So /pol/, what is so bad about illegal immigration? Do you hate Mexicans or something?
>>72256932
Yes
Why would I hate my own people?
I want more Latina qts tbqh
>>72256932
Are you reverse kidding me?
>>72256932
that human is illegal.
>>72256932
I've never met a Mexican in my life
>>72256932
Why do you support companies subverting minimum wage and workers rights?
>>72256932
>pic
Does this apply to pedophilia as well?
>>72256932
>depicting it as an issue of hate
Why do you always deflect from the fact that their own nations should be fixing their shit and taking care of their own?
Mexico's nowhere near as poor as it pretends to be, has many millionaires and billionaires, and most of the south is better-developed than many places in America are.
But they openly refuse to take care of their own because of a culture that has taken shape where they feel like they have a right to deal with their poor by telling them to fuck off and be our headache instead.
And these same Mexican elite who tell us we have no right to build a wall lo and behond live behind walls. Every fucking Mexican here can tell you that you know when you entered the nice side of town because all you see is walls.
And the hypocricy is the worst part. They defend their borders. They jail and kick out people illegally in their country. They uphold their laws and defend their sovereignty. Yet when it coes to America, these same fucking people say America has no rights at all to all of the above.
And they're so fucking racist. Everywhere illegals go becomes 100% their kind only within 5 years as they violently purge out anyone who's not their kind. And with them controlling 90%+ of the illegal drug trade in America, every where you have illegals, you have the criminal drug trade.
And they commit so much crime against Americans that liberals classify them as "white people" in the crime stats to hide the problem from the American public.
>>72256932
I don't get what's so illegal about wanting to flee a horrible life.
It's really hard to get citizenship here, too. I know a woman who took 10 years just to be accepted here.
The majority of naturalized people living safely in this country has no idea what immigrants are fleeing from or the hardships citizenship takes.
>Mexican illegally enter US (breaking fuckloads of laws doing it)
>Mexican commits crime in the US
>Mexican becomes figutive in the US
>Mexican goes back to Mexico to escape prosecution
>the US hunts him
>Mexican government: "NO WE'RE NOT HANDING PEDRO OVER FOR STEALING CARS OR BREAKING INTO HOUSES! THAT'S WHY YOU GRINGOS SHOULD HAVE INSURANCE, SO SUCK IT UP AND JUST TAKE IT WHILE WE ENJOY OUR NEW SHIT AND CARS! AND NO WE'RE NOT HANDING PABLO OVER FOR ASSAULT/RAPE/MURDER! OUR PEOPLE HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS AND WE'RE A SOVEREIGN NATION! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TELL US TO HAND OVER A CRIMINAL!"
>Dog the Bounty Hunter illegally goes to Mexico to nab fugitive
>gets jailed for illegally entering Mexico and illegally "kidnapping" a sovereign Mexican citizen
>>72256932
Fuck off hombre. We're full and no one wants you here.
There's a demand for their labor. Ironically, if they would have stayed on their side of the border, immigration laws would have likely changed to allow them to come legally.
>>72258450
Then fucking FIX it.
For each nation that stops sucking the whole fucking planet's a better place for it.
Buit it's easier to just be our burden while you turn our country to shit to make it more comfortable for you by making it more like where you came from one neighborhood at a time, and giving us nothing but your attitude and racism in return.
Because I am a LEGAL immigrant?
>>72258836
>he actually thinks this happens
Fucking gueros lmao, hyperbolic about everything.
You act like women.
>>72256932
>what is so bad about illegal immigration
Please say this out loud to yourself and then try again.
>>72256932
>Do you hate Mexicans or something?
I have no opinion on Mexicans. Mexicans have nothing to do with my opinion on illegal immigration. I hate illegal immigration from Mexico exactly as much as I hate illegal immigration from Canada, Kenya, and the Philippines. It has absolutely nothing to do with any particular race or nationality.
>>72259443
It does happen. That's why illegals know that returning to mexico is a safe haven for them
THIS ARGUMENT IS A TRAP, STOP FALLING FOR IT.
The only answer you need is... IT'S ILLEGAL!
Illegal immigration is illegal and for something to be illegal it needs to be enforced by law enforcement ( whoever they may be )
getting into the '' I hate this people '' argument will never work. You simply say, the law must be upheld or else there is no more rule of law.
Legal immigration is okay because it's legal, illegal isn't okay because it's illegal.
Simple as that.
>>72256932
>no human is illegal
a stay can be illegal though
If I'm not paying the rent and get kicked out, I can't claim that no human is illegal. That wouldn't be fair to the owner of the property I was previously renting.
