So I haven't seen my younger brother since he left for his liberal as fuck university a year ago. It was the tail end of his spring break and he came to my place to visit me. What I saw knock at my door was my fucking brother dressed head to toe as a hipster girl, he had even had his ears and lip pierced and nails painted. My heart dropped when he said it was him and I went straight to my garage freezer for a bottle of absinthe I haven't touched in 2 years and left my door open. I come back to my living room and he is sitting on my couch with his legs crossed and was crying. I sat down with my soul departed and heard him ramble at me in a high pitched squeak for about an hour till I told him to fuck off forever.
He is staying at a local hotel till next week. What the fuck do I say or do to bring him back to reality?
anyone? help
>>72280993
Convince all his friends in real life and on social media to tell him he isn't a woman. No more positive attention coming to him for being trans, no more special snowflake status. He'll come back to reality fast.
>>72281162
He abandoned all his old friends when he left for school. I don't know anyone from his new life. I want to know what I can say or do to fix this.
>>72280993
>I went straight to my garage freezer for a bottle of absinthe I haven't touched in 2 years and left my door open.
are you a goddamn alcoholic what the hell. get a hold of yourself.
>>72280993
Just post which hotel room, I am sure anon will take care of him.
As much as it disgusts you you have to be there for him. Even if you're reminding him how stupid he is the whole time if he has no friends the worst thing to not have any family either.
>>72281333
I haven't touched it in 2 years numb nuts, when I bought it was when my opa died and he was my best friend.
>>72281410
I have more family, but he is my brother and this shit is totally not acceptable. I am not going to have him soil the family name for this nonsense.
>>72281423
opa = olivenigger for grandpa, right?
You should just try and lay the guilt heavy on him. He'll either kill himself or he'll change.
>Do you think grandpa would want to see what you've become?
>I mean seriously, thank god grandpa died before you literally emasculated yourself
>Grandpa didn't [grandpa stuff] 70 years ago so you could grow up to be a fucking tranny
along those lines
>>72281518
>olivenigger for grandpa, right?
Austrian you retard, white, blonde, my opa was a U boat navigator.
>>72281263
Unless you can somehow convince his friends to tell him to knock it off, I'm not sure there's much you can do.
I think the best advice I can give is to beg him not to get the sex-change surgery. Once that happens, there's no going back.
>>72281508
I'm not saying to make him your gf.
But no ones proly reacted the way you have so as his brother its your job to get some sense into him
The obvious solution is to fuck the degeneracy out of him.
>>72281518
>>72281581
germans use it aswell
and what the hell is an olivenigger? a greek?
It's just a phase
I thought I wanted to be a vegetarian in middle school
Then I really wanted a burger
Ask him why he thinks he's a girl.
>>72281608
I can't beg him but I want to approach him with all ammunition I need to unfuck his brain by the end of this week.
>>72281646
My mom is accepting but she is also a cunt and a dyke who I haven't seen since I was 15.
>>72281701
either that or italian
>>72281754
of course a fin of all people would want to be a dickless vegetarian
>>72281783
Then what?
How'd you get your hands on a bottle of REAL absinthe, OP?
And why didn't you touch it for 2 years?
>watching porn in middle school
>click on gay porn
>get a boner
>oh no...
>pray to god to not be gay
>bargain that "i'll be a nerd if I dont have to be gay"
>be a nerd for the rest of my public high school career
Everything turned out fine!
>>72281881
Bevmo sell it, duh
>>72281754
but you didn´t wore a dress or thought you needed to cut your dick off.
>>72281866
weird but plausible
Look man, just remind him, in the most respectful way possible, that 70+% of gender dysphoria doesnt last into adulthood. You NEED to be there for him. It's probably just a phase. He is your brother for fucks sake, you guys are eternally bonded by blood. Sit and have a calm conversation with him and try to explain your views.
>>72280993
>Ditching out on your family
Do nothing. Continue telling him to fuck off. It will be harder for him, but he is much better off without you in his life
>but my family member made choices I disagree with!
Welcome to free will.
You're just someone abandoning your family. That's the end-all, be-all of it.
>>72280993
You tell him that he's going down a destructive path. You give him facts, statistics, and the truth that being trans will only end with him being miserable and swinging from a rope in a couple years. But you need to be ready to cut him out of your life completely if he doesn't listen, because despite all the compassion in the world, someone like that will only further poison your life and drag everyone down with their bad decisions. I know that sounds harsh, but you can't enable those delusions. I'm coming from a place of sympathy and experience, so I know it's not easy, but true love isn't accepting their bullshit and idly standing by while they ruin their lives.You also have to accept the fact that he might not listen to you as well. You can't help someone that doesn't want help. But you should also welcome him back if he comes to his senses, because he'll need all the help he can get.
I'm sorry, OP, I hope things work out for you.
>>72281872
Start punching him, slapping him, yelling at him and kicking him until his inner maleness resurfaces to fight you in combat. Then when you are both bloodied on the floor, he will recognize that his fighting spirit could have only existed because he is a man.
>>72280993
I doubt you're telling the truth, but in case you are, did he ever show signs of being a faggot?
>>72281101
Convince him that he's a LARPer.
>>72281798
You have to at least convince him not to get surgery. As long as he hasn't actually mutilated himself, there's still hope.
I'd say talking to him about how expensive the surgery is, and how many people who get the surgery often feel worse than they did before. Anything to convince him surgery = bad.
>>72282078
he kinda is
>>72281990
But if I don't stop him then everyone will pander to his will and he will continue to be a fucking degenerate. I don't want people holding his choices as a bad light on me. I had a friend get fired from the tire shop for his brother being gay.
