Is there any scientists who believe race isn't a social construct, that race does exist?
I would like to see if there is any scientific data to support different human races.
Other niggers might have evolved in size but their brain is still the same as of a child
>>72130214
Virtually everyone who works in human evolutionary biology understands this anon.
Quit being a jackass, grow up, learn about science. You'll be glad you did.
>>72130214
Many do and did. It's one of the ultimate taboo subjects in the scientific world currently but most aren't deluded.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/fury-at-dna-pioneers-theory-africans-are-less-intelligent-than-westerners-394898.html
People who study the y chromose also know race exist. Because there is efficiently such big differencies that you need extra ancestors, which aren't africans.
http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation.aspx?paperID=19566
Homo Sapiens (some, e.g. whites) have around 20% of their DNA not from homo sapiens but Neanderthal, Denisovan, ...
It's not that race in itself is of such great interest, although probably the more it is understood the less it will be feared. Rather, recent human evolution cannot be understood except in terms of its independent development on each continent. There is not one story of recent human evolution but several, given that the five major continental populations or races—those of Africans, East Asians, Caucasians, Native Americans and Australasians—have been evolving largely independently since modern humans dispersed from Africa some 50,000 years ago.
It's hard to explore these stories without acknowledging that race has a biological basis. Yet researchers who do so put their careers in peril if they offend the political leanings of the colleagues who must approve their grant applications or accept their papers for publication.
In a book published last month, "A Troublesome Inheritance," I have tried to draw some of the tension from this fraught subject by showing that the understanding of genetic differences between human groups does not lead to racism. The human genome confirms what common sense would suggest, that there is clearly a biological basis to race.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/nicholas-wade-race-has-a-biological-basis-racism-does-not-1403476865
>>72130717
Continuum fallacy.
>>72130214
dumbfuck those are humans that have been seperated for 30,000 years from normal humans in africa
>>72131159
>20%
That's waay too high.
>>72130214
Race based medicine is one of the fastest growing fields of medicine. That may provide an answer.
>>72130214
The genetic distance between human subspecies is greater than the genetic distance between gorilla subspecies.
>>72130717
If we are all one race then how to forensic pathologist determine race from just bone remains. If there are genetic differences, there are different races.
>>72131462
That's an absolute amount. Individually, people do not have all this proportion in them but will definitely have a very different mix than another person having as much non-homo sapiens DNA.
Also, if you read the paper above you can see that the interbreeding happened 140.000 years prior and not 40.000-50.000 as was previously suggested in the community. This is a insanely long time diverging from africans.
"Race is a social construct" is a copout but it has a manner of truth to it. Too bad that the other half of the truth totally contradicts the actual objective of their argument.
There is no "race gene", but many genes that make up physical features. Race is a convenient grouping of common traits to a people, but it is "fuzzy" in that it has no absolute commonality the more traits you observe.
So race itself is an abstract concept that groups concrete features for the benefit of classification. Using the initial quote as an argument is like saying math is useless because it is abstract and manmade. But math still is analogous to the REAL WORLD. That is the whole point of abstract thinking.
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>>72130717
>There are no bright lines (that would stand out)
Orange is blue because you can't tell when it becomes yellow.
>>72130214
>I would like to see if there is any scientific data to support different human races.
the fact that kids from interracial couples are fucked up genetically and prone to physical and mental disease
>>72130214
If they were different races they wouldn't be able to reproduce with whites or asians.
>>72131852
What's interesting for the "negroes" is you find them everywhere in the equator. You have even darker negroes in e.g. Indonesia. I wonder why that is, what population movement created this specie.
>>72131855
Or maybe even earlier.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2289492/The-family-tree-test-rewrote-human-history-Researchers-stunned-DNA-submitted-online-service-dates-338-000-years.html
>>72130214
>posts retard image
Youve convinced me!
>he doesnt know about growth-inhibition due to an acceleration of puberty
Are all Americans so dumb?
>>72131895
A thousand times this!
>>72132067
You find dark skin at the equator. Skin color is not a good racial market.
>>72131688
Alright a good question.
Yes I can look at bones and find clues here and there that will help me make a good guess as to whether the guys neighbors would have called him black or white. That's true, fair enough.
What is not true is that this fact validates those categories as well founded, scientifically valid biological divisions. They absolutely are not. You can correlate certain genes to them statistically, as a result of historical accident, you just can't project from that and reify them as showing an objective division, that's a step too far for both the data and the logic.
It's ALL statistics and I think a big part of the problem is that people think they understand statistics but they are almost always dead wrong.
Statistics say the average IQ for a black is lower than a white. Stormfag says 'see! scientific evidence proves it! only reproduce with a white woman if you don't want retard babies.'
Well, no, sorry stormfag, you don't understand statistics. That's only an expectation if you pick a *random* black woman from the general population. If the black woman from down the street who's the right age and thinks you're kind of cute has a high IQ as well, then that statistic about IQ you just quoted is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT it does not matter in any way whatsoever.
(And just because whites have a higher iq on average doesn't mean that mating with the blonde haired blue eyed moron at the other end of the street is a good idea either, anon.)
>>72132039
Neanderthal is considered another race AFAIK while our ancestors most definitely bred with them.
>>72132278
Well they have similarly puffy noses etc. I don't know how far they really are but it feels like they're close to modern africans (some of them at least).
>>72131895
Light is light anon.
Wavelength is relatively easy to change.
>>72131961
[citation needed]
>>72132039
Someone that understands at least a little biology! Thanks.
>>72132067
Skin color tracks sunlight very closely and very quickly. That's why it's just over the top stupid to think that you can use it to establish genetic relationships.
>>72132039
Are you really this stupid?
>>72131671
there is no way filipinos and europeans are more closely related than filipinos and native americans
>>72132304
Meh, i don't think you understand average...
This is bait.
Average means more likely not 100% you moron
>>72132304
>What is not true is that this fact validates those categories as well founded, scientifically valid biological divisions. They absolutely are not. You can correlate certain genes to them statistically, as a result of historical accident, you just can't project from that and reify them as showing an objective division, that's a step too far for both the data and the logic.
The divisions exists exactly how we expect to exist based on observation, data, and statistics. But you can't use those methods to say the division's exist.
>>72132304
Granted, I would rather reproduce with a black woman at the high-end of the black I Q distribution curve in a white woman at the low-end of the white IQ distribution curve. But that doesn't disprove the existence of the distribution curves, and that one is higher than the other.
>>72130214
Rape, murder and species are a social construct as well
>>72132504
Do you understand analogies or not? Existence of a continuum does not prohibit categories from existing in it.
>>72130214
RACE IS SKIN DEEP YOU FUCKING RACIST!
