One of the priorities on my little branch of National Socialism is art, and I do not know what to make of it. My Tumblr Blog (yes, I got one of those) is filled with Nationalism, photography of war, heroes and everything is paused by small, ephemeral islands of art pieces that I have found to like.
I believe that ideas must be simple, elegant, yet powerful. That is something I got after diving for a while in graphical design as a hobby.
I believe that City Planning is a very important issue and that it must be controlled by the state, as, I believe, Cities are giant art pieces for your people to live in.
If you pay even the most superficial attention to what progressives call "art" you can tell a lot from them; they worship nothing, aim for mediocrity and search for short and useless pleasure (I am thinking about "art" which's only aim it to generate a reaction).
I believe that art must represent a higher value, like the glory of heroes, the struggle of a nation, but also that the simple life of your fellow people is something to be celebrad with pride, as it can represent the values of a nation being put in use even by the simplest of actions.
Even with this very specific rules I have problems with art. I like impressionism, some pieces of modern art, american art deco, some pieces of surrealism, hate most of Picasso but love some Soviet Avant Garde. So I think that degenerate art is not just some styles and all the pieces under it's name, but actually single pieces and the ides under these single pieces.
With that out the way
>What is degenerate art?
>What should we aim for in art?
>How do we get rid of the "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" bullshit without obligating people to have only one mindset?
Also, post your favourite pieces of art as examples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR2DbU5Uq-4
>>72239975
Is this the English point of view of the American Revolution?
Is so, this must be the first time i see that viewpoint
Oh boy, my favorite thread is back.
>>72240658
I remember seeing this on my trip to the Tate..
I thought art was a joke and I wasnt sure why I took it for GCSE... until i saw this - not even sure what it is about it that struck me, but from then on I grew to respect art as one of the foundations for a great society and a necessary part of culture.
There isn't anything intrinsically wrong with non-figurative, non-naturalistic art. See the Italian Futurists.
Conceptual "art" is different.
>>72240467
I went to Musée d'Orsay, It was before I got interested in art, now I feel so bad to have missed this
>>72240653
I am not religious, but I hate this. Is a mockery of everything he represents, it's a mockery of many good values at the very least
Am I the only one who has trouble with the war aspect of national socialism?
More specifically the sheer amount of casualties taken by national socialist states. Surely there's a way to mitigate loses..
Now that I think of it, governments with totalitarian reigemes suffer huge loses..
>>72240578
There is a nigger in the right side!
>>72240337
Yeah, feels pretty bad man
>>72241150
Hopefully you will come back to visit it again. You can also visit it at night every Thursday, it's great.
>>72241612
Of course. This is from 1883, the start of colonisation. It's probably not an African, but I think it's an Arab.
>>72241601
>Now that I think of it, governments with totalitarian reigemes suffer huge loses..
Dictatorships tend to not give a fuck about people, senpai, regardless of all their mealy-mouthing.
>>72241137
Oh, no. Some pieces can explore the mind or the "essence" of ideas. I have great respect for many contemporary artists and how they express many ideas.
But then there are some that are not ven trying to create something great, not even something good. They are the art equivalent of junk food
>>72241857
Anything for the greater [insert state]
I guess it could also be down to the amount of men who are willing to fight and die. Tends to be more volunteers and mandatory service in dictatorships
>>72241849
>An Arab
Ooh shit!
>>72241001
Isn't that in Belgium ?
The original waifu.
>>72241482
This is amazing
>>72241313
>>72241162
Thinks like this make me angry at the current state of the United States, I see this and I think of a great nation with even greater people, but then I remember that I am right next of a country dunk in it's own power who could not give less of a shit about their people, and a population that has gave up hope
Alternate title: Imperialism fuck yeah.
>>72241482
>>72242278
I usually save first and look for names later but this is too beautiful to be named "Unknown_11"
>It's "View of Dresden by Moonlight" by Johan Christian Dahl
Definitely in on this
>>72241729
Yes it does, War Art has a propaganda aspect in it on most of the times, usually making oneself look great and powerful, even when loosing, but they look so helpless...
>>72242219
Nice Thread. Good art is universal and timless. A true genius understands all people and expresses it through his art. We can not really explain it but somehow certain lines or curves or colour combinations, we can all universally agree are aesthetically pleasing. Just like we all agree that certain notes (in music) sound good together without understanding why. It is the highest form of culture as we express universal wisdom that can not be explained in words.
>>72239833
http://www.artrenewal.org/articles/Philosophy/ArtScam/artscam.php
>>72242707
Bernie and Ted?
By the way, this painting was vandalised by a feminist in 1914, because she didn't like "the way men visitors gaped at it all day long".
this is $300 million
jelly?
Is this qualified as non-degenerate art?