>>72281968
sources so I can study?
>>72282080
Hormones too. It's not as bad as surgery but he'll basically be paying through the nose to fuck up his body irreparably.
>>72280993
Get some testosterone injectible or hell even pills of proviron and tell your brother if he tries taking the test first and doesn't snap out of it then you'll support him in his transition. Being a fag is a test problem nothing more the test will fix him 100%
>>72282080
This is a good answer.
>>72282131
just google some, I saw a bunch of info in another thread but I dont have it open anymore. it was from a .gov site too.
>>72282131
>I don't want people holding his choices as a bad light on me.
And this is the first time you said something honest, in the thread.
This is you not standing by your family because you are worried about how they make you look.
Your stance is about one thing, and one thing only: you are a coward.
Dubs say ask him for nudes
>>72281518
>Grandpa didn't [grandpa stuff] 70 years ago so you could grow up to be a fucking tranny
i don't know why but i laughed so hard at this
>>72282080
He has been on hormones for the entire year so he already has massive life changing features like breasts and wider hips and big cheeks. I want him to quit school and work with me in the quarry so he can man up.
>>72282051
Never, he was the most masculine guy I ever knew before he left for school.
>>72282029
That actually makes sense but I probably would get arrested if I did that.
>>72280993
You should fuck your brothers boipucci
>>72280993
>only 6 to 23 percent of boys and 12 to 27 percent of girls treated in gender clinics showed persistence of their gender dysphoria into adulthood
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25231780.
>>72281263
>I want to know what I can say or do to fix this.
nothing, just disown him, it will be easier for you when he dies of aids
does anyone actually have any sources at all I can use? all the ones I am finding are pro transition
>>72282131
He doesn't really want to be a woman he just wants some cum dumped in his bumbum.
He has already tried the bumbum cums and he likes it so get used to it.
>>72282366
he is 21 numb nuts
>>72282367
god damn it, I don't know if you are right
I should just distance myself, sell my shit, and move to Montana
The most triggering part of this is
>keeping absinthe in the freezer
What the fuck is wrong with you
>>72282470
>Calls someone numb nuts who tries to help him
Lol just fuck off you faggot, your brother should be sucking black cock in no-time. Like a good little bitch boi.
>>72282291
so what? get arrested for your brother if you love him.
being arrested =/= getting butt raped by tyrone in prison
>>72282470
Are you a fucking Aryan or not? Leave it to an American to forsake the sacred bond of kinship. Your brother is still savable. The Aryan gods gave us gifts, among them is showing us the importance of kinship. There is still hope. Imagine if you were in his situation.
>>72282291
>On hormones already
He's fucked. If he's been taking hormones for an entire YEAR, irreparable damage has probably already been done to his body. It's kinda like the equivalent of smoking crack for a year.
But there is still a glimmer of hope as long as he retains his genitals. Convince him not to get the surgery, then try to get him to stop taking hormones. It fucks up your body really bad.
It's maybe not the right thing to do, but in your scenario I would just tell him to either never speak to me again or cut the tranny bullshit and go to a therapist. Don't be a pussy about it
>>72282529
Right? Good way to ruin an expensive liquor
>>72282660
Do you think taking testosterone fucks with you're body in the same way.. i'mm askin for a friendddd..
>>72282291
Men dont get wider hips
Theres no future in being trans, even in the worst case scenario liberal cucktopia, these people will always be seen as freaks. Doesnt matter how much people support them, the disgust will still be there when they turn their backs
I think he may be gone OP, dont see aomeone coming out of this
>>72282842
Dont take testosterone or steroids, you retard. Just start lifting and eating big if you want to get big.
>>72282954
But i deadlift 550 bench 380 bench and 510 lbs squat i needs too get bigger
My friends brother did this. Went from being a based nerd before he went to college in Washington. To being a whiney trans feminist like the worst people of tumblr nerd. Bitches about everything being sexist. Claims my friend is sexist because he didnt like rey from starwars. Spouts some crazy shit like the government is murdering trans people or somthing. Constantly emotionally unstable. Shit is crazy.
I have 2 siblings who are both trannies and let me give you the low-down you won't get from anyone here because they don't actually understand what the fuck they're talking about:
Inb4
>It's a mental illness
>pills
>therapy works
You aren't going to chase it out of them. You aren't going to shame it out of them. Therapists/psychologists are not qualified to deal with this issue; they have to see a specialist for gender-identity issues.They will probably have to see an endocrinologist to measure their hormone levels to see if maybe hormones are the reason they feel the way they do. If the hormone levels are normal, then they are a legit tranny. Telling them over and over, whether a therapist or not, that they're
A) A hyper homosexual male who likes to roleplay
B) Going through a phase
That stuff doesn't work, and it's not true. It doesn't take an SJW to acknowledge what science has thrown in my face despite myself, it takes a realist. You're in denial like I was when I thought, insanely, "maybe it's a phase!" nah, gender identity exists outside genitalia and chromosomes sometimes. Humans are complex, and mistakes happen during birth. That's one of them.
You will get through this, regardless of what happens. But I'm warning you, as much as I love /pol/ this isn't the place to be because nobody understands a thing about trannies and gets all their information from echo chambers or tumblr.
>>72283047
>Calling people sexist
>Transwoman
Is he trying to troll real women?
>>72282842
Depends. Is that friend a man or a woman, is that man (if it is a man) suffering from low test?
If it's a woman, obviously yes it's going to fuck with her body in similar ways. If it's a man, you can overdo it and just become a test monster borderline neanderthal but obviously it will be less damaging to a man than it will be to a woman. If it's a man with low test he needs some of that shit in him asap.
