Hello, I'm a Mexican-American who usually never frequents /pol/, but I was wondering why the lot of you support Trumpo?
He has lied about hiring illegals, has scammed people with his stupid products, and he has sent his jobs to China.
How can you trust a person that has consistently cheated people out of their money and has gone bankrupt several times before?
Please, keep this thread clean and civilized. I want to have a serious discussion without trolling for once.
Any sane person?
>>72088071
He's a businessman before a politician. He knows how to maximize profit.
>gone bankrupt
That's 4-5 times out of 505. That's a 99.9998% success rate.
And one must out-jew the jew
Besides, what else is there? A traitor? A commie Jew? A bible-thumping rat? A literally who?
>>72088071
ADDRESSING TRUMP’S BANKRUPTCIES & GENERAL SUCCESS
He's worth about $10 billion dollars according to the official financial disclosure of assets required to run for president. Although prices are given within a range, that's a valid official estimate and not even the highest possible.
Beyond that, as he says in his book:
>"I don't do it for the money. I’ve got enough, much more than I’ll ever need. I do it to do it. Deals are my art form."
>He bankrupted 4 times.
He didn't go personally bankrupt. 1 of his 515 businesses was restructured through Chapter 11, a procedure that involves a reorganization of a debtor's business affairs and assets.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/248817-trump-holds-515-positions-campaign-filing-says
To be more precise, one of his companies was restructured three times before he decided to sell it just in time before the 2008 crisis took a major hit on Atlantic City, a decision praised by pundits and experts alike.
http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20151215/REAL_ESTATE/151219898/how-trump-won-and-lost-in-atlantic-city
Even Bill Gates has gone through this kind of bankruptcy with Optim Energy LLC per instance.
http://www.reuters.com/article/optimenergy-bankruptcy-idUSL2N0LH14M20140212
His success rate is around 99%. That's a very high success rate considering the fact that 80% of startup companies end up in failure.
http://billionsuccess.com/2014/10/accidentally-in-business-infographic
DO NOT LET THEM INTIMIDATE YOU
>>72088377
>505
Depends. If you're a conservative then Ted cruz's policies aren't far off from trumps. If you're a Moderate republican then gaysick is a good choice. Marco Rubio was fine also.
>>72088507
Thanks India.
>>72088071
I used to vote for candidates based on their position on policies and the like, but I support Trump because of his personality and demeanor.
I am tired of listening to politicians give the same canned speeches and politically correct bs that has enveloped our presidential process.
I know where Trump stands on the issues because he speaks his mind, even if I don't agree with all of his policies.
As an added bonus, I would love to partake in witnessing the mass liberal butthurt and suicides if he does win the general election in Novemeber.
t. Californian
>>72088507
POO IN LOO
>>72088071
>How can you trust a person that has consistently cheated people out of their money and has gone bankrupt several times before?
Apply that same line of thinking (using past experiences with people to predict future trends) to illegal immigrants and Muslims in the US
They're awful and they must go (Trump is the only politician to promise us a real country with real borders)
>>72088071
Have you seen Trump voters? They are like Obamabots, low information retards, sorry but at this point a fat drunk demented old bastard could run wearing a santa suit and fake beard and win these votes because who doesn't like "father christmas" baka
>>72088944
>They're awful
I actually agree with a lot of Trump's policies, but it's people like you that turn me away from trump (and others). It's also his rhetoric when speaking about immigration trying to dehumanize them. Other than that, I usually completely agree with him.
>>72089177
Yeah, his voters are a big turn off.
I am a one issue voter this cycle. All I care about is not giving amnesty and securing the border. Its probably already too late, but if we add another 30 million mexicans we have no chance of ever swinging the nation back to the right. You mexicans are born marxists who want free shit.
every viable candidate for the last twenty election cycles has been a bald faced liar.
all of the candidates that could possibly win this election (El Rato Cruz, Rubio if he gets cheated in, Shillary Cunton and Trump) have lied on record plenty of times about random shit here and there. In Trump's case, hiring undocumented workers, in Hillary's, violating top secret security protocol and Benghazi... yknow, just a couple things here and there.