>>72242219
>tfw You will never carve yourself the perfect woman to love and be loved by
>>72239833
>What should we aim for in art?
>How do we get rid of the "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" bullshit without obligating people to have only one mindset?
As the Führer wrote - "...the highest ideals
always correspond to a profound vital necessity in our lives, just as the nobility we see in
beauty is ultimately determined by a form that is logical and useful in the end (=THE BEAUTY OF FORM FOLLOWS ITS FUNCTION). Faith helps to raise man above the level of a mere animal existence, and it contributes to strengthening and safeguarding his existence..."
Holger the Dane slumbers until the Nation needs defending once again.
Can you tell that I really like Bouguereau ?
>>72243091
They are just painting words illegally on a train, usually for territorial purposes. No real ideas behind it. There are of course some exceptions, but sadly street art is not always art
>>72239833
>>72241745
Haha oh man, those japs..
Well perfect example that art is a mirror of my it's creator's morals and values.
>>72242753
>White people
>Angels
This is demonic picture. Those "angels" should get black bred by the rightous rod of the black alpha race.
>>72242940
So, Trial and error, and let the best art survive?
What's the one with the village getting murdered by spooky skeletons?
>>72239833
On the money. Its the ideas beneath. There are exceptional modernist works. Dali most notably for me.
Thank you guys for this thread.
>>72244023
Well, Hokusai also made a lot of great stuff. But you can tell he had fun making perverted pictures like these.
A few years after him, there was a trend of "Bloody Prints", which is quite interesting and basically started what we call "guro" nowadays.
>>72243374
>Ziegler - The Four Elements
I remember that piece from my visit to Berlin (or was it Munich, I can't remember), there was something attractive, yet repulsive, maybe the taboo Nazi Art has
>>72244023
>>72244486
I don't want to shit up the thread, but I'll just post another one.
GAULED
>>72243700
You would say the same if you saw my art folder, please forgive my amateur attitudes, but I a very attracted with his representation of values, very intresting
>>72239833
>>72240988
Art is really important, It's treated as a joke because it is a doss subject at school and university level. But if for example you visit somewhere with utilitarian architecture, it just looks cold and uninviting it effects your mood in a negative way when compared with some place that is designed with aesthetics in mind.
>>72243374
>>72239833
So I think art should celebrate natural beautiful forms and also exalt our spirit and motivate us in our idealistic struggle in attaining the perfection and our fight against weakness and degeneracy. Just as you say, art is an integral part of national socialism.
>>72245014
The Zulus deserve genocide, just for this.
>tfw no based Second Empire anymore
>>72239833
>>72242070
>>72241612
Durr, he must be black! Or Arab! Pol is too much sometimes.
>>72245720
forgot pic.
>>72245588
>tfw no based Second Empire anymore
I know man
now this is a thread i like
>>72244028
please stop ruining threads. we know your country is a shithole but we really dont need this here, anon. we try to appreciate our culture instead of tarnish it.
A great fishing story about the one that got away.
>>72242667
>>72246583
>Proto-otaku.jpg
>>72246732
It's exactly that. There's a whole artistic movement like that, Japonisme.
France has always been the weeabooest country.
The Gross Clinic
>>72239833
link me your tumblr blog pls
>>72246732
>>72246922
Any African art ?
>>72246732
>>72246922
>>72247002
>>72247028
Some African is interesting. These Beninese Bronze, for example.
I think this was in a previous thread, but I'm on my laptop at the moment and it's the best I've got.
Otto Bache, Danish soldiers return to Copenhagen in 1848 (1884)
Too beautiful not to post.
Currently listening to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj21y3lLB-A&spfreload=5
>>72247195
Such a beautiful event. So energetic and full of life.
Czech painter Zdenek Burian made hundreds of awesome paintings. I think he's most famous for his paleoart.
>>72247028
>>72247187
And then you have representation of Africans in European Art.
>>72247311
>>72247187
I love the african section of any art or design museum, but too bad that, in the same way that "Raza" Mexicans hurt Mexican culture, Modern Africans hurt the little culture they could develop
>>72247370
This image is russophobic. I advise you to remove it immediately.
>>72247195
Wiki says that the banner (I think on the right-hand side?) reads:
'Thank you, you who fell, and you who stayed behind'
The one in the middle of the street simply says "Welcome"
The piece that I'm posting now is from Pompeii. Haven't been able to find context or info about the subject.
it's time
>>72246947
Try not to cringe too hard, this is a personal blog that I made a long time ago, really do not think before clicking that "reblog" button
Golden mask in Ecuador
this has to be my favorite one
>>72247879
And my semi-Autistic ass forgot the link
>http://limbecrox.tumblr.com
>>72248144
Oh Laws...dat ass.
