TRUMP's gonna kill NATO. Good. Fuck it. Who should be allowed into the new alliance, /pol/?
I say Canada and the US join to make the North America Treaty Organization, and that's all. Just protect North America, fuck everyone else I could not give a single fuck, and I certainly would not spare a single soldier.
>>72218446
If Trump ends NATO the US empire is finished. It's not about "protecting" other nations. It's about keeping the armies of Europe in line and provoking Russia and other US enemies. Nationalists like Le Pen are opposed to it for good reason.
>>72218446
If we could focus on our Continent we wouldn't need a single thing from the rest of the world, Fix the US Canada and Mexico the rest of the world can go to hell in a hand basket.
>>72218583
fuck off shill
>>72218916
It' true you bluepilled fuck
>>72218751
Yes. We should just sell all the freeloading Eurotrash to Russia, solve a lot of problems.
>>72218583
Good, they should fuck off back to their end of the world.
>>72218446
>>72218583
>nato disbands
>eternal austrian/german starts expanding EU
>a few years later it has gone full communist and starts WW3
Please help.
>>72218446
The glorious Anglospere shall be eternal.
>U.S
>Canada
>U.K
>Austalia
>New Zealand
In case you were wondering
>>72218583
>>72219021
That's what it WAS for. It no longer serves that purpose, they fucked up by doing shit like letting Latvia and Turkey in. Now the whole thing makes no god-damn sense.
>>72218751
Yeah. Europe can have their own alliance if they want, really not my problem if Russia wants to take over Ukraine.
>>72218446
>>72218751
>what happens outside of our continent does not affect the United States.
This right here. This is what fucking scares me about Trump and his supporters. I'm not scared of him because I think he's racist or fascist. I'm scared because his isolationist, protectionist policies in trade and foreign relations will trigger trade wars that will utterly ruin the American and global economy.
You guys are fucking morons.
>>72218446
>Canada
Kick out the fairy you people voted as prime minister if you want that to happen
The only alliances we should have should be with our Eternal Anglo brothers desu fampai. The French, Germans, and the rest of the Islamic State of Europe can go fuck themselves.
>>72219313
Deus Vult AngloBro
>>72218583
Too bad Europe is incapable of maintaining an army huh? The poor fucks must have absolutely no way of defending themselves once big papa America leaves I guess.
Fuck off you lazy ungrateful assholes, we're not going to be your guard dog anymore.
>>72219336
>You guys are fucking morons.
No, I'm a soldier who understands the consequences of war.
>hurr durr Turkey got attacked, let's send our young men to die in the mud defending a Turkish village
>Russia is in Latvia! Send our best and brightest to die protecting the potato farms!
It's not in our national interests to be in alliance with 90% of Nato countries, if we want to use military force we can decide on a case by case basis.
These nations exist because WE have a military, why is MY life the deterrent for countries half way across the world not to fight eachother? My life and training is a deterrent to prevent invasion of Canada and North America, fuck your evil idea that you can pimp out the service of myself and other military veterans to other nations.
>>72219313
UUCAN
>>72219531
The reason european countries are not building an army is because you're protecting them.
Once you leave you can expect them to start militarize again.
>>72218446
can we join we got some sexy special forces thats worth something right?
>>72218916
good goy.
>>72219150
I agree.
>>72219304
NATO and the EU are intertwined, if one goes the other will follow.
>>72219335
>That's what it WAS for. It no longer serves that purpose, they fucked up by doing shit like letting Latvia and Turkey in. Now the whole thing makes no god-damn sense.
Consider where Latvia is. The US has no business in eastern Europe. Georgia is also joining. They're aiming to encircle Russia. Turkey serves as an outpost in the Middle East to help undermine anti-US states.
fuck europe, i want a mediterranean alliance so we can be lazy fucks all together and enjoy life, while aryans and anglos can go fuck themselves in their fog filled mudholes
t. italian living in cuckmany
>>72219313
This sheep fucking inbred has the right idea.
>>72219462
No, Trudeau is bretty gud, /pol/ just fell for a meme (which I suspect may be shill inspired)
Quotes like "if we kill our enemies, they win". That quote is completely fabricated, google it, try to find it. He never said this. /pol/ just fell for a bunch of fake quotes.
Same with the apologies to natives and hundred year old immigrants, /pol/ shills make everyone think it's a big deal - in reality everyone in Canada is happy that the apology is finally being made so that nobody can bitch about it anymore and we can finally just bury and move past old garbage.
Made me disillusioned with /pol/ to be honest, I saw how easily the entire board fell for fabricated nonsense and succumbed to the opinion of a few posters posting often.
And you have no right to call Trudeau any names, because you have had 8 years of Obama. Other word leaders treat him like a cuck despite being POTUS, he has spent 8 years having his masculinity questioned, he doesn't compete with pic related. His dad was a fuckboi and so is he. Better a fuckboi than a cuckboi
>>72218446
Just swap Russia with T*rkroachistan and begin the glassing of Middle East. Now if a nuke or two go accidentally to Israel, I believe it's within the margin of collateral damage
>>72219470
>limeys are our bros
>the french aren't
Jesus fucking Christ this is a treasonous post.
>>72218446
U.S. should keep ANZUS and form a new military pact with Canada, France and Russia. The UK too if Labour promises to never win again.
Fuck NATO as a body though, it's a money pit.
>>72219821
Yes. UK is now in as well.
I think we may cap it at 3 members folks. I really don't know what Australia and NZ have to offer.
>>72219531
uk and france have mighty fine armies
>>72220243
The French kicked us out of their country after WWII and told us to fuck off, then acted like they won it themselves. They might have been bros in the past but they can fuck off now.