Trump has never been personally bankrupt. He filed for bankruptcy on behalf of several companies immediately after acquiring them as part of a restructuring process.
>Trump sent jobs to China
as any self-respecting businessman would. our trade deals with China are so horrible for American workers that only an idiot would choose not to outsource if the opportunity made itself available (which in Trump's case, it did). It's precisely because of those shitty trade deals that Trump wants to renegotiate in such a way that hurts foreign national, globalist, and megacorporate interests, and aids the American worker.
the specific details of what will and will not happen under a Trump presidency are honestly less important than the gestalt. will the Don be able to achieve exactly the immigration and trade reform he wants to? maybe. it's all 100% Constitutional. maybe Congress will stab him in the back at the negotiating table. but at least someone is trying.
anything else I can help you to understand? will you continue to spread the 'Trump went bankrupt' meme in the future? will you continue to hold outsourcing against him, now that you understand that outsourcing is a product of a system he is trying to destroy?
>>72088879
Socal stands with you brother
Maybe your the 25% that wont vote for socialism, but on a whole your people are turning into what black people do. One huge voting bloc that loves communism.
>>72088507
based poo
>>72088071
I don't blame him for sending jobs to China, and I don't blame companies doing it now. If you are employed at a company and your job is to make as much money as possible for the company you can't fucking compete by locating in America. Trump wants to make it so we're competitive again. Trump has suggested threatening tariffs in order to get countries to play fair, which led to people saying that doing so will cause them to institute retaliatory tariffs. Which makes a lot of sense and sounds scary until you realize they all already fucking have them and we're the only ones without it. We are already in an economic war but our country is just pretending we aren't and letting ourselves get fucked in the ass
He has never gone bankrupt. A few of his companies were restructured using government programs which all ended up great for him. If you look into the specifics they were all great deals and he got out at just the right time
>>72089441
>You mexicans are born marxists who want free shit.
Do you get all your news from FOX? Paco doesn't cross the border so he can live off welfare, and statistics show this isn't that case:
http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/
Most have no political view either, only around 20% of the eligible Mexican-American population votes.
I don't mind that you are anti-immigrant, but please get your facts straight. Just because you saw two sjw college-going chicanos talk about" hurr white privilege" on some campus doesn't mean we're all liberal retards.
>>72089654
>Maybe your the 25% that wont vote for socialism, but on a whole your people are turning into what black people do. One huge voting bloc that loves communism.
Those statistics show overall Hispanic votes. Like I said in my previous post, most Mexican-Americans are apolitical. Where did this we love commies myth come from?
>>72089710
The problem with china is that they have a very closed market. We have to forcefully open them up somehow. I think moving our industry from China to southeast Asia would probably be the best threat to them. Idk if tariffs go far enough, or if they'd even care.
>>72088071
This board is just a satire in case you haven't noticed. People are on it just for the memes.
>>72089177
honestly it's just selection bias. have you ever wondered to yourself how it can be possible that whenever you read something retarded on the Internet, it's usually an American? hence the Americlap meme etc.
the real reason for it is that there are just a whole lot of Americans, and Americans speak much more loudly and openly about things than most Europeans. we also do be loud while indulging in tourism abroad which has earned us quite a reputation for idiocy. it's not really that Americans are more stupid, just that the Americans who are stupid are really, really visible.
Trump is simply the candidate with the most outspoken supporters, not the least intelligent supporters. there are masses and masses of ignorant, stupid, terrible people who are going to vote for Hillary, or who voted for, let's say, John Kerry. but you would never know, because, unlike Trump supporters, they aren't as inclined to talk about their favorite candidate all the time. it's just that those particular retards are more quiet and don't really give a shit about their candidate the way Trump supporters care about Trump.