HERE IS THE PROOF:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tOkb1y7hEs
>>72132640
He never suggested anything else...
>>72132614
They got to where they were geographically through different routes isolated by greater distances of time.
>>72132039
Meh.
>>72131720
>>72131763
>>72131801
>>72131852
>this gets you arrested in sweden
additional informations here by the way
Yeah you still really don't understand statistics. This is why it's still possible to make so much money at poker lol.
You're the guy that's sitting there looking at me thinking (there's only a 10% chance he got the card he needed, I gotta raise.) Raise away anon! Give your money away.
People really don't understand statistics.
>>72130214
>Race is a social construct
The opposite is actually true; society is a racial construct.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912003741
http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1994egalitarianfiction.pdf
http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf
>>72132304
Troll or shill but that text takes dedication. I'm sorry either way, either you have nothing in life or you are a sad sellout whore
>>72133434
Stormfag detected
>>72133434
Or I actually know what I am talking about, hmm.
I'm actually a eugenicist. One of the reasons I am politically incorrect and always have been. I absolutely think we should be paying attention to breeding and trying to improve our race. That's why I get upset when I see all the boneheads who parrot that as their position but then screw up every detail of it in practice because they are scientifically illiterate.
I try not to blame them at first, the school system gets some blame, but ffs pull yourself up by the bootstraps, turn your brain on, and figure this shit out!
>>72130214
>Is there any scientists who believe race isn't a social construct, that race does exist?
It's a taboo subject. Speaking out on it is career suicide.
>>72134075
and how are you improving your lineage?
>>72130717
lewton's fallacy desu, also 23 and me, blatantly refutes this argument
>>72132955
Can someone explain to me how exactly separating those different birds into different species is perfectly valid biological division but there are absolutely zero biological divisions within homo sapiens?
>>72131671
This, too. I'm willing to listen to a legit biological explanation but what I'm seeing is that there's a demonstrable genetic differences among human "races."
>>72130214
>Is there any scientists who believe race isn't a social construct,
Yes, many (including pretty much any non-western scientist)
For example: Cochran, Frost, Hsu, ...:
http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2008/01/no-scientific-basis-for-race.html
http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2008/11/human-genetic-variation-fst-and.html
http://infoproc.blogspot.de/2013/05/learning-can-hurt.html
https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2016/04/19/such-a-thing/
https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2014/05/19/phenotypes-vs-genetic-statistics/
http://evoandproud.blogspot.de/2011/11/apples-oranges-and-genes.html
http://westhunt.wordpress.com/2012/01/26/lewontins-argument/
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2013/05/why-race-as-a-biological-construct-matters/
https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/status-of-the-race-concept.pdf
Western scientists often just name it differently (e.g. broad ancestral category) and make stupid claims about supposed wrong implications of the 'race' term (discrete vs. somwhat clinal, ...) so they get let alone by SJW
>>72132504
>[citation needed]
http://pastebin.com/tGMEhbhf
>>72134061
>>72134075
I don't know why to indulge in shils but here it goes. The individual doesn't matter, the collective does when characterizing a population. Sure there definitely is a black woman smarter than me but a white man is x times as likely to be smarter than me. Being at the farthest right end of the bell curve is nothing when its just a single dot. What matters is the bulk near the middle where there is the most frequency. fuck off with your mental gymnastics and report an unsuccessful shilling effort at Open Society you fuckwits.
>>72130214
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>>72130214
>Is there any scientists who believe race isn't a social construct, that race does exist?
Wow, my skin is a dramatically different color than that black guys skin, and it's a trait passed down hereditarily...
I WONDER IF RACE EXISTS?
>>72134690
was originally named thug gene
>>72134671
Given that segregation was only outlawed like 50 years ago. You shouldn't expect the black population to be geniuses because they have been largely deprived of education.
NOTE: Not an SJW just facts
>>72134349
By evaluating potential mates individually and focusing on substantial, rather than cosmetic, issues.
>>72134587
>Can someone explain to me how exactly separating those different birds into different species is perfectly valid biological division but there are absolutely zero biological divisions within homo sapiens?
Because those birds cannot cross-breed themselves but all existing humans can.
>This, too. I'm willing to listen to a legit biological explanation but what I'm seeing is that there's a demonstrable genetic differences among human "races."
Gorillas have an extremely inbred line that will most likely die off soon no matter how hard we try to keep them alive.
Compare chimpanzees instead, they're still an almost healthy species for the moment. You have more genetic diversity among chimpanzees in a single area of about 30 square miles in central africa than in the entire human race today.
>>72134671
>I don't know why to indulge in shils but here it goes. The individual doesn't matter, the collective does when characterizing a population.
Yes. WHEN CHARACTERIZING A POPULATION.
Not when considering any given individual.
And the definition of 'population' is something you might need to look up as well.
Physician here. I can tell you with 100% certainty that there are distinct differences among races. Doctors know this, so do pharmacists, because different races are treated differently for the same disease.
Lets take for example, High blood pressure. JNC-8 (essentially the bible/manual for handling high blood pressure) has 'race' as a branch off the main tree. MEaning that a black person will get a DIFFERENT TREATMENT than a non-black, for NO REASON other than that they are black.
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1791497
>Recommendation 6
In the general nonblack population, including those with diabetes, initial antihypertensive treatment should include a thiazide-type diuretic, calcium channel blocker (CCB), angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitor (ACEI), or angiotensin receptor blocker (ARB). (Moderate Recommendation – Grade B)
Recommendation 7
In the general black population, including those with diabetes, initial antihypertensive treatment should include a thiazide-type diuretic or CCB. (For general black population: Moderate Recommendation – Grade B; for black patients with diabetes: Weak Recommendation – Grade C)
Black and non black population are stratified as DIFFERENT PATIENT POPULATIONS that respond differently enough to be CLASSIFIED as separate patient populations.
Prostate Cancer: Same story.
Pic related
Blacks are diagnosed at almost 3x the rate of asians and pacific islanders, and twice the rate of whites and hispanics. This is because of.....testosterone.
http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/hormone-therapy
>Why Is Hormone Treatment Used for Prostate Cancer?
Prostate cancer grows when exposed to the male hormone testosterone and its related hormones, called androgens. Hormone treatment for prostate cancer is used to stop the production of testosterone and all androgens either temporarily or permanently.
Cont...
>>72134915
how about jews ? when they were allowed into universities in the second half of the 19th century, they immediately rose to the top
>>72134587
Politics. Boaz made a statement intended for professionals. SJW's latched onto it. Social scientists shout down anyone in the scientific community who speaks against the orthodoxy. And research scientists are left to hide their studies in language of "geographic populations" or "ancestral populations" or "ancestry".
