Why do so many Republicans vote against their own economic interests in favoring of fattening corporate pockets ?
>>72380428
Not me. I vote republican to keep minorities away from my family
>OccupyDemocrats
Not an argument
>>72380554
Fpbp
If you want their votes so badly why don't you just stop trying to take their guns? It's unconstitutional and doesn't work anyway. Wouldn't that just be easier than trying to convince them of what their economic interests are?
>>72380428
wew lad
>>72380554
You would love Hillary Clinton
Does that image imply that the democrats would somehow bring the jobs back to the US?
>>72380428
That gun allows him to protect and feed his family
Maybe because they want to support themselves, not look for the government to support them.
>>72380428
Obamacare is shit, Liberal colleges jew their liberal students, Clinton and Obama love global trade and high taxes that fuck this man over.
>>72380428
Because losing all their money to taxes is also not in their economic interests?
>>72380828
Feed them what?? fucking bullets?
>>72380828
>feeding his family with gunpowder and lead
>>72380428
Because liberals love shitting on them for their beliefs, that's why.
Maybe if you stopped making redneck jokes and trying to take their guns. MAYBE they would vote for you.
>>72380428
why are there any white democrats? they want to screw you so pablo can bring his whole family in
and refuse to give you welfare because "its the current year "or just increase the affirmative action quota so your kids cant get jobs
Trump says he's gonna bring jobs back, manufacturing jobs from chyna and beyond the wall.
>>72380932
>>72380953
I know hunting is probably outlawed like everything else in Australia, but what's your excuse, Canadian?
>>72380932
>>72380953
Hunting you fucking retards.
>>72380428
Why don't the Democrats just drop the anti-gun bullshit and get his vote?
>>72380932
Delicious animals
>>72380964
> le anti white meme is real
Wew lad
well if the dems weren't nigger pandering degenerate baby murdering gun grabbers maybe they'd get the white man's vote
>>72380428
>Why do so many Republicans vote against their own economic interests
that's pretty admirable, takes a lot to put the greater good over yourself
Democrats were the ones that shipped jobs overseas (NAFTA). Allowed cheap illegal labor to replace American jobs, and encouraged companies to outsource tech jobs. Not to mention promoting H1B visas which are replacing American specialty jobs with cheap and half-assed work from poorly-educated Indians or Chinese. Anybody can afford college if you work hard enough, I didn't pay a cent between acedemic scholarships and various grants. Obamacare caused my mother's insurance premiums to skyrocket, and she passed away from breast cancer because she couldn't afford healthcare anymore.
Republicans aren't giving out free guns.
Of all the OD macros I see, this is amongst the shittiest.
>>72380428
all those problems are the left's fault tho
>>72381019
>If you kill your meal, it wins
>>72380953
>>72380932
People in rural America do this thing called hunting where instead of getting it from big brother gov. you kill animals yourself and eat them, you should try it sometime
>>72380428
You dumbasses realize the gun industry is a pretty huge employer in the US right?
>>72380428
both sides of the aisle have been fattening corporate pockets, saying one does and the other doesn't is absurd
>>72381060
It's typically less cruel than paying illegal Mexicans to run slaughter houses.
>>72381103
we have to be honest here and nafta was passed under a republican held neoncon congress
>>72380428
Neither party helped his economic interests since Clinton and all parties were globalist all the time.
>implying he qualifies for social programs outside of state run entitlements
>>72380428
As if voting for a democrat magic negro like Obama would suddenly fix everyone's problems...
>>72381149
>""""""People"""""" in rural America
>>72380428
Have you seen the Clinton foundations lit of foreign donations?
Pro tip: no one has
And she has all the bankers on her side you moron.
>>72380428
What's best for the rich is what's best for everyone.
>>72381214
I'd agree that it's a bipartisan bill.
But it was passed under a democratic administration which pushed heavily for it. Just like how a democratic administration pushed heavily for the TPP.
>>72380428
But they're not, based Trump will see to their needs unlike Shillary
>>72380428
How is Obamacare, a tax, in anyone's interest.
>>72380428
Republicans don't guarantee a gun, the Constitution does
>>72380428
pray 5 times a day
no pork
no dogs
no science
etc..
>>72381103
> things I don't approve of my taxes are "free stuff"
I don't like an overbloated military that intervenes with other countries shit but I don't call giving the military taxes for Drones MUH FREE DRONES
Conservasht logic
>>72381060
thank you canada. a clean deer headshot is ten times better than your average slaughterhouse. hunting should be the norm, partly as it would force everyone to own a gun and would help uncuck the nation.
