If a 5-year-old gets it, why can't /pol/?
>>72217036
>mfw
>>72217036
Many of the rich are very charitable. See, you are in favor of forcing them to share. That's not "should share". That's stealing.
>>72217036
>believing Marxism
oh what it was like to be 15.
>>72217089
What is wrong with Soros? he is at least 100x better person than the literal evil Kochs.
>>72217036
rich people DO share, bill gates donates a shit ton of money to diferent charities.
>>72217036
Same bullshevik different day
>>72217036
Should? Yes. Must? Absolutely no.
>>72217171
If they should and MOST people agree they should, why not make laws to force them to?
>>72217036
"Why", ought anyone share?
Whatever happened to all the times rich people have had their taxes raised?
This shitty board should say RICH PEOPLE SHOULD SHARE MORE
>>72217121
He's not holding them at gunpoint. He's making a suggestion.
>>72217036
/pol/ is full of teenagers who don't pay taxes and favor tax cuts for the rich because politicians tell them to
>>72217036
fuck off, if you earn your money you can do with it as you fucking please. I already have to pay nearly half that shit in taxes to the Government can waste my money educating retarded Islanders and Abos in the public school system and give handouts to bogans to they can afford goon and the latest smartphone
>>72217271
Makes sense.
>>72217209
That's not sharing that's stealing.
>>72217209
Because it's not ethical. It's their money and they can do whatever they want with it.
The same way a person who knows about medicine should contribute to his community by sharing his knowledge and skills, but he's not required to. If he doesn't want to, whatever. Somebody else will.
>>72217036
Daily reminder that if you aren't in a high income group but still support policies which make the rich richer then you are a filthy cuck
>>72217036
To correlate with the reality of the liberal cause though, the sign should say "we should be allowed to pillage the estates of people with more money than us".
Furthermore, this displays the childish mentality of liberals. If a child is making the same conclusions as you, and that is somehow support of your argument, you may not be able to think past a one step concept.
The rich hide there money. We already have the highest corporate income tax rate. Going after them more just means they hid money more offshore. Which means you don't get the rich person money really. You get the lower class small business owner's money -- the ones who can't offshore.
Don't be a 5 year old, OP. Think critically.
>>72217209
that's called slavery bro
>>72217325
No, it's just legislating that they share.
>>72217135
I want them to give me 99% of their money NOW! Whaaaa WHAAAA! WHAAAAA! I want free shit!
BERNIE 2016
>>72217036
Rich people are almost always big philanthropists. Maybe that kid should kill himself
Rich people should share this.
>>72217255
>making a law requiring heavy tax for "free" shit isn't stealing
when socialists say "tax the rich" they mean "tax the working class to give money to Tyrone"
>>72217036
They pay more than their fare share.
>>72217255
he's holding a sign his dad or mom gave him for a photo in a lame attempt to tug at people heart strings for political reasons
>>72217036
Why doesn't he share everything he has with hobos?
>>72217209
>what are taxes
>>72217255
How much sharing is enough sharing? Or is OP unable to think this far? After all, children want until all is consumed. Is this OP's mentality as well?
>>72217129
He's hypocritical. He sponsors programmes for diversity and socialist causes but you won't see him actually trying to increase his share in taxes or in charity.
Capitalism can work if you end crony capitalism.
>>72217036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdR7WW3XR9c
Here you go, argument destroyed by based Thatcher.
>>72217287
Who fucking cares dick head you have to pay your fair share. Not everyone has the same opportunities and grows up in the same environment as you or has the same IQ as you and therefore you can't expect everybody to just work their way up to be filthy rich. Class mobility is at its all time lowest and the poor are suffering more than ever while the super wealthy Jewish elite are making billions upon billions. They're going to have to share.
>>72217209
>MOST
Democracy is immoral
>>72217036
Hot women should share their bodies with ugly people like me.
But they don't.
>>72217209
I'm in the top 3% of the US, top 1% of the planet.
I will share when you stop having 8 children. I will pay to have your tubes tied. Wanna play?
>>72217410
I think we should go back to higher rates for the top income and capital gains bracket only. Lower rates for everyone else.
But leftists just want to raise taxes on the middle class anyway it's a non issue when they're involved. Leftists actually defend the VAT tax in Europe the most regressive tax of all time.
Ah, this image is perfect! It perfectly demonstrates that people who try to make changes like the child is suggesting have a similar mental capacity.
How satisfying!
>>72217036
The reason a 5-yr old "gets" it is because as a child everything is given to him for free and thus it would be highly immoral not to share when the fruits of your non-labor are costing you nothing. However if that kid had to earn money at a lemonade stand on a Saturday he would have a very different outlook on this sharing notion as he would rightly see it as someone taking the fruits of his labor from him.
>>72217585
mandatory birth control for all of Africa when?
>>72217036
>what is the Salvation Army
>what are charity balls
I know what it's like to live up in a poor family, because I've been in one. I got up, sacrificed my free time and social time, and worked to gain skills. Sometimes even 8 hours a day next to going to school. I was only 14 back then. Now I'm 27, $70k/yr, have my own house with ridiculously low mortgage in a rich town, and more than enough savings to live for several years if I ever might lose my job.
