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What went wrong? Black people seem so much more civilized in the past.
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What went wrong? Black people seem so much more civilized in the past.
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They had owners in the past.
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freedom is what went wrong.
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>>72174675
same thing that happens with a feral dog
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>>72174675

They're devolving
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>>72174857
made me choke laughing
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>>72174857
First post is always based post ty anonkun
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>>72174675
They followed the wrong role models, those who taught them to embrace victim status rather than win support and respect through hard work and pride.
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>>72174675
Hip hop culture and the Crack era. Everybody wants to be a bad ass or drug dealer now. Jobs and school was cool before the 1980's. Even the old drug dealers had class. Crack allowed any asshole with a half a brain to be a criminal. Those in pic are the children of drug addicts and criminals or worst. But hasn't America as a whole become more degenerate?

P.S.

Im black and from the "hood".
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I miss when all they used to do was make jazz and blues music
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Absentee Fathers

Marriage disincentivised by social benefits

Culture of work stifled by
sense of entitlement,

Dissillusioned at prospects within conventional economy

Rampant corruption , hypocrisy by those in power

Colonists bestowing this grievous inheritance on its white descendants.
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>>72174675
The Internet is what went wrong, Nogs were provided with an abundance of manipulated information with the inability to process out the bullshit.

>CNN says says X killed an unarmed black teenager during a confrontation

>Nig1 says to Nig2 on facebook X shot the kid in cold blood

>Nig2 says to Nig3 on facebook X hunted down the kid and executed him in cold blood

>Nig 3 says to Nig4 on facebook X hates all niggers and has a lisense to kill because of the broken system and white supremacy

The trend continues because they are too dumb to figure out X was assaulted by the kid during the middle of the night and it wasn't made into a big deal because it was an open and shut case.
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They were keep on a short leash in the past
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>>72177363

Black music through the ages
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>>72177230
>But hasn't America as a whole become more degenerate?

Yeah, but you used to be like this. And now look at that whole gang "culture" thing. And somehow blacks are supposedly more free, empowered and emancipated? It's just another of the many things I don't understand about the development of the West.
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>>72174675

Democrats knew their slaves better than the cucky Republican abolitionists who never met them. Also Jews, of course.
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>>72178726
Nigga be so black, he look da same in colour and black/white.
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>>72174675
>>72174857
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>>72178652
they have no jobs no future and a third of them are in jail because of that and the war on drugs
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Here's a real answer with no memes. Please appreciate it.

My dad grew up in a town called Fort Pierce, Florida. It has a fair share of blacks. As a matter of fact, it's where the first record case of HIV/AIDS occurred--of course amongst the blacks there.

The city had once been very prosperous all the way through the 1960s due to the citrus industry, a budding port, and cattle ranching. Aside the port, this is a common heritage with many Florida towns.

From 1920 to 1960, the town saw its population go from 2115 to 25,256. No social issues or anything yet, and the population was around 30% black. Successful town in a growing state. But what gives for its condition today?

Integration.

I've heard from not only my dad but older folks, black and white, that the times back when the towns were separated (mostly by choice) the times were better. Blacks didn't want to be around whites. They had a working relationship but distinctly separate cultures. The black parentS were fervent supporters of the local black sports teams, schools, businesses, etc. If one looks in the photographic archives at candid street shots and old school photos, one can see genuine smiles on every face. Integration was the first strike in their social cohesion.

The next big strike was the destruction of traditionally black jobs. The railroads were big in Florida as they were in Louisiana, Georgia, and so forth where lots of blacks were porters, railyard mechanics, engineers, and so forth. Many of their jobs were automated or made obsolete by the discontinuing of most passenger train lines in the United States. In addition, many blacks were longshoremen in the ports and they, too, found their jobs automated. Made in Florida used to be a big thing. With all the labor laws and such that were passed, we saw the gradual decline of the manufacturing (particularly garment) industry here.

Continue?
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>>72174675
... the past being exactly when?
>notice flag
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>>72179380
Please.
This is consistent with what I have heard by the way: the integrationists and the Johnson administration took away their pride and replaced it with anger.
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>watching a huge compilation of old news footage about a hurricane that took place in the 1970s
>story about people looting stores after the storm comes up
>literally all niggers

Nothing ever changes.
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>>72174675

The whole "freedom" thing is a joke. Everywhere you find people "liberated" or "freed," you find a colossal and precipitous decline in human and cultural value (it doesn't matter what race, sex etc).

Most people (95%+) are either human garbage, or helpless mouth-breathers. Without strong institutions of social control, all human greatness is leveled to the ground, and everything becomes cheap and pathetic.

Democracy is a complete meme. "Freedom" has become completely perverted in meaning. And all that you see in the world today are the fruits of both "ideals."
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>>72174675
Collapse of the family, lack of strong male role models, thug culture and last but not least the welfare state killing all drive to elevate ones self and any need for k select notions.
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>>72179380
>>72179982
This suggests that it will get even worse with our mudslimes, if they are forced out of the Sharia controled zones and to mix with Germans. Yay.

