We're doomed, aren't we?
Trump/Sanders is the only way to stop Hilary from getting into office
It'll never happen though, AMERICA IS DOOMED
>>72176191
lol then they are faggot traitors willing to throw the country down the drain for a WORSE Obama
i bet that article is bullshit anyway
I think Trump could actually BTFO Hillary in the debates, which might help him keep the Republican votes
>>72176191
b u l l s h i t
if anyone but cruz gets the nomination, i'll vote democrat to spite the fucks and be an even bigger asshole to the aipac jewcucks
fucking cucks
>>72176375
fuck off reddit homo
>>72176191
WOW MORE HILLARY CUNT SHILL THREADS, WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED?!?
>>72176191
The GOP did the same thing in 2012.
Literally no one liked Mitt Romney.
I have no idea why the GOP nominates the most hardline unlikable thundercunts, and then gets surprised when their ass gets handed to them.
>>72176191
Isn;t there a poll a couple of months back that says 15-20% of den will go over to trump if Hillary gets it?
>>72176191
>20 percent of less than 1 percent of the population polled said they would vote for Hillary over Trump
ok
>>72176191
Then good by GOP
They'll lose Congress, Presidency, and Supreme Court
>>72176191
Oh this is just like Arizona voting democrat
not gonna happen folks
>>72176598
Chill, I'm a trump supporter. Doesn't mean I have to be a blind homer; the article worries me. I have my own anecdotal evidence of a decent amount of repubs I know who will vote Clinton over trump as well. It scares me.
>>72176814
*good-bye
And 80% of the Republicans wont vote for Cruz.
>>72176375
IGNORE SHILL THREADS
HIDE SHILL THREADS
DO NOT REPLY TO SHILL THREADS
>>72176832
I see more evidence of the mostly white, rural Bernfags voting for Trump than Hillary.
>>72176191
thats actually impressive knowing how much Republicans hate shillary
>>72176832
Doesn't it bother you more that they care so little about their country?
>>72176191
Now ask how many independants will go trump over hillary
Oh right, you're about to.
Twenty percent of cuckservative faggots who are easily replaced by true American Trump supporters flocking to the party.
24% of democrats wont vote for hillary of she gets the nom
>>72176191
>>72177383
>>72177108
I hope we get enough Bernie crossovers to make up for it.
I can't find an official poll, but a handful of articles I've read have said 7% of Bernie people would vote trump over Hillary. I'd bet the number is higher than that but I don't know by how much.
>>72176375
This is it..the only way to win is Cruz now..
wew lad.
>Implying as many Dems and Bernouts won't be coming over to vote for Trump
>>72176191
And 40% of Republicans wont vote for Kasich if they give it to him at the convention.
Fuck them. Don't buy into this crap.
>>72176191
Not really. Trump can re-appeal to those republicans when he gets the nom.
A lot can happen between now and the election.
If trump is more careful about his rhetoric and he can pin clinton in the debates then that 20% can get chopped up right quick.
Also don't underestimate the potential appeal of his VP pick.
again a lot can happen.
>>72177861
About 1/4 will not vote for Hillary
Fuck the establishment
t. Bernie faithful
>>72176191
I have yet to meet someone who would have voted Republican that dislikes Trump more than Hillary.
>>72176668
Romney was very moderate, even supporting socialized medicine. People didn't like that he was an elitist Mormon with numerous gaffs.
>>72176832
lying sack of shit
>>72176191
10% of the republican party are neo-cons, another 10% are for globalism and open borders.
This isn't even remotely surprising, Clinton is as much a demoncrat as GWB when it comes to hawking for war.
>>72176832
pfft. even if 20% of republicans did vote for hillary, which isn't likely, that wouldn't even matter. Independents are the largest voting group in the country.
>>72178389
Is there a reason that pol is unable to fathom somebody would want to discuss the hurdles in front of their candidate? You're all seriously homer as fuck. There is nothing wrong with supporting someone but being able to realize the challenges that lay ahead.
Hell, I think you're a Jew trying to make trump supporters look like retarded high school drop outs.
>>72176668
Exactly. Its like do republicans not like to win elections. Instead of learning from trump's campaign they will disregard it. Learn nothing. Run some Romney-tier fag in 4 more years who will lose.
>>72176191
No. We win either way. If shillary when's shell fuck shit up even more and people will get even more pissed. Then someone even better than Trump will come along to clean up.