There's absolutely no reason for me to 'share' my money with the poor. I worked days and nights for it in order to give myself and my parents a healthy, and comfortable life they deserve. I am not in debt to strangers who cannot get their shit together, or maintain some sort of workers' or financial discipline in their actions.
They're also no good investment opportunity, because the risk is too high and the outcome is low. If they would start a burger business with quality beef from the local butcher, then I'd be interested. But they won't.
We do with our wealth as we fucking please, that includes storing it in a shell company.
>>72217594
because leftists aren't satisfied with taking money from the rich, they want to take money from everyone. They don't want to leave a single dollar outside their control.
who does that remind you of, come to think of it?
>>72217121
Yeah, but why don't they share by giving me money? Then I'd like rich people.
>>72217511
20 years ago the idea of Bernie Sanders getting the kind of votes he has got so far would be unthinkable, totally unimaginable.
Now he is viable.
Give it 4 years and we'll see a proper socialist in the White House. .
People are waking up and asking themselves why the fuck they're letting a hand full of people have billions in wealth while they have fuck all.
>>72217362
No, that's theft with a pretty word bow.
>>72217408
THIS
And the dolts don't even realize it. Which is the problem of our disconnect. "Liberals", or more aptly, "traitorists", cannot conceptually see the results of any policy. They, like children, see and then want.
Like a child coming into a store with a parent, seeing the checkout candy, and picking one up. The parent says, "no, not today, we have to go". The child cries, unable to understand the system of payment and the job required to obtain the money to make said payment. It's not within their realm of thought.
Ultimately, these people with these infantile brains will need to be culled, else society fails. A truth the histories of civilizations instill on us over and over again.
>>72217036
Rich people do share. The burden of the first mover and investment capital usually comes from the rich.
We all benefit from cheap smart phones because some faggy rich guys paid the ludicrous prices for the brick mobile phones when they came out.
>>72217036
Real life isn't Kindergarten.
Nobody has to share if they don't want to.
They should be forced to pay the same amount of taxes as everyone else though and should have their money confiscated if they try to hide it in other countries though.
>>72217036
I know it's a shitpost, but I can't wrap my head around how liberals can actually think like this.
>this child gets it!
No, children make horrible fucking decisions.
>>72217036
omg that boy is ADORABLE!!!
>>72217738
Yeah but why dont they share by giving out millions of dollars..
If a millionaire gives out 300 million dollars to each American, that's 1 million for each of us.
>>72217857
Nice proxy, Canada.
>>72217829
Fuck off pedophile.
>>72217036
Niggers, Jews, Feminists and degenerates confirmed for thinking like a 5 year old...
>>72217715
Exactly man. /pol/ is full of blue pilled faggots who support unfettered capitalism. The wealthy Jewish elite gets richer but retarded /pol/acks are sitting here complaining about some poor black kid abusing welfare because he grew up without a father or a with a low IQ.
It's sickening. There needs to be huge reforms.
>>72217036
They should and seeing as your family has enough money for paint and poster board, maybe they should give half their income to a poor African family.
Because everyone is rich in comparison to someone else.
The rich should stop "giving to charity" and start using their money and influence to improve the community they're a part of.
You know, Noblesse Oblige and all that.
>>72217036
Children are retarded, anon. They have no understanding of how a government or economic system works
>>72217036
Hang the adult that made the kid wears this
>>72217966
>/pol/ supports wall street kikes
since when?
>>72218028
It is very different to say a family should take food off their table versus a billionaire giving up some billions by force if necessary.
>>72218091
Creating a situation where corporatists and wallstreet kikes cannot buy off our politicians is what is needed. That is the root of the problem. Making some law that taxes them more just makes them offshore more.
The difference between us is that pol understands this, and can critically think, whereas you cannot.
>>72217036
>check flag
>>72217748
Bullshit I should be able to choose where my tax dollars go
>>72218091
Since forever. /pol/ is filled with people who support unfettered capitalism and who shit on the poor all the time. Literal retards who don't get how dangerous it is to allow rich Jews to continue to pile up wealth while the rest of us live like peasants. There needs to be reform and soon. Economic collapse is on the way and if we don't get reform before then by God we will burn the Wall Street kikes alive.
>>72217036
Gr8 b8 m8
>>72217966
>socialism
>not Jewish endgame to get people dependent on government
WEW LAD
>>72217036
Rich people do share. They donate shit loads to charity every year. Forcing them to "share" beyond that is robbery.
>>72217928
whether i'm a pedo or not, you MUST admit that the boy in OP's pic is adorable.
>>72218214
Simple
Public funding for campaigns (capped, no more silly spending) would solve it.
>>72217966
And the mythical Jewish elite getting richer hurts me how?
Welfare scum and government programs and waste literally take money out of my pocket every pay day
>>72218293
Are you a pedophile?
>>72218226
Why is it that the left's argument always ends with "Give us your stuff or we kill you"? How are you any different than robbers and other criminals?
>>72217359
>hide there money
>there
Stopped reading, discarded
>>72218322
who told you that?
yer I'm sure some snot brat who was born into wealth and born with a golden spoon up his ass and everything handed to him shouldn't pay more taxes. The government gives billions in corporate subsidies to corporations but retards on /pol/ have the nerve to talk about shit about welfare for the poor.
