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Is something brewing /pol/? My happening sense is tingling

>socialist
>1000% inflation
>tons of oil
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>tons of oil
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>>72373930

Tons of low quality oil that requires good quality to be mixed with it to become a product.
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>>72373930

Oil overproduction crashed the price too low for Venezuela to produce efficiently. Now they are broke.
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>>72373930
Didn't they just cut the work week down to only two days to save electricity or toilet paper or something?
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>>72373930

Oil + brown people =
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>>72373930

>tons of oil
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>>72373930
>Oil in Venezuela
>Cocaine in Columbia
>Diamonds and gold in Guyana
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>>72373930
Oil is dead.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/04/27/t-boone-pickens-says-americas-oil-industry-is-dead-in-the-water/
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>>72374113
>>72374103
Nothing privatization can't fix.

>>72374021
>>72374392
Never let a good crisis go to waste
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>>72373930
Venezuela is a fucking joke. At least with Chavez is was a funny one.
Maduro is just some retarded bus driver that believes he can mimick Hugo, but not only fails there, because the country has managed to sink even further in these 3 years of government.Getting the basic needs if an odissey for them due to scarcity.
Also, he keeps parroting retarded shit about Rajoy just like Chavez did with Bush, although Spain is not interested at all in Venezuela.

TL;DR: It's a shithole bound to crumble sooner or after, if you burgers don't want to wait and prefer to invade them for shits and giggles count us in.
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>>72374601
>T-Boone
>Says oil sucks
>Buys as much of it as he can now that it's down

Trusting a billionaire?
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>>72374969
He sold off all of his oil holdings recently.
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>>72374907
From bus driver to a president... things you only see in utter shit tier nations.

Frankly no amount of political upheaval can fix issues so serious, but I expect we'll see some anyhow.
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>>72374601
>>72375071
Who will donate random things in Oklahoma and Texas now?
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>>72374126

Yeah. Venezuelans are so unproductive that the cost of keeping the lights on is higher than the value they produce. Thanks socialism.
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>>72375222
Luckily he already has opposition (last year for the first time, chavism lost the elections).

Unluckily everyone knows that isn't the end of it because the government does the impossible to invalidate everything the opposition tries to do. Having a mob of ignorant fanatics helps as well.

Most of what I can tell you is basically what appears on the news, fortunately I wasn't born in that mess, but every inmigrant that comes from there basically agrees with the "oficial" version.
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>>72374907

My dad manages a lot of money for these rich Venezuelan land owners and he tells me the country is pretty much fucked regardless of what happens.

Basically they put all their chips on oil and oil prices hit rock bottom. Now their entire economy which wasn't diversified at all is fucked. The government is incredibly inept and everything they touch goes to shit; go figure.

It's funny, my dad was telling me the other day about his trip to Venezuela a few weeks back and how depressing it was. There's a lot of good land in Venezuela, it's not just the oil that's valuable. They could turn a lot of it into farm land. Apparently back in the day those land owners he works for, use to own huge hectares of land in Venezuela which they used for grazing. They had a special breed of Texas long horn cattle that they brought over and was very successful in Venezuela. They use to compete with Argentina and the U.S. when it came to beef products.

Then the socialist cancer hit and now they are so fucked that no entrepreneurs would want to start a business there. The roads are shit, there's not enough rubber for tires, so they can't even get trucks to haul goods. It would be a logistical nightmare to start business there. The government can't fix its most basic problems because it's run by idiots who have no idea what they are doing and they are broke.
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>>72376983
Holy shit, I never imagined it was THAT bad. Just the expropiations, extreme criminality and the issue with national supermarkets was enough to make several documentaries.
How did this shit not collapse even when Chavez was alive?
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>>72377760

Oil prices where still high and Iranians and Cubans were helping them. Oil prices started to drop a couple of years after Chavez died.
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Venezuela is basically their own fucking fault. An interesting book, "Legacy of Ashes," is a very long account of CIA work there in "the dirty wars" of the 80s/90s but none of that has happened for a long time.
It's pretty amazing when you read in mainstream, respected sources what the CIA has done. Would never have believed it.
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>>72374113
maybe they should have diversified their economy
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>>72378223

lets dispel with this fiction that the government knows what it's doing. it has exactly no clue what its doing.
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>>72377760

>How did this shit not collapse even when Chavez was alive?

Socialism (at least the Bolivian kind) doesn't happen all at once. It happens very gradually until nothing work anymore. When Chavez was elected, he started his nationalizing spree. First it was with oil, but then it went to the farms and factories of various industries. This was given to cronies to maintain political power and to enrich himself. These businesses failed as these owners had no idea what they were doing. Legitimate business had to comply with new laws, crime, and corruption that was increasing.

Fortunately, oil band-aided a lot of these problems. However, this wasn't even enough towards the end of Chavez's life. The government expenditures were eventually outpacing oil revenues before he died. Maduro got left holding the bag when oil to decline in price.
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>>72378223

They did have one, but it is much easier to hire foreigners to get oil out of the ground for you than say running a productive factory that depends on efficiency.
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>>72374601
Dead for the time being. This man is in his 80s and is getting his wealth all gathered up so he can give it away. He's kind of out of the game and even mentions that in the article. So tell me if oil is dead then what happens in 2017 when production declines in the USA and there is another supply problem in the global markets? Prices go up and USA starts drilling again. We are already in the $40s and it wont be long until we get back above $60/barrel. This will always happen in cycles until we come up with a different energy source that is as efficient and useful as oil is.
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