>>72134915
what about japs and chinks that moved to canada and north America as peasants, and now their kids are beating whites in schooling?
>>72135113
Not to mention Sickle cell only happens in blacks
>>72130214
>I'd like to see if there's anyh scientific data to support different human races.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negroid
>>72134915
t. Mr. Diamond
Tell me are you a literal child,a troll or a shill? The abundance of evidence is not present only in African American population. Even if it was, segregation would be now irrelevant. See how many other oppressed populations there have been and how they have bounced back. Heck after a point all the Chinese were doing was trying to sever the western arm keeping it down. Before the start of the industrialization of China it was one big rice farm with no general education , ACTUALLY deprived of it. And now it is a thriving superpower. Countries are made up by their people
>>72130214
IF ONLY THERE WAS AN EASILY IDENTIFIABLE TRAIT THAT COVERS PEOPLE'S WHOLE BODY THAT WOULD TELL US RACE EXISTS
>>72135113
Now, what else does testosterone do? Muscle development. No matter where you're from, blacks have an obvious advantage on muscle tone, specifically fast twitch muscles (look at pro sports, Olympic sprinters, etc...)
What else does testosterone do? It's the aggression hormone. Blacks are also convicted of violent crime at 2-4x the rate of their non-black counterparts, which again, falls in line with the rate of prostate cancer.
Physicians know this, and slowly and surely race is beginning to drive medical treatment. There are drugs that are ONLY approved in black people, such as BiDil (pic related). The medical community already separates blacks and non blacks as two distinct patient populations, AND acts on it. Only a matter of time before it becomes the norm in society.
>>72135113
I had a blood panel done last week and on the results it included a separate range for Africans for certain tests.
>>72135106
Yes, statistics are made to sum up large amounts of events ie populations not individuals so the individual is not properly characterized. Big woop, are you here to talk only selective breeding choices? Your first post attacked a person stating genetic differences. A strawman based on the actual truth of the mating argument. fuck off
>>72130717
I'm convinced there is an electromagnetic component to DNA and gene expression which hasn't been discovered yet. Tuft's University touched on this with their discovery of an electric field on the surface of tadpole embryos which the embryos then grow into.
>>72130214
What are those turd crows
>>72135106
So do you look for temperance, physcial strength, physical endurance, mental fortitude, what?
>>72135264
Funny story about that, I did blood work for a guy complaining of fatigue and such, and found out he had sickle cell. A white guy. White as me or you. Sickle cells not only cannot carry the plasmodium that causes malaria (which is why it's an evolutionary advantage brought out in blacks) it also doesn't carry oxygen, which is why it causes anemia type symptoms.
The dude called me a liar and said he 'ain't got no nigger blood' in him. Thing is though, sickle cell is VERY VERY obvious upon examining a slide under a microscope. No chance of messing it up, and this guy had it, no doubt about it.
I'd be upset too desu. Someone in his family tree introduced African blood in it, forever tainting it. I told him he should get his kids tested, before they found out after passing out on a mountaintop ski trip. He left and never came back, I wonder if he told his wife or kids.
>>72135618
Yep. Exactly my point. The medical community (which is zero PC, relies 100% on established, tried and true factual data) has totally accepted distinct differences in lab values, body composition, disease rates, even psych traits among different races.
>>72135264
>>72135668
Look up Rupert sheldrake and his morphogenic field theory
>>72135117
Guess who wasn't in the universities you dense fucking idiot.
>>72135381
The Chinese have great land and resources to start an industrial revolution guess who doesn't
>>72135204
Segregation not levied heavily at them
>>72132304
This! This is so true!
Every liberal always uses this exact argument!
Anecdotes always trump statistics!
>>72136372
>Guess who wasn't in the universities you dense fucking idiot.
i think you don't get my point
>>72136372
Edit I didn't properly address the Canadian. Chinese and Japanese came from better countries where they had better skills
>>72135944
Making me wish I'd gone to medical school after all
>>72136810
it's soul crushing work. You spend most of your time making sure you don't break the law or something like that. You're very very limited in what you're allowed to do, despite your knowledge and what you WANT to do. Still pretty cool though, I love it anyways. I love learning about the new advances, even since I graduated 3 years ago, we've made HUGE strides, especially in oncology.
>>72130214
Race is a social construct outside of a couple superficial traits like hair and skin color.
>>72136962
Is there still study going into how cancer might cause immortality?
>>72136372
>resources
There are manuscritps about the tragedy of Rhodesia. Tell me honestly, are you a woman? You sound like either a woman or a 14-17 year old kid
>>72136962
Yeah part of why I bailed was the fear of a crushed soul. Problen is industry is soulcrushing in the monotonous and unstimulating bench work regard. Cant have it all I suppose.
What do you feel is coming regarding fee for outcome and Obamacare at large?
>>72132304
>What are matched-pair statistics
wew lad back 2 undergrad 4 u
There is only one race and that is the human race goym.
Anyone who says otherwise is a racist islamphobic sexist bigot
>>72137392
actually the brains of different races are more different than the skin or hair.
Skin colour was recently adapted for a grain based diet in low UV and temp climates. IE Europe, China, etc.
But the brains of those populations changed much more as the need for intelligence was ramped WAY up in order to survive winters.
>>72135476
>What else does testosterone do? It's the aggression hormone.
This isn't necessarily true. I personally experienced test levels that pretty much no one has naturally without any signs of aggression and this experience is common among roiders that use Test. There isn't evidence for higher test levels among black - pls keep your cuck fantasy to yourself murrika.
Test has been shown to increase honesty and fairness but the connection with aggression isn't clearly established.
http://racehist.blogspot.de/2013/04/no-evidence-for-higher-testosterone-in.html
http://racehist.blogspot.de/2014/08/testosterone-and-intergroup-competition.html
http://racehist.blogspot.de/2009/10/can-racial-differences-in-circulating.html
http://racehist.blogspot.de/2013/04/no-evidence-for-higher-testosterone-in.html
Race goes all the way down to your DNA. Yes each race is different in many ways.
For example only blacks can get sickle cell anemia because of a genetic defect.
>>72132504
How come you did not reply to >>72132955 anon?
>>72136962
medecine is nearly as corrupt as academia. even physics is corrupted. did you see that paper that showed that advanced in medecine and physics weren't accepted until the old guard of every generation died off?
you're just as infected by pc as everyone else. you basically have to prescribe poor treatments to good people because the methodology demands trying to compensate for noncompliance equally among patients.
fuck medical
>>72137570
Obamacare is an unquestionable disaster, and anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. It has absolutely put a goddamn vice on what you can and cannot do. It's the most restrictive piece of medical legislation I've ever hear of by a long shot.