Actually, I think I've been observing the beginning of that already.
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how are you all so fucking stupid
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>>72180496
>The west shall rise!
>Empowering!
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It was a joke to think blacks could successfully emulate white institutions over a long period of time.

Every African country post-colonialism has receded to a sad state of affairs that resemble Mad Max. The only thing keeping those nations from total collapse is natural resources and foreign corporations keeping money flowing in.

Hell, the Chinese know this and don't have any qualms calling Africans out for their stupidity as the Chinese siphon wealth out of the continent.
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>>72180509
That's what it is. In their own communities they can find a nice natural normal. Being the one X guy in a factory, school, or office of Y and Z guys means deep unhappiness and constant insecurity at best and violence at worst. In the US I am consistently noted as a relatively smart guy: if I moved to Germany or Switzerland I have no doubt that I would get a nice cold shower of everyone asking unironically if I was retarded. Throwing blacks into pools of much smarter people is one of the cruelest things anyone can do to them.
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>>72179982
>the Johnson administration took away their pride and replaced it with welfare, desegregation, affirmative action, food stamps & section 8 housing
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>>72181256
That too. But he was right. They are loyal Democrat voters. His little plan certainly worked.
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>>72174675
What point in the past specifically? Because I don't think that time ever existed.
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>>72180982

>> It was a joke to think blacks could successfully emulate white institutions over a long period of time.

I agree 100%. But it was also a complete joke to think that common white people could emulate the institutions of their political and spiritual aristocracy (hence the freedom/democracy farce that we see today). With the collapse of Church and Throne came the collapse of all human greatness, everywhere.
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>>72181513
You're way off base. That's Andrew Jackson you're doubting, all signs point to that idea working gloriously and giving us our best years. It was a different tribe that brought in all the bad ideas.
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>>72179982
Alright.

Things were shaky in the 1960s but it was okay overall. Notice there was still a glitzy Hollywood regency Palm Beach dream still about Florida in the 1960s--all over the state. Miami is a good microcosm of this but this is about Fort Pierce.

The 1970s arrive and with that economic turmoil all over the country. The beginnings of joblessness. The heightening of hopelessness.

Cocaine hits it big here in the 1970s.

Shortly after in the late 1970s and very early 1980s, you see the crack epidemic occur and that puts the nail in the coffin. It's steadily downhill from there, you've got HIV/AIDS as mentioned before and now even fewer and fewer jobs. An economically healthy black town is often the first thing to die in a bad economy I've noticed because their economy is based largely on the services they provide. With every step towards automation that is taken, they are hurt even more. It doesn't help that their population has grown too fast for the amount of jobs their communities can support.

I forgot to mention that many of their jobs around here as well as in other parts of the south came from the construction industry. Think of the massive construction booms that occurred in the 1910s with the streetcar becoming big, the 1920s with the automobile (whole cities were created overnight then), the post-war era and the massive move to build housing for returning vets on the GI bill--cities were often doubled. This occurred into the 1960s. The level of craftsmanship in the homes of the 1910s-1930s is something to behold that I'm sure you all have seen. Even a working class man's apartment was solid brick construction with nice wooden floors, wainscoating, beadboard, crown moldings, and so on. Believe it or not but it was black working men that built that.

Most of the big mansions in Miami and Palm Beach were constructed by the blacks.

Pic is a mansion down the street from me built by blacks in the 1910s.
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>>72179380
This sort of makes sense. A career and a college education has increasingly become the standard. When factory jobs were in abundance more blacks worked and had balance. Less incarceration or impulse to commit crime. More stability to stay and be a father. Hip hop and crack didn't help.
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>>72174675
Black people worked harder.

White people worked harder.
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>>72174675
They went backwards. Who's got that based Chinaman webm?
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>>72178968
I'm pretty sure they're in jail for beating people, and killing them. And rape, all that goodness. And as far as the war on drugs is concerned, they put themselves there for messing with drugs. Dummy.
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>>72181513
>being a monarchist
What the fuck are you doing in America then? Go to fucking England if you want to bow down to royals.
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>>72181217
Well, to top it all in my district I am already the real minority as a white, especially if you only count ethnic Germans and not Italians, Spaniards, Mudslimes and Slavs. I feel completely and utterly alienated and uprooted, like a foreigner in my own country. It's always been like that to a certain degree, but since five years and especially since 2015 it's gotten worse and worse and worse.
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>>72174675

Dissolution of the black family by the Democrat Plantation.
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>>72178968
Black can't responsibility for their actions. Simple.
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Last thing to add. The blacks never moved to where the jobs are because of the entitlement programs begun by the Johnson administration, as another poster noted. There was no need to. If one gets a low-paying job the boost in income is not really worth it compared to the entitlement benefits one can get from doing nothing. The entitlements are taxed upon a job being procured. You can see how it's just not worth the struggle and it's better in their mind to sit on the porch and drink malt liquor.