>>72176191
>thinking republicans would vote for hillary ever
they're just butthurt
>>72176191
>media
Ahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha
The media is no longer a valid source they have been exposed as shills and proven as frauds
It's over liberals have lost
>>72176561
>if anyone but cruz gets the nomination, i'll vote democrat to spite the fucks and be an even bigger asshole to the aipac jewcucks
Ted Cruz is literally married to a Goldman Sachs executive.
You're literally not a republican if you'd ever vote for shillary. You're just a moron who is swayed by their fee fees cause Donald Trump said he'd deport mexicunts.
AT LEAST burnouts who are considering voting Trump have a valid angle with Donald being the "anti-establishment" candidate.
>>72176515
This only works if he doesn't come off as an asshole in the process and so far he hasn't been good about that and that's already the reason why people dislike him. It doesn't help that she's female so it naturally would look like a male beating up on a helpless ol female. It shouldn't be that way but that's subconscious reality.
>>72176375
Panders will never team up with Trump. He said himself he will do anything to stop him.
>>72176668
Romney wasn't very hardline. He played the middle fairly well. It's just hard to unseat an incumbent and the reality /pol/ doesn't like is that even now, only half the country is dissatisfied with Obama. The other half are satisfied. I don't recall what those numbers were in 08 but I imagine he was even more favorable.
>>72176191
Democrats who switched to Republicans like me will offset the difference and more.
>>72176697
>republicans
>less than 1% of the population
That doesn't seem accurate.
>>72176191
Republicans won't vote for Clinton. They say they will, but they will fall in line.
Now, Trumplicans would vote for Clinton to spite the GOP for stealing the nomination. And that's closer to "40% of republicans".
>>72176814
They'll lose it anyway, Trump is a liberal in every aspect
>>72179630
Trump is way more liberal than Hillary. He should have run for the Democratic party as that seems to be a better fit based on his ideology.
Hell, he even agrees with Bernie Sanders in killing high-tech jobs and replacing it with low-skilled labor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0twuU6aUj4
>>72178642
Independents are more against than for Trump.
>>72180599
Far more "Trumplicans" would stay home or write in than vote for Hillary.
Trump will win. Hillary can't create jobs. Americans want the middle class back. Obama hasn't done shit. In fact he's fucked over what was left of the middle class and small businesses. Hillary will continue the same bull shit. Get on the trump train if you want American to be great again.
>>72180589
1% is the sample size of the poll, idiot.
>100% of RINOs will vote for Clinton if a RINO wins the nomination
In what sane society does this make sense?
>>72178642
>independents
I always loved people who register as this, 90% of the time they're literally just one party voters who wanted to be "above the fray" and show how moderate they are
>>72176191
>NEARLY 20% OF CRUZ SUPPORTERS ARE BUTTMAD ENOUGH TO LIE IN POLLS
More news at 6:00.
>>72180824
Trump will do that by... cutting off trade and killing what's left of the middle class? He's almost as moronic as the other socialist running, Bernie.
>>72180856
You seem upset?
So you're saying the poll isn't statistically representative?
>>72176191
the media lies. We catch them every day. Don't be naive
>>72179630
Trump is a trendy liberal democrat fag like bernie. A new york values democrat running as a Republican.
>>72176191
Americans vote for their own destruction. They always do. Let the world burn already. I'll enjoy the fall of society. When the big reset comes I'll be happier afterwards. I hate all this social media iphone infested garbage. Everyone is just an iPhone zombie and it needs to end. NOW.
>>72176191
If they vote Hillary shut on I will punch any man or woman in the arm hard and be like good job, but I'll be hitting them cause I will be mad at them
>>72180247
I don't think the helpless female part will factor in at all, not in this election. People are already tired of feminists and SJWs. And being an asshole hasn't stopped him from winning so far.
>>72180688
> He should have run for the Democratic party as that seems to be a better fit based on his ideology.
What democrat would get ANYWHERE with his major plan being to halt illegal immigration and repeal trade deals like the Bill Clinton signed NAFTA?
>>72181207
ted cruz plz go.
the priesthood is NOT rising
>>72176191
Im not leaving anywhere. Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump!
Well if the cruz fags wont vote for trump, then they deserve what they get. FALL IN LINE FAGGOTS. They were so insistent about Trump signing the stupid "I wont run as a third party" thing and now that he's defiantly going to be the nominee, they wont vote for him. HYPOCRITES.
>>72176191
Don't believe their lies!
All you hear about is "everyone hates him" yet all you see is him winning everything.
Stop and think about it. What does he say about the liberal media?
They are LIIAAAARRRRSSS
>>72176191
>conservatives are gonna put a Democract in office after 8 years....