>>72137495
Well, cancer cells in and of themselves are 'immortal' in the sense they have no telemeres. But neither do Lobsters and a couple other crustaceans, but they become easy prey when they're 200 years old and weigh 30 lbs and can't move.
When they say they 'found immortality' they just mean they found cells that can replicate indefinitely, which cancer cells can do.
A better example of human immortality is Henrietta Lacks. We still use her cell line in medical research even today. One of the most fascinating stories I know of.
>Henrietta Lacks (1 August 1920 – 4 October 1951;[2] sometimes erroneously called Henrietta Lakes, Helen Lane, or Helen Larson) was an African-American woman who was the unwitting source of cells from her cancerous tumor which were cultured by George Otto Gey to create the first known human immortal cell line for medical research. This is now known as the HeLa cell line.[3]
>The cells from Henrietta's tumor were given to researcher George Gey, who "discovered that [Henrietta's] cells did something they'd never seen before: They could be kept alive and grow."[15] Before this, cells cultured from other cells would only survive for a few days. Scientists spent more time trying to keep the cells alive than performing actual research on the cells, but some cells from Lacks's tumor sample behaved differently from others. George Gey was able to isolate one specific cell, multiply it, and start a cell line. Gey named the sample HeLa, after the initial letters of Henrietta Lacks' name. As the first human cells grown in a lab that were "immortal" (they do not die after a few cell divisions), they could be used for conducting many experiments indefinitely.
>>72137702
the brains of the races ahve literally diverged more than skin color.
measuring genetic drift between populations the #1 factor in drift is genitals and sperm production genes, the #2 factor is genes in the brain. appearance is something like #8 in terms of distance of drift and rate of change
>>72137683
Christ, Abos are so irredeemably, repulsively disgusting. You can even find a moderately good looking nigress every now and then but these things are just...I can't even...
>>72130717
>Virtually everyone who works in human evolutionary biology understands this anon.
https://twitter.com/richarddawkins/status/678519868166152192
>>72138117
>obamacare
anyone with a basic understanding of how to pool risk, percentages, or alpha could have told you obamacare would fail. it was a mathematical certainty.
but 99% of fucking idiots can't do percentages. we need to end universal suffrage
>>72130717
guess dog breeds don't exist either then
>>72137702
>actually the brains of different races are more different than the skin or hair.
List the differences.
>>72138310
You can see the point where he just gives up and goes "It's real, but I'm sure there is a social construct somewhere"
It's the textbook application of critical theory.
>>72130214
First step is to define race. If you define it as an imperfect grouping, then data that show imperfect grouping can still support the concept.
What "race is a social construct" people do is define race as a perfect grouping, with no overlap, and with homogeneity within groups. This ridiculously high bar makes it impossible to find data that support it.
>>72137937
Used to be, sure. My generation has put a huge emphasis and focus on literature evaluation. You must have the ability to separate good and bad information. ARe the large hospitals corrupt? Yeah, to an extent. They all have their measures to hit, like duration of stay post surgery, post infection, etc...
For example, at my hospital, we have a metric of discharge rate by 72 hours after a total hip replacement. If someone develops a complication that results in a longer stay (one full 24 hour stay costs about 11 grand on this floor, btw, which is why we want them outta there) then that patient eats up 5 figure chunk per day.
So there is a huge incentive for the medical director to get them the fuck out. Are they discharge MAYBE A TAD EARLIER than they REALLY should be, on the 69th or 70th hour to not hit that 72nd hour? Do we skip that last rehab session or that last scan sometimes? Yes we do.
But that's not the physicians fault, you will lose that battle every time. If there is a 0.5% chance of it happening, but you want to give them another 11k a day stay, you will lose that fight. Just how it is.
>>72138323
Every physician I know knew it'd be a colossal failure. It was alllll about politics and money. The insurance companies wrote the policies, not politicians, and definitely not physicians and hospital admins who'd have to implement these policies and are the ground level workers on it.
>>72138117
Do you see fee for outcome happening or do you suppose the pendulum will seing back towards services rendered?
>>72138323
Other countries have socialized healthcare and do fine.
>>72138650
I think you'll see fee for outcome come within hospitals first, or insurance companies first, not as a federal mandate (unless it's medicare). You would have a very hard time to differentiate what a 'good' or 'bad' outcome is, because of what I've said before. The races are fucking different. A cardiologist in Colorado is going to have awesome outcomes compared to a cardiologist in Mississippi or Louisiana. Should they be compared head to head? Obviously not. I don't see how you can do it, but that doesn't mean they won't try. The top level politicians and policy makers have largely had an egalitarian view, although that is obviously not the case.
Blacks have way higher rates of heart failure and high blood pressure, and are way more resistant to treatment. Couple that with Mississippi having the highest obesity rate, the patient population in MS is god awful compared to Colorado, which is mostly white with the lowest obesity rate in the country.
>>72130214
One of my biggest fears is just how much information is kept quiet because of some people think it's racist. Granted, it might as well be, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong though.
>>72138576
I've never read anything about discharge timetables. that's interesting.
at the same time, I've read papers that say emergency dispatch doesn't even improve survival rates for things like heart attacks and embolisms, which seems impossible at first, but when you get into the details begins to make sense
imo, quite honestly, I'm beginning to think no one but the upper quartile iq of the population deserves any non-vector disease medical care, at all
>bummercare
politics is getting people to say the sky isn't blue these days. america is doomed
>>72138650
conversely, there are DEFINITELY different levels of competency, especially in surgery. But surgeons, if they are accomplished enough, do get to name their price for their services from hospitals. Primary care too, but I cannot fathom a model where treating diabetes, cholesterol and high blood pressure in different states and different patient populations can have the same pricing model based on outcomes.
>>72138938
not really. plunging birth rates and accruing unconscionable levels of debt because youth are paying for immigrants and obese old people isn't "fine."
you guys ever use the phrase "rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic?"
that's every situation in europe that's "fine" or "fixable" at the moment. best luck to you with that, sinead o'connor
>>72139183
>I've never read anything about discharge timetables. that's interesting.
Oh, a hospital is never going to publically admit it, but it's definitely a top 5 point at meetings on the recovery floor, and I do see why. You can't have people laying around for a week when other hospitals are getting them out in 3 days.
The problem is that is CAN LEAD to healthcare being compromised. Thankfully, most nurses are SJWs for their patients, and vehemently fight against it, since their jobs are not tied to this discharge rate at all, only the attending and/or resident is.
>>72135106
It says those birds CAN cross-breed...
Also you just gave 2 confusing examples.
The gorillas who are inbred and similar, yet different species.
Then chimpanzees that are very different... but the same species?