>>72218226
>Literal retards who don't get how dangerous it is to allow rich Jews to continue to pile up wealth while the rest of us live like peasants
Yet Trump, pol's candidate of choice, is effectively shining a light on the buying off of politicians and regulations -- the issue actually creating the piles of money. What we have here is not capitalism at all, let alone unfettered capitalism. They purchase politicians to ensure free market capitalism is not an issue they have to deal with. You seem to be under the impression that this is capitalism.
Which makes you kind of a low IQ person. Sorry.
It's best to accept this fact, and not interrupt when men are talking.
>>72217454
>what are tax breaks
>what is corruption
>what are offshore tax havens
Because they already do share
>>72218387
Do you have a thing for little boys? do the police know?
>>72217129
>buses in protestors where there was none to create riots
>toppled entire countries and markets
>buys literally every politician for world domination
>jew
10/10 keep it up Oz
>>72217364
Literary every berni supporters only argument.
>>72218214
>Making some law that taxes them more just makes them offshore more
well you could just tax them for hiding money in tax shelters in the first place
They benefit from the US government so they should have to pay taxes
>>72218226
Unfettered capitalism ends in feudalism
That's why the best system we had was the "progressive" system in the early 20th century before the kikes took over wall street/academia.
they do share, they pay more taxes
>>72217036
Good luck trying to redistribute their wealth when they've left the country and all their money are locked away in untouchable swiss bank accounts.
>>72218445
i appreciate the inherent cuteness of little boys.
but i've never had sex with one.
>>72218268
Yer the state is bad but large unaccountable corporations and the wealthy elite are good! You're a retard.
>>72218453
I thought you liked the free market? :)
>>72217209
> Hey man, following that accident we couldn't help but notice that you're really good at cleaning up our fecal matter
> We all voted and decided that it should be you who has to do this job
You're condoning literal slavery as long as enough people vote for it.
>>72218546
Do you desire to have sex with little boys?
>>72217472
Maybe that's the mind of a leftist, a 5 year old child who hasn't grown out of it.
>>72217511
>jews are just better than us
subtle
>>72217036
>using kids for marxist propaganda
gtfo jew
How about I get to manage the poors finances and time. They're so bad at managing both. They live way beyond their means and then instead of figuring out their finances, they complain other people too much money.
If they want me to donate, I will when they donate the same % to poor people in Africa.
>>72218334
I wouldn't call myself a leftist. I have strong conservative values. I just know that the system is completely fucked up and there needs to be reform. Free market capitalism is a cancer on the planet.
>>72218476
>well you could just tax them for hiding money in tax shelters in the first place
Not really. Are you aware that at least $12 trillion of taxable money is hidden offshores, untaxed? How can this be, if all one has to do is make a law saying it should be taxed? The rich set up shell companies to do this. It's not actually possible to control this money given the system of international banking rules.
This leave the only solution as this: create a situation where it's good business to keep that money within the protocol of a fairly tax system, and unhinge the money from the policy makers. That's it. And that's Trump's philosophical platform.
>>72218586
not consciously.
>>72218476
>U.S Tech companies hoard Billions in offshore tax havens
So would I, if I had to tax as much as I have to in Norway tbqh.
The upper tax here is like 49%, which means that you would literally be forced to give the government 50 billion dollars simply because they have a gun and can legally run you out of business.
I don't get why it's seen as a virtue to give the government money, when we all know what the government does with the money, i.e bomb sandniggers and jail niggers for smoking pot.
>>72218600
That's precisely it, actually.
>>72217209
If MOST people agree that you're a faggot would you start munching on dong
>>72218399
B-but it's not real capitalism. How is this any different from the excuse that socialists give?
It is capitalism. Free market capitalism by its very nature leads to wealth inequality and corporatism. You can't escape it.
>>72217509
pretty based desu
thanks for sharing bong
>>72217036
They already do. They mpay more in taxes thana nyone else and also donate more to charity than anyone else.
BUT this is typical Marxism of claiming the rich don't pay "their fair share" to justify robbing them for having something the Marxists want.
>>72217036
Parents should stop using their kids to push they're ideals.
>>72217036
Why would they give you their earned money?
In the US literary nothing stops you from becoming rich yourself...
>>72217129
This guy is literally a real life Lex Luthor
>>72217511
protip: without poor people there wouldn't be rich people, not the opposite.
>the wealthy should share
no, its the state fault for bending over and not having profit celling for CEO's
>>72218554
a powerful state will always create a class of wealthy elite. you can hold corporations accountable without socialism
>>72218566
doesn't mean he isn't a shit person for doing those things
>>72217594
A big part of the problem of what you just described is that the left is capable of using any tax cut the Republicans propose and push it as a tax cut for the wealthy due to progressive taxation.
For instance, you could cut taxes on people who make between 25k and 50k down to 0%. Every wealthy person will get all 25k in their pocket, where as someone who only makes 40k would only see an increase in take home income on 15K.
Since 25k is more than 15K the Liberals are able to say that all you've done is decrease taxes on the wealthy at the expense of the rest of us.
I don't think people realize that it is almost impossible for you to decrease taxes on just the middle class because of progressive taxation. The left uses this in their doublethink arguments to convince people that tax cuts = bad.