>>72380428
not anymore
>>72380428
You nigger. Trump has said he wants to create incentive for our corporations to stay in America. That will solve most problems in itself
>72380428
stop bypassing my filter
>>72380679
Democrats still think gun ownership=more homicide. Sad.
>>72380932
>HURR DURR WHAT IS HUNTING
Australians needs to be fucking purged
>>72381253
It certainly cleaned up 8 years of Bush's retardation.
>>72380932
....yeah
>>72381019
He's probably some Hongcouver/Torontistan faggot who has never been outside of his comfort zone.
Same people that think Canada doesn't have any guns.
>>72380428
savior mentality, liberals think that they have everyone else's best interests in mind and can't fathom that it isn't actually the case so they demean others for holding different viewpoints than them
maybe they vote republican because they think republicans trying to bring back jobs to them is a more straight forward way out of poverty than liberals giving them free healthcare and college education which they would never take advantage of anyway?
>>72381333
clinton is crap. neoncons are slightly less crap. we can't win.
>>72381357
If you think /pol/ is a Cuckservative Fox News watching place then I don't know what to tell you
>>72380568
>>OccupyDemocrats
REMOVE YOUR THAT YOU IDIOT SHILLS
>could be /pol/ trolling /pol/
>>72380428
gtfo shill and/or idiot. No one is buying that the dems are for the poor anymore.
>>72380554
you could accomplish that goal at literally any time.
move to Idaho or some other small northern state with a population of like 10 .
>>72381357
The constitution requires the federal government to spend money on military defense. It does not require the feds to give money to lazy people.
>>72380554
FPBP
/thread
>>72381634
so your solution is to run away? seems pretty flawed
>>72381436
Signature strikes, more CIA sponsored regime changes, reinflation of housing prices, reinflation of the stock bubble, prosecution of whistle blowers, etc.
>>72380428
you mean the magic nigger didn't fix those things yet? curious...
>>72380428
>Implying it wasn't democrats who allowed NAFTA which took away thousands of manufacturing jobs
>Implying it wasn't democrats who kept encouraging unions to keep wages way too high which made American labor uncompetitive
Nice try though
>>72380428
Both parties support big corporate, fuck off.
>>72381139
had a chuckle
>>72381668
Keyword DEFENSE . Not military intervening dumbshit
>>72380428
I vote republican, where's my free gun?
> there is none because your source lies.
Hey retard learn about Cronyism, the history of big government, and some economics. The bigger the government gets with socialist policies throughout all of history has made the rich even richer, the poor even poorer, and a middle class that is non existent.
>>72381369
Did he really say this? No one would dare call out the globalist kikes in the 21st century. It would be a giant target on his forehead.
Please tell me this isn't some troll quote. He literally is Hitler 2.0 (and I mean that in a good way) if this is true.
>>72381369
Listen to this fucking speech man:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/04/27/trump_i_will_not_surrender_america_to_the_false_song_of_globalism.html
>>72380428
Democrats only think for themselves and what the government can do for them. Republicans think about what is best for their children and the future of their country.
>>72381762
true... but sanders doesnt by record and supposedly trump doesnt either through rhetoric.
in a country where anyone running 3rd party is effectively eliminated by simply running as third party, you should stand behind one of them. unless youre an anarchist, in which case who care what you think since nobody cares what you think.
>>72381940
Donald Trump is the expert on cronyism.
He's propped up more democrats than most.
>>72380428
> Why do so many Republicans vote against their own economic interests in favoring of fattening corporate pockets ?
The republicans are "feelers", not "thinkers".
They "feel" that gay marriage is wrong.
They "feel" that gun control is wrong.
They "feel" that anything Obama supports is wrong because commiemuslimnigger.
Etc., etc.
To them, feeling is more important than thinking. So they express themselves politically based on their feelings. And that means voting republican, because starting the 1960s, the republican party was specifically realigned to appeal to the feelers instead of the thinkers.
To them, the fact that republicans act against their economic interests is just an unfortunate side-effect. To them, it's much more important to get the social issues right than to get the economic issues right. That's because social issues are the issues that they can directly "feel". Economic issues are hard and complex and require a lot of thought, and so they don't register much as feelings.
>>72382000
youre a fucking clown
>>72380428
Still trying to peddle Obamacare as a good thing?
The Obamacare penalty tripled this year. Its going to be hitting the poor in this country HARD, who depend on their tax return to stay afloat.
>>72382089
Where are your scatter plots? Authoritarians feel that guns are scary.
>>72380428
>job shipped to China
What is Trump for 9000?
>>72381466
Daddy will fix everything.
>>72382245
Do you have one that also includes suicides and whatever else they count as "total gun deaths"?
>>72381369
This is an incredible quote. Even if he doesn't believe it, it's awesome that he said it. Absolute madman.