>>72282291
>Never, he was the most masculine guy I ever knew before he left for school.
Better beat that faggotry out of him, then.
Or at least have him explain what made him go insane. Maybe you can pinpoint what sent him off to faggotville, and try to salvage whatever's left of his manhood.
>>72283041
SS + GOMAD
>>72283041
>Lies: the post
>>72283041
Fucking mutant.
HOW MANY SCOOPS ARE YOU TAKING?
YOU GOTTA EAT BIG TO GET BIG
CMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
>>72283110
This guy actually has a point.
tfw no qt transbro to protect
ur a fag OP
>>72283110
>I was incapable of saving my siblings from their delusions so I've come to accept them
lmao what a failure of a man
>>72283326
>>72283326
Fucking.
>>72283170
Oh shit you have just made me realise years ago i was a /fit/izen and now i'm a nazi what happened
>>72283229
No he doesn't you fickle retard.
>>72280993
So this is what happened when I asked satan to cure me of my transgenderism...
Hehehe now I know where it went
>>72283249
>implying anybody on /lgbt/ would ever be of any help in trans issues.
>Not fucking your brothers boipuss puss raw
What are you fucking gay?
>Not fuckin your kin
>Nothe sliding your cock down your bros throat until he can lick your balls
>Not eating out your siblings ass
>Not Cumming in your brothers asshole
>>72283401
Even if most trans are a phase, there's still a few legitimate ones.
>>72283405
>>72280993
It's actually an issue that develops in utero. All modern research points towards it being an exposure to the wrong hormones (produced by the mother) while developing the psyche.
Basically, it's because the mom had some sort of hormonal imbalance during the pregnancy that made it difficult for her to either produce estrogen (XX chromisomes) or testosterone (XY).
It's just a part of them. You would likely be a similar person if you had tits and a pussy.
>>72283334
>incapable of shaming my siblings from their legit natural inclinations. I don't understand this issue at all but I know exactly what I'd do
What would you fucking do? Stab them? Fuck off.
To the original poster, you have to take this issue seriously, and people on fucking /pol/ don't give a shit about your sibling, brother, sister, whatever. They just want to spew about how being a tranny is degenerate. They don't think of you, or your sibling as a human. This is a fucking serious issue to you and to these people it's a shame, a joke, but above all they don't understand a fucking thing about this. It's not reality to deny that mistakes, including neurological mistakes, happen during birth or in the womb. Maybe being a tranny isn't pretty or whatever shit but at least remember this is a real human you're talking about.
>>72280993
>dressed head to toe as a hipster girl, he had even had his ears and lip pierced and nails painted.
>>72280993
>he is sitting on my couch with his legs crossed
>>72280993
>him ramble at me in a high pitched squeak for about an hour
>>72283524
Nah, some are just more delusional than others.
The most delusional of them should be kept in a mental hospital.
>>72283401
Nice argument. Insert coin, try again.
>>72280993
transfag here
It's ok he'll leave you and your family and one of two things will happen
1. he'll become a miserable hon and an hero
2. he'll get swept into affirmative action and have a good life probably making more money than you do
>>72280993
>. What the fuck do I say or do to bring him back to reality?
Nothing, let him be or lose a brother forever.
OP did he have any trauma, like getting molested or anything? It is likely a mental illness issue or hormone imbalance. If he didn't show signs earlier I doubt he is a gayfag for real unless he was hiding it well. There's probably not much you can do, but I feel for you man that would be embarrassing as fuck to have a family member that lost the plot that badly. Either accept him or not at all because if he has the balls to come up to you in drag he likely wants it to stay that way or he wouldnt have come up like that at all.
You did the right thing, OP.
It's either a phase or a mental illness. Either way it shouldn't be encouraged and should actively be discouraged
>>72280993
Just gas him now. He serves the kikes and their agenda, so he's done.
>>72283524
Doesn't make them any less mentally unstable.
>>72283618
Certainly wouldn't start calling my brother "sis" like a fucking ultra-beta-mega-cuck
LMAO FAGGOT
>>72281990
You should not give into the delusions of the crazy
What world do you live in where you think that's a good thing?
>>72282899
This.
People are supportive of trans people the same way they're supportive of downies, they do it to stroke their own ego but they don't see them as actual people.
>>72283629
>let them rot in a mental hospital
OP - this is what people here think of your sibling. And you take their words seriously, without any fucking exposure to the reality of trannies? It's just edgelords. No real arguments, suggestions, or perspective.
>>72281581
>>72281701
I always associated it with Greeks
>>72281581
Don't get emotional toward me, it was a simple mistake on my part. You're not like your brother...are you?
>>72280993
>brother
You mean your sister, right OP?
>goes to any jewniversity
There's no coming back. Get the ovens pre-heated
>>72283817
Would you tell someone with schizophrenia that you can hear the voices too?
>>72283797
Cool story bro. I wonder what you'll be doing when your sisters are being raped by Ahmed? Wait, what are you doing about that now?
LMAO FAGGOT
>>72283943
False equivalence. They aren't nearly the same thing. Try again.
>>72280993
Papa Hitler said faggots had to be gassed.
>>72282272
Oh get fucked. Can't worry for a family member be an array of reasons?
Convince him that transitioning is not the way to cure his gender dysphoria. Bring up that fact that he is INJECTING abnormal and alien hormones into his body. Because it is not a matter of what he is feeling in the head, he has to take care of his body too. Really emphasize the difference between physical needs and emotional/mental needs. He is throwing off his natural chemical balance in his body, by forcing his body to intake and ingest opposite sex hormones. This has also been known to cause mood shifts and irritability. This is NOT what was intended for his body. Let him reevaluate chopping off his penis, and really take a look at the medical technicalities of it.