>>72218748
>It is capitalism. Free market capitalism by its very nature leads to wealth inequality and corporatism. You can't escape it.
Buying off politicians to reduce one's competition within an industry is the opposite of capitalism. It's actually much more the result of a centralized government with too much power -- the agenda of the left. Which leads to the same idea I started with: The left cannot think past one step. They literally create a government behemoth that opens the door to exploitation by the wealthy they want to go after. The wealthy exploit it, and then the left blames capitalism; not the behemoth government.
It's pathetic.
>>72217036
>a 5yo agrees with me
>i must be right
if you really believe in the idea of sharing with the less fortunate, why dont you give half your stuff to a homeless junkie?
Now that's what i call sharing
>>72217036
The rich already share more of their wealth than any of you do. They pay it in taxes and they're more charitable.
>>72217271
>/pol/ is full of teenagers who don't pay taxes and favor tax cuts for the rich because politicians tell them to
If tax cut for rich would also mean tax cut for the poor (look trump tax plan) why wouldn't they favor it?
>>72218850
Just increase higher marginal rate while decreasing lower rate? it's not even hard, hardly impossible.
Dumbass.
>>72217036
>>72218710
>>72218682
You realize the government provides lots of goods and services right?
The upper class are free loading off the system if they hide their money in tax havens while taking advantage of countries that have to fund the nice public infrastructure that they enjoy in the 1st world.
And no one in the top .1% is currently suffering in the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im1QmtfHPb4
My son is five (and cuter than that kid) and he knows that lefties are idiots. Why can't liberals understand?
>>72218992
in fact there's been a huge drop in taxes for the billionaire class while barely any drop in taxes for the middle class.
>>72218748
>Free market capitalism by its very nature leads to wealth inequality and corporatism.
And none of those things are wrong.
>>72219122
But is he circumcised?
>>72218992
>The upper class are free loading off the system if they hide their money in tax havens while taking advantage of countries that have to fund the nice public infrastructure that they enjoy in the 1st world.
This is correct. Bernie Sanders is not wrong in addressing what the problem is, in this regard. He fails in his solution by saying a larger government is what is needed, and higher taxes around the board.
The result of this is the super rich, you intend to go after, offshoring more money. This leaves smaller businesses with the bill. This means those smaller businesses cannot do business. Which means they go out of business. Which means the super rich have less competition, and continue the current gig: installing politicians to run the larger and larger more controlling government the left establishes, those politicans cancelling more and more competition for them, and the super rich funneling more and more of that larger and larger pile of money right back into the government.
That is what happens via the solution you seem to have.
>>72218910
Define what a big government is and tell me why the wealthy elite couldn't undermine the system either way. Money is power and when you have lots of power you can do whatever you want. Also there are a lot of government services which we take for granted so it's pretty pathetic to call for smaller government while also benefiting from roads, public schools, social security, minimum wage laws, etc. how small do you want the government to be?
>>72219133
And Social Security, like the VAT tax, is incredibly regressive.
>>72217036
Poor people should stop having kids they can't afford.
>>72218091
>Wall Street
>Kikes
Lel, Murdcuck is the one in charge of the Wall Street Journal and he's Christian.
>>72218924
This. Last time I checked taxes are a percentage of one's income, not a flat rate. The rich pay way more.
>>72219197
The government is taxing the billionaire class at the lowest rates in decades, but they still offshore
see
>>72219133
I'm going to pissed if the loot crate figure is Kenner Ripley, since I just ordered her from Toys R Us.
Also, trolls don't respond to this. If there is no figure, we'll see when it comes out. But I'm not taking chances since it is worded like there is one.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zYr5S06LLMM
Sounds like a lot of people here happy to just scrape by but believes people that work hard for their money should give it to ppl doing just enough to survive.
>>72218992
>You realize the government provides lots of goods and services right?
Only because they tax people so much they can provide people with goods and services. That's just a case of denying the antecedent.
And besides, the rich people of the world are, while not paying in many places as much % as everyone else in taxes, they are paying the most money in taxes.
>>72218821
A communist Jew
How rare
>>72219269
>the Wall Street Journal
>the same thing as Wall Street
There's one firm that rules the financial industry and it's not a newspaper.
>liberals hold the same viewpoints as a five year old
Lel.
>>72217036
Umm the marginal rate of tax here in bongland is about 70% for me, I "share" 70% of the fruits of my labour with scroungers like this kid, so they can spend it on weed.
>>72219240
>Money is power and when you have lots of power you can do whatever you want.
Not if the government is too small to effectively cancel out competition for who they've been bought off by. That is the solution. Icing on the cake is leadership that keeps addressing this, and setting up systems of checks and balances on money in politics. Capitalism needs to come back with real market competition. Not situations where say a person is forced to go to CVS because their insurance carrier only allows it because of the deal they've made with CVS -- and the person has no way of going to another provider because regional monopolies have been allowed by the bought off government.
>>72217036
>brain washing yoiur kid into belive in marxes ideas.
what dose a 5 year old know about the world anyway? reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neoAfy1BNy8
skip to 5:33
>>72219168
Nope, my family hasn't fallen for the snippy-jew in a few generations. The hospital I work for doesn't even do circumcisions anymore, the practice is dying out around here.