>>72382069
At least Trump is wanting to shrink down the size and scope of the government like abolishing the EPA and DOE. When you do that you shrink cronyism by limiting the amount of government power for sale.
>>72382343
I keep homicide and suicide separate because they are separate issues.
Before Trump it was and still is a two party one policy system, so didn't matter who you voted things just kept getting worse. As OP alludes to all those policies were passed because people didn't understand the consequences of it, or didn't care. But there is one thing they know for sure that gives them strength in deterring government, guns.
>>72380428
cause Murica. They believe the propaganda. They heard bout an Murican dream but they can't process the fact that those days are long gone just like most people's chance for a good job.
>>72382245
THERE IS A CLEAR AND OBVIOUS TREND HERE THAT GUNS MAKE PEOPLE KILL EACH OTHER
>>72380953
a fucking leaf. god you cunts are worse than the aussies now. just kill yourself achmed
>>72380428
The problem is globalization leading to deindustrialuzation and immigration. The left champions these two things. Republucans aren't much better but it isn't like the US has a choice or democracy or anything
>>72380428
Special snowflake affect
It's funny how conservatives try to pin that on liberals, but republicans are the official snowflake party. Their mentality is that you can believe and think whatever you want, because reality doesn't matter. You can believe it would be better to go back to the past You can deny climate change. You can be a racist. You can deny reality and the right will support you.
>>72382440
No shit, that's why it's necessary to create one that groups them together, so you can compare homicides to the inflated "total gun deaths", in order to see how dishonest methodology can skew these graphs.
>>72380428
Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.
>>72380428
this meme has to die.
democrats and republicans have the same economic "plan", they are both bought by the industries and will not change anything. not that it matters they are mostly powerless when it comes to the economy.
>>72382697
Denying the reality of African genius held back only by criticism.
>>72383169
WE WAZ NEANDERTHALS
>>72382224
And you can't spell, or present an adult argument.
I'm betting you went to clown school before he did.
>>72382430
But the EPA is god tier . I like breathing in clean air and having clean water to drink
>>72383364
But we actually wuz Neanderthals (n sheit)
Now whose denying reality?
>>72383566
Too bad they test on unwilling humans. Fuck them
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/11/13/epa-charged-with-lethal-experiments-on-hundreds-of-unsuspecting-subjects/#341b94a97513
Ghe problem with most people, is that they're gullible and believe everything, especially face value. Corruption has destroyed our nation, just look around, nobody is there to help you.
>>72380428
A gun is more important to me than any job or career.
>>72380779
Underrated and ignored question. Way to keep it real, underage pol.
>>72380428
>Why do so many Republicans vote against their own economic interests?
Why do you think you know their interests better than they do? Can you tell me what they value, what they enjoy, what they consider morally right and wrong, which means of pursuing interests are acceptable and which are not? More importantly, can you embrace diversity and do all that without passing any kind of smug bitch judgment?
On the metalevel, why do you elevate material interests above others?
>>72381430
try eating anything you hunt in australia.
I fucking dare you.
>>72380428
Cause republicans believe in working for your money.
>>72380428
Let's flood the country with immigrants to strengthen the job market.
>>72383862
> Forbes
>>72380932
>>72380953
Worst case scenario, if he has no cash, he can go hunt Deer and get some good Venison or something atleast.
>>72382245
>Authoritarians feel that guns are scary.
If you just pick individual issues like that, you will miss seeing the overall picture.
Look at all the issues, and look at them from a 10,000 foot overview. (That's hard, because it takes a lot of time to compile them all.) As you survey the massive landscape, you'll start to see the pattern emerge that shows many republican issues are predominantly viewed from the perspective of "feeling".
This "feeling" approach results in quick and simple "black and white" type of beliefs. The "thinking" approach tends to yield complex, nuanced viewpoints that take time and energy to explain. Examples:
Feelers: Gun rights are sacred and absolute
Thinkers: Maybe we should balance gun rights with practical considerations
Feelers: No gay marriage, it's fuckin' disgusting
Thinkers: Sexuality is complicated, maybe our laws should reflect that
Feelers: Trannie bathrooms? that's just fuckin' wrong
Thinkers: Sexuality is complicated, maybe our laws should reflect that
Feelers: Immigration? Fuck'em -- build a wall and throw 'em all out
Thinkers: Immigrants pay taxes and buy things, so let's consider that too
Feelers: Goddam niggers are ruining this country
Thinkers: Maybe we should be looking for solutions for their hurting communities.
The list just goes on and on, and it's quite a good idea to spend a few hours collecting a bunch of them and survey them all at once. You'll see some interesting patterns emerge.