>>72218446
>TRUMP's gonna kill NATO.
Well, if you want another world war, this is how you get another world war.
>>72218446
I think that's a great idea actually. But, we should include mexico. If we policed mexico as a continent, it would be awesome. Tropical settings, slightly brown women, and a happy people, if we fucked up the cartel.
>>72220133
how much do you get for shilling ?
>>72220321
>The French kicked us out of their country after WWII and told us to fuck off, then acted like they won it themselves.
That was banter anon. The French are our oldest allies and revolutionary brothers.
>>72220321
Their national sovereignty and pride is important to them. There's nothing wrong with that. But the real problem was saying the british are our friends. At best they're lackeys, and they got us into this mess of foreign entanglements in the first place.
>>72218446
What's a NATO? We arnt in it and there are no Russians here.
>>72218446
Let us join the new TrumpTO please. Never warmed up to NATO much because of all the pussies in it, but this new thing sounds good.
>>72220267
The Aussies have ships, main battle tanks, air superiority fighters etc. NZ only has like 10k military personnel, with 400/500 of those being special forces.
We're basically a 2 for 1 deal lol
>>72218446
Canada, Mexico, Russia, and any European nations against Muslim cucking
>>72218446
not going to happen unfortunately. The powers that be don't want European countries to remilitarize, so NATO will stay
>>72220567
Are you Anglo?
No?
>fuckoffwerefull.jpg
>>72220133
>Quotes like "if we kill our enemies, they win". That quote is completely fabricated,
Okay but what about 100% legitimate quotes like this?
>>72218446
its okay
if NATO would be kill americans have to piss out of many countries
>>72220321
You act like you won it at all. WWII was Germany vs Soviets, with a special small guest appearance by the western front and pacific theatre - both of those entire theatres together multiplied by 6 or 7 doesn't even equal the number of deaths and scale of the battle along the eastern front.
>>72218446
>Europian INDEPENDANT nation states ally with Russia.
>Rape the middle east with North America, >reclaim constantinople,
>(re)build Africa.
>World peace achieved.
>>72220621
>the overlords won't allow it
I've got happy news friend
>>72220608
Also Cuba
You guys don't realize how NATO benefits the USA? Holy fuck you guys are so retarded
>>72220492
For Trudeau? Not sure that's a thing. Anti-Trudeau people don't get paid either, I'm comparing them to shills because it's the same concept - a couple losers spend all day on /pol/ posting their opinion, and since it happens constantly /pol/ thinks it's the actual belief of Canadians. US posters think we don't like Trudeau, and they've seen a bunch of fake quotes, and it's all been pushed by maybe 10-20 faggy leaf posters who just bitch about Canada and Trudeau all day.
A couple leafs started complaining constantly like whiny faggots, /pol/ took their complaints seriously and the Trudeau meme was born
>>72220959
Teach us senpai
>>72220133
Good goy is what he is
USA
Canada
Japan
South Korea
Poland
>>72220133
Explain this you fucking leaf
>>72221154
oops I forgot that Australia exists, add them and NZ
Post your dream alliances:
USA
Japan
Russia
Independent GB
Fuck everyone else
>>72220959
It's the neocons drilling it into the minds of Americans that NATO is noble, that those damn Europeans are at fault for everything, that Putin is an evil commie.
Americans can moan about the costs all they want but that's what you have to pay if you want to keep a continent under your boot. Empires are never profitable.
>>72220492
He doesn't need to shill when Canadian media will go full on North Korea for Trudeau
>>72221067
America has hundreds of bases overseas, you benefit from this by imposing your influence through your currency and politically
Even if literally every single American didn't want to be in nato/wherever, it wouldn't matter. Foreign policy is based on external fsctors not internal politics. America has hegemony it's the only world power. If you stopped/pulled out support from like iraq or the Pacific you'd leave a ripple effect which would ultimately fuck you or
>>72221080
>>72221333
Over*
>>72220267
ok nice, we can offer the challenger, and a good position in Europe aswell :)
>>72221242
We should keep South Korea, they are worth having. Eleventh highest GDP (ahead of Canada) with first class and quite large military and a long history of friendship with the United States.
I think we should pull out of South Korea for the most part simply because they don't need us, they would wreck Best Korea unless China attacked at the same time or muh nukes. We should keep the military pact though.
>>72218446
>Atlantic treaty 2.0
>No countries from the other side of the atlantic
A FUCKING LEAF
We dont need murican freedom faggots who act like they are the police of the world
>>72218446
Canada, UK, Ireland, Aussie, NZ, Norway. Anglos and vikings.
This core alliance should maintain tier2/vassal state relations w/ eu, japan, s korea
The death of NATO means the rise of the Intermarium.
Quite hyped.
>>72220745
Not defending that quote. Stupid, stupid thing to say.
But also doesn't portray how he has acted, as Prime Minister, at all.
Fact is, we have no problem with extremism in Canada. The last two "ISIS" attacks were white guys who lost their nut and attacked Canadian soldiers. There were a couple incidents with knives in Toronto, turned out to be Dindus on drugs freaking the fuck out.
I've talked with Canadian special forces (CSOR) members, as well as RCMP members. We're still putting massive resources into counter-insurgency with special forces across the middle east, and our counter-terror police units are trained up to some of the best in the world right now - my cousin just got back from cross-training with the Brits, we're fully prepared.
The pictures of him with Jews, Muslims, Sikhs etc praying is a good thing. He has essentially cemented himself as fair to all Canadians and made it very clear that the Canadian government doesn't govern based on identity, his apologies for 50+ year old things have stopped people from being able to bitch about 50 year old problems or requesting the government to treat them better now to compensate.