>>72219378
kek
>>72219378
Or, liberals hold viewpoints so intrinsically right and morally correct that even a five-year-old can align with them.
Conservative 'logic' and viewpoint is so twisted and morally bankrupt that people cannot be brainwashed into following it until usually after college when greed takes over.
>>72219324
It's so the working class can afford cheap public goods like infrastructure, roads, utilities, education, defense, etc
If you want to live in a good society you need public goods provided at a low cost by the government.
However private goods should be privately owned and operated.
>>72217433
If you weren't a communist at 5 years old then you never really had a childhood
>>72218396
>The government gives billions in corporate subsidies to corporations
>>72217036
> a 5 year old said it so it must be true!
nice b8 m8
>>72217036
they already share trust me bud
>>72219478
>Or, liberals hold viewpoints so intrinsically right and morally correct that even a five-year-old can align with them.
>liberals and 5 year olds confirmed for being unable to understand a large government, controlling more and more, is the bread and butter of the super rich they think they are going after by giving them this situation.
>>72219479
But all those things are outsourced to private companies by the taxpayers dollar anyway.
>>72219168
if only Art Admirer were here.......
>>72219323
Define work hard. Is being born into wealth and then getting huge inheritance money which you use to invest in stocks, bonds, real estate, mutual funds etc. working hard to you? Most entrepreneurs come from higher middle class families. Wealthy people have it easier. What part of this shit is so hard to understand? Our genetics and our environment shape us and largely determine our future success in life unfortunately.
>>72219478
>flag
Bottom line, "liberals":
Reduce the size and scope of government's control to eliminate the reach of the super rich being able to buy them off. A government that cannot socially engineer is the key.
>>72217511
Shut the fuck up you stupid cuck. I have come from a dirt poor immigrant back ground with basically no opportunities and yet I have managed to become a top 1% earner. Stop being lazy and work hard instead of expecting handouts
>>72219478
Extortion, jealousy and robbing someone is intrinsically right. Good one.
>>72219582
Stupidest fucking image ever.
Libertardians need shooting.
>>72219710
>bawwww taxation is theft
Take your super-rare flag and fuck off.
poor people should work
>>72217209
>>72219717
Why is it stupid?
>>72219582
Wow, this picture is fucking retarded
>why can't the tax payers directly pay the construction companies
Thats got to be the dumbest thing I've read this day.
Because you don't know if they are actually going to pay or not and the government is there to make sure they do...
>>72219582
But the government owns the the public goods and therefore provides them at low cost for the working class with the cost being distributed throughout society instead of the burden being put on the user.
If private companies own public goods they get a land monopoly and charge monopoly prices. (see: Carlos Slim world's richest man owning all telecom infrastructure in Mexico)
In a situation where private entities own everything, including the land you get feudalism 2.0
>>72219746
Taxation is theft you fucking idiot
>>72219792
>therefore provides them at low cost
How do you know it's a low cost when it's never been done privately before?
>>72219746
You fuck with your shitposting flag, troll.
>>72217511
Also I don't like the jews but nice job blaming them for your failures. You are a fucking pathetic excuse for a human being and I hope you and your kind die. This is equal to black people complaining about white privilege stopping them from succeeding
>>72219871
taxation is the payment for getting to live in a nice safe 1st world country with things like cheap roads, infrastructure, utilities etc that you don't have to pay for directly.
>>72219884
It's low cost because it's not a private monopoly.
If a private monopoly controls something they have to charge to get the maximum profit which means high prices.
>>72217556
great post
>>72218956
Right so you don't understand taxes at all.
Any decrease that I give to people in the lower brackets will automatically be applied to everyone in any and all of the higher brackets.
You should look up progressive taxation before you talk.
>>72217036
Fuck the poor, I gots mine.
They should accept the crumbs from my table that I'm kind enough to share with them and they should be fucking thankful I give them anything at all.
>>72219971
Personally I believe taxation should be based on consumption
>>72219971
>It's low cost because it's not a private monopoly.
I think you're confused on what a monopoly is tbqh.
In a scenario where anyone can compete within a market, there's an astronomically low probability that any one specific company will own 100% of market share in a specific domain.
Monopolies are almost *always* government privileges, that use force to stop encroachment by other companies onto a specific market domain.
>>72220020
>based on consumption
that means all the tax burden is put on the working class that can afford it the least instead of on the highest income bracket who can afford it the most.
>>72219971
I think the government should privatise as much as possible and then for things like the Military implement a low flat tax to pay for it
>>72219693
Wow a fucking anamoly! So fucking what retard. Class mobility is at its lowest it's ever been according to every single figure out there. Just because you got lucky doesn't mean everybody will also get lucky. Also since you're an immigrant who benefited from the opportunities that this country gave you you should be willing to give back more because without this country you would be nothing.
>>72220085
hardly, its only fair that you pay tax for what you use. And if everything is privatised it reduces Government spending and the need for high taxes
>>72220067
>I think you're confused on what a monopoly
That's how land and therefore public goods work, it's a natural monopoly. If there is private control of all public goods or all land you'll get a monopoly price inherently.
see: Feudalism where all economic surplus is taxed away by the aristocracy.