One pattern that's particularly strong is the fact that the "feeling" approach is much faster, much easier, much more fun, much more exciting, and much more satisfying. So it's quite obvious why it's popular. The republican party has a bright future ahead of it, as long as it continues to appeal to feelers.
>>72384361
Well since you're a colossal faggot, here are links to the actual court documents that you won't bother reading. Just keep checking your twitter for all the news you need to know
http://eelegal.org/pm2-5-human-experimentation/
>>72384090
Yeah, I shot a kangaroo once (well, many times actually) but on this particular occasion, I was like...
> shoot roo
> see movement in its pouch
> ah god damn it, it has a joey
> get closer
> more movement in pouch, kind of erratic
> realise it is not a joey
> it is a yuge infestation of worms
> scream like a girl
> shoot it more
>>72384492
this guy just btfo /pol/
>>72384492
On average leftists care less about trade-offs and more about projecting their own virtue.
>>72380428
1. It is the Republican Donald Trump that wants to return jobs
2. College rates went up under Obama's nonsense.
3. A governor cannot "block obamacare" and besides if you can't fucking pay your bills you couldn't afford to buy health insurance, that means obamacare will deduct your tax return as a penalty for not buying it: it will not give you free healthcare.
>at least I have a gun
So the Republicans actually kept their word on this one! Seems like he made the right choice!
Watch Watson Red Pilling Serena Williams!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D3LNIsssXEg
>>72384706
He also btfo a massive butt plug collection on a regular daily basis. His favourite one is about 8 inches and is studded with rhinestones. This explains his torn anal lining but at least he has style.
>>72384492
> Feelers: Gun rights are sacred and absolute
They're constitutional, you're the feeler.
>>72380428
>OccupyDemocrats
Instantly discarded.
>>72380428
Voting someine who wants ti raise my taxes is to give Laquisha's and Maria's bastard children more welfare and free college doesn't help me.
Lowering my taxes; however, helps me a lot.
His job was shipped to china because of NAFTA. When will you niggers figure out its the democrats who want you poor and stupid?
>>72384492
>sexuality is complicated
>immigrants pay taxes
>hurting communities
>>72385510
whoops wrong one
>>72384492
>practical considerations
fuck off we have a million laws on the books already
either enforce them or repeal them
also I don't care about gay marriage and bathrooms, totally fine w/ me
and a lot of the problems black people face are a result of the government (clinton crime laws, a dependent class)
I'm not really a republican but I am voting for them this election.
>>72384492
Well yeah, when you frame everything like that it's gonna seem like they do things based off feelings
>>72385717
>the problems black people have are caused by the government
>>72384877
>On average leftists care less about trade-offs and more about projecting their own virtue.
That's an excellent point, and I didn't have time to include it in my massive post.
There is no question that feminists, SJWs, etc. are absolutely approaching issues from the "feeling" perspective, rather than the "thinking" perspective.
I did not mean to exclude "leftists" from criticism. They deserve criticism that's just as adamant as criticism against the "rightists". This isn't about left versus right. This is about quick-and-easy feeling versus the hard work of thinking.
>>72380428
Are they shilling for Trump now?
>>72380428
you'd think they'd look at this pic and think hmmm why does half of the country not agree with me, they know my idea is the good one right? This would benefit them I AM RIGHT
>>72380428
>OP thinking that voting democrat is in the best interests of anyone who has self-respect or belief in a meritocratic future
Thanks for the retarded oversimplified leftist meme, OP, I can always count on Occupy Democrats to be good for a solid laugh with their nutty bullshit.
>>72385892
>implying they aren't
I know statistically lower IQ etc. but gibsmedayts haven't helped them one bit.
>>72380428
>democrats and republicans both vote to move manufacturing overseas
>middle class voters as well as upper class voters want this
>it increases their purchasing power
>poor people can't into NAFTA, so they just know that they got a call from their union boss about their lost job
>These vile idiots then breed, with only table scraps to get them by, and raise a new generation of mongoloids to vote dumbocrat
>blame republicans for everything
You sound like an idiot. These poorer republicans want to preserve what is left of their pride by voting for a party that demands people work for what they have. Thanks for playing, commie.
>>72380428
If lefties would let us lill all the foreigners, we wouldn't have these problems.
>>72386073
if they didn't have gibsmedat they'd still be living in shitholes. The only thing gibsmedat does is make liberals feel better about themselves.
>>72386073
>>72386226
think of it this way:
under Jim Crow they lived in Shitholes = oppressing them they live in shitholes
under gibsmedat they live in Shitholes = helping them they still live in shitholes
there is no winning with them.