He said like, 1 stupid thing, is pro LGBT (which nobody in Canada has cared about since the 90s), and pro weed (since when has this been a problem for /pol/?)
And yet look at the meme it's turned into. I'm only writing so much because I'm honestly at a loss, I figure the board is well informed but after this I'm seeing how easily it'll just eat up a non-factual meme just because le cuck
>>72218446
>baltic states won't be protected anymore
>russia
NATO is just the military arm of neoliberal American empire.
EU is just their tool to extend their power over Europe. They won't let it fail (see: UK), but they won't let it become anything real either.
Now if you believe paranoia over Russia is more important than what's happening in Europe right now, then support NATO and EU. But stop believing this isn't connected. It's all connected.
But it doesn't serve European interests at all.
>>72218446
>implying a single president can just make the usa leave nato
>implying congress would allow him
>implying trump will become president anyway
YOU'LL BE PROTECTING US FOREVER
besides, the usa would never give up nato and lose influence in other countries.
>>72221812
I trust Putin with Eastern Europe more than I trust the Merkelreich
>>72221812
Meh, if NATO can't protect small countries like Baltics, what can they protect? About Turkey I agree, though.
>>72219313
you forgot you good 'ol indian colony in the mix
>>72219313
Came here to say this. This is all we need.
>>72220267
Australia has damn fine soldiers and damn fine women. NZ has excellent land for military training maneuvers... And more good land.
>>72221921
>Eastern Europe
>>72221699
What about him hiring a bunch of vaginas for his cabinet because of vaginal reasons?
>>72221921
>Trusting the russians with Eastern Europe
>Ever
Wew
>>72218446
NATO is the Jew Army for attacking the citizens of the its own supporters trying to take Americans Guns away from patriots protecting the country
>>72219531
This, hell, the only reason they have those bullshit social programs and give their citizens everything for free is because we spend all the money on their military. The EU has a greater GPD than America for fucks sake and they have the gall to constantly criticize us on our government but also hold their hand out for our support
>>72220479
Anglosphere invasion and colonization of Mexico, full on 1700's style. No other option is gonna clean that place up.
>>72221937
JUST me up, fellow balt
>>72220567
You guys can start MONGLO
>>72221080
>Image is a drop from 0.1 to 0, ie nothing
Harper sold off most of the reserves after 2011, we had almost nothing left. Our government policy for years has to been slowly get rid of the gold, he just finished off a decade old policy. You fell for the meme, because someone posted an image and you liked it. You also fell for the gold reserves meme, /pol/ told you that hainv gold reserves are important to a country and you believe it - holding gold is no more valuable inherently than holding Oil or holding uranium. Good Goy Fin, believe everything a /pol/ image tells you.
>>72221155
He's not redpilled. Somehow Trudeau is LOL KEK when the entire US establishment and politicians are funded by these globalist scum? Trudeau just met him, at least he's not getting millions in funding and being directed by him like US politicians. Say what you want about Trudeau, nobody has ever accused him of corruption or thinks that he is in politics for money.
>>72221369
This is tradition, at state dinners between the US and Canada the Canadian PM sits with the Presidents wife and the Presidents wife sits with the PM. The top image is them kissing on the cheek - again, done at every single state dinner. Have you seen Trudeaus wife compared to Obamas? Are you seriously now trying to act like Obama is some cool wife-stealing player? When about 90% of the buzz surrounding Trudeau internationally was girls going off about how hot he is?
Pic related
Good goy, remember that image collages are the only think you need to form an opinion. LOL KEK RITE
Germany will protect europe from russia
>>72221641
>North AMERICAN Treaty Organization
A FUCKING ... literally who? The memes are only funny if they come from a relevant country, why would portugal making fun of Canada make any sense?
>>72222220
close but no hepts!
>>72221242
USA
UK
Canada
STRAYA
New Zealand
south africa*
and then we liberate brittany from the french and return it to a sovereign celtic nation
*conditional, on the reinstatement of apartheid
>>72222443
How's life in UK? Enjoying it???!
>>72222793
Germany can't even protect itself. How do you want to protect Europe?
>>72222825
C-can we join?
>>72222825
I motion to keep a seat warm for Rhodesia in case white zimbabweans ever get their shit together and retake their country
>>72222858
north of the M1 is rolling hills and white people
south of the M1 is diversity and authoritarianism
>>72221921
This is a joke, right?
>right?
>>72218446
English speaking Anglo countries only (With the exception of Japan & South Korea).
>>72222998
Of course you can!
If you leave europe.
>>72218446
Trump isn't going to win, but even if he did he doesn't have dictatorial powers.
Only Congress could approve breaking our most important treaty.
>>72223025
Isn't Bradford north of the m1?
>>72222975
When its going hard we get ready for shit, we already managed once to invade your country. Without help from murica russia would be fucked
>>72223099
doesnt he have some kind of executive order or something he can make that is literally like a dictator's edict?
>>72223151
Not quite
>>72218446
Make the Unified Continental States (UCS)
Basically:
1)US
2) Canada
3)Everything below US.
>>72218446
Trump-Putin Bro Alliance.
>>72223151
I blame the trains. As soon as a town gets a train station, its fucked. I want to build Hadrian's wall 2, a bit further south, the romans were onto something
>>72222820
>North ATLANTIC Treaty Organization
So is canadian education as bad as american education?
The New Nato
>>72218583
>provoking Russia
seriously dude?
we have a tiny fraction of the forces we had in Europe during the cold war; literally just a token force
the relative balance of forces NATO vis-a-vis Russia is lower than 30 years ago because we have pulled so much of our assets out while Russia has rebuilt their military
If the Russians wanted to they could push all the way to Berlin before encountering any meaningful resistance.
the 'we're proving russia' meme is pure sophistry and you're fucking retaded if you take this at face value without thinking critically
>>72223170
>Without help from murica russia would be fucked
Ok, my brainwashed friend.