Trump's base is high-energy and very passionate. In any crowd, the retarded voices are most audible. Trump just has the loudest crowds.
>>72089803
70% of Mexicans vote for Dems. Sorry, I think our gov. is large enough as is. Im tired of never ending growing state. I would have no problem with your people if they werent so hell bent on a one party state.
>>72090011
Trump's intent is to move our industry to America. Don't know if it will work to be honest, many of the CEOs might say fuck America in exchange for money and only operate outside instead
>>72090045
>70% of Mexicans vote for Dem
70% of that 20% that actually vote. That is because most of the ones that vote are indoctrinated in colleges and universities. They aren't born as liberals, they become liberals.
>>72090172
>many of the CEOs might say fuck America in exchange for money
I'm not sure if you understand the plan. the plan is to put into place trade policy that will make operating in America the most profitable option.
>>72090026
Normally I would agree but you forget the fact only a retarded mother fucker could vote for the scam.
>>72088071
I just really really hate mexicans and every one that goes back is a small, beautiful victory.
>>72090339
what?
>>72090435
I see.
>>72090572
you reply to the shitty memesters who only tell you to fuck off or spout racist shit, but you don't respond to my posts. I'm a bit disappointed, OP
>>72090480
>wat
Don't play retarded, you heard me faggot.
>>72088071
>asks for serious discussion
>there is no substance to his post except the standard talking shitpoints form MSM
>>72088071
As Dr. Sleepy Head said himself, America needs a president that is not going to be controlled by the puppet masters in D.C
Out of the candidates that have any chance of winning at all, it is obvious that Trump is the only one with the courage and the money to be politically incorrect when necessary to bring afloat topics that must be discussed, usually avoided by liberal cucks trying not to offend people.
I want to become an American citizen one day, and I would rather not see the country fall apart ruptured by self loathing leftists, like many countries in Europe.
>>72088071
>asks question on /pol/
>wants serious answers
You do relaize that's never going to happen right
>>72088071
We want you shitskins out or dead, you choose.
>>72090712
Sorry, I'm multitasking on KC. I might have missed your post, which one in particular are you talking about?
>>72090811
So far it has been very informational and civilized, only a few have gone full retard like >>72090851
>>72088071
It's easier to trust a madman who is likely to be attacked by everyone, thus being neutralized when he gets too silly, than a GOP puppet with a history of killing political enemies left and right (and killing kids in death cults but that's kinda inconsequential)
>>72089204
They dehumanize themselves every time they sneak into the country, dodge taxes, commit crimes, or wave Mexican flags while refusing to leave. Your entire country is a testament to what America must not become - corruption, complacency, and terrible brutality enacted by the state against a population with no willingness to fight back. A population that flees here for a better life only to piss all over us Americans by clinging to their culture, refusing to swallow their pride and see Mexico for what it is.
You're not Mexican-American. You're American, or you're not.
>>72090765
What attracts me the most to him is his Israeli policy. While Cruz and Hilary ponder to the Israeli lobby, Trump seems to take a more Pro-American approach, at least.
>>72088507
What are the sizes and types of those 515 businesses? Does he count the licensing of his name? Has he released his taxes?
>>72090740
no, I actually don't know what you mean by "vote for the scam." maybe I'm just being obtuse but it's late in Clapistan and I'm sleepy. please elaborate.
>>72090858
see >>72090026, >>72089565 . BTW if you click on someone's colored post ID it highlights all posts from them in the thread
what's KC, anyway
>>72088071
I'm a Mexican, and I'll be honest with you. I am tired of illegals getting in America and shitstorming another country.
Look, illegal immigrants destabilize economy. This is because, not only does the country need to utilize more resources, but illegals obtain jobs WAY below the minimum wage (corporations exploit them due to the fact that they can't complain cause of their illegal status). Trump WILL fix this issue.