>>72380932
>so used to niggers using guns to rob people he thinks no one works for their own food anymore
>>72380428
> democrats support shipping jobs overseas
> democrats shouldn't have made an environment where you need college to get a good job
> blocked obamacare, good now he has one less bill to worry about
> implying its not better to be free than comfortable
Republicans are shit too but that pic sucks balls OP.
>>72386331
>democrats support shipping jobs overseas
Nope, republicans do when they think they can let businesses do whatever they want.
>democrats shouldn't have made an environment where you need college to get a good job
Democrats didn't do that, the progress of society did. We have new technology and better ways of doing things. 20 years ago you might not have needed computer literacy in your job. Now if you don't have it, you're fucked. That's not democrats, That's just reality.
>>72380428
how about wake up and understand they all are liars to benefit themselves
you need to find trustworthy people. keep trying until the right ones are found
parties mean nothing, only the actions of the inviduals is what you must look at
>>72381700
Yes. That is what white people do. That's why "white flight" is a thing.
>>72382962
Any leader who says this in Spain would instantly have my vote, even if it was fake. Either he's the fucking anti-christ or he's truly the God Emperor, but one thing is certain: he has to win if we want to know.
>>72380428
>Occupy Democrats
>actually believing outsourcing is the result of the nationalistic republicans instead of the cosmopolitan democrats
Americans stupider than I thought. They don't want you to work, like needy woman they want you dependent on them. They want "developing" nations to work at your expense so they can become "developed" nations, because this is a higher priority to these parties than your right to a comfortable life.
>>72384492
Liberalism is pure emotion, as such it cannot recognize secondary consequences.
Thinkers: "It’s time to quit worrying and learn to love the battle axe. History teaches us that if we don’t, someone else will."
Feelers: Guns scary. Only police should have guns
Thinkers: Trannies and bathrooms aren't really a problem, why try to add these weird mandatory tranny laws?
Feelers: YOU FUCKING CIS SCUM. HAHA your cousin fucking redneck.
Thinkers: A nation without borders is not a nation. Letting illegal immigrants stay is not going to end well.
Feelers: No one is illegal
And so on and so on. Because liberalism is just reactionary emotions you end up with endless hypocrisies:
Prohibition has never worked.
Outlaw guns.
Only cops should have guns.
The cops are evil bigots.
I believe in equality.
We need affirmative action.
Hyper ethnic-nationalism is bad.
I support Israel
>>72380428
Maybe because letting your vote be dictated purely by economic interest is pretty much egotism, materialism and greed.
Maybe demoshits should see how important guns are to people and stop trying to take them away.
>>72381139
underrated
>>72385166
>They're constitutional, you're the feeler.
/pol/ has a very international audience, so I oriented my post to them. That's why I suggested viewing both the rights and the responsibilities of gun ownership as a unified whole.
It is true that the USA has a special constitutional provision for the right to bear arms, so the USA needs to be looked at as a special case on this issue.
The USA has what I would call an "asymmetric" situation with guns. That is: The right to own guns is explicit mentioned the constitution, but the corresponding responsibilities of gun ownership are not. This leaves it to the legislature and the courts to figure out what those responsibilities might be. We're currently working through that process now, and, as you know, it's a highly political process.
Your viewpoint is on one extreme of that political spectrum. You are welcome and encouraged to express that extreme viewpoint. But, you will also find yourself doing hand-to-hand political combat against those who do not hold your viewpoint. Good luck, and godspeed with your political battles. May the best team win.
>>72380428
>I vote democrat to get all the negatives above but also no gun
>>72385946
Oh if we could only think like you please tell us, between bites of food, Mr. Kasich.
>>72381983
WOW! This fucking guy. I pray he means it.
>>72384492
I can agree with some of those, but for this one
>Feelers: Immigration? Fuck'em -- build a wall and throw 'em all out
>Thinkers: Immigrants pay taxes and buy things, so let's consider that too
People like to conflate illegal immigrants and legal immigrants into the same pile (because hurr durr no human is illegal) and then claim that people who are against illegal immigration are against immigration in general. Now yes, there ARE some people who hate all immigrants, legal or illegal. But most people who are against illegals consider the two groups separate, and don't actually want to get rid of ALL immigrants. Just the illegal ones.
>>72382962
my cock can only get so erect
>>72385134
Is there a university in Australia where I can learn to shitpost like you?
>>72380964
when the white democrats wake up it will be too late for them
>>72384492
>Feelers: Gun rights are sacred and absolute
>Thinkers: Maybe we should balance gun rights with practical considerations
gun rights are outlined in the bill of rights, which in fact IS absolute and sacred, and more importantly, composed by the most important thinkers in american history.
any "thinker" will understand that infringing on these rights in any sort of way sets an incredibly dangerous precedent that is entirely antithetical to the founding principles of america.