Source: http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2008/11/dangers-of-excess-estrogen-in-the-aging-male/page-02
>>72281896
underrated post
>>72284066
Gender dysphoria is an actual mental illness. Please explain how it's any different than depression, anxiety, or schizophrenia.
>>72283817
OP - this is how much of a faggot you'll sound like if you take this cuck's advice. Did you come here for advice like this, the kind of advice that tells you everything's fine and there's nothing to be done?
Don't listen to beta FAGGOTS like this, they'll make you accept a life of accepting peoples delusions on the daily. No real beliefs, convictions or pride.
>>72283752
this, couldnt have said it better. thanks anon
Healthy young male goes to university, gets pumped with massive dose of liberal propaganda, doesn't feel good and changes - "GENDER DYSPHORIA". Many such cases!
>>72280993
Check if her asspussy is nice and clean.
Then fuck her like the lil bottom she is.
>>72283110
So your siblings have had brain scans that prove they have abnormal developments?
Please trannies are like fucking 10% of the lgbt community
In the entirety of America only like 5% of the population falls within the lgbt crowd
I think you can do the math
The truth is his brother is going through a phase brought on by the cancer that is modern universities
He probably smoked some pot one day and thought "I sorta feel like a girl" and then told a friend who pushed hard towards this path
People are much more malleable than you think
>>72283817
I wouldn't hate trannies as much if they just submitted to the fact that what they're doing is purely a fetish thing and stopped trying to make it a valid lifestyle. Even if you truly believe you were given a bum deal by the forces that be and you think you would have been happier as a chick, that's no reason to mutilate your genitals, fuck with your body chemistry, and demand people see you as something you aren't. We're so quick to stomp out all other delusions, why do we enable this one?
There's a trans guy that reversed from being trans after years and years. Pretty sure he works trying to rehabilitate trans people now. He was pretty hardcore, surgery and all. The guys name was Walt Heyer and he has a website, might help. http://www.sexchangeregret.com/
would you guys hate me if I said I was the brother who was trans and my brother told me to get the fuck out and I want help without actually outing myself on pol as trans? the help you're giving is still for a valid reason though and I do want to get well
>>72283679
He was probably perfectly well-adjusted before going to University.
It's almost becoming a phase people go through because we've coddled this mental delusion.
>>72284531
Don't forget the "die CIS scum" girl who later accepted that it was all just a phase and is now happily CIS taking a dicking like the real woman she is.
>>72284593
this nicca just switched up the whole game on us
>>72284593
10/10
>>72284593
I would laugh because I got satan to give you my mental illness
Thanks for taking the fall buddy.
>>72284091
How do you "cure" it when someone's brain is a female's brain, in male's body? Morphologically, functionally, neurologically. Do you remove their fucking brain?
>>72284152
It's not a mental illness. It's a condition. It's like being inter-sexed. Many times there are parts of the brain that are shaped like the opposite sex's brain. So.. how is that a mental illness when it's morphological? Does depression have its own shape in the brain now? lol
>>72284156
kek how many trannies do you actually know/did you grow up with? Do you get all your information from /pol/ or did Tumblr trannies leave you bitter? Buzzwords like cuck and faggot are nice to fall to when you don't have an actual productive word to say but shaming me. What is your actual, peer-reviewed recommendation again?
>>72284416
They are absolutely females. It goes beyond desires or appearances. Actions, behaviors, everything is female. How do you cure something that overarching? Seriously, tell me, I'd have loved to know 10 years ago and I think you sound like a bank of knowledge on the subject, not just grasping at straws.
>>72284452
It's not a fetish thing, and I've only ever heard the term "autogynephiliac" which is bullshit and only used as coverage if the tranny happens to be a male-female who is attracted to females. You're not with reality if you deny that being a tranny isn't binary are pretty but it's not a fucking fetish. Top fucking kek you're ignorant.
>>72284593
what a tweest
>>72284066
Except that it is
They are both fucked in the brain
Studies have proven this
It's also pretty fucking rare and comes with a multitude of other disorders.
Of course they'll tell you it's all their gender dysphoria thats why suicide rates are high even among the fully "transitioned". They think cutting off their dick or surgically attaching a penis will fix their life but it doesn't and then they realized they're even more fucked up person than they thought and nothing will ever fix and then they kill themselves.
Don't buy into the bullshit that these people are normal.
>>72284593
Hmmm..., the post
>>72283689
The mental illness his brother is suffering from has already taken him away from his family.
>>72284593
...
Geez OP, ambushing us from behind.
>>72280993
still your brother you fuck. i've lost 1 and 2 are dying slowly in poverty. you don't know hell. hell isn't aint a dress an ears.
>>72284738
its okay spartan anon, you will get better, run and don't be like me
>>72284593
Either kill yourself or rectify your fucking mistakes you faggot.
BE A MAN.
YOU MUST BE AS SWIFT AS A COURSING RIVER
BE A MAN
WITH ALL THE FORCE OF A TYPHOON
BE A MAN
WITH ALL THE STRENGTH OF A RAGING FIRE
MYSTERIOUS AS THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON.
>>72284593
so what are you gonna do now based on the response we gave you?
>>72284757
"studies"? Where? From what year/university/source?
>don't buy into the bullshit
Cool where did you get your information again? You seem like a knowledge source not just a bitter person on /pol/.