Second, while I had to wait for months to legally obtain my papers, others got in through non legit means (not fair for the people who wait).
Those are my two cents on why ME a Mexican with legal citizenship WILL vote for Trump.
>>72088071
Simple, Pedro.
Would you hire someone with years or work experience and success but turning millions into billions?
Or would you hire an "idea guy" that made it to fame by bamboozling people with donations and never did an honest days of work in their life?
>>72089204
Well, they are awful. Politically, at least. They lower average salaries by a fuckload and generally destabilize the system.
Whether they're bad people or not shouldn't even matter for a political leader; they are a problem and must be dealt with.
>>72089565
>he sold his political affiliations to Goldberg Sachs, as any good politician would
The hypocrisy is mind blowing
>>72091104
Continuing on the first point (jobs below minimum wage), it is not fair for either the illegal (cause he is getting exploited) nor the American people that get laid off due to a greedy corporation taking advantage.
Please OP, don't fuck this up. Be sane, and for the sake of America vote for Trump.
>>72088507
BUILD WALL
TOILETS FOR EVERYONE
>>72091201
Who are you quoting?
>>72091201
not sure where you saw that shit in my post
>>72088071
i've hired mexicants too, you're a slave race meant to clean our toilets. the vast majority of you are illiterate peasants, if you weren't so disgusting and retarded, it would be a joy ordering you to do menial chores.
but you are cockroaches, and your filth is starting to smell up our country, so its time to go back juan.
>>72088071
> OP throws out terrible bait
> "stay civil pls"
How well does it pay to shill for Hillary?
>>72091378
Top kek. No point pointing it out for you. Let's be honest, it wouldn't make a shred of difference.
>>72091378
I don't think the Jew shills are trying anymore.
They just go straight for the false-flags.
>>72091096
Trump is a liberal cunt running to destroy the republican party from within.
>>72090972
> every time they sneak into the country, dodge taxes, commit crimes, or wave Mexican flags while refusing to leave
It's not "Sneak into the country," it was done out of desperation mostly as a result of the economic effects NAFTA has had on Mexico. I do find them waving Mexican flags and not assimilating repulsive though. They are indoctrinated with Mexican-Nationalism from birth. Liberals are obviously not helping.
Also when i say mex-american, it's just Muh heritaging. Just how someone might say "Oh I'm irish American" obviously they don't believe they are irish at all, just ethnically, as I am not Mexican at all either.
>>72091096
Means Krautchan, one sec, I'll respond to your posts after reading them.
>>72091486
You fucked up. Take your shame and get lost.
>>72091490
>Jew
>shill
>false flag
>all these pol memes
Are you trying anymore?
>>72090910
You wish I was joking but I'm not.
We despise you. Even the """legal""" ones are all useless, uneducated vermin. Your women are dogs and your men are worse. Your kids are a plauge and soon enough the day of the rope will come and we will finish what we started 100 years ago when we took half your homeland for fun.
>>72091509
he's liberal where I like it. thank God too, the Republican party is just as full of globalist shills as the Democratic party. if only they would both go away
>>72088071
I just want to see how far his mastery of persuasion can get him. Can persuasion and populism overturn the political establishment?
>>72088071
He's also created over 20,000 jobs in the US, and has created opportunities for both men and women. He didn't hire the illegals, his contractor did, they were subcontractors. His bankruptcies were related to his business, risk is an inherent part of capitalism. The fact that he has faced financial ruin and still come out on top is a testament to his ability to run a large organization, like the executive branch.
BUILD THE WALL
>>72091520
Mexicans haven't had heritage in a long time. The rarity that does are the equivalent to Native Americans.
Most Mexicans are just Spanish muts. They cling to the culture that raped them inside and out because they don't know better or care.
Any Native Mexican that celebrates or worships Spanish culture is a disgrace.
>>72091096
I can agree with your points. No matter who's in office, the foreign policy barely changes