But what is wrong if we divide Eastern Europe together? Isn't Russo-German border is the best border?
>>72223278
You do need to be wary of the Eternal Pict
>>72223060
No. Russia will rule you with tender loving care. Your chances of getting raped on the subway by a Somali child soldier will dramatically plummet.
>>72222331
I'd be pissed if the cabinet wasn't actually good. I actually was pissed when he said that, but as it turns out the cabinet is actually really good and he gave the quickest answer that wasn't "I'm pandering to women", which is the real answer.
He's been groomed since childhood to be leader of the Liberal party, turns out he actually ended up developing a good team and good connections in the government. Seems like his cabinet was going to end up about 50/50 anyways, so a few non-essential positions got some vaginas to fill the seats so he could pander.
It's not like he's pulled a Europe and made the defense minister a chick, our new defense minister is an ex soldier and commander of a unit in Afghanistan.
>>72223446
I'm more concerned about the eternal cockney. i want to live on the celtic side of the wall
>>72223186
it is in our constitution that a president cannot approve treaties or make changes to them without 2/3 of the senate
executive branch is the strongest but there are still major checks and balances on its power
>>72223443
>http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm
But Sasha, he's right.
>>72220291
Yeah but the UK and France are pretty much the only country with a based population that is against mass immigration of those fucks.
Brexit.
>>72223443
>But what is wrong if we divide Eastern Europe together? Isn't Russo-German border is the best border?
I would be a good idea aslong russia accept German borders
>>72223603
the trump defence force needs to get on that and infiltrate the senate. if the jews and marxists can do it, you can do it - anything is possible in the land of opportunity
>>72218446
Angle Alliance, plus Russia.
Stipulations that members must contribute minimum 10% of their GDP to militaries.
>>72222443
FIŠ I ČIPS
>>72223666
>the US is the saviour of the world, won WW2
USA USA USA!
>>72219840
>Brit
>opposed to dissolution of the EU and NATO
Color me surprised, Abdulla
>>72219961
Renew the Roman Empire
>>72218446
All yuros need to fuck off Neo NATO 2.0 2000.
Countries in neo NATO 2.0 2000.
>USA
>Russia
>all Slavic countries
>Israel
We must unite to defeat the ancient evil, Shitslam will be eradicated once and for all. For the glory of our Lord an saviour Jesus Christ. Byzentinium and Alexandria shall be Christian again. DEUS VULT
>>72223374
It's better than your education, you... literally who?
Why do these irrelevant countries think they are part of the bantz? If I only know about your country because I know geography, and there is literally no reason to know about your country otherwise, are you really a country or are you just a name given to the blank space between real countries?
You're just a filler state, we can't have unclaimed land anymore so you are the tribal people living in the demilitarized zone between actual civilizations.
>>72222858
Yeah, really enjoying it...
>>72218446
>Who should be allowed into the new alliance, /pol/?
People who actually have a fucking military, which by definition excludes 90% of Europe.
We should just let Visegrad become a thing and arm V4 with American shit. That would serve both purposes: Containing Russia, and keeping muzzie bullshit quarantined.
>>72223992
>Countries in neo NATO 2.0 2000.
>Israel
Get fucked.
This right here
>>72224344
this
>>72224344
Pretty sure the Swiss could beat everyone in that pic, combined.
>>72224049
>irrelevant country meme
>implying Canada is relevant as anything but the butt of America
So who is the filler state?
NATO is the Pax Americana. If it goes, America as as a superpower goes. Europe will develop its own foreign policy and defense strategy, and eventually it'll become incongruent with American foreign policy.
Here's the thing. Being the world's most powerful country is about more than just having the largest military, it'll only get you so far. Rome ruled for over 400 years, various European powers held the mantle for centuries, Spain, France and from 1815 to 1939, the British Empire.
America only became absolute in the early 1980s, when Brezhnev was finally done ravaging the Soviet Union. It's now only 2016, and America has lost every proxy war it started, it's political structure has polarized to the point of collapse, is clamoring for a president that would dissolve the foundation of its power projection, begging the rivals of old to rise once more, and is buckling under social decay and degeneracy.
America, its values and its resolve just aren't strong enough to achieve what Europe's empires achieved in the past. You were not meant to, America is founded on liberty and justice, not empire. I don't know if he's aware of it or not, I assume he isn't, but Trump has it right. End NATO.
Trump 2016. Make America Great Again.
Why does the United States need allies at all? Europe is worthless for trade anymore and now it's full of trash from the Middle East.
Who the fuck cares, go fuck yourselves until you have something of value to trade.
I give no fucks if NATO dissolved tomorrow.
>>72224643
we will smash murcia together if they provoke it
>>72223926
What? I'm absolutely in favour of dissolving both and telling your degenerate shithole to fuck off. British should be governed from London, not Washington or Brussels. I'm just letting you know you're fucked when NATO goes, Tyrone.
>>72219313
In which way are new Zealand Canada and the united cuckdom of any benefit in this alliance, what do they contribute other then land for our bases
>>72224882
The only ones fucked are Turkey and Europe
We'll ally with Russia and allow them to retake Constantinople
>>72224882
Because when the Europeans governed themselves that went smashingly?
Moscow and Washington did a far better job than the Europeans could.
>>72224976
It's a European world, baby. You're just living in it.
>>72224830
This is what a cuck looks like.
>>72224734
With great power comes great responsibility. Poltards, as always, seem to fail to understand that.