Yeah No. They were NEVER Conservatives to begin with. There is no Liberal position Trump holds, that Hiliary doesn't exceed.
Complete Nonsense.
>>72181448
He's winning the republican nomination while turning off the greater electorate. Even in the party he can't get a majority. Meanwhile, Hillary has been playing the V card to much success. /pol/ is not representative of the general public.
Not really. She's a status quo candidate, she won't change shit.
>>72176191
People say all kinds of shit when they're trying to shill for their candidate they think still has a chance. This isn't reality for the general.
>>72181453
1) Bill Clinton on illegal immigration
"We must not tolerate illegal immigration. Since 1992, we have increased our Border Patrol by over 35%; deployed underground sensors, infrared night scopes and encrypted radios; built miles of new fences; and installed massive amounts of new lighting. We have moved forcefully to protect American jobs by calling on Congress to enact increased civil and criminal sanctions against employers who hire illegal workers. Since 1993, we have removed 30,000 illegal workers from jobs across the country."
Source: Between Hope and History, by Bill Clinton, p.134 , Jan 1, 1996
Illegal immigration threatens the survivability of monopolistic unions, which is a pillar of the Democratic party. Of course, they're against illegal immigration... they just don't drop meme-worthy sound bites.
2) Isn't Bernie rallying against trade agreements? Bernie's whole platform is that trade and market economies are disastrous to the middle class, which is awfully similar to Trump's position.
>>72181088
yes
>>72182024
Haven't there been more votes for trump alone in the primaries than have been cast for the dems in their primaries?
Even then, it's still a long way to go and to just count him out because of his lack of vagina seems retarded to me.
>>72176375
Wow you've really convinced me. Before I was stumping for Trump, but now I'm a CruzMissile.
>>72182179
Bill clinton cannot be president again, and hernie panders lost the nomination to hillary.
NOT
AN
ARGUMENT
>>72180989
Lol unfettered free trade that gives all middle class jobs to Asia is the only way to continue destroying the middle class for another 30 years
>gas yourself
>>72176191
>>72176191
How many dems (bernouts) will vote for Trump is Hillary get nominated?
>>72176191
Won't happen. Trump is already discussing the fine points with Republican leadership, the odds are he's going to get a moderate VP and the rest of the party will get behind him. A purge will occur if anyone rejects this ticket.
>>72182306
>just count him out because of his lack of vagina seems retarded to me.
That's hardly what I said.
>Haven't there been more votes for trump alone in the primaries than have been cast for the dems in their primaries?
Maybe. I don't think the primary turnout is correlated to election turnout. Maybe the Dems are more comfortable with their choices and don't care too much, that doesn't mean they won't turn out to make sure their party doesn't win the main election.
>>72182519
see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0twuU6aUj4
Economics 101.
Cheap goods are good for the survival of the middle class. If you had to produce everything with your bare hands, you'd be poor as fuck.
Fucking christ-- I think earning at least a B in a university economics course should be mandatory before you can vote. Fucking idiots like you gonna sink this ship.
This was the plan all along. It's been known since he announced that he was running. Trump is in a jew pact with the Clinton's. He's good friends with them. His taking advantage of the alternative right and alienation of the general public was all part of the plan to get hillary elected. Even if he wasn't personal friends with hillary he is still one of the people who will most benefit from her election.
You all fell for it hook line and sinker.
people do this shit every election in the heat of the primaries
they'll fall in line in november
>>72178688
Read your board friendo, you don't need shills to make /pol/ look retarded
every other post is made up of ~90% buzzwords
>>72176191
Maybe if voting was on facebook. If they hate Trum so much they would jump ship like the scores of Dem defectors.
>>72180898
they're not RINOs on the same issues
or
they want someone with a modicum of respectability in office
or
they aren't xenophobes
or
they like free trade
or
they want someone who understands foreign policy
>>72176191
Nope, they're basically saying that democracy doesn't really exists. They're all bought and paid for, they would rather betray their party and vote for a democrat just to stop Trump.
This would result badly, very badly for them. This would absolutely destroy voter confidence, and might even plunge the country into a civil revolution. They might want to back off from this course of action.
>>72183111
It's bait. They'll never understand what it all means. It's almost identical to reddit, in that they loathe economists and people with a functional understanding of economics and call them elitist pricks who don't really know anything. It's about feelings, not objectivity. Democracy is a mistake and is soon to collapse again, sadly.
>>72176191
20% of Republicans are RINOs?
Seems like a low number.