>>72219984
Lower the 25-50k while simultaneously increasing the higher brackets to make up the difference.
Tax cut for poor only.
>>72220100
Let me guess your on welfare or some shit? I served for nation in the army so I think I have done my fair share- what the fuck have you done?
>>72219350
if your company enslaves people you will have a shit product, a person that have reasonable wage and workhours will do a better job
>>72218091
i still dont understand what this image is trying to convey
>>72220146
>Feudalism where all economic surplus is taxed away by the aristocracy.
Feudalism wasn't "private ownership of land".
In feudalistic society, ALL land within a kingdom was LITERALLY owned by the King, and he granted fiefs a share of land for their loyalty. It's literally one of the most extreme expressions of statism there is, and not even remotely analogous to modern day private property.
>>72217036
I do share. But I share my wealth only with my family, relatives and close friends and a few selected persons who truly deserve it.
>>72220088
>privatise
that just means more monopoly rates and more burden on the working class
>reduces Government spending
Government spending produces lots of necessary public goods like roads, infrastructure, utilities, defense, education, etc
cutting spending for these goods destroys the economy.
>>72220141
>pay tax for what you use
that means that people who can afford it the least (working class) must pay instead of spreading the cost through society where the top income bracket which can afford it the most shoulders mos the payments.
The whole foundation of a functioning society is one where public goods are low cost for everyone.
>>72220194
Aus Army is a fucking welfare ride in and of itself. I say that as someone who has served in Iraq and has been out for a few years. You do FUCK ALL. Don't walk around puffing your chest out like a fucking rooster thinking you're Mr. Get Bad
>>72220391
I honestly and truly hope that you die, how is it fair that I have to give more of my hard earned money away because others are lazy?
>>72220265
It was the Aristocracy's private property that the serfs had to pay them to live on.
They used their monopoly rights to tax away any surplus the serfs had. If you turn the country into nothing but private land monopolies the same thing will happen.
>>72220194
I'm a student who also works, not all of us are autistic libertarians who lack any morals and hate any and all government programs. I'm happy with paying more taxes but as long as the fucking rich pay more because they have more. It's as simple as that. We should be giving tax cuts to the poor instead of the rich and subsidising corporations.
>>72219710
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>>72220447
Tough. fucking. shit.
Get over it.
Stop crying now, libertardian.
>>72217857
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or trying to troll.
Either way, here's the (You) you're craving.
>>72217036
If people were as stupid as OP to let kids ideas run society then we would all still be in kindergarten. Maybe that's where some people that can't think for themselves belong anyway.
To the point: Rich people DO share. They are creating wealth, jobs and prosperity for the country through their capital. Rich people pay more taxes and gives more to charities than you or me would ever imagine doing in our lifetime.
If you look at enterprise, there's two inputs – capital and labor, and what you got to understand is that money and labor are commodities. They both have prices. For capital the price is interest and and for labor its the price that labor is willing to work for. So, in any enterprise, there are really only these two inputs – capital and labor.
There's a reason why communism doesn't work, even if it's perfect on paper. Capital markets are absolutely necessary. Society wouldn't function without capital markets because capital is a commodity and has a price and it needs to be transacted. Also, it allocates resources as optimal as possible because there's demand and supply for capital and demand and supply for labor.
And when labor wants too much share of enterprise, and capital gets too less, capital leaves and goes away. That is really not good long-term for labor. You can see this happening all the time with socialism (which is the popular alternative to capitalism).
>>72220449
Yes, but this could not be done without the sanction of the King, who was the supreme authority, which is literally how it is done today. A monopoly cannot exist for long in a free market, without the government literally stopping other people from trying to compete with the major player in a given domain of the market.
>>72220530
Your not even answering my question? Why should I have to give away my hard earned money because others did not work as hard?
>>72217036
>>72220556
There's a reason why these socialist countries can't sustain themselves for more than two generations. They all run on bought time they have to pay back in the future, using other people's money and sooner or later they run out of capital because everything has fled elsewhere, which generally causes bad shit for EVERYONE in society. Take a look at the USSR, Eastern-Europe, North Korea, etc. But also look at the alternatives, Hong Kong, Singapore, South Korea, Japan etc. No matter how much biased people argue, these are really the facts.
Even modern China has grown thanks to implementing capitalistic ideas. Just like Trump says, the China wouldn't be there if the US didn't help them. The US built China, not socialism. So in long-term, Capitalism is great for everyone. It's absolutely NOT the perfect system, it has it's downside BUT all standards of living are HIGHER long-term in a capitalist society than using socialism because history tells us this.
In all circumstances in history, where capital has been locked out of the market and left, there's been widespread depression. Unfortunately, today, it's very popular for people to have this view of the world that the system is broken and doesn't work. Just because someone is born without capital, it doesn't mean that the system is wrong or unfair. They just need to understand the role of money and understand it's function. Of course, the government has the role of making people at the absolute bottom have some kind of safety net so they actually have a chance to be part of society, but this safety net should be there to help them bounce back up in life rather than making them hold on to it forever like we see in many modern societies today.
>>72220556
Thank You
>>72217036
A five year old can't get it because children are dumb and dependent.