>NATO disbands
>EU has to fend for itself
>Germans now posted in Poland/Estonia
>>72218446
New Zealand, Israel, and Japan are our only allies in this shitskin world
>>72225026
Europe is completely worthless, contains no value.
Cucked? You are asking for Muslims to come cuck your continent and for Americans to protect you from the Russians in order to genocide yourselves. Who is the fucking cuck here.
>>72225233
> europe is completely worthless
> that's why america's been shitting itself for 50+ years trying to control/subvert it
Please get the fuck out of Europe.
>>72223428
You started a revolution in Ukraine, strong-armed the Baltic states into joining NATO, now you're trying to remove Assad, an ally of Putin to contain the Russian Navy. There is absolutely no reason for US assets to be in Eastern Europe and the Caucasus, other than containing Russian ambitions and preventing anything resembling the USSR from taking shape ever again.
>>72224958
>le constantinople meme
I hate Turkey but that's never going to happen. Europe will be fine, we'll be allowed to re-arm and pursue a proper independent policy and watch the Petrodollar sink.
>>72224976
Well it did. Ever since the US became a superpower and imposed the Marshall Plan we've been subjected to mass immigration and liberalism originating from the US, no thanks to the Zionists and neocons that run your country.
>>72225233
If by "protecting against Russians" you guys are planning on starting more coups on European soil so a bunch of jew oligarchs can buy up the land, then you can eat shit.
>>72224344
HA!
You Germniggers spend all your money on refugees instead of an army. You are the last fuckers we want as a military ally.
Fork over the protection cash or get lost.
>>72225233
Your shithole of country was created by europe states and was founded by them
>>72224306
You have to go back Keith
>>72225298
Washington has done a great job, look at how you faggots live when you don't have to pay for shit.
Should give you a bill for the Marshall plan and for defending you faggots for so long. Your precious continent would be communist shit if we hadn't came and saved you dipshits.
Go ahead, if you had a pair of balls you would have kicked out Washington and Moscow years ago.
>>72225383
You have a literal nigger as president.
>>72225367
>You started a revolution in Ukraine
When will this meme die already? Too much RT for you kid.
>>72224734
>NATO is the Pax Americana. If it goes, America as as a superpower goes. Europe will develop its own foreign policy and defense strategy, and eventually it'll become incongruent with American foreign policy.
See, this is why I don't take much stock in what foreigners say about NATO or American military power, because they don't really seem to understand what it is they're talking about. I guess 70 years of peace will do that to you. America will continue to be a superpower even if NATO is abolished, as we ARE all that you know as NATO. I mean, do Euros really think Turkey contributes that much to what we do? France? Germany? We had to supply you with bombs and fuel because you all ran out after two weeks of airstrikes on Libya. Fucking Libya.
And your current EU foreign policy and defense strategy appears to be: Appease Muslims at all cost, invite millions of them in, defund the military for social programs for the Muslims, and then quietly stew in socialist decay. If NATO dissolves, in all likelihood, so will your nation. I mean, you're not going to become Rome 2.0 because we left town. You're just not. If anything, your continental situation will get drastically worse. The only nation deserving of American military respect is, at the moment, Poland.
>>72225233
Who gives a fuck about the refugees? We sure don't, they rot in our camps and will become our wage slaves. Capitalism eats the weak, and shitskins are weak people.
You're the cuck. You say Europe has no value, it has every value. You would trade everything America has achieved since 1945 because of a meme. You're weak.
>>72223428
>what is georgia
>what is ukraine
You've provoked the russkies like there's no tomorrow by expanding your nato-borders towards the russkies. Something you signed not to do.
>>72225460
Israel has done absolutely nothing for the American defense situation. In fact, they've done a lot to harm it. Those Iranian nuclear scientists that were carbombed were killed by terrorists paid by Mossad agents posing as CIA, so when the cookie jar finally slammed shut, Iran blamed us. Nice fucking "ally".
>>72225383
Germany is a sleeping giant and is not realy much affected by the refugee crisis. When we need we can rebuild a big army easy
>>72218446
pls no it's my only option for living elsewhere than France
>>72225482
> don't have to pay for shit
> Europe largest economy
Are you talking about your useless as fuck patrols? Same could be done with nuclear deterrent, your Donald Cucks can go get cucked somewhere else.
>Muh Russia
Alliance between two strong is retarded and will only help make Russia stronger. A real ass nigga (USA) unites the weak fuckboys (UK, Germany, France) and leads them against a strong opponent. A retarded ass nigga makes an alliance with a strong nigga and only ends up making him stronger
>Russia joine NATO
>Gets land hungry and starts invading other nations
>American has to back Russia
>American soldiers now dying to make Russia more powerful and stronger
>Somehow America is great again
Yall nikkas dumb af fa.m
>>72225524
You sound uneducated.
>>72218446
While I agree that Nato must be killed, fuck you dude leaf. Its this exact kind of traitorous behavior that is the reason our countries can't be friends anymore.
Anyway the fact remains that the USA doesn't need you maple-syrup drinking Trudeau voting faggots.
>>72225530
Ok, let's see what you can do stormfag, when you finally leave your apartment and the mudslimes kick the shit out of you, don't cry to me.
Oh, and we will be waiting.
>>72225521
>Being this bluepilled on /pol/
Geoffrey R. Pyatt, Nuland, George Soros & McCain ring any bells?
smdh
>>72225705
The eat bluepills for breakfast in the butthurt belt. Can't justify spending taxes on 2nd hand amerilard humvees any other way.
Would probably shit themselves if they knew how much of a target they painted on their back with their anal-pain.
>>72225521
SHUT UP PRIBALTI FASHISTI UKRAINE CIA-FUNDED FASHIST JUNTA KILL INNOCENT RUSSIAN CIVILIANS!!!