>>72139433
health care is already compromised, for children, the healthy, the law abiding, the smart.
the entirety of the system is built around the needs of obese niggers. maybe a little compromise on this part of the oath is necessary
>>72135777
Sure, all those things. The ideal mate is in the right age range, healthy, with good vision, athletically gifted, high-functioning intelligent, without a history of heart disease, vision problems, or any other real genetic defect in her family. She also needs to be basically compatible on a personal level so that you can build a real relationship and stay together at least long enough for the children to mature in a stable household.
Give me that and I really don't give a flying fuck what color the wrapping is.
>>72130214
My college freshmen level biology book says race is a social construct.
Are the biologists wrong?
>>72139706
you're not totally wrong. 90% of what I treat is preventable with diet and exercise. The car wrecks and broken bones and cancers, I have no problem with. The 400 lb guy with the double knee replacement (courtesy of taxpayer medicare/medicaid) who then doesn't take his meds and has a clot lodge in his lungs (pulmonary embolism, another invasive treatment, courtesy of the taxpayer) who has to stay in the hospital for a week (100k+ bill, courtesy of the taxpayer) I have a little bit harder time feeling all that bad for.
>>72139406
You know you guys have the exact same problem, right?
>>72139893
no your text book is just written by kikes.
t. biologist
>>72139893
Don't you know goy, descent with modification and modification by natural selection applies to all animals except humans.
>>72140136
you were saying other countries successfully socialized healthcare. this was an incorrect statement. I then proceeded to show categorically why this was not the case, and that none of the things you think are fixable can be fixed. I never said we didn't have the same problem.
>>72140020
you should be killing them, desu
100k can send a kid to grad school for math, or keep a chinese kid from starving.
there's a death penalty in every city on the planet for stepping in front of a moving bus. letting obese people die isn't unethical
>>72140656
>letting obese people die isn't unethical
I actually don't totally disagree, if we didn't have to pay medicare and SS tax all our lives. We pay into the system, we're obligated to get the benefits later.
But yeah, it'd be a pretty huge cost savings
>>72139054
>>72139228
Understandablr and thanks for the input.
Looking back/if you were to advise another, think it will be a worthwhile gig going forward in the face of dropping reimbursements and increasing regulation?
>>72130214
Depends on what you mean by "race." Populations of longstanding different geographic origins generally have some physiological and physical differences as far as I know.
>>72140799
If you specialize, yes. But it is 100% impossible to open your own private practice now. Absolutely no chance. You have to join one of the big boys, which sucks. There is a MASSIVE shortage of family practitioners, especially in rural areas, but you're literally taking a 50% pay cut to do that as opposed to being a specialist at a major hospital. Despite what you may think, 90% of physicians ARE in it for the money, because we get paid a fuckton.
>>72130214
Race is a biological reality.
Social equality; civilizational equality; racial equality; the Holocaust are "social constructs".
>>72139893
Lots of things that are quite real can also be interpreted as "social constructs." The fact that something has a socially-constructed aspect does not imply that it doesn't exist.
For example, "old-looking" is a social construct. This, of course, does not imply that there are no old people.
Actual biologists (rather that political functionaries with an agenda) would spend time on their research and not on semantic trickery to try and push misleading claims.
>>72140765
we aren't obligated to anything. servicing the needs of obese people whilst ignoring childhood cancer or the cancer of a working man is due to interest groups and lobbying, and is tantamount to the murder of the child
no one deserves anything, because the only ones whose "deserved" services are ever met, are the ones with political power. the word "deserve" is just a way for interest groups to exploit the pity of stupid, nice people.
power is real, it exists, and even if not used to kill, is used to save one life over another.
they aren't obligated any treatment at all. these kinds of patients would be fed drip anaesthetic and left to die in east asia.
>>72132614
Filipinos are mostly Austronesians+Europeans IIRC. Native Americans are largely descended from waves of migrants who moved from Siberia to the Americas.
>>72140962
it's a lot, but not THAT much. is, especially regarding taxes, school loans, late starting age, insurance, etc. med school full of people who aren't smart enough to go into banking or something?
>>72135264
It sometimes appears in other populations with roots in very hot, humid regions.
>>72141313
the genetic distance between austronesians and europeans is not closer because of admixture. notice that east asians are also closer on the chart. the reason is that despite relative time of divergence being less between asians and native americans, there are several ways of measuring basal rates of change, which will each account for percentage of genes in different methods. do you count "junk" dna? do you count ALL dna, or only coding dna? or only the RACIALLY different dna?
there's so many ways of measuring it that don't make much sense unless you're familiar with molecular genetics.
east asians and europeans are more similar than to native americans because they all started out from the same pool of genes, and east asians and europeans whittled away at the bad parts of the genes, cutting away the same bad parts mostly, thus ending up more similar despite the divergence over time. native americans diverged earlier, but have hardly pruned the bad parts of their DNA at all, good genes haven't proliferated as widely (such as neanderthal dna) and they have an overall VERY narrow genetic profile, thus leaving less room for similarity.
>>72130717
No one with basic notions in biology would confuse a specie and a race (sub-divisions within a specie)
Try again, "human race" is a term used by ignorants only
>>72131671
This graph is retarded, because you can`t calculate ancestry in 4+ generation with modern methods. "Genetic markers" does not mean anything - there are millions of them.
>>72134075
Sure, ignore the abject poverty and amorality that characterises Africa just because a magic nigger with 200 IQ exists somewhere. Do you realise how moronic you sound? Don't even call yourself a statistician, you're a disgrace.
>>72135476
Testosterone affects general development of skeletal muscle. That's much, much more than just fast-twitch muscle fibers.
Excesses of testosterone can lead to aggression and irregular temperament, but it's incredibly simplistic to use criminal conviction rates as a gauge. Anyone who implies that simple numbers of criminal convictions are an accurate, unbiased source of information on racial disparities in aggression is either pushing an agenda or is just full of shit.
>>72139864
tfw same goals but im blind af
guess ill start the subterranean mole hominid lineage
>>72137683
Ebin cherrypicking and false comparison.
>>72142299
do you realize how dumb you sound
>>72131159
>In 1997, he told a British newspaper that a woman should have the right to abort her unborn child if tests could determine it would be homosexual. He later insisted he was talking about a "hypothetical" choice which could never be applied. He has also suggested a link between skin colour and sex drive, positing the theory that black people have higher libidos, and argued in favour of genetic screening and engineering on the basis that "stupidity" could one day be cured. He has claimed that beauty could be genetically manufactured, saying: "People say it would be terrible if we made all girls pretty. I think it would great."
You got a real winner on your hands, senpai.
>>72140656
If we have the exact same problem using a different system, that heavily implies it is not either system that is the problem.
