japanese car manufacturers build factories in the United States.
>>72390745
Hey ass buckets.. stop regurgitating snake oil politician propaganda... learn how economics works. If product "X" is made in the USA at one dollar.. but China can do it for 98 cent after transportation costs.. you save 2 cents.. but NOBODY in the USA can get a job... it's better to make it right here in the USA for a full dollar, and then when everyone here has a job, prices will drop even lower than 98 cent AND everyone will have a job.
Only 2 billionaires ever ran for POTUS.. and they both said the same thing about this.
>>72391153
Learn how the economy works... stop regurgitating Bill Clinton and his bullshit that only works on sub-85 IQers.
>>72391679
>AND everyone will have a job.
prices may go up by a little but money economy will boom as the working class spends more of their money. Trickle down economics doesn't work when billionaire elites keep all their profit from offshore factories. Those billioinares spent it on Dubai, private Islands, other international investments
>>72391980
Exactly. Yet all these right wingers are regurgitating Bill Clinton's bullshit. They need to stop listening to the clintons and Ted Cruz.
>>72391475
If it's not being made in the U.S. that's because it's cheaper to make it somewhere else, which means that they can offer a lower price. If you force someone to make it in the U.S., you're forcing the thing to be more expensive.
>>72391679
That makes no fucking sense. If it costs $1 to make here, and $0.98 + $0.02 to make in China, why would it be made in China? No business is that stupid.
It's made in China because it cost $0.95 which means that it's 5 cents cheaper.
you're the same sort of idiot who thinks we can make minimum wage $15 and it won't make prices go up right?
>>72391910
Literally name a single economist who thinks that less trade means cheaper prices.
Why does supply and demand and basic economics stop at imaginary lines?
>>72392158
No... it cost 98 cent INCLUDING transportation.. go watch shark tank... investors told people to go fuck themselves because they refused to save a penny by making it in China.
>>72391980
How will making things more expensive stop that? All that's going to happen is that prices will go up, AND rich people will have tax havens.
Trump has not made a single promise about stopping tax evasion. If he was serious, he'd talk about stopping companies from going to the Caymans, not Mexico. (But he has so many companies there, he'd never dare)
>>72392243
How are all of you so dumb.. This is common fucking sense. Go start a manufacturing business, and maybe then you'll understand.
>>72392288
Well, I'm glad you at least know that.
How will giving more people a job make prices go down? It's going to make labor EVEN MORE expensive if unemployment goes down, which means prices go higher!
>>72391153
You do know that there will be factory jobs in the US with solid wages so that they could afford that shit anyway regardless of the price increase.
>>72392623
Great for them. I don't need a shitty factory job. Why should I pay more for them?
>>72384869
HEIL TRUMP
>>72386313
Nah, fuck your pension. You're the reason we're all in this mess in the first place.
>>72392559
What? if more people can buy a product, the prices go down.. the business owner doesn't need to make as much of a profit if he's selling more... and if he can't produce enough to keep up with demand... someone else will take his place.. It's capitalism 101
>>72392890
No, if demand goes up, price goes up.
Have you ever taken an econ class?
>>72392143
much of it comes from Milton Friedman who basically started the foundations of Globalism:
Here's how he is wrong on tariffs and Trump is right:
http://www.magic-city-news.com/Paul_Streitz_67/Milton_Friedman_s_Smoot-Hawley_Lie13239.shtml
>>72392243
Trump is for fair trade
>>72393094
>Trump is for fair trade
Nice meme. Completely meaningless term though. Fair trade is what the market will pay.
>>72392158
The Chinese government is subsidizing their own manufacturing industry and keeping the value of the yuan down by artificial means. There's nothing free market about them Ching Chong commies.
>>72393062
No.. prices only go up if there's a limited supply.. like petroleum etc... we are talking manufacturing.
>>72393230
>Fair trade is what the market will pay.
and Tariffs don't affect market prices?
>>72393094
Yeah I already know everything about tariffs and I know trump is right. This is why I like trump so much.. I honestly don't even care about immigration and everything else.
A Dramatic Reading of Pat Buchanan's Latest Column - "At Last, America First!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y63yMFSpSsA&feature=youtu.be
(Le Happy Merchant makes a few brief appearances)
>>72393294
>The Chinese government is subsidizing their own manufacturing industry
You mean like, literally every country in the world, including America? I don't see you bitching about American farm subsidies.
>and keeping the value of the yuan down by artificial means.
Maybe a few years ago. That shit stopped ages ago. Read the news some time, eh?
>>72393296
Supply and demand works both ways kiddo. Read a book some time.
>>72393389
By distorting the market, yes.
/pol/ has really gone full retard. What a bunch of rubes.
>>72393615
I don't have to read a book... I've been an entrepreneur my whole life. What you're saying is wrong. It's only true if there's a limited supply, it doesn't work "both ways".... if a manufacturer has to raise prices because of demand, it just means he can't keep up with production... which means someone else who CAN keep up with production will take his place.