>>72217036
>>72220627
Also, ”but I'm poo as fuck look at me, I need EBT and food stamps”... Yeah? You think you are poor? Look at fucking AFRICA and tell me that having an iPhone is a human right. There's really going to be ”poor” people in every society, at the bottom. But it's also a matter of perspective. The poorest people in Europe today are seen as the wealthiest ones for people in Africa. That's why you see so many niggers try to get to Europe, because they would still have a higher standard of living there as a ”poor” person than in their home country. Get my point?
So, all these things you hear that ”money is the root of evil” etc. it's no true. Greed is. And not the type of greed that makes you want to work extra hard to build a better future for you and your family or loved ones, I'm talking about the bad type of greed that people hurt other people for their own benefit. The problem today is that people are uneducated about the role of money, why it exists and they attach themselves to easy solutions that don't work long-term, such as socialism. Just look at all these Berniefags that actually are convinced that they will get free college, free healthcare, free this and free shit and they won't have to pay for it sooner or later somehow.
>>72220599
It is your contribution. You can afford more so you pay more. Stop crying, mate, you earn enough if you're in the army anyway.
>>72220572
>A monopoly cannot exist for long in a free market
Land is a monopoly by nature unless the government provides public land and public goods for use by everyone.
Since you want "no govenrment" every land owner will be a de facto King who's whim is law. All the non land owners will be serfs.
This is the situation you see in most 2nd world countries in places like South America or Central Asia where a few rich oligarchs own everything and everyone.
>>72220591
omg.......that boy is ADORABLE!!!
>>72217036
They do, over 50% per federal income tax, state income tax, sales tax, gas tax, property tax, mandatory health and car insurance, car registration tax, gas guzzler tax, police state imposed alimony and child support payments and estate taxes.
>>72217036
They do
the media focuses on assholes instead
When the sharing actually stops you get communist revolution
>>72220746
>Land is a monopoly by nature
How is it a monopoly by nature? Just because it's a finite resource?
Everything on this planet is a finite resource, that doesn't mean it can't trade hands.
You are literally saying that in order to stop private owners from having a monopoly on land, you have to have the government monopolize the land.
That's hilariously retarded.
>>72220684
I am not currently in the army, I said I had served in the past. Contribution should be based on consumption. There are poor people in every society and in the Western world many things are wants rather than actual needs, as long as no one is starving or dying of thirst I don't really care what the lower class has or doesn't have
>>72217036
During dekulakizaiton times or whatever it's called in English they took shitloads of land from my great-great-grandfather who worked all his life for it and gave it to drunktards who did nothing for their entire useless lives. So no, they shouldn't
>>72220572
>A monopoly cannot exist for long in a free market
>what is economics of scale and barrier of entry for 500
>>72220985
None of which are things that cannot stop a new pretender in a competitive setting.
>>72221101
can stop*
>>72220926
land is a natural monopoly because there's no way to circumvent or avoid its use.
Say you live on someone else's land. The effectively now control your life. If you don't pay them whatever they ask they can kick you off their land.
You have essentially recreated feudalism if you make all land private property.
>>72217036
its called taxes. Rich people pay more taxes.
>>72221164
>Say you live on someone else's land. The effectively now control your life. If you don't pay them whatever they ask they can kick you off their land.
But this is exactly how land functions right now, even with governments.
If you don't pay property taxes where due, the government will jail you.
>>72220926
governments the world over already monopolize millions of kilometers of land...
>>72221101
There is a reason laws exist to prevent and outlaw monopolies, and it's not because laws allow monopolies to happen.
Natural monopolies exist because the costs of entering a market and the inefficiency of smaller companies in some industries do stop new contenders.
>>72221243
But we don't have feudalism where all the serfs economic production is extracted by a monopolistic aristocracy.
The whole point of having government providing public property and taxes is to ensure we don't have things like serfdom era taxation by a group of aristocratic landlords that rule over a peasantry. Anarcho capitalists, in essence want to bring back feudalism because they want private sovereigns to be able to control all the "peasants" living on their land using their monopoly rights.
>>72221457
I just don't get how you don't see that there isn't a shred of difference between a private individual telling you to fuck off from a piece of land for not paying him, and the government doing the exact same thing.
It really blows my mind that you suffer from that kind of cognitive dissonance.
>>72217036
Because it is 5-year-old and he gets it wrong.
>>72221693
In modern governments they only charge a property tax to pay for certain public goods.
In a private land monopoly the land owner charges whatever he wants for maximum personal profit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im1QmtfHPb4
>>72217036
More like poor people shouldn't breed.
>>72221785
But that's not true at all.
The government also wants profits, why do you think they want to increase taxes on the wealthy?
Do you honestly believe it's out of the kindness of their heart?
No, it's clearly because they want to increase their power, and employ more worthless bureaucrats and paper shufflers. It's not rocket science.
>>72220556
this stops being valid when you import immigrants to lower wages
in that case, capital destroys the lower bottom
>>72221971
>government also wants profits
The government isn't a "for profit" organization it's a public institution that exists to provide certain public goods.
>>72222510
>The government isn't a "for profit" organization
So what? I can say that the only reason I want to become rich is so I can become a philanthropist, but that doesn't make it true.