If I go to another state and just stay there for economic reasons without permission, then that would be unfair to the citizens who were already living there. It would be unfair to the citizens of a state to let certain people (in this case illegal immigrants) to break the laws. If the people were allowed to immigrate, why not change the existing laws? If the laws of a state don't mean anything, why call it a state?
>NO HUMAN IS ILLEGAL
>EXCEPT ON MEXICO'S SIDE OF THE BORDER!
Biggest fucking hypocrites on the planet. They want nothing less than total destruction of our borders and sovereignty as well as total destruction of our culture, language, and everything as everywhere they go in the US they demand we all assimlate into being more like them while they muscle out allth ings American and replace it with all things Mexican, and all while having the audacity to lay this guilt-trip bullshit onto us.
>>72260422
Exactly. Also, I've gotten a ticket for an "illegal left turn" before. I'm pretty sure "no human being is illegal" wouldn't have gotten me out of it. Nobody is claiming that the human beings themselves are illegal, we're claiming that the actions they took regarding immigration (whether they overstayed a visa or hopped the border) were illegal.
If I went to France and overstayed my visa, that would make me an illegal immigrant in France.
>>72256932
No one can be illegal if the place belongs to others? Please send me the keys to your door.
>>72256932
Arizonan here
I hate leeches, crime, uneducated, fat, beans. Native born hispanics gererally dislike mexicans too because they give them a bad name. My ex gf got stabbed by one while walking to campus.
We have a lot of mexicans here and we still passed the profiling law that the supreme cucks struck down. Native born hispanics don't like border jumpers.
>>72256932
What's so bad about illegal drunk driving and resultant vehicular homicide?
Do you get it now anon?
COUNTRY OF LAWS.
>NO HUMAN IS ILLEGAL
>chases anyone on their lawn off, claiming property rights
>sees no hypocricy with telling nations they can't do the same because they want what they want at gringo expense, and expect the people fo the country they've invaded to just shut up and take it.
>destroy hundreds of billions in property values everywhere they go
>everywhere they go they steal, vandalize, and trash everyone else's shit
>BUT they expect you to respect their shit'
Property rights and sovereignty only exist when something belongs to Mexicans. It's really that fucking simple
>>72258450
Yeah, >>72259316 is right. If your country is so fucking terrible, then DO SOME SHIT ABOUT IT. If Mexico is a lawless hellhole with illegal guns everywhere, drug runners, and corrupt cops then, oh, I don't know, maybe pick up a few of those ubiquitous illegal guns, and start shooting some motherfuckers? Take back your towns, your neighborhoods, your government?
I mean, fuck, Mexico, get your shit together before Trump decides to just annex the country and turn it into the Great Southern Trump Hotel And Casino And Parking Lot.
>>72258450
"Fleeing hardships" same shit going on in Europe. Need to help them fix the problem. I'm all for helping Mexico kill the cartels
>>72256932
>No human is illegal
That is correct.
But the status of illegal aliens is illegal.
>>72256932
>what is so bad about illegal immigration?
For one thing it makes the native poor poorer.
>>72256932
Not Specs so much. More like niggers, kebab, slavs and all the halfbreed mongrels that come from white degenerates breeding with subraces.
>>72262679
>>what is so bad about illegal immigration?
Its illegal.
>>72256932
Wrong.
>illegal
that your answer, countries have their own laws. If you want to live in a country you have to follow the country laws
no, humans are not 'illegal', especially since that's just a clever way you have of purposefully confusing a noun and an adjective. But humans can and do perform illegal acts and when they do perform illegal acts, they make themselves criminals.
Entering a country in spite of and in disregard of and in violation of, its statutory laws is a crime. And illegal.
>>72262819
>That flag
btfo
>>72262819
Mexibro.
I'm all for immigration if it was 30 years ago. People are established now, any further entrance of migrants is now counter productive.
>>72256932
>>72258836
And what about those who are here so called legally?
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/2/homeland-security-limited-ability-detect-asylum-fr/?page=all
Btw I'm in California and I don't see Spanish speaking mexicans commit any kind of atrocities you fags write about on the internet. And yeah most of them actually work unlike those fake refugees who come here legally.
>cool green text cuck
>>72258450
> "I don't see what's so illegal about breaking the law."
Check the dictionary?
>>72259443
Huh. You haven't see the documentary of the worst prisons on the world are you, they go to this one in México and there is this guy in jail that made exactly what the american is saying.
Mexican mafia and crimes in the USA are a thing anon. "La Eme" is a big example of this
You live under a rock?
They can't be taxed.
If they commit a crime they are very difficult to track because they have zero paperwork.
Billions of US dollars are filtered out of our economy and into Mexico by illegals every year.