Races = real. Don't fall from the progressive propaganda from Boas, Gould & co.
Human Species with race being a variable of the SPECIES
Anyone who says they're a scientist/intellectual and conflates species with race is a moron who has no place in fact based studies.
>>72138400
Ebin false comparison. Dog breeds were achieved through a relatively short period of draconian breeding programs. They're so inbred that certain diseases have become almost expected in many breeds.
>>72130214
Haha, wrong! A big wrong! There's only one race and it's the human race.
>>72142698
how are you going to talk about the details of a very specific and easy to understand situation in vague terms.
christ I've never met a smart irishman and you're just driving this home.
pooling risk among individuals of similar risk profiles is something that works. pooling different risk pools together results in wealth transfer. by definition it CANNOT work. that is a system. it DOES NOT WORK. other systems can also NOT WORK, but in no way does another system failure imply that it's "not the system."
jesus fuck. the british should have finished you guys off a long time ago
>>72130214
>>72130717
What is this, 2011? Even the Out of Africa theory is outdated in the current year, you fucking 1960s LARPers
>>72130214
No.
You fail to understand what a social construct is.
Are there genetic differences between people?
Of course.
But any attempt to classify them into "races" that come anywhere close to "black, white, latino, asian?" Nope. There is zero scientific support for it.
What you mean by races has no biological basis. That there are genetic differences between human populations is indisputable fact.
>>72143272
"Social construct" is a progressive bogus term used to imply that something is biologically baseless, while at the same time acknowledging a biological basis.
It takes very little to create a taxon in many species in biology. There is an old rule that if you can tell a member of a race apart 8 times out 10 then you have a valid differentiation.
In short, race denial is progressives trying to BS themselves out of the fact that differences exist but that they are not 100% segregated.
>>72143151
If you do not have THAT SYSTEM. Then THAT SYSTEM cannot possibly be to blame for your low birth rates,
We do have THAT SYSTEM. and we have low birth rates as well.
Therefore, why the fuck are you blaming THAT SYSTEM for a problem observed in places that do not have THAT SYSTEM.
>, but in no way does another system failure imply that it's "not the system."
Unbelievably, ameriburger, you've managed to fuck up and blame socialized healthcare for both the problems of europe and america despite the fact that you do not have socialized healthcare to blame in the first place.I have no idea how you've managed to equate a problem not related to THAT SYSTEM to blame it, but I'm going to go with the red scare.
>how are you going to talk about the details of a very specific and easy to understand situation in vague terms.
By talking vaguely, I guess. Your English is shit btw, you running Spanish through google translate?
>>72143860
No, it isn't.
It is pointing out that classifications of "races" such as "black" and "white" are based on societal, cultural definitions that have no biological underpinning.
Phylogeny is a science. Classical taxonomy is not. What you are referring to is the second.
Like OP, you simply do not understand the topic you are discussing.
>>72139406
>>72139706
>>72140020
>>72140656
Honestly I think one of the biggest issues in modern healthcare is the cultural attitude of prolonging death at all costs. IIRC much of an individual's medical payments are within their last months of life. If there was a choice between an 86 year old with congestive heart failure, blindness, renal failure, and no ambulatory ability and a 15 year old with cancer or multiple fractured bones, I'd say the elderly individual should not have treatment priority.
>>72144148
Races are based on the biological reality of the differences in morphology, pigmentation and other characteristics.
Classical taxonomy is a perfectly valid science, unless you are a SJW or some other progressive dnier of reality.
>>72144148
>It is pointing out that classifications of "races" such as "black" and "white" are based on societal, cultural definitions that have no biological underpinning.
But black people have black kids and white people have white kids.
There, now you have some biological foundation.
>>72132614
Flips are literally mesitzos of SEA so you're a fucking retard
>>72143272
sureeeee....
>>72130717
Grow up and learn something freak
>>72144148
http://pastebin.com/PpY46T8t
>>72130214
difference in neanderthal genes from euros+asians vs africans, check it out
>>72144102
nonsocialized healthcare can fail. socialized healthcare is guaranteed to fail. when both fail simultaneously, you want me to accept that this is evidence that somehow, socialization is not to blame for the failure of a socialized healthcare scheme?
fucking think about this for two seconds
>>72144158
50% of total SS and medicare spending occurs within the last TWENTY FOUR HOURS of life. that's a quarter of the entire national expenditure that occurs to prolong the life of someone who is guaranteed to die for one more day.
old people need to accept death gracefully. i've talked to old people about this and they literally say that they'd rather see children starve than accept cuts to medicare or ss. let these selfish fuckers burn in hell
>>72144665
Sure, that picture totally is right even though their is so many obvious mistakes in it.
>>72130214
You're an idiot. If those things grew up in a middle class home with the same luxuries you had and ate vegetables as kids, they would be the same size as you
>>72144525
flips could pass for fucking injuns any day
does he look more white or chug?
>>72143272
see:
>>72136300
http://www.cell.com/action/showImagesData?pii=S0002-9297%2810%2900364-2
looks like the classic racial categories for the most part.
>>72144891
list them :)
>>72143036
isn't that just an artificial, accelerated form of speciation?
>>72145060
Ok
>>Caucasoid
>Blond, red hair, brown tones
False. Caucasians have black hair
>light skin
False, Caucasian have tan skin, Nordics have light skin
>straight hair
false Caucasians have curly hair
>Light eyes
False Caucasians have dark eyes, not black but still dark
>small eye sockets
false caucasians have more boogly eyes than Asians or Africans
>>Mongoloid
>yellowish skin
False it's brown-white
>>Australoid
That's not an Australoid skull
>>72142810
Saved. The morphological difference is indeed astronomical.
>>72145420
That's what I was tihnking also. What does it matter how the race comes into existence?
>>72145434
hahaha what the fuck are you downs?
>>72145434
Wrong on every point there laddy.
>>72145866
I just listed them retard. You're actually so stupid because that pic was created to make races seem farther apart.
>>72145719
it doesn't matter. it's a point of contention for liberals who want to deny that genetics actually functions. they want to pretend that genetics are this big soup that somehow creates life from matter via the will of god with no need for functioning parts or mechanisms
speciation is a convenient line for them to draw in the sand to rally idiots to their support
>>72145938
What are you fucking talking about? Actually leave your house. Nazi posters aren't sources.
>>72133030
Ah fuck m8 you got me arrested ya tosser!