>>72247310
Yep, a powerful reminder that the military, like the rest of the people, should be something terribly precious. Something to be protected and furthermore only used when absolutely necessary.
This pic I saw originally in a book, I believe it was Swords of the Viking Age. The item itself is in a museum in Helsinki. I can scarce imagine how beautiful it was in its prime.
>>72247709
kek
>>72242219
more where that came from by the way
>>72248236
Wow, I love it.
>i'm sure that pol will recognize these two ladies.
>>72248236
>http://limbecrox.tumblr.com
You have a lot of great stuff, anon.
>>72248236
cool blog but you spelled ''exept'' wrong.
>>72249259
>>72249018
Thanks. Now, if you do not mind, I am uploading some of this pieces
>>72249309
Yeah, A friend told me that long ago, but I have decided to leave it
>this is what happens when J.S. Bach decides that Vivaldi needs a harpsichord cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZjk7fWeAeo
All-father, even the sound of the damper at the beginning tells you that the first piece is going to be wonderful and happy.
>In this post: Leopold Schmutzler - Working Maidens, 1940
>3rd Reich approved [x]
>>72249518
great blog nonetheless, keep up the good work anon
>>72247370
Awesome
>>72241745
lol
>>72245186
Good
Everything else in this thread is kinda boring tbqh.
>>72242066
That artist managed to capture a plethora of the ways in which soldiers cope with war. Well done!
The title is: Heimkehrender Tiroler Landsturm im Krieg von 1809 (1876)
Artist: Franz Defregger
Serenity - Jules-Alexis Muenier
Hopperstad stave church in Norway. This pic really shows the beauty of the village in which it resides, but unfortunately washes out the color of the wood. Next pic will do a better job.
>>72251197
>select images with mountains
As you command, O Kek.
>>72251197
>>72251331
beautiful church
Pls don't let this thread die! I'm browsing it with tears in my eyes.
>mfw we will never produce beauty like this again
Please /pol/ .. Let me have a last vision of our continental greatness before I die... The Mohametan subsaharan hordes are ouside my house, I'll soon depart this world... Remind me of my struggle before I enter Valhalla! MORE!!
Sieg Heil!
>>72241482
my new background familia
>>72251828
Here, A bump
So much beautiful art in the world. I think art can really change your life by uplifting your spirit, motivating you and maybe even changing your whole mindset. Just think of all the degeneracy pumped into us from the media. Every time you turn on TV or visit some mainstream website, you are bathed in that filth.
How many times have you been confronted with art like in this thread. No, it's degeneracy, degeneracy everywhere. And that's what we live in. Our souls just slowly rot.
This thread has inspired me to start building my personal collection of graphic art I like, just like I do it with music.
>>72251828
Remember, a horde can be big, but organisation can make or break a movement, you can make a change, you only need to leave the computer and organise your people, save your country now that I just stared to know and like your culture
>>72251828
another bump for you friend
the painting is of a slave selling auction in rome
>>72252151
It is great to know that I made a little change
>>72251828
I never realized how much Swedish art looks like that of the Pennsylvania Deutsch.
>>72252739
>>72240815
This one hit me deeply
>>72239833
>undisputably more significant and with a higher cultural value than 99% of posted photos.
>>72241612
WE WUZ FAMOUS PAINTINGS AND SHIT
This thread has being a great experience, It confirmed the idea that Great Culture is to be celebrated, restored and perpetuated. This ideals fuel the nationalistic movement, only movement that can save an entire nation.
But this ideas should never stay in our screens, I encourage everyone to remember this pieces and act. Print them, search for more; Keep the flame burning and never forget the ideals they represent
>>72239833
>NatSoc
>Objective Esthetics
Ain't fooling me m800
>>72254167
Greatest Ally, go home
>>72251828
Some Kittelsen
Here's a classic cold-war Russian cartoon that (perhaps intentionally) ends up supporting traditional standbys like social hierarchy and heroic figures in the face of foreign invasion. Amazing what they accomplished on what must have been a very tight budget.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KguUtafZtN8
>>72254907
Oh, it shows folk religion, too. Forgot to mention that. Anyways, I'll check back on the thread later to see how it will have shaped up in the end.
>>72255124
This is the end...
>>72247195
>this will be Europe 2025 after the race war
>not sure if white women will be cheering for mudslimes or their own, European men
Otherwise, a beautiful piece of art
>>72243716
>"muh 'street art' is better than that disgusting graffiti"
>>72239833
bumping for interest
I'm an art dealer. I mostly sell 19th century art, and I spend most of my life hunting fine pieces morning to night, all over Europe. Unfortunately, fellow Europeans and Americans no longer buy that kind of art since they are all craving on post-60s art, so I mostly export to Russia and Asian countries.