>Feelers: Free speech is sacred and absolute
>Thinkers: Maybe we should balance speech laws with practical considerations
literally the same line of logic. try and argue that that isn't tyranny. that's right, you can't, you freedom hating commie FUCK.
>>72387094
>responsibilities
How am I collectively guilty for owning a piece property that other might have similar piece and commit a crime with it? I have have to held accountable for owning the same piece of metal.
>>72384492
Feelers: Strawman of a legitimate claim
Thinkers: A non-absolute way of stating a dildoed claim
fuck off
>>72386865
Yep. You are highlighting the flipside to my post, which is that "feelers" are just as prevalent on the left side of the political spectrum as on the right.
I figured my post would spawn the kind of things you posted, and I'm glad it did.
>>72380428
>Why do people who don't earn much money want to keep more of the money they earn?
Why is this a problem for you?
>>72387763
Even the people that wrote the constitution said it should be malleable. That's why they made it so you can make amendments.
>>72380428
You forgot to add that the Democrats are bringing in cheap foreign workers who compete againts
>>72387094
> Your viewpoint is on one extreme of that political spectrum.
It's really not, it's the second amendment of the bill of rights. But please tell us how us plebians don't know anything and need to listen to you progressive ideas.
>>72381634
The cancer is spreading
>>72388107
malleable to an extent that does not infringe on the natural rights of humans
>>72387863
Oh fuck off back to pleddit. I remember my first graduate class.
>>72388412
Natural rights don't exist. If a lion starts eating a zebra, the zebra can't just yell "my rights!"
>>72388107
Yes trough a strenuous process not some knee jerk legislation because you saw an AR-15 for the first time.
>>72381436
Holy kek
>>72388610
Zebras aren't sentient either.
>>72388767
Ok, fine. If YOU are walking in the woods, and a bear starts eating you, if you scream "my natural rights!" nothing will happen.
>>72388836
So you're conflating getting eaten by a wild animal with a government trying to take your rights?
>>72388933
No, I'm saying "natural rights" don't exist and rights are something the government grants us and protects for us.
>>72388836
the bear would be infringing on your rights, and you would be entirely within YOUR rights to defend yourself
of course, in a cucked, disarmed nation, you would be unable to do so, and you would end up mauled to death. (only in a more realistic scenario, the bear would be a nigger)
>>72389038
If the bear doesn't eat, it dies and its rights are violated.
>>72381063
under rated question
>>72388107
Then call a constitutional convention to try and ban guns.
Oh wait. You can't. You're just a shrill political minority that has no real power because the American people are more than 75% pro gun.
>>72380932
>>72380953
Australia and Canada
Shitposters in arms
If natural rights exist, how come you don't believe they apply to illegal immigrants?
If they come from God, then even illegals have a right to a gun, and to self defense, and that the government can't come and take away their property or liberty.
If they come from the government, then the government is free to take them away from anyone, including you.
>>72389127
>Then call a constitutional convention to try and ban guns.
I never said I wanted to ban guns... you're retarded.
I'm only pointing out what the constitution is and isn't.
jobs were shipped away because of NAFTA & giving china most favored nation status.
which was due to bill clinton.
a democrat.
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>>72381305
I know ROSATOM is on there, they want the uranium in Oregon's mountains.
>>72389161
They come from the constitution.
>>72388610
OOO-key…Tarzan..for you but not me.
>>72389031
>rights are something the government grants us
no
the government doesn't need to grant "free speech." everyone has the right to speak freely. the government can only remove this right from you. if the government did not exist, you would still have the right to speak freely.
i'm not a libertarian by the way, even if i sound like one.
>>72381289
nah, I live in a major city and have gone 80 miles away, and have taken turkey, pheasant, durr.
>>72389412
So if the government wanted to change the constitution and take away guns, you would give them up freely?
>>72389161
No faggot they belong to citizens as in constitutional rights, not a christ-fag.
>>72380428
Sucking the tit of the government is not a viable long-term economic strategy, Jose.
>>72384676
well did you eat it?
>>72389482
No, as I said the government also protects your rights. Really, the only rights you have are the ones the government is willing to protect.
>>72389550
You realize "the government" isn't a shadow organization, right?
>>72380428
Wasn't it the democrats that shut down mines so people like this no longer have work?
>>72380428
>occupy demo jews
no
>>72389774
You realize jewish illuminati lizardmen rule the government, economy, and media?
>>72389642
Okay they why have rights if the government is the end all be all?