>>72145999
>>72146150
no matter how wrong that picture is, it doesn't change the obvious differences that exist between the human races.
disproving the facts stated there doesn't change the truth
>>72145999
the "black" of caucasoid hair is just dark brown
the hair is straight or wavy, especially compared to negroids
the eyes are often dark brown in no european caucasoids, yes
the eye SOCKETS are smaller, hence why the eyes dont look like cat pussy slits in caucasoids
the skin is yellow tinged ranging from pale Korean to dark Atacama Native American
that is indeed an Australian Aboriginal skull
>>72135762
other swedes sven
>>72130214
Nobody other than progressives argues that race doesn't exist. It does. The ideas associated with race and the conclusion autists on /pol/ draw from race are social constructs though.
>>72144905
what is insular dwarfism?
>>72144781
>. when both fail simultaneously, you want me to accept that this is evidence that somehow, socialization is not to blame for the failure of a socialized healthcare scheme?
When two systems both give the result of low birth rates, it is logical to think there is a different common cause. Especially when the two systems are polar opposites.
>>72130214
>Is there any scientists who believe race isn't a social construct, that race does exist?
yes but they get shunned from the scientific community and all their jew researchers if they come out publicly with it
>>72146150
>nazi
ah, you are a waste of flesh. Move along folks.
>>72146875
for your own benefit, learn about pooling risk. insurance and health isn't the only application of pooled risk.
I'm not saying that incompetent governments are not also to blame. but socialized medecine literally CANNOT work. your stubborn refusal to investigate the math into the issue, immediately resorting to deductive logic when we have perfectly valid mathematical evidence is fucking aggravating
read about this for your own benefit. you mgiht be 90 iq whites, but you're still white. try not to fuck up your country, please.
>>72146552
Very tiny differences.
>>72146564
>the "black" of caucasoid hair is just dark brown.
So this is just dark brown? https://www.google.ca/search?q=joseph+goebbels+in+colour&rlz=1C1VFKB_enCA678CA678&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwia85SToK3MAhVJVD4KHcr8Dn8Q_AUIBygB&biw=1920&bih=955#imgrc=15OCqSU6Mg9DDM%3A
>the hair is straight or wavy, especially compared to negroids
It's curly and think. Like Rob Ross
>the eyes are often dark brown in no european caucasoids, yes
They are dark brown in every caucasoid including all parts of Europe. Nazi posters are not the norm.
>the eye SOCKETS are smaller, hence why the eyes dont look like cat pussy slits in caucasoids
Not as small as Asian sockets.
>the skin is yellow tinged ranging from pale Korean to dark Atacama Native American
So not just yellow?
>that is indeed an Australian Aboriginal skull
No it isn't. Another 4chan user confirmed it was Homo Erectus.
>>72147092
You are clearly a waste of flesh. Thinking MADISON GRANT is a source.
>>72130717
genes here
you'r gay and dumb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup
>>72147358
how come i know you're not white?
>>72135106
there are even species that can interbreed horses and donkeys, tigers and lions. Some interspecies hybrids can even breed further.
There is the human species and within that species there are several human races. There is nothing wrong with that that.
If you hate niggers because niggers you dont care if political correctness calls it one human race. There is really no point in lying
>>72147815
I'm Irish, don't know if you guys consider that white anymore, haven't been caught up on it.
>>72130214
Hominid admixture. Again HOMINID ADMIXTURE.
We are all MIXED SUB SPECIES. We should still be considered MIXED SUBSPECIES Of the Homo Genus. That's the way it is.
>>72147836
when horses and donkeys and tigers and lions breed there are errors in the chromosomes relating to reproduction because of the different in utero functions of the x and y chromosome incompatibilities. funny enough, this happens between races to a lesser extent, at the same sites relating to fetal growth, hunger, and impulse control
of course it does exist
>>72147189
>for your own benefit, learn about pooling risk. insurance and health isn't the only application of pooled risk.
We were specifically talking about socialized healthcare.
> but socialized medecine literally CANNOT work. your stubborn refusal to investigate the math into the issue,
Transfer of wealth works fine. As long as you don't start transferring from new generations to old ones.
>Is there any scientists who believe race isn't a social construct, that race does exist?
Actually, that is not even true, outside of countries infected by PC, most scientists believe in race.
-As can be seen, belief in human races among researchers varies depending on where in the world you look. But the only place where there is anything like a consensus is China, and the consensus there is that race exists. The claim that no credible scientists believe in race is thus clearly false.-
>>72148652
Oh my God learn what those words mean.
Source for above: look up "How and Why Scientists Lie About Race"
>>72148278
i just wanted to point out that being able to produce offspring with each other doesnt mean two individual people or animals are of the same race
>>72130717
http://shs2.westport.k12.ct.us/forensics/11-forensic_anthropology/skeletal_analysis_worksheet.htm#race
You remember how everyone says that on the inside, we're all the same? It's bullshit. I studied forensic analysis a little bit during college (desu it's a shitty career but can be useful) and it is possible to determine race through the shape of the skull and jaw.
Race exists. I say this as a mixed German-Hong Konger.
>>72148746
beady
>>72148902
*desu not desu fuck I sound like a faggot
It clearly exists, but not in the sense that /pol/ wants it to.
Everyone knows that if you are African, there is a large probability that you will be born with sickle cell anemia, just as it is a large probability that you will have lactose intolerance if you are of Asian heritage.
But these are differences that could not make someone treat people of different races worse, because that would be a very idiotic form of naturalistic fallacy.
>>72148699
But China doesnt have any credible scientists.
>>72148996
Fuck *desu.
>>72148983
That's a compliment
>>72149008
Everyone knows thats bullshit.
>>72149089
PC America does? Yeah right, look what happened to Watson.
Professor Douglas Whitman of Illinois State University, on "The Evolutionary and Biological Reality of Race":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeb09GS7ids
>>72131671
Is it bad that from the thumbnail I saw the Merchant at the top of the image?
>>72148672
socialized healthcare necessarily pools risk...
>generational transfer
that's what ALWAYS happens
I don't know if you're intentionally acting like a fucking mic, but I'm done. jesus
>>72149008
They day I see nonwhite males fucking off blonde Nordic women I will consider the idea that races don't exist or matter. Until then, people can shove that leftist propaganda up their ass.
guess his race
>>72148897
I just wanted to add to your point, maybe you can help me spread it
interspecies offspring literally suffer the same types of diseases as interracial children, resulting from incompatibilities in methylated x dna functions related to feeding and growth
LITERALLY the same types of diseases
>>72149356
What are you talking about?
>>72149406
Anglo?
>>72131283
Nicholas Wade posts on /pol/? We're honoured Sir.
Yesterday, I ordered 'A troublesome Inheritance' and also 'Before the Dawn'. Can't wait to read them!
>>72149406
Looks like some italian jew hybrid
>>72149725
He wants to be able to discriminate against groups he seems to be inferior to his own. That's why /pol/ thinks that 'talking about race' must also mean accepting white superiority and black inferiority. Why else do you think they phrase the question like this? The scientific community accepts that race exists, just not that some races are inherently superior/inferior. Of course, this is just propaganda to autistic crypto-stormfags.