>>72284835
I will take advice from anyone except a scumbag Chilean
>>72284897
flush my hormones and hit the gym I guess
>>72284807
YOU MOTHERFUCKERS HOW DO YOU KEEP FUCKING DOING THIS
THIS ISNT FUNNY ANYMORE
>>72284945
REALLY? WERE SO PROUD OF YOU ANON!!!!!
>>72284740
You seem to be under the assumption that their only problem is their gender
You are wrong and you are why trannies have such a high suicide rate even after full "transition"
Besides thats not my point
The chances that his brother is legitimately ill is pretty small
The fact that he's cut ties with most of his friends from his previous life is also a red flag
Not to mention him showing up without telling his brother about his situation
I guarantee someone put him up to it
>>72284945
seriously? that's it? that's all it took? somehow i don't believe you...
>>72284740
LMAO this faggot is STILL trying so hard to sound like an intellectual when everyone here knows he's doing nothing but shilling for trannies to make up for his own failure to save his siblings.
"I couldn't save my siblings, so they must have a legitimate orientation"
Nah you're just a fucking useless inarticulate beta who couldn't convince a pregnant mother to escape a burning house.
>>72284945
So you're either a troll, or an idiot, if you ask pol for advice topkek but you're not a real tranny. Advice: stay away from echo chambers like Tumblr and pol.
>>72284994
They don't have a high suicide rate after transition. Are you citing that study from 40+ years ago at John Hopkins university by the kooky professor who nobody takes seriously anymore?
>>72285076
How would you save your siblings again? Now, try to tell me without buzzwords and I'll give you a pony, kid.
>>72284898
>studies
I'm not going to pull that shit up just to convince you
Go ask google
Better yet ask tranny central on this site >>>/lgbt/
What you think they aren't a shit ton of trannies on this site? Please this place is like fucking heaven to the mentally ill of all kinds
>>72284740
There isn't a clear definition of a female brain. There are brains that tend towards areas associated with females but they aren't female brain anymore than a man with moobs means he has a female body or a female born with wide shoulders has a male body
there's drugs out there that apparently work to stop people having temptations to cross-dress and feeling like a girl. Can't remember the name of it. I'll look it up , i think there was a case study done in the 50's or 60's
>>72285126
Not an argument :^)
>>72284945
This. Also, hang out with other men. Just try to be as "normal" as possible.
Shooting ranges are a great place for male bonding, btw. If you have the money for it, it's a worthy hobby.
>>72283110
>Y-you guys are mean.
>you guys just don't understaaaand. :(
Fuck you.
Fuck your `therapists`
And fuck you enablers
You need to lay on the shame, the guilt, and the hate. Coddling wont fix shit. Fuck his feelings, this is your brother you're trying to save.
>>72285126
>they don't have high suicide rates
Okay then what are their suicide rates
Go ahead I'm sure they're really low
Everyone knows trannies are normal and have nothing wrong in their brain
>>72284901
:^)
>>72284740
>How do you "cure" it
well certainly encouraging people to actually live like this is not a cure
truth is that there is no cure, if you go trans you are doomed to a life of pain and paranoia, and theres no going back
>>72285145
>Educate yourself
Really? Come on, do better than that.
>>72285157
And there is no clear fucking cure for it, at all, anywhere in any peer reviewed studies. Therapy doesn't work for the real deal.
>>72285225
>Hey kid, so your beloved family member wants to transition? Listen to us, we don't give a fuck about trannies, nor do we understand anything about it.
Nice try.
>>72285235
But you told me their suicide rates post surgery are still high? Where's the study? That's pretty big. Is it the John Hopkins Uni study from 40 years ago?
>Everyone knows trannies are normal
Hahahaha, okay. Everyone's an expert now. Now sources?
>>72285193
GO AWAY CANADA
>>72285370
either way we're fucked. medicine can't fix mental illness
>>72285370
I didn't ask for a non-answer. These are real fucking people. What do you do? My siblings are happy as shit. No paranoia or pain. So.. come again, doctor?
>>72284740
There are hormones you can take to balance the hormone level, if that is what you're talking about. Even more, for a lot of neurological disorders, there are indeed treatments for physical abnormalities. There are therapies, and certain procedures that can be done on you, that are effective for the conditions.
>>72285126
Can't pull my brand of inspired articulation straight out of my arse mate, I'd do it on the night. You either have it or you don't, clearly you don't have it, you're a poor excuse of a man. Kill yourself.
>>72280993
Start wearing makeup and acting trans as well. Make it so fucking uncool and corny for him that he drops it like the phase that it is.
>>72285371
I am talking about your idea about a female brain. There isn't one. There are brains that tend towards areas which are more emotional that scientist call female brains because majority of female brains are wired like that. But there isn't a clear cut definition of a female brain. Because brains aren't binary. They work on a spectrum. So you are wrong there.
>>72285482
Yet you still get triggered everytime someone doesn't mind your pronouns and tells you to fuck off.
Shitlords and bigots, all of them, amirite?
https://twitter.com/rajsujan1/status/471839550609039360
>>72285214
>hang out with other men
I don't know how this will work out, even if I shaved my head I still have a year of hormones to shake off and usually around men I just make them horny
>>72280993
love your brother for who he is you faggot
>>72285371
Go ask the trannies at >>>/lgbt/
You've addressed zero of my points such as someone is pushing his brother towards and instead have created this imagined reality where his brother is definitely 100% trans
>>72280993
So it was your sister who said it?
>>72285500
I mean, I see that you're theorycrafting and shit, but where are the results that say for an overwhelming majority of trannies that hormone therapy works? Especially if their hormone levels are normal for their sex? This isn't just neurological in many cases. So, what's the big answer?