They have no education or hope. Their jobs are mostly gone--and in Florida mostly replaced by spics. The government put a lot of them from their 'slum housing' into "radiant garden city"-style projects inspired by the all time biggest ego Le Corbusier--he invented the vertical slum ghetto in Marseilles, France. This was copied en masse here in the 1960s and 1970s for use as project housing. There are various sociological reasons as to how this housing contributes to crime but that's an essay for another time, possibly a new thread.

I hope this sheds some light on it. It's a combination of issues. They are culpable of course, but government failure is a major contributor to their problems.

Pic is a now-unused black facility in Miami.
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>>72174675
The media that is fed to them glorifies non-work and non-productivity as a path to financial and thus life success. Unfortunately part of that narrative is criminality. Think about the ratio of popular black people, eg musicians, actors, who don't on some degree embrace thuggery, to those who scream that its all about hard work?
Even actors/ musicians who do work hard will still say shit about it being a white mans world. US pro basketball is a black mans sport, it really can't be denied, and yet I have still heard this narrative from them.

If you feed people a promise of an easy way they'll take it. Simple.
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>>72174675
Democrats
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>>72181905

The problem is blacks chose to follow the path of least resistance.

They chose free housing, free food, free money and ignored the free education. All provided to them by society.

Now they're culture is a mess of hero worshiping gangsters and thugs and telling the society that tried to prop them up that the whole fucked up mess is society and racism, while completely ignoring that they chose the path that led them to this point.
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>>72178968
Affirmative action
Diversity quotas
If I was black I'd be a fucking millionaire by now.
It's lazyness that destroyed them, they never learned the value of hard work. Hard work is what keep white people alive during the winter.
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>>72182876
This wasn't the case in the 50's-60's.What triggered it? Or when was it triggered?
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>>72183607

When Johnson decided to give them free stuff to as he put it "Have them niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years."
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>>72182302

Check your assumptions against the facts. If you want to listen to greatest music white culture has ever produced, you have to listen to music that is hundreds of years old. If you want to read the greatest literature/philosophy white culture has ever produced, you have to listen to read books that are hundreds of years old. If you want to view the greatest architecture white culture has ever produced, you have to look at building that are crumbling with age.

The only thing that entertainment/masturbation culture has produced are cuck-porn and nu-males who won't stand up for themselves or their women.
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>>72174675
nigger thug culture exalted in rap music happened.
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>>72182876
>free education
kek, I'm black and I was never offered the opportunity of some "racial scholarship" or diversity nonsense, I had to fucking pay up. I don't know where you guys get this horseshit from.
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>>72174857
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>>72183828
QFT
>Bach composed for kings and dukes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCPM8DEsvmc

I don't even know the name of that twerker who is in time magazine right now....
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>>72184077

https://www.scholarships.com/financial-aid/college-scholarships/scholarships-by-type/minority-scholarships/african-american-scholarships/
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>>72178968
>blacks are handed the world on a platter with AA, welfare, racial quotas, etc.
>still fuck it up

Yeah, no. They can't handle responsibility.
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>>72174675
You want to know what went wrong?

Offshoring of low-skill factory jobs.

Blacks, with their disadvantages in getting an education, could still find gainful employment opportunities in manufacturing.

But now that those jobs have all dried up, and more and more jobs require licenses or qualifications which, statistically, blacks have a disadvantage getting, they don't have many alternatives.
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>>72185047
Not by itself. They were never good at that and in Detroit they were coming to work drunk and selling drugs on the factory floor. Detroit still has plenty of automotive related jobs: they moved to the northern white suburbs.
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>>72184590

I love Bach. Some articles you might enjoy (maybe you've read them).

http://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/the-dark-enlightenment-by-nick-land/

http://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/moldbugs-gentle-introduction/
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>>72174857
FP?
BP.
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>>72186666
Checked.
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>>72185047
>Blacks, with their disadvantages in getting an education
Public school is free. There is no excuse for not getting an education in this day and age.
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check'd
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>>72186666
TFW on a roll
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>>72182746
Beautiful write up man. One of the best and most well thought out things I have read on the Internet. If I knew you irl I would drink with you.
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>>72174675
Democrats thoroughly programmed them with the message that everything is everyone else's fault.
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>>72181833
>all the windows have bars on them
I guess it wouldn't feel like home for a black otherwise.
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>>72174857
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>What went wrong?
Society's perpetuating of the idea that blacks are owed something. This has bred them into thinking that they are not responsible for their own actions. This lack of self responsibility is also to blame for the destruction of the black family. Absentee fathers and worthless mothers.
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>>72187090
The bars are original to the 1910s, it was to be 'authentic' to certain Mediterranean styles. The house, 'El Jardin,' is now an all girls Catholic school.

>>72187019
Thanks man, every so often I try to write a post like this and hope somebody enjoys it.
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If the past you are referring to is Egypt, those were not niggers
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