>>72225521
Welcome to /pol/
It would be better for you to sit in readonly , even 2 weeks
>>72225604
Germany can't build a huge army, that money is tied up in too many socialist welfare programs and subsidies to industry.
Or do you think BMW etc were actually profitable? They are government subsidized nigger, you wouldn't be able to afford your healthcare, education etc anymore if you build a huge army.
Good luck stormfags getting it done, will be waiting for you to get it done.
>>72225690
> we will be waiting
You're gonna drive up here on your scooter, fatboy?
>>72225705
yeah no, and orange revolution was financed by those guys too? And he calls me bluepilled. Back to your shed, cuck.
>nato close
>non warmongering countries do nato 2.0
>usa and israel alone in their peace and democracy new club
>>72225705
>>72225798
>all these countries that don't border russia claiming that they know russia and russians better than countries that have centuries of history dealing with them
you are the real bluepilled faggots, naive westerners.
>>72225906
> he thinks color revolutions did not have NGO involvement all over
Back to /int/, potatonigger.
>>72225653
I'm telling you how it is, bro. Netherlands doesn't even have MBTs last I checked. Your female defense minister sold them all and the maintenance savings went to social programs that are disproportionately used by Muslim colonists. We had a lovely thread about this very topic over a year ago where your nation's budget was broke down to see where the money went. And by 'lovely' I mean deeply depressing.
>>72225383
>You Germniggers spend all your money on refugees instead of an army.
You think Merkel would get Lebensraum im Osten, e.g. conquer old commie states, with an army?
They just wait until burgers putsch the fuck out of them and pick up the pieces.
If european countries weren't so horribly democratic ukraine would be part of the EU.
We don't need an army to conquer the world.
But go on and send your soldiers in the desert to die for israel.
>>72225906
Don't you know it is impossible for people to protest against corrupt pro-Russian oligarchs? All Ukrainians unconditionally support St. Putin and those who don't are paid protesters from Ukraine. After all, no individual can independently decide to protest against their leader!
>>72225932
If it wasn't for Russia, you'd still be part of Sweden, you fucked mongo.
Go open a book.
>>72225690
I'm not a stormfag, Muslim minorities are just weak competitors in western society. They're losers, always have been, always will be. This goes for migrants and nations alike. They could have conquered the world, but they were even weaker than you are. I guess that's comfort for you.
>mudslimes kick the shit out of you
If you live in areas where there are copious amounts of losers, you must be a loser.
>Oh, and we will be waiting.
Like cucks do.
PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
>>72225932
I know, right?
>>72219336
Well with a 58 billion trade deficit from Mexico, not to mention the 500+ billion trade deficit from China, I am willing to let a trade war happen. Do we need to be economic pushovers? Hell no.
I don't really care if Russia absorbs all of Eastern Europe anyway. It is just what Russia does.
>>72225960
>people fucking tired of corruption and russian puppet politicans
>muh soros, muh jews
You western cucks are truly pathetic.
>>72225653
You sound brainwashed from consuming toothpaste aquafresh.
NATO was created to prevent a communist Europe and now you guys are more commie then modern day Russia and you don't spend a dime on military because you ride off our coat tails.
Were done with it.
If you guys think maxrist programs are so great lets see if you can afford them without an army.
>>72225975
The shameful state of our defense is because our degenerate leaders are too comfortable sucking America's tit. That is exactly how American power projection works, my niglet. It's called a benevolent hegemon. This is why I want NATO to die. Cold shower these motherfuckers, and we'll be truckin' around in glorious Panzers in no time. Can't wait.
>>72226198
The jews meme and especially Soros are jokes
Anyone who says otherwise is a dumbass
>>72226029
If it was up to Russia, we wouldn't exist because we would have been russified to extinction. Luckily Germans sent Lenin to Russkieland to fuck some shit up.
Besides, Sweden was a constitutional monarchy after the Napoleonic period. We could have easily voted to secede like Norway did in 1905, you russkie-cocksucking faggot.
>>72226198
> people tired of corruption
> "protest"
> pro-russian oligarchs replaced with pro-western puppets
> still poor as fuck, but now have very angry neighbour
Good job.
>>72226198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIfYQhZPXbs
>>72224049
>didn't know what NATO meant
>gets called out by a country he doesn't recognize like a true Canadian Burger
>REEEEE WHO ARE THESE GUYS
>>72226198
Don't worry Latviabro, I know that feeling. These westerners are just oblivious as fuck to the true nature of the eternal russkie. Maybe if they had the misfortune of being next to them, they'd understand. They don't have it in their blood like we do.
>>72218583
FPBP
+ it's also to prevent European countries from having a strong army. They are keeping us addicted to US military force so that we don't invest in our military anymore
>>72226069
>>72218446
We should start some Command and Conquer shit.
Anyone wanna throw out some 3 letter alliances?
We should make our own flag too.
>>72226300
>Luckily Germans sent Lenin to Russkieland
>>72226388
>I say Canada and the US join to make the North America Treaty Organization
Is what I said in the OP. You lack reading comprehension, burger. Don't encourage no-name countries
>>72226328
>Yeah, like Rome was built in one day
Just stop replying, you dumb fuck!
>>72226279
Okay America gone when?
Ironically I still believe in the Euro-American consensus. Just not on this basis.
>>72226328
>New parliamentary constitution
>No more russkie puppet as a president
>Reorganization of the government including abolishment of inefficient ministries and replacing the corrupt militsiya with a real police force
>Detailed plan for integration with the West
Seems like 5/5 deal to me.
Better dead than under russkie boot.
>>72219313
Fuck off, we stopped being anglo when you limey lobster back fucks kept being niggers.