>>72285557
Wow, so what would you do if your siblings were saying, "I'm a girl, Oliver"? Come on Ollie, enough dancing around just tell me.
>>72285576
It's not my idea. Autopsies have demonstrated this. I'm also asking you, how do you cure it?
>>72285596
I'm not a tranny, so try again. I am fine with my pronouns, nice heavy painting though.
>>72285688
>Educate yourself, shitlord
Just tell me, expert. This thread was someone asking for advice and I've lived it. So. why should I leave when you're an expert and you're right fucking in front of me? Your points? Like, that they have a higher suicide rate post surgery? Where's the citation?
>>72285069
>As a person with Asperger Syndrome, I learned more about theory of mind, friendships, and social interactions from this season than I had in the previous 31 years of life
I have Aspergers.
I hate it.
I fucking hate having this fucking disorder.
I hate how difficult it is to understand social norms.
I hate how hard it is for me to make friends (although considering the people I'm around, I'm not sure I'd have any friends anyway)
I hate how I sometimes do something completely, obviously stupid and/or rude and often don't realize it until someone tells me.
But, despite all my autism
Despite how degenerate I was
Even I was smart enough to know that watching My Little Pony was not going to teach me ANYTHING about how to be a normal person.
Jesus Christ, I hate being associated with people like the guy in your pic. I guess it at least gives me motivation to keep striving to fit in...?
>>72281423
My opa was a son of gun,
yet I still miss him.
>>72284740
>Female brain in a man's body
Never happens. Literally never happens.
When's the last time you saw a man born with breasts? We don't just get born with the wrong body parts, it doesn't work like that
>>72285371
>>72285576
Building on from this, there are ways to chemically alter the way that your brain develops, so it tends to lean more onto the male side of the spectrum or the female side of the spectrum. So yes, there are ways to actually chemically develop your brain and remedy it. A good example is child trauma victims that have brain damage done to their heads. They almost always seem to fully recover. Scientists have found a way to replicate that, but with adults, so that you can grow neurons and brain cells.
Source: http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro98/202s98-paper2/Hiremath2.html
>>72285618
Well, get off the hormones and hit the gym first. When you have successfully transitioned back to manhood, male friends are important.
>>72280993
People can't be convinced of anything.
Give up.
>Continuously bring up suicide statistics and tell it that you worry about it, that you don't want it to kill itself
>Show it articles and studies that proves your points.
>Show it pictures of masculine trannies. Prove that it's not possible to look like a girl unless you start before puberty
>Tell it that you accept it for who it is but that society will never accept it
>Engineer a new persona for yourself with strict values and consistent behavior. You need to be irrational and firm.
>You say that you only act this way because you're worried about it. That's your excuse for your behavior
>You need to manipulate it in to thinking that your irrational behavior is anchored to the ground and that it can't do anything about it
>All it can do is to try to change the shape of itself to get around you but then you just erect another pillar in its path and create yet another obstacle for it to try to slink around
>Be worried that other people will hurt it
>Isolate it from friends and the outside world
>Replace its hormone pills with other stuff
>Take control over every aspect of its life
>Create a reality for it where everything it does becomes an emotional problem and the only thing it can do to make things easier is to do what you want.
>Create a reality where you are always right, where all of your predictions comes true
You got this op
>>72284593
OH FUCK WHAT A TWIST
come to /mtfg/ and post pics
>>72285809
How do you cure a female with wide shoulders? How do you cure a male with wide hips? Are you Retarded?
>autopsies on a dead brain with 0 activity
>proving anything
Now I know you are just trolling
>>72284002
Pics, OP?
>>72285886
This, now what can happen is a person develops a mental disorder like gender dysphoria or dysmorphia.
Disorders that not only make people believe they're not the right person, but make them try to change themselves using life altering operations.
There's a daily pill that has been developed recently that reduces the urge to see one's self as a woman(or man).
>>72284593
I would say get mental help
Seek a therapist
But don't talk about trans shit or at least don't make it your focus
Instead explore everything else and then build up to it
As someone who is borderline sociopathic (I've got a little official documentation and everything :^] ) just talking to someone about how I have a shit ton of trouble caring about people even family and people who consider me friends helped
>>72285962
This is really good advice if you were actually the brother op
>>72285886
>Man born with breasts
When's the last time you saw a girl born with breasts? Do you mean when have I seen men with breasts? It happens. Have you heard of inter-sexuality? People born with both genitals? Have you heard of Androgen-Insensitivity? Syndrome? Do you just spout nonsense when you barely grasp anything? Are you that fucking dense?
>>72285911
Cool doc. I can't wait for the top doctors around the world to hear this magical cure. Really, it'd be amazing if transexualism isn't exist.
>>72285991
>how do you cure what is morphological
Thanks for proving my point, spergy.
You do understand that a female and male brain are shaped differently, whether they're active or not, right? topkek what is school like in Singapoor?
>>72282291
Eh, just put him on a build routine, get him strong enough to work a man's job again, ignore the rest but tell him you want to be there for him when he's thinking or going through actual surgery. Give him a man's job and let him sort out the rest in peace, protect him from the boot parties and AIDS, but don't coddle him or support the transition. Let him know you disapprove intensely but that he's your brother no matter what and cosmetic vaginas won't change that, but working like a fag will.
Get him in the quarry, get him working, if he isn't legit dysphoric it'll sort itself out and you'll have every opportunity to delay the cutting into his manhood.
>>72285809
I'm saying in the special cases where there are imbalanced hormone levels. But, for the rest where it is a legitimate neurological condition, just look up neurological condition treatments. You will see that people who actually suffer with malformed brains can benefit from therapy or certain medical procedures.