>>72149406
black people are the only ethnic group with flat hair follicles. all other groups have round or oval
he is at least partially a nig and therefore he is a nig as per the 1 drop rule states
>>72149725
Exactly what I said. Progressive hypocrites claim race doesn't matter and then they go for the best blondes. It's all BS that nobody really believes in.
>>72150019
>The scientific community accepts that race exists, just not that some races are inherently superior/inferior.
Which was exactly the point of my original post.
The point isn't that there aren't differences between racial categories of humans, the point is that these differences couldn't make you behave or treat in a specific way against a group, because that is a naturalistic fallacy, and shows that one is being irrational.
It's like saying homosexuality is wrong because the "natural order" is for women and men to have sex and procreate. As if this proves anything at all. Good luck "proving" an "is" from an "ought".
>>72150019
>one race can't read dr. seuss
>can't farm
>kills at a rate of 50x greater per capita
>has plumbing and free food and is still stupider than vietnamese rice farmers without running water
>another race discovers subatomic particles
>no criteria for superiority exists!
>>72150339
>>naturalistic fallacy
There is no such thing. There is no better source for a philosophical worldview than science and facts.
>>72150339
Good luck proving an is from an ought or vice versa*
>>72131283
What are you doing posting on /pol/ if you're an actual author? This place a horrible. Every other post is a blatant lie or pseudo-intellectual crap.
>>72137683
I have a point about your joke though, there is no Genetic Jew. Right? Therefore what the fuck is that about?
>>72132304
>because one intelligent black person exist, blacks are the same as whites
Kill yourself.
>>72150476
Which you're ignoring to fit your narrative.
>>72150450
It doesn't. These aren't criteria for superiority or superiority since all races have their imbeciles. Just because a certain race tends to have more of something on average doesn't mean that they are all like that. You people love to make massive generalizations about individuals based on group says when it suits you, but not when it doesn't.
>>72137683
Wolves and Dogs are the same species you fucking tard. Holy Shitposting, Batman, this is some ebin cherrypicking.
>>72150931
I am only describing reality and drawing conclusions from it.
>>72150900
The fact that an intelligent black person exists disproved the assertion that all blacks are idiots. Nice argument you have there.
>>72150476
>There is no better source for a philosophical worldview than science and facts.
Facts cannot be a source of a philosophical worldview, because a philosophical worldview is about valuing certain behaviors in humans.
It's a fact that white people have a higher chance of getting skin cancer, does this mean that we should hate white people because they are weak?
>>72150931
>Just because a certain race tends to have more of something on average doesn't mean that they are all like that.
All races have their intelligent ones. We can't belive they are all like that.
Don't make massive generalizations about individuals when it suits you.
>>72151024
No, you're not. You're taking your opinions and claiming that they represent reality. There's a difference. I would think that someone that belongs to the high IQ master race would know how to properly formulate and argument and how to differentiate between opinion and fact.
>>72150931
one race has so many violent imbeciles that there is constant civil war, cannibalism, starvation, child sacrifice, and murder
one race has so few that people live lives of peace and quiet, dedicated to learning kindness and advancing science and curing disease
but of course, this isn't a criteria for superiority or anything, so why don't you get the fuck out and live in africa, since it's not inferior?
>>72133030
That abo skull is terrifying, it has an extremely underdeveloped frontal lobe.
What I take from this is that there are two races, Abos and Humans.
>>72151344
Still not evidence that they are all like that and still not an argument for superiority. In order for a race to truly be superior, whatever that means, you would need to prove that all whites are superior to all blacks in all cases. That's not the case so superiority is not apparent.
>>72151151
>Facts cannot be a source of a philosophical worldview, because a philosophical worldview is about valuing certain behaviors in humans.
So much wrong about this that it's hard to now where to start.
Philosophy is about thinking to make sense of the world and decide what your ought to do.
You can only know about the world at all from facts. There is only one reality.
It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with behavior or humans in particular, much less values.
A sound philosophy can only come for the realization that we, as a race, have an evolutionary biological interest to spread out genes and survive in the future.
EVERYTHING ELSE: human rights, values, freedoms, etc is arbitrary unscientific progressive nonsense.
>>72151755
What an incredibly specific set of goal posts you've moved there.
>>72151889
That's what's required to prove superiority. The fact that there are blacks that are smarter than whites proves just how absurd your arguments based on race really are. Or is a black person that is smarter than a white person somehow still inferior to the white person simply for being black? Your collectivist idea doesn't hold up to scrutiny, don't whine about moving goalposts. That's not what's happening.
>>72134845
It's only a kid gene, he a good boy
>>72151822
>decide what your ought to do
That's the point you moron. Nothing in nature can give you what "you ought to do".
>>72152466
What source is better than nature, objectively? We have instincts, desires, brain functions, body parts, etc. What we have to do is follow them. Humans are not born like a blank book.
>>72152740
>We have instincts, desires, brain functions, body parts, etc
And you can choose to not follow them.
Do you think suicide doesn't exist or what?
>>72152740
This is an incredibly stupid argument. People have the urge to murder people they don't like, rape women, etc. These are all natural urges, should we allow ourselves to do these too?
>>72152902
You can choose not to, but that doesn't mean it's what your ought to do.
Once again, which source is objectively better than nature?
>>72152902
You can choose not to, but that doesn't mean it's what you ought to do. If people adences their own interests, you wouldn't have asylum, mass immigration etc.
Once again, which source is objectively better than nature?
>>72152920
You fail to grasp what I'm saying. I'm talking about guiding principles, not necessarily every situation.
>>72153054
>>72153167
You're not explaining how you get any "ought" from anything.
You are saying "objective nature exists, therefore you ought to hate asylum seekers and mass immigration" and that's a fallacy.
>>72153347
Once again you dodge the question. You get to ought from looking at what you are scientifically, EVOLUTIONARILY designed to do. There is simply no more objective source.
Sweden and Norway commit suicide and sin against nature with this mass migration, so by any truly objective scientific standard, they ought NOT to continue.
>>72153295
Your arguments make no sense. Why would I grasp something that isn't even coherent?
>>72130214
fact: give them a western diet and they grow tall
>>72153565
>You get to ought from looking at what you are scientifically, EVOLUTIONARILY designed to do.
Like this guy said>>72152920
Something being natural doesn't make it right or correct.
>>72138117
its pretty cool that slavery continues on in even the most advanced professions.
>>72130214
Note that one sign of cultural collapse is the widespread inability to distinguish mental health from mental illness. You can ignore reality but not the consequence of ignoring reality.