>>72381305
this is what she's going to go down on. abuse of her position with quid pro quo aka cash to the foundation for oil pipeline rights
>>72389642
they protect your rights but they do not GIVE you your rights (or rather, they SHOULD protect your rights, but often do not)
>the only rights you have are the ones the government is willing to protect.
untrue, i have the right to freedom of speech, as does anyone on this planet. there is no free speech in russia - that does not mean the right does not exist, it simply means it is not respected properly
>>72389774
Not an argument.
The government is currently the only organization that can change the constitution, which the constitution gives them full power to do.
(Also it says rights come from God, but fuck that right? Can't have everyone be treated equal in this country.)
>>72389978
Sure, but the government protects your rights from other people.
>>72389865
You getting overtime for this?
>>72380428
Simple strategy for simple people
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
1st post>>72380554
>>72390065
but "other people" don't have the power to infringe on my rights, only the government
>>72380932
We are not associated with Australia. We kiwis know how to hunt.
>>72390262
>but "other people" don't have the power to infringe on my rights
Are you serious? What do you think criminals are?
>>72390347
>Are you serious? What do you think criminals are?
synonymous with russian government
>>72390347
>Are you serious?
My nigga
>>72384492
>Feelers: Gun rights are sacred and absolute
Its in the constitution. We are the thinkers.
> Feelers: No gay marriage, it's fuckin' disgusting
children are objectively worse off in non-traditional family homes. Again, we are the thinkers.
> Feelers: Trannie bathrooms? that's just fuckin' wrong
Not a feeling, an objective truth. Trannies are mentally ill.
>Thinkers: Immigrants pay taxes and buy things, so let's consider that too
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OH THEY DO?
FUCKING SWEDEN CALLED
>>72380428
Why do so many Democrats vote against their own economic interests in favoring of fattening corporate pockets ?
They're the same party.
>>72380428
>I want black vote, lets call them niggers and told them that my policies will help them
>>72384492
It's more like
Thinkers: statistically guns have no major correlation with murder and they have many practical purposes
Feelers: they scary, ban them, I don't care about the stats I saw it on the news
Thinkers: homosexuality and transexuality are not things that are desirable for a society to encourage, so they should be kept behind closed doors
Feelers: I wanna sound nice, those poor 0.1% of the population that are trannies, let men into women's bathrooms or make bathrooms specially for that 0.1%
Thinkers: Immigration increases crime, undercuts wages, destroys culture, and creates communal distrust and the educated ones destroys their own countries from brain drain
Feelers :it sounds nice to let them in, I'm not feeling the effects yet, if you don't like it you're racist
Thinkers: niggers seem to cause problems where they go, let's let them have their own areas, while we have some areas in peace
Feelers: #segregationisevil, you have to take them into your community
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>>72391010
every fucking time
>>72386805
It was at the time legal, and not immigration but conquest. It wasn't the fault of European nations that the natives sucked at European warfare. And besides, a majority of them died from old world diseases without ever seeing a European.
>>72380428
>Why do so many Republicans vote against their own economic interests in favoring of fattening corporate pockets?
Your pictures answers your own question. Because Democrats are on the wrong side of the gun debate.
>>72391010
>Thinkers: niggers seem to cause problems where they go, let's let them have their own areas, while we have some areas in peace
>Feelers: #segregationisevil, you have to take them into your community
Extra hilarity for the fact that BLM basically wants to re-segregate the US so they can have their "safe spaces" away from duh ebul wite mans
>>72386805
dat map.
>confederacy
>empire
needs writing and administrative branch. that map just shows which tribe was most likely to kill you for trespassing in any given area. we wuz kangs for indians.
>>72391010
capped, my friend
>>72387863
Fuck I wasted my post doing something pretty much already done.
Stop being a pretentious fuck. Everybody knows that you can find irrational people in many places.
You're not presenting anything new other than the fact that you have no actual solutions except dancing around and going "lol, everything is so complicated".
It's not an epiphany that politics is complex. That's why it gets discussed and argued about.
>>72380953
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>>72389134
pew rew.. ta dew.......... ta da ti ta... tararorarerew...
shitposteeers in aaarms...
>>72380428
>My factory job was stolen by illegals, my McDonalds job can't pay the bills, I can't afford college and my Democratic governor just lobbied for more immigration.
>But I vote Democrat so we get more of this. We're not trying hard enough!
>>72380428
Same reason liberls will vote to destroy the economy because they want people to be forced to bake fags cake, or house Muslims, or let rapists use the women's restrooms, or claim the rich folks money is actually their money
>>72381289
$20 says you're some type of shitskin.
>>72380428
>Why do so many Republicans vote against their own economic interests in favoring of fattening corporate pockets ?
it was democrat legislation that sent his job to china you fucking cuck. Poor white people tend to be republicans because they became poor by getting FUCKED BY DEMOCRATS.