So, it varies from person to person the root cause of the dysphoria; and for some that is mental illness wise, and others, neurologically. But, what I'm saying is that there are ways to try to fix the way that the brain is formed. So please stop strawmannirg arguments, and throwing around accusations.
>>72280993
A lot of Americans own firearms.
>>72285809
I can't pretend enough that such a situation is happening to me which is why I can't give you an idea of what I'd come out with, but when such things have happened to me throughout my life I have always been able to convince people to see sense.
I have to be hit with the actual reality of it for it to inspire me to formulate a mixture of words so articulate and resoundingly undeniable that it would save my siblings. I am very good at this when I need to be so I am thoroughly convinced if I were in your place your siblings wouldn't call themselves transexual and would probably end up laughing with me about how silly they both were before they talked to me.
>>72284593
We're gonna need some pics.
>>72282029
>fighting spirit,in a trans.
No, they have none left.
If you do this you'll just beat him to death or bring it back out.
>>72283370
Here's your reply
>>72285371
>Implying you have to be a spineless cuck because they're family
You have such a flimsy argument that your rebuttal is that I'm anonymous? Top kek m8.
You rather listen to paid shills than to honest common sense. You know you're wrong. Keep justifying your own faggotry, and your family's faggotry.
>>72280993
>What the fuck do I say or do to bring him back to reality?
Fuck him in his boi pussy
>>72285436
>can't fix
But it can suppress it enough to give people the ability to live a normal well-adjusted life.
>>72286223
There isn't a female or male brain model you fucktard. Show me a study or get fucked. The brain works in a spectrum and isnt fucking binary. You say there is a female Brain? Fine give me a source backed by science that provides an exact definition of what a female brain comprises of. Can't do that? Get fucked troll.
>>72284593
You understand this is an anonymous website, right?
>>72285809
>Like, that they have a higher suicide rate post surgery? Where's the citation?
the actual study shows that the suicide rate was still higher than normal people (not suprising at all btw). it doesnt say anything about comparison of pre/post ops.
I am too lazy to google it. /pol/ cant read properly most of the time anyway, so youre kinda wasting your energy.
I appreciate you trying tho!
t. post op tranny
>>72286223
I don't think you understand what you're even talking about. First off, there is no magical cure-all for gender dysphoria. Please stop with your bullshit "cure" and black and white answer. The root causes for gender dysphoria is different for every person, so there can't be a cure all for the condition. What I'm saying is that there are ways, and that there is possibility to cure the neurological disorder, that does not involve transitioning. Seriously, fuck off; gender dysphoria is no different than other neurological and mental conditions.
>>72286430
normal? a life with immigrants and progressive liberals running rampant in university's? I don't think so
fug his b0ipu$$i
>>72286223
"Intersexuality" is like .00001% of the population. A very VERY rare disorder, which is properly classified as a disorder. The number of "trannies" is 100000 times that.
How many people with XY chromosomes grow breasts when they hit puberty? Practically 0.
The whole idea that people are regularly born with the wrong body parts is totally insane, and anti-scientific. The brain itself is responsible for the production of hormones that make you male or female. Being born with the "wrong brain" would change these hormones as well. Meaning if you had a female brain, you'd develop a female body
Was he passable?
>>72280993
Shun it.
First off invite him to stay at your place and not pay for a hotel. Whether you like it or not he's family just because he's crazy doesn't make it otherwise. Then you can talk about how and why you disprove of his life choices and that pretending to be a girl wont make him happy. I love how little family means to must of you faggots if you actually bond and have relationship with your friends/family you can spot and stop this shit before it takes root..
>>72282470
Distance yourself.
>>72284593
Well you simply need to kill yourself then.
>>72280993
He's too far in lad, he's gone.
Move on!
>>72286679
>this kid thinks 1 in 100 people are trannies
jesus you're worse than those sjw groups that pretend like 30% of the population is gay to get more shekels from the government
>>72284593
Pics
>>72287022
ok fuck it
>>72282284
It is pretty damn funny tb h senpai
>Grandpa didn't (grandpa stuff)
>so you could grow up to be a fucking tranny
>>72284593
>>72287077
Qt as fuck. Post boipussy
>>72287077
Why would you have a snapchat that you yourself sent?
>>72287077
Stay as girl. More pics.
>>72287077
hnng
>Best guess for this image: beauty
not even kidding
>>72280993
Honestly dude? You have two options.
1 - disown him, straight up ignore him. Pretend he's dead.
2- 'accept him'. but don't treat him any differently. No special snowflakeness, maybe rip on him once in a while but dont buy in to any of his bull. Back to normal eventually. S'what happened with a friend of my friends. We just told him to stop acting like such a faggot and come get a beer with us.
>>72287177
You can save snaps moron.
>>72287177
screen cap because i'm not on my phone nigger
>>72287194
for reals? can I still be pol approved as a tranny?
>>72287077
bretty gud
>>72284593
Sounds to me like you just got your mind brainwashed by super-liberal university morons who equate trans / gay / whatever as "oppressed" and therefore, by some mental gymnastics, virtuous and a model to live by
It's not your fault you just need to change the people you are around. Because they're toxic.
OP, I'd really like to talk to you about this somewhere, if we could.
Email me @ [email protected]
Thanks in advance
>>72287277
Never leave
>>72287277
You can be approved if you send more pics with timestamp.
>>72287077
Is asspussy a better term than boypussy?
Calling your fine lil butt a boypussy is just insulting when it's clear your asspussy and your feminine dick are female.