>>72390582
>>72389958
Hey retard you do realize that the only reason you aren't a slave for the elite is because of the greatest generation right? Your grandparents/great-grandparents got the GI bill, went to university and their education enabled the post-war economic boom.
And even boomers aren't all bad, Trump is a boomer. I would guess when the general happens that Trump will win a majority among boomers. Just because a lot of them hold frighteningly cancerous views doesn't mean a majority of them are bad.
>>72391679
>he thinks cost to manufacture in China equals the US after transportation
If China, or other countries weren't cheaper to manufacture in, a lot of industries would have stayed in the US.
Importing good thanks to free trade usually means cheaper goods, do you really think buying fruits and vegetables from Africa is going to equal the US after transportation cost? Of course they don't, they will be way cheaper. But of course imported goods means lost jobs in America.
You basically have to weigh the pro and cons of free trade. You can make the argument that it's better to import some type of goods and then keep some type of goods to keep the jobs associated with producing those goods.
But the answer isn't "Fuck all free trade" or "Fuck all protectionism".
>>72393924
Then go raise tariffs in your magical wonderland of infinite supply. Keep them away from my reality.
>tfw best friend told me Globalism is a good thing and we should keep factories in China today
Tariffs and quotas will disrupt the market. Protectionism sounds nice but it has costs.
I'm still voting for trump though.
>>72393615
Libertarians will be lined up against the wall and shot
They are the capitalist version of bolsheviks
>>72394056
>autistic basement dwelling neet libertarian thinks he knows more than an actual businessman
Please kill yourself
>>72393817
le pol are le rubes
gtfb2/lereddit/
>>72394007
No.. It's idiotic to import anything into the USA.. it should all be made here. The USA is he biggest importer of hemp in the world... and we can't grow it here in the USA... how much fucking sense does that make. All laws are designed to fuck over the USA.. and Trump will change it.
>>72384869
It's Pat "The Tariff Sheriff" Buchanan.
Dude's always been the real fucking deal.
>>72394056
You're a fucking retard.
>>72394290
>>72394360
>>72394565
>ad hominems
I accept your concession, and humbly agree that I have won.
>>72391153
The US was built on a wall of tariffs. Ever since Reagan cucked the country the industrial base has been carted off to the third world.
Everyone knew free trade was bad in the 19th century. Britain advocated free trade because we were the first country to industrialise, and we wanted open access to underdeveloped markets, to undercut them and ensure we remained superior. If the US had never enacted tariffs your economy would've been gobbled up by Britain, Spain and France.
>>72384869
TRUMP/WALL 2016
>>72394585
No... your sub-80 IQ can't grasp basic fucking common sense business principles... you're regurgitating what you've been told... you have no grasp of reality.
>>72393962
>I'm not a slave because the gayest generation put this country into eternal debt (which I have to now pay off) so they could fight for the kikes, who profit off the whole system. In return they got to go to college, setting the precedent of "higher education for everyone" which is destroying the value of a college degree even as I type this response.
Right keep telling yourself that faggot.
>>72394781
Yeah, I sure can't wait to go back to mercantilism and believing disease is caused by miasma and bad blood.
>>72393615
This discussion isn't about American farm subsidies.
The yuan is kept artificially low. That is a fact.
>>72392687
Men with factory jobs means more white babies, which means less need for mass immigration to prop up our economy.
Individualism is just another way to fail at evolution.
>>72394781
Exactly... and with the dot com boom and low interest housing rates by the Fed in the 1990s.. over 16 million jobs should have been created... but only 7 mill were created... the rest were sucked out by NAFTA... and these fucking retards are praising Bill Clintons precious nafta.
>>72392687
You really can't pay an extra dollar for cheap American shit instead of cheap Chinese shit, so the profits stay in America and not in some chink's pockets?
Get out you fucking kike
>>72391031
Yeah, but who remembers the forgotten generation?
>>72391063
Oh, its a bubble alright, but it isn't filled with sanity, its filled with Trump's ego. (Nothing of substance, in other words.)
>>72390643
Like hell it does. Who was the right man during the Black Death? The fall of Rome? North Korea?
>>72395229
Stop projecting... The only thing without substance is your comment. Trump is right about NAFTA and TPP.
>>72391679
The issue is that with free trade you are exporting jobs, and when you export jobs, over the long run you are exporting purchasing power. In the short run it seems to be a good deal, thugs are cheaper to buy. What we are seeing now is that over decades, we are now paying the price, 90 million able bodied Americans are not working and have no prospects. This is starting to have a serious impact on economic growth. No money here to buy stuff means you have literally shot yourself in the foot. Many problems we are facing are signs of this, middle age white suicide, drug use increases, lower wages, etc...
There is a balance. Should we charge a tariff on everything, no, not at all. Some items will be better produced somewhere else. However, should we allow China to build the hulls of our warships? No. Should we allow the import of H1B workers when we have a surplus here of skilled IT workers (don't tell me there is not, they are being laid off)? No.