>>72226508
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin#First_World_War:_1914.E2.80.9317
>When Lenin learned of this from his base in Switzerland, he celebrated with other dissidents.[128] He decided to return to Russia to take charge of the Bolsheviks, but found that most passages in to the country were blocked due to the ongoing conflict. He organised a plan with other dissidents to negotiate a passage for them through Germany, with whom Russia was then at war. Recognising that these dissidents could cause problems for their Russian enemies, the German government agreed to permit 32 Russian citizens to travel in a train carriage through their territory, among them Lenin and his wife.
Learn your history, Åke.
>>72226535
> THE POTATO-FARMER THINKS HES ROMAN
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Nigger, name one major economic reform your country has had in the last 20 years.
Selling off factories and having half of your population run away to Europe, doesn't count.
>>72226625
>germans
>not the jews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaFklTLNy8c
>>72226541
> new consititution
Doesn't mean it's good
> no more russki puppet
If you knew anything about Yanuk, you'd know he was playing off both sides, trying to steal as much as he could.
> re-organization of government
Is that what you call having 5 political murders per month?
> real police force
Ah, the police force that now has no trouble firing at the "enemies of the government", unlike Yanuk's Berkut which was shilled worldwide to not touch the "peaceful protestors"
> detailed plan for intergration
Fucking lol, are you a cockhole?
>>72218583
>caring about the Europoors
Fuck off, they chose they life they live, America First
>>72220043
>no NZ shield.
>>72219336
This.
I'm glad that there's someone else here who understands why Trump would be catastrophic as a president.
Sadly, most of /pol/ is willingly oblivious to this fact, and would rather post memes and act like total retards.
>>72226626
>He doesn't know what idioms are.
>>72226300
>we would have been russified to extinction.
It was only under Russia's rule that Finnish language and culture flowered. Shitden did everything possible to try to squash it, and still are.
>We could have easily voted to secede
Typical lie of the pretend-swede.What useless job in YLE do you fill?
Go masterbate on Axel Freudenthal's grave, shittish cancer.
>>72219313
>>72226809
>nz
>relevant
They even forget you at some maps lad
>>72226851
> he's backpedaling
Don't worry, I can ask again, my bottom-pained teenager friend.
Name one major economic reform your country has had in the last 20 years.
Selling off factories and having half of your population run away to Europe, doesn't count.
>>72226626
Funniest part that 90% of their economy depends on Russia
Lel
Balts is literally historical zero. Levonian, sweden , polish and russian servants.
They like a little dogs , barking from masters boots.
Pathetic
>>72218751
>US Canada and Mexico all working together to make north America great again
Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside
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>>72218446 >TRUMP WHO
LITERALLY WHO
He's a fake opposition to HILLARY 2016
HILLARY 2020 4 mo' years, also.
Mark my post, murikkka
Mark my post
>>72226300
> we would have done this
> we would have done that
Sure thing mate. Too bad that Russia did more to preserve Finnish culture than you ever did, and LIKE YOU SAID, Commies weren't even Russia's fault.
Does that leave anything for you to cry about?
>>72226817
vendepatria
>>72226932
Wow yeah, Super Sweden and a third world country whose government has to share control of it with drug cartels. Good luck.
>>72226961
Looks like Mario ate one too many mushrooms for today
>>72218446
Been waiting for the day america would be great again .
Back before their was an 'international interest"
We should close our borders. Keep our English speaking allies. And fuck everyone else.
I remember this Korean kid was talking shit to me online.
All I said was ' would you like us to leave the DMZ ? Cause we can , but you wouldn't last one minute after that last marine left that post"
He didn't say shit else. He knows
The world knows. If we wanted to. We could bring all our military , and equipment back home. And the world would burn around us. Leaving us to keep the world turning
>>72226893
nahh bro, ya fuckin hori, we relevant as
>>72226151
Mercantilism died in the 18th century. Get with the times, economic illiterate.
>>72227121
Isolationists should be isolated in camps
>>72226886
hhhnnnnnngggggg
>>72226794
>Doesn't mean it's good
But it is. It provides much better separation between the executive, legislative and judicial branches, solidifies the independence of the judicial system from political control and prevents the President from exercising too much power
>If you knew anything about Yanuk, you'd know he was playing off both sides, trying to steal as much as he could.
Lol no, it says a lot that after he got caught for his bullshit he escaped to russkie land
>Is that what you call having 5 political murders per month?
No, it means that the government is reorganized along more effective lines, useless bureaucrats are fired and the entire organization is made more accountable to the people. Basically getting rid of useless organs that somehow survived the collapse of the Soviet Union.
>Ah, the police force that now has no trouble firing at the "enemies of the government", unlike Yanuk's Berkut which was shilled worldwide to not touch the "peaceful protestors"
Too much RT for you. Berkut and the former Militsiya was under direct control of the corrupt Ministry of Internal Affairs; the new Police is only monitored by the said ministry, preventing the government from ordering them to fire on protesters like the former russkie puppet did.
>Fucking lol, are you a cockhole?
No, but you must be russkie diaspora. Diaspora is always the worst.
>>72227200
preferable to imperialists.
>>72226886
>India and Pakistan allied together
EW LAD
>>72227121
>>72227200
Isolationists are the death of America. They are the communists of today. Why you're not hanging them is beyond me.
>>72226921
Why are you changing the subject? We were talking about Ukraine. :^)
>>72226924
>Funniest part that 90% of their economy depends on Russia
Now this is shitposting.jpg
>>72219654
Underratted post
>some niggers in Africa are genociding peoples
>better go help them
This obligation as literal world police. Is absolutely the most fucked thing I've ever witnessed .