Luckily, more than 20% of Democraps vote for celebrities just because they are famous, so it should be a net gain team Trump.
>>72183779
>Democracy doesn't exist
>Because people vote outside of their party
Shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about.
>>72176191
Let those cucks jump ship. We don't need them anyway. When emperor trump comes to power we can use those voter records to purge the country of traitors and degenerates.
No need for them once we begin the great galactic crusade with the adeptus astartes legions anyway.
>>72176191
the GOP's been doomed since Palin was chosen as a running mate. luckily our candidate is really an independent
>>72183796
Agreed. If voters were guaranteed to be educated and had a firm respect for other peoples' property rights, we wouldn't be in this mess.
>>72181088
1% isn't statistically significant, let alone a representative sampling.
>>72184079
I knew someone would reply, and that it would be a very stupid response. The fact that their party would even threaten voting for a democrat instead of say a republican, like Cruz.
What's the point of having a two party political system, if that system would rather vote for the opposing party? You should just call it a one-party system and be done with it. Stop propagating this false illusion of choice.
I mean Hillary, they're threatening to vote for Hillary, that's not desperation that's corruption (Her interests align the most with them, and that's why they would vote for her instead).
>>72180688
beep beep shill detected.
>>72184537
Nigger that's not the Republican party threatening to vote for Hillary that's 20 percent of registered Republicans polled. You're clearly fucking retarded if you can't even grasp what's being discussed. Reevaluate yourself.
>>72184834
beep beep, socialist Brit detected
Oh, that's redundant.. sorry.
>>72176191
>These cucks are willing to give their gun rights just because le orange meanie made them butthurt
>>72184910
Shut up you butt-hurt faggot, I didn't say the whole party (Still they're showing some very troubling decent, you could call them traitors, and should probably be removed). You're the one taking everything I'm saying out of context and then running with it.
>Reevaluate yourself.
Educate yourself, aye shitlord? Lol
>>72176561
Id vote hillary if cruz got in
>>72181970
Sure
>>72184111
Give me a squad of marines first. But second, give me army troops and a solid wall.
-Commander Ashton Grimes
>>72184955
Better a commie than a cuck.
How could anyone believe this? Trump is winning in landslide victories now. He's going to be the president if he gets the nom.
>>72183111
>>72183796
Leave trolls.
You should have to take economics before you vote idiot. Bringing back jobs will make things cheaper because less transport price. People as dumb as you shouldn't vote
>>72185273
The one who's butthurt is clearly you. You're so ass blasted that people have the audacity to think for themselves that you're talking about retarded shit like revolution. 20 percent of your party would rather vote blue than vote for your fucking meme candidate. That's democracy in action. Get over it nigger.
>>72181970
For large swathes of the Old Republican Party, conservatism seems to just be a synonym of crony-capitalist globalism.
Someone hasn't read The Clintons War on Women
>>72186021
Aww, so I was right leftist Bernie fag. You're all easily identifiable, but what the fuck you guys use the word nigger now? I would have thought you triggered using such a word?
>>72185468
I'd vote for a tactical nuke over Cruz. Bombs at least give off a little warmth.
>>72186021
How about you try not beinga sheep? BAHHHHH
>>72176191
No, Trump will remind everybody what a warmonger she is, right outta Obama's old playbook.
>>72176191
No.
Have you met any actual Republicans who say they'll vote for Hillary instead of Trump?
Me neither. It's all shill lies to throw the borderlinefags who can't commit to Trump fully to jump ship.
Ignore shill posts, ignore shill "statistics", ignore shill "polls", and it'll all work itself out.
>>72186167
>Implying
I'm unregistered and relatively right leaning. I'll be voting for Hillary though, since she's not a meme, along with 20 percent of your party :^)
>>72176668
>Romney
>most hardline
He was the second most milquetoast candidate in that primary.
>>72176191
Your not a republican if you even think of voting for Clinton.
>>72185978
I know that's categorically false. Transport prices are nothing compared to labor rates for unionized shops.
>>72186549
>relatively right leaning
>Hillary though
What bizarro world are we living in? Hillary is a criminal and in no way, shape or form represent even a iota of right leaning views. This is some next level shit here.
>>72181970
>There is no Liberal position Trump holds, that Hiliary doesn't exceed.
Trump is more pro-gay marriage than Hillary "marraige is between a man and a woman" "supported DOMA" Clinton
>>72186479
>Have you met any actual Republicans who say they'll vote for Hillary instead of Trump?
Yes. Yes I have.
Literally my entire family.