The concept of globalism that was idealistic was that we would raise the purchasing power of the world, which would be great for business. The problem is, China steals our designs and now sells as the lowest cost producer, locking our higher cost goods out of new markets. Has it improved conditions in the third world, yes, has it fucked America, mostly - the low and middle class yes, the rich, hell no.
>>72395514
And, it lowers white birthrates. 100 IQ white men can support a family in their 20s in some shitty mall job. They could on a factory job.
There is no point to capitalism if it leads to racial suicide.
>>72384869
what's wrong with free trade, you moron?
printing dollars is free, but the rest of the world has to work for them
>>72395514
Name one thing that should be made outside of the USA.
>>72395327
>Who was the right man during the Black Death?
Genghis Khan
>The fall of Rome?
Alaric the Visigoth
>>72394986
>he fell for the free trade meme
Consider that the "efficiency" gained by importing all of our manufactured goods benefits Asian workers and American capitalists at the expense of American workers.
>>72393062
This is right, but there was a wrench thrown into it, a short term one however, We made the price go down with constant or growing demand by moving production to a much lower cost area. This is what fueled the 90/00 consumer boom. Now it is catching up to us as our incomes stagnate we are losing buying power versus 2000. Will there be an equilibrium, yes at some point - the big question is what will the middle class in the US look like at that equilibrium. I estimate we will be close to the buying power of something like an Italian (generalized over the entire population of course).
>>72393924
In a globalized economy this is 100% correct, and you better believe that they can or will be able to do it for less. They don't have to deal with regulations and overhead/tax that developed nations have to.
>>72395085
>muh white future
Yeah, so no reason for any non autist to care
>>72384869
The silent majority have wanted this all along. Clever republican politicians have been able to play this tune for votes but not deliver. Finally someone like Trump comes along and makes them all look like poseurs.
>>72395962
why do you want to waste American work hours to do repetitive manual tasks all day? they are needed in other lines of work
and why do you oppose outsourcing environmentally toxic manufacturing?
>>72393615
Allow me to explain since he can't go two breaths without an ellipsis. When you move labor abroad, you deny the domestic market the income it needs to actually buy your products, resulting in underconsumption. In order to sell off the resulting suplus you have to sell for less than the "cheaper" manufacturing cost. This kills the economy. This is the situation we are in now.
Domestic manufacturing empowers the market to actually buy your products, which does drive up prices due to demand, but not beyond the buyers' purchasing power.
Tldr offshoring decreases the demand you're trying to meet, resulting in overinvestment
Captcha is storefronts, Google agrees
>>72397220
There's no such thing as a waste of work-hours when the unemployment rate is above zero you fucking mong...
I swear Hungary you piss me off sometimes
>muh free trade
The world isn't a magical place where the cost of living and prices are the same everywhere. Unlimited free trade (what the US has now) has hurt our domestic workers over the long run. You just can't compete with slave wages; it's absurd. The Brit here >>72394781 is 100% spot on. If we didn't enact tariffs, the US would have never become a prosperous nation. We would have been slaves to Britain.
>>72397399
recession don't last forever, housing bubble child
> unemployment rate is above zero
you'll never have zero unemployment in a vibrant and rich market economy, 4-5% is the lowest it can go and that's considered to be full employment
Old fag, old enough to have voted for Pat for president.
A shame so much of my life was wasted waiting for everyone to catch up. Feels bad man.
>>72398068
>>72394781
>>72395088
>Tfw nobody listened to Ross Perot 20 years ago when Globalism was slowly being built :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM_PthsFFEw
>>72399009
you're a retard.
>>72399135
he said some interesting things indeed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM8jfZTC6Mo
>>72399009
>>72399135
Reminder that Perot declined from politics due to death threats against his family members:
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1993-11-09/news/1993313025_1_perot-plot-death-threat
>Ross Perot jolted his supporters at a weekend rally by announcing that a "Mafia-like" hit squad was plotting to kill him because of his opposition to the North American Free Trade Agreement, law enforcement officials yesterday questioned the veracity of the anonymous, third-hand death threat.
>>72386313
>not working your whole life
Holy shit americans are so fucking lazy.
>>72384869
>shills always show up in massive waves whenever "America first" or "globalism" is mentioned
I bet unemployment has gone down by at least 2 percentage points by the amount of shills that have been hired because of Trump.
>>72386313
Lol these people don't even realize that their pension funds are kept afloat by the Fed and Uncle Sam artificially incentivising institutions to dump money on Wall Street . Its a house or cards.
>No word on the ills of government intervention there
Yet when someone proposes policies to curb parasitic international relations, these very same people decide to pull the "free market /free trade card".
Fuck you.
And even if the US pulled out of any and all trade - shit wouldn't exactly hit the fan. The US has a potential Labor force at least 50 million strong, metals and minerals ,radioactive materials, oil, coal and natural gas, huge swaths of farmland, graduates from the best universities in the world, capital and a means to distibute it, and access to and between the Atlantic and Pacific.