Like the whole Korean things.
Why the fuck do we care if the norks btfo of their own people in the south ?
I personally don't give a fuck. Let them fight dude.
Literally. Let the fucking fight and then after wards be like "so was it worth it ?"
>>72222472
MAGA
>>72226875
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification_of_Finland
Read your history, Bulgar shit. Hundreds of Finnish men did not die for your independence at Gorni Dubnik so that you could shill for russkie land a hundred years later.
>>72226875
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_union_dissolution_referendum,_1905
If Norway could secede, so could we. Now fuck off russkie shill.
>>72227379
No its not , balty
U are my personal fisherman and anglos toilet cleaner
Thats your destiny
Thats destiny of all ur "nation"
>>72222793
[Laughs in Russian]
>>72218446
>I told Trump to disband NATO
Do it FAGGIT
>>72220133
>Made me disillusioned with /pol/ to be honest
Lol join the club. /pol/ is an echo chamber. I learned that everyone here was a literal pawn when everyone was trying to defend Trump for accidentally saying 7/11
>>72227121
The reason why the korean probably stopped talking is because they could win a war without the US, just without US tech and to an extent manpower it would be a long and bloody slog to the chosun river.
>>72227499
Yeah sure bud, tell that to your babushkas with 60 EUR pension.
>>72227327
Umm its not isolationist , its , I'm tired of my country feeling obligated to put its dick in anything that needs fucked
>Korea : they need us senpai !
>Africa : pls senpai murrica we are dying from famine and from murderous warlords , Halp pls
>Europe : oh shit man , these terrorists are fucking us up man , please help us !!
>every other fucking bullshit problem in the universe : AMERICA SENPAI , PLS , WE NEED YOU !!
Fuck off.
>>72227379
>poorest country in Europe
>not heavily dependant on Russia
kek, they just switched from russian support to selling their country to the IMF.
>>72227263
My god, how do you even come up with such trash.
Can you explain to everyone here, how the jew oligarch government that's been murdering the political opposition for 2 years straight, is better than the one before, without using some meaningless bullshit that UA media shitposts to make it seem like they're making progress?
>>72227379
> We're talking about Ukraine, please don't reference my country that also had a color revolution and is still a shithole 20 years later
Butthurt-Belt is the Butthurt-Belt. When you talk about one, everything said applies to any of you.
>>72222674
You're fighting the good fight, brother. This is the first time I've seen someone expertly blow shills the fuck out. They're not even replying any more.
And for the record, I'm not even a liberal.
>>72227609
So wait , what you're saying is , they need us , in order to save lives ?
>implying that's not exactly wtf I just said in to the gook
Ya they might push the norks back without our help. But how many million gooks will it take to get rekt before that happens ?
>>72227446
>hundreds
Shame, russians gave thousands.
>>72227623
The fuck do we need you for with terrorists? I don't get it.
Anyway, like I said before if you can't carry the burden of empire, you're free to get off.
>>72227623
> europe
> those terrorists (that are backlash from YOUR involvement) are a pain, can you please fuck off and bomb mudshuts somewhere else*
>>72227013
>Establish a gendarmerie system that acted like a secret police in Finland without permission from the Diet
>Abolish our independent postal agency
>Abolish our currency
>Abolish the office of FInnish affairs in St. Petersburg, the only office that we could use to petition the Czar
>Give dictatorial powers to the Russian governor-general to imprison Finns and send them to Siberia
>Force everyone to start learning Russian and make it an official language
>Abolish our independent military and force Finns to be conscripted to the Russian Army
>Abolish hundreds of Finnish language newspapers
>Fire most Finnish officials and civil servants and replace them with Russians
>Make Russian laws apply in Finland without permission from the Finnish Diet
>A few months before WWI, publish an official program for the russification of Finland that explicitly stated that its purpose was to destroy the domestic independence of Finland and turn it into a Russian province
Gee thanks Russians, can you go shill for roubles somewhere else now?
>>72222674
jesus calm down guy it was a joke
>>72227795
You need us to supply you with the latest tech and training
Dürer
And we will , watch. And you'll be begging us to come back..once the mudskins realize we no longer care. They're gonna totes invade you bro
>>72226280
Your wish might be granted then, Ahmed. If NATO dissolves Europe will definitely hit bottom and take 100 years to return. But you don't have guns, so expect a lot of killing to take place in your streets at the hands of your new brown friends. I just hope Visegrad is wise enough to keep your commie kiddie cancer out of their countries once you all start moving in mass-refugee waves eastward. Your fellow lefty citizens ruined the continent NATO kept on life-support. Maybe it would have been better to let Soviet tanks run through Arc de Triomphe. All the former Warsaw Pact nations appear to be based and understand leftism for the poison it is. It's a shame the rest of Europe forgot.
Best of luck to you.
>>72227976
> latest tech
> 2nd hand hummers
pick one
>>72227812
Lol
Mad cuz angry euroman ?
See , that's the issue. They came over here what , ten years ago? And flew some planes into shit like a bunch of retards.
We , for the past , decade + , have bombed the fuck out of them. Killed them. Just straight up destablized the entire fucking continent.
That's what were good at.
Why we are still there. Idk. But someone high up has a blood lust and is making a lot , of cash.
>>72227976
>supply mudskins
>muddies gon get you bruh, you need us
>>72227648
Care to explain, how we are dependant on Russia? Even gas we are buying from Lithuania now. Russia doesn't produce anything. They were and still are importing from us milk and fish products. And about logistics and transport, they are still going through Latvia and our ports.
>>72227831
>pre-1991 politics matter
Oy vey the eternal rus boogeyman will conquer us all
>>72228136
Was focused on Ukraine. My bad.