I've been rubbing it in this entire primary how the Republican party they used to believe in is dead and buried. My mother is god damn pissed.
I like how they neglect to mention how many Dems have ALREADY jumped ship to vote Trump.
>>72186164
nice saved
>>72187060
Why would they mention twelve nobodies?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html
Say it with me, President Hillary Rodham Clinton
There are plenty of dems that refuse to vote for Hillary is changes nothing,
If only there was a final solution to the jewish problem in the USA.
>>72187349
Refusing to vote is half as bad as voting for the other guy for a campaign.
>>72186971
You do know that Hillary is long gone, right? She had to scrape it to pander to contemporary Dems.
>>72186897
>Criminal
There you go with the memes again.
If you want to know why someone who's right leaning would rather vote for Hillary than Trump you should check out >>72183622
Or maybe just talk to some Republicans who aren't alt righters on 4chan.
>>72186549
>>72186897
If I couldn't vote for Trump, I would vote Cruz. If I couldn't vote Cruz I would vote for Kasich if I couldn't vote for him I would vote Bernie.
But, never ever Hillary, literally the worst choice. Who panders to women and minorities (Really uses some lower ball pandering), even try's to get votes from the UFO communities, by saying she will release information on Aliens if she is elected (A lie more than likely).
Involved in so many scandals, more than most people can count. She and her husband are crooked to all hell. Why would anyone vote for her?
>>72187500
She even says there is a right-wing conspiracy against her. She is insane, the weakest party in every political spectrum (Very unpopular nowadays), and they're supposedly trying to bring her down. With what their censored opions?
>>72187770
Fix'd
opinions*
>>72187500
Many Republicans would rather vote for Hillary than Trump because they're alienated by Trump or don't agree with his retarded policies. I would much rather vote for Kasich than Hillary but would choose her over Trump. Hillary as of now represents 4 more years of normalcy. She's the candidate that most respects our current way of life. Maybe the Republican party can use the next 4 years to come to an agreement and figure out what issues they really care about while nominating someone electable.
>>72184321
>/pol/tard tries to pretend he understands statistical significance and representative sampling
It's cute when you guys try your hand at statistics.
>It only polled 1% of the total population, so the sample is irrelevant! -highschool dropout
>>72189037
anon
please
>99% of the party doesn't count
>>72189610
Not how statistics or sampling works you fucking idiot or nearly all scentific research would be 100% useless.
Save your memeposts and pseudointellectual understanding of statistics for other retards on here that don't understand it.
>>72189772
that "sample" is way to small to account for the majority, it could have so many factors either way that sway it poorly,
its pretty much trash
>>72176191
This post has changed my mind. I am now a Cruz missile.
>>72190664
>that "sample" is way to small to account for the majority
This is the go-to stock line for dumb shitfaces that don't understand statistics that want to discredit a study. "Da sample size sux lol". Doesn't matter if it's 100, 10,000, or 100,000, some stupid shit will point out that it's only 1-5% of the demographic that it is polling as if this automatically discredits the poll or research in question, ignoring that this would completely invalidate modern science, statistics, polling, etc. ALL of it would be invalidated if we used the standards of morons like yourself that immediately latch onto sample size.
By your own logic, exit polls are entirely invalidated and worthless merely by the fact that they sample less than 1% of all voters voting that day. Despite their history of relative accuracy.
Here's a tip: don't throw your babby's first study denial at people that actually understand statistics.
>>72190664
Sample reliability for random sampling doesn't rely on the % of the total.
The smaller the % of total the more it could be off by, but that's not the same thing as being more likely to be off.
I appreciate the fact that statistics is complicated as fuck and not at all intuitive, but you are just fucking wrong.
That said, for human behavior, which is notoriously hard to statistically analyze, generally sample sizes short of 4-5k are terrible in terms of reliability.
And this poll only seems to have used about 1k people across various camps, so polling within a camp would be even more unreliable.
Bullshit. They'll come around when election day draws near. There so much butthurt going on right now you can't make tits or dicks out of it.
Either they deliberately or accidentally misread the data tables, I'm not sure, but it's not 19% of Republicans would vote for the Democrat it Trump is the nominee.
19 out of 266 (ie 7%) Republicans would vote for the Democratic nominee if the Republican nominee they voted for in the primaries doesn't become the nominee (this including Trump voters who incidentally would obviously vote for Trump in the general if he were the nominee).
In a Hillary v Trump scenario however, it's just 11 out of 266, ie 4%.
In defense of the people behind the article, these are some of the worst data tables I've ever seen in my entire god damn life.