Because they are willing to work for so little and can't work many jobs, they devalue labor jobs severely. Jobs that require less formal education that would typically be worked by the lower fringe of American society are taken by people who would not invest into American communities and the economy. Legal Americans have to pay taxes on wages, on food and clothes, on their homes. They simply can not compete with someone who doesn't have to give a cent back to the US.
Also because the US simply doesn't have the space for illegals. They filter into poor neighborhoods, and because they can't apply for loans or anything other than low-grade manual labor they fester there.
>>72256932
The mere existance of a human being is not illegal.
Trespassing on the other hand is.
Illegal immigrants are nothing more that trespassers.
The people of the USA have created a society.
It is the right of that socieity to defend it against anyone trying to intrude it.
The important word in that sentence was "intrude".
The outsider can try to join that society, but for that they'll have to ask and be accepted.
I just wish that everyone spouting this "no human is illegal" bullshit would be forced to let hobos and illegals into their homes.
After all, they aren't illegal, it's the same thing on a smaller scale.
Hopefully they'll get murdered in their sleep.
>What's so bad about illegal immigration
A shit ton of tax money is spent because these fucks exist in our country, and they don't pay taxes, so they're essentially a black hole for your taxes.
A bunch of "Jobs no body wants" are being handed over to them, not to mention a "Job no body wants" can be hard labor one day, an office job the next. We already have the issue of businesses replacing workers in good paying fields with random Poo in the loos because "They're cheaper", we already pretty much hand them jobs in Programming, and it just sickens me.
They also cause crime and send money they make here back to their country, effectively vacuuming money out of the US. They're pretty shitty people who think they are free from everything because they're not really citizens. I can tell you many dumb stories where I worked in retail and usually some spic family would let their children run wild as they browsed through movies and did a pretty shit job of putting them back. And don't get me started about those shitty people in costume in Time Square, who wear shitty costumes and instantly force you to pay 20bux if you take a picture of them.
And probably one of the worse things, it's because of fuckers like this that we have to teach Spanish in schools, much more time could be spent learning anything else, but no, we have to cause more confusion and waste time on a language that's really pointless. All Spanish speaking countries are generally horrible places you'd never want to go to, and the only jobs you would use spanish in is minimum wage jobs, just so you can understand the lyrics to the shitty latino pop/rap music your coworker is blasting non-stop
>>72258409
Underrated post
I hate people who don't abide by the law and reap the benefits of law abiding citizens.
>>72256932
Mostly has to do with economic competition and in the event of conflict.
Any sort of nation-state or "ethnic" conflict between the United States and Mexico gives Mexico an important advantage of having a very large readily available guerilla force behind the "Front line" per say if they ever decided to act like Iranians and unnecessarily stir shit up in North America.
Another issue is economic competition; particularly if you allow those foreign nationals access to the facilitators of obtaining a middle class living inside the United States; as this will displace your political group and hence safety in the event that the natural chaos that is politics comes at you.
That's basically why. But it wouldn't become a dangerous situation per say until the numbers of non-Hispanics got cut in half; then Mexico might be tempted to act in what is academically defined as "Adversarial".
>>72257101
>Liking disgustingly disproportioned women
>>72256932
>What is so bad about illegal immigration?
They are leeching taxpayers' money by babysitting them that bankrupted the education system, health care, justice system, etc.
>Do you hate Mexicans or something?
Not an argument. We want illegals out, only legal immigrants.
>>72258409
This guy is right. Hell the brutality ilegal inmigrants from central america get from the mexico goverment make the usa gov look like the hare krishnas, not only that but the dangers they face on board of the train called "La bestia", police raids, getting mug and kill by the drug lords in the south zone and also the north zone.
But according to our politicians and elite, USA is the one big bad guy with inmigrants.
Like you said hypocrisy
>>72256932
>no human is illegal
Cool, I'm just going to break into your house at 2 am and crash on your couch, don't call the cops or youre a bigot
>>72256932
I'll put it simply for you to understand. Have you ever been waiting in line and some assholes cut in at the very front of the line?
That's what it is, except is even worse because they don't even have a ticket. And after they walk in they go to concessions and get some food&drink and walk away, and the people behind them have to pay for it instead.
>>72266148
Pro tip, every Jew from soviet union who came here lied on his asylum application.
There was prosecution there after 1917.
http://michaelcutler.net/26-individuals-including-six-lawyers-charged-in-manhattan-federal-court-w-participating-in-immigration-fraud-schemes-involving-hundreds-of-fraudulent-asylum-applications/
>>72256932
OP BTFO? Nobody likes to lose I guess.
>>72257101
Fat assed disease ridden whores
>>72256932
No I hate criminals, rapists, thieves and terrorists