>>72222710
That's because you are by definition a private owner and not an individual. You aren't obligated in any way to give to charity (which is your right)
>>72222800
>That's because you are by definition a private owner and not an individual.
wut
>>72223020
>That's because you are by definition a private owner and not an individual.
sorry I meant "You're a private owner, not a government"
The government exists to provide public goods (infrastructure, utilities, education, defense, etc) you personally don't have to give any individual anything in the form of charity.
>>72223431
>The government exists to provide public goods
No, it doesn't. You can't define an institution that originated in 5000 B.C as "existing to provide public goods".
Governments and states are an outgrowth of hierarchical societies and came to be because of the social division of labor, and religious authority among other things.
The government existing as an institution that provides public goods is literally just a 300 year old idea, from the time of Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Montesquieu, and is not how states have been defined for most of their history.
We need you more than ever.
>>72223731
>The government existing as an institution that provides public goods is literally just a 300 year old idea
And it was one of the greatest ideas in history.
>>72223936
Not really, because it was just another attempt at legitimizing an institution that had caused nothing but grievances for most people up until that point in history.
>>72217036
>5 y/o who didn't contribute anything to common wealth at all feeling entitled to lecture richfags what to do with their money
>5 y/o writing
faggot you do realize his LGBT parents gave him this?
>>72224155
yes please tell me how great human life was before le evil government came around
>>72222431
I understand your argument but the core principle still applies.
In today's globalism then you can say that if the price of labor is too high then your capital will move out of the country to another place. Just look how this actually is a real world example especially for manufacturing businesses. Since it costs too much for companies to have their manufacturing business let's say in Europe, then they earn more money if they move to south-east Asia. Look at all your clothes and things in your household - ”made in China”, ”Made in Pakistan”, ”made in Indonesia”... etc.
This is draining the country's resources over time because the core issues remains, capital will flow out of the country and once again you can see how China has used this to become number 1. The US built China because of dumb trade. We need smart trade, that's why we need Donald Trump. He knows everything about this because he's actually a successful businessman and knows how trade works. These politicians have never ever had a clue because they don't work for the people, they work for corporations and banks.
The alternative, to keep wages up, is to have protectionism and put tariffs/taxes on all imports. This is what the US has done in the past and what Donald Trump wants. Things like NAFTA will never benefit the US long-term. It only benefits big companies and banks. Donald Trump know this but he actually cares about his country, he loves his own people, unlike the others.
>>72224227
>violent deaths
As if this proves shit. So the average level of violence has gone down, I'm sure that this is all because of the existence of the government.
>>72217036
> implying that little faggot wouldn't throw a tantrum if you took half his toys
>>72224657
A formal law system creates order just another public good provided by the government.
>>72217036
Go on, share your toys Timmy.
>>72217036
yeah north korean ppl can tell you more about that kid
>>72224752
>A formal law system creates order
Sure. And it also creates 5 million prisoners, and it also creates legalized murder(capitol punishment), as in your country.
>>72217129
Hold it, you dummies.
>>72224810
>blacks commit crimes
>go to jail
such is life.
I suppose the superior model is African tribals?
>>72217511
There are 7 billion people on this planet, do you think they should all get equal share of the spoils of civilization? Fuck no, it would be wholly unsustainable.
I'm quite happy having my nice car, house and job but that means thousands of peasants in some third world shithole can't. You are exactly the same as that billionaire mate, it's just perspective.
>>72224903
>live on private property
>don't pay the owner
>get kicked out
such is life
>>72217036
>"Rich people should share."
>not "Rich people should be forced to share."
>mfw Libtards think this kid is agreeing with them
>>72225231
>live on private property
>all land in country is privately owned
>become serf just to live
Literal eloi. Doesn't know he's gonna have a chunk of his paycheck eaten eventually.
>>72224903
It's women making false domestic violence accusations, which get believed by default just as Hillary Clinton demands.
Then, instead of fighting back against feminism, the dindus and their Democrat elders just form a drum circle and chant kill whitey all night while pounding forties. The ironic part is that if a man is in fact beating his woman then the woman will defend him with her life.
>>72225370
>Don't worry, we'll turn it into PUBLICLY owned land instead!
>You are not allowed to make use of public lands.
>Taxes go up to pay for free women's studies classes.
>>72225370
But that's okay for you. As long as the land is government owned.
You apparently don't have a problem with serfdom as long as the guards wear police uniforms and the corporation is called the government.
>>72225535
>>72225547
private land in a government system is only taxed by property taxes to pay for public goods
private land where the private ruler is sovereign creates an aristocracy where tithes extract all of the serf's net worth.
taxation is far higher under anarcho capitalist feudalism than it is in modern states.
>>72217036
They already do very generously, the highest 20% of incomes pay around 90% of the income tax.
>>72225686
>private land in a government system is only taxed by property taxes to pay for public goods
So in other words you're double fucked, because you have to pay the land owner to live there, AND you have to pay the government property tax.
>taxation is far higher under anarcho capitalist feudalism than it is in modern states.
You cannot possibly know that to be true, and you're just assuming that because you're a shill for the state.
>>72225686
A feudal lord would at least let the serfs graze their livestock on his land. Obama's government will throw you in prison, kill anyone who resists, and then use the deaths as a pretense for enacting another round of dystopian executive decrees.