>>72287277
op you're qt as fuck
don't fuck it up
>>72280993
My brother is trans too, op....I know your pain.
It gets better with time. Just try to focus on other things. I'm sorry.
>>72287277
>>72287077
As long you don't go full Milo and fuck black guys, you are cool.
>>72287077
>>72285811
I feel ya anon, I've got mild Asperger's. used to be a shitton worse when I was younger. I would've kicked my younger self if I'd met him.
>>72287077
Ignore the degenerate deviants who replied to you. Wash off the makeup, cut your hair, pull the socks out and start acting sensibly.
If you're going to have any sort of dysphoria or delusions, please adopt a temporal dysphoria with delusions of being the chancellor of Germany in the 1930s.
>>72287077
>>72286679
>A very VERY rare disorder
Correct. It's not that it doesn't exist, it's just not nearly common enough to create the transgendered population that the social engineers want to see.
I'm convinced that a fair number of 'trannies' are quite simply homosexual bottoms that have figured out how to attract the straight tops they lust after.
Anyway, sexuality is a bell curve, and most people will imprint sexually on pretty much whatever society tells them to. That's one thing the SJWs have right - late teens and early twenties are when people tend to be still fluid and settling into their identity so if you want to fuck with that identity this is the time to do it.
This is certainly an interesting thread
>>72281990
Again with the whole MUH FAMILY meme. Why doesn't /pol/ just let this die?
>>72282131
You stupid nigger, urging employers to fire over gay family is how we all get stuck with diversity quotas. Someone needs to fix your brother, but you are clearly not the guy to do it.
>>72287077
>>72287277
OP, ignore the fucking basement dwelling virgins that replied to you. Wash off the makeup, flush out the hormones, and start investing in yourself.
>>72287607
someone cap it
>>72287155
>>72287194
>>72287199
>>72287311
>>72287343
>>72287373
>>72287386
>>72287410
GET OUT FUCKING DEVIANT SCUM
>>72287277
Sure everyone has a place here. Just do what you feel is right don't let people tell you what is right or wrong.
MODS SHUT DOWN THIS DEGENERACY. THIS IS WORSE THAN THE MEXICAN PEDO THREAD EARLIER TODAY
>>72287077
>mfw
I WOULD SMASH THAT BOIPUSSY, OBLITERATE THAT BOIPUSSY, FIRST DEGREE MURDER THAT BOIPUSSY,
INHALE
N
H
A
L
E
THAT BOIPUSSY ALL DAY EVERY DAY LIKE A MOTHERFUCK HIT ME UP SENPAI WHERE, WHEN, I'LL TRAVEL A HUNDRED MILES TO
SHRED
H
R
E
DA BOIPUSSY
>>72287797
>using the word disgusting instead of degenerate if you're going to use Hitler
https://youtu.be/pM1h_2ujsvs?t=19s
>>72282576
>gets arrested
>gets butt raped
>likes butt rape
>be sisters
>>72287155
>>72287194
>>72287199
>>72287311
>>72287343
>>72287373
>>72287386
>>72287410
Fuck off animals.
>>72287797
shes just too cute anon
I think I caught the degeneracy
>>72287824
t. Thirsty fucking beta who'd masturbate to a 100x100 pixel image of hillary clinton from 300 yards away
>>72287918
I know fampai it bothers me too.
>>72287797
You would rather have this pussy spread his genes? At least keep him a girl so he's out of the gene pool.
>>72287277
>>72287077
>>72284593
Oh I see.
Well then back to the beginning.
>>72281783
>Ask him why he thinks he's a girl.
>>72281872
>Then what?
Mask dropped so answer the question. Why do you think you're a girl?
>>72287891
Kill yourself faggot.
>>72287077
pretty cute, would ravage desu
>>72287958
>she
Fuck off, we're trying to help OP here, not fling him into a pool of degeneracy.
>>72287277
Your brother misses the brother he thinks he has lost. Show him that your are who you are, nothing more, nothing less.
>>72288029
Make him erase his habitual delusions and a man can be rebuilt.
>>72287797
>>72287951
He could reproduce and pass on his gay trans genes, at least let her live the rest of her life as sissy fag.
>>72281872
triggered
I'm a vegetarian because otherwise I'd be a fatass. I just can't control myself around meat.
>>72288078
>>72287155
>>72287194
>>72287199
>>72287311
>>72287343
>>72287373
>>72287386
>>72287410
>>72287891
>>72287536
>falling for jewish psyops this easily
I used to believe in you, /pol/
>>72288235
To be honest, in real we won't really her unless we are drunk. I still have hope that most of us will find wives and shefags like OP.
>>72288140
His genes won't be gone. Would you rather have a generation of people who are constantly trying to fight the urge to be a woman?
![dove[1].jpg_w=259.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/W2ReGXM.jpg "dove[1].jpg_w=259.jpg")
THIS IS NOW OFFICIALLY A NATIONALIST THREAD
ERASE DEGENERACY, ESPECIALLY THE SORT THAT FINDS ITSELF AT YOUR FEET PLEADING FOR MERCY AND ACCEPTANCE
https://youtu.be/8ymEKiY1UR8
https://youtu.be/uUyDcGSMPEQ
https://youtu.be/tWRF2zOEtks
https://youtu.be/pDLyKSYRqXM
>>72280993
Talk to him and tell him that he can be gay but being trans will damage his body and regret it later.
Tell him to wear a skirt when his bf fucks him in the ass and that's it
>>72286679
>1 in 500 live male births have XXY chromosomes
>0.00001%
Bon aryens, amirite
>>72288442
>>72288202
>there's a tranny/fag gene
nice try schlomo