Feel free to ask me any question related to art, especially 19th century art.
>Pic related is by Charles-Louis Müller, a painter who was quite famous back then. He painted a ceiling in the Louvre museum.
>>72239833
link to your tumblr?
>>72257183
More info on that?
>>72257427
Here >>72248236
>>72257183
Any way to contact you?
This sculpture was the most praised and famous sculpture in 1870s France. It's called "Gloria Victis!".
It was made right after the defeat of the Franco-Prussian war. The artist was only 27 years old.
It depicts an allegory of defeat, carrying the body of a dead Frenchman.
The title is a play on "Vae Victis" (Woe to the Defeated); instead of woe, it's now "glory to the defeated" (Gloria Victis). It's a vengeful sculpture against the German empire.
You can find some of these throughout in the world. There are few big ones: one in Paris, one in Copenhagen, and one somewhere in some US museum.
Donald Trump also owns a smaller version of that one.
Good thread
>>72257706
Since you have a tumblr, I will contact you through your tumblr. I will make an account or something like that. It would be a delight to discuss more about art.
This one here is by an American artist, Abbott Thayer. He was active during the 19th century, and 20th century.
He mostly depicted birds and animals, and even came up with color theories. But he was also more well-known for depicting women as absolutely pure and beautiful, in a chaste way.
>>72257542
About the ceiling?
There you go.
You can still see it nowadays when you go to the Louvre. It's in a room right after the huge "red" room, if you're any familiar with this museum.
Shame there's a small touristy shop in that small room since last year.
>>72239975
>playing drums in the middle of battle
This is why you UKucks lost the war
>>72257183
very cool. I wish more cultures appreciated art like the French do.
>>72242107
No it's not, it depicts the opening of the Opéra Garnier, in 1873 I think. Anyway, after the Franco-Prussian war. Kinda ironic, because it's typical Nap III style, and yet he never could see the opera house with his own eyes.
This one here is a minor painter (Aimé Perret) but nonetheless quite nice. He always depicted peasants doing peasant things. I find it very nice and soothing.
>>72240815
Damn
>>72258632
>>72242313
That's a comfy pic, anon.
Normally I see this type of thread and try to argue with you losers by trying to explain why modernism actually gave rise to some immensely interesting, substantial compositions. But that's exhausting and you faggots won't ever actually bother to learn anything about history, criticism, or theory.
So instead, here's a neat Matisse.
>>72242614
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Cardinal Richelieu was such a boss.
>>72259509
>some immensely interesting, substantial compositions
Modernists are so full of banal horseshit, I could probably create an AI to write their crit columns and no one would suspect a thing.
>>72258512
I love their expressions
>>72260024
Modernism does have brilliant works though. The problem is we are exposed to all of it whereas the shit versions of historical periods remained locked in some manor or in a crate.
>>72258604
I need to go back to visit France, I was in Germany last easter, should have seeing more museums tho
>>72241849
Jesus christ, this seems so lazy.
>>72239833
OP your blog has a great aesthetic
Posting from my phone so sorry if the picture is not good.
I took this picture in a church. It is revolting. It's about to collapse. The city doesn't want to fund the repairing. I wonder where is the money going...
Ceiling painting is by Adolphe Roger...
I took this one last week in Prague.
It's by Alfons Mucha.
Is Rodin degenerate?
Ulpiano Checa - The rape of proserpina
>>72261714
Aw crap, it somehow tilted.
Anyway, this painting here is by Bartholdi. Yup, the same guy who designed the Statue of Liberty. This painting depicts California in a golden age of agriculture, instead of fooling around random gold digging. It's clearly a moralistic painting.
Title is "California, Now".
Merlin and Vivien - Gustave Dore
>>72239833
>>72263080
Thread's still up!
>french smallsword training
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcbrLPtEDDI
>>72261714
I don't know much about Mucha, which is a disgrace. I have to learn more about him. Was this taken in his museum btw?
>>72262178
Very nice.
>>72262366
You can't go wrong with Doré.
>>72263459
Yes, I took this in Prague, at the Veletrzni palace.
They also house the Slav Epic. You must go see it.
>>72259501
Everything done by Norman Rockwell is comfy
>>72261714
>Alfons Mucha
Wow, I love this
>>72262122
I would't know, I need a bit of context if i want to analyse the main ideas behind it
Isle of the Dead. I can look at it for ages and get lost in it.
Some Tolkien art. Ted Nasmith is my favorite, alongside John Howe, but there are many of great Tolkien artists.
Maybe a bit naive but very imaginative.
>>72240653
>>72241388
It's just an enduring symbol of how critical theory kikes and muslims are filthy godless trash lower than cockroaches.