>>72382089
8/10 troll
>>72380428
the only candidate to speak up against China is Trump
a vote for anybody else from either side is a vote for status quo on that matter
>>72393944
>claim the rich folks money is actually their money
that last one makes sense though.
>>72380428
>Occupy Democrats
I'm convinced that page is a giant scam ran by people looking to make money off of the dumbest people in society.
>>72386712
Sounds like a French thing.
>>72380428
1.both parties ship jobs to china
2. liberals raise taxes
3. college is high b/c of the liberal student loan program
4. who is blocking Obamacare? obamacare is forcing poor ppl to buy HC that they can not afford with a high deductible
troll harder
>>72385510
this pic applies too desu
>>72380554
But they don't. They eventually always "Me too" the Democrats on racial issues.
>>72380428
>b b b but free stuff
Every liberal economic policy
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>>72390065
you guys have really hit on something but let me interject and hopefully clear things up. russia poster is right in saying we are all born into a state of pure freedom but he is conflating the freedom to do something with the right to do something. The anti-americuck poster is right in saying that natural rights don't exist (the only way they could is if they came from a transcendent higher authority ie God) but is totally wrong about rights being given by the government (like how the fuck would that even work?) Rights can only come from the people collectively. Or rather what they allow themselves the right too. Notice how the people in america really don't pay attention and so every year the government which is charged with protecting rights curtails them? One of the biggest mistakes of the founders was saying ''God given rights''. They shouldn't have had to appeal to a higher power. they should have just said we the people allow ourselves these rights bc we as sovereign beings demand it. we say it and it is so. its so much more powerful that way.
>>72386805
I seriously doubt any of those "nations" or "confederacies" were actually a single cohesive entity. Besides, they need to learn the difference between immigration and conquest. And most of all, even if the first two were not issues, I simply don't care. We're here now.
>>72398485
>I simply don't care. We're here now.
mexicans are saying this right now.
>>72387094
Shall not be infringed is pretty clear and the responsibility of gun owners is also detailed, we are to be ready to use them in the militia against all threats forgeign and domestic.
Your opinion is not equal. You cant debate inalienable rights guaranteed in the foundation of our nation. The only extreme viewpoint being expressed is that its ok to fuck with the bill of rights.
>>72380679
That's actually a fairly good point.
>>72380428
Because not everyone views life as a degenerate Marxist equation.
Despite rallying against capitalism the left is the most self centered and materialistic group of faggots.
What good is having an extra 4 grand a year if your son is a fag getting pounded by the local wrestling coach and your wife is cuckolding you with Jose the lawn boy?
Besides, liberals don't understand why white people hold guns or why they feel a need to be armed.
>>72380428
You're right I should vote Democrat, the party that gives free shit to illegal aliens. Kill yourself
>>72380428
NAFTA was passed under a Democrat president.
>>72386805
I'm a Native American and Democrats need to stop spreading this shit. My ancestors helped Europeans come here because it benefited us and they set up colonies here.
Maybe they'd vote for you if you didn't ridicule them, their culture, their communities, etc.
Besides, mass immigration is doing just as much damage to their jobs and Dems refuse to combat it, plus the vast majority of Dems are huge corporatists themselves, Bernie is the exception not the rule
>>72380993
When he does it with his own overseas companies ill believe him
>>72401298
>Besides, liberals don't understand why white people hold guns or why they feel a need to be armed.
Paranoia based on race-war fantasies.
>>72380428
Democrats do the same thing.
That's why we're electing a National Capitalist.
>>72384361
the fuck is wrong with forbes?
it's gonna be fun when the federal government stops subsidizing medicare in the states that did take the expansion, and the States get stuck with that ballooning bill for Wall Street insurance cartel corporate welfare.
>>72380568
Um, it kind of IS an argument.
>>72380828
That's the kind of thinking you get when you cross a human and an eagle: bird-brained.
>>72384455
Yep; and he can make gunpowder from coffee grounds and cigarette butts, since he has no cash. Or would you lend a man in need a cup of gunpowder?
>>72380428
>implying voting republican/conservative doesn't reflect my own poorfag interests
The only fucking reasons to vote for bigger government are if you either aren't employed or aren't college aged yet.
I am both, so you'd have to kill me before I vote against giving money to younger retards who also support everything I hate.
>>72384492
Best Yank post I have ever seen on /pol/ - maybe on all 4-chan.
>>72403191
*vote for giving money
>>72389626
Feed carcass to croc, come back in a month, shoot and eat croc...
>>72391168
But poster is not wrong, is s/he?
>>72380428
>raising taxes on businesses and giving them regulation that make them have to pay for health insurance for employees among other strategies of raising their costs will surely mean they'll make more job openings
>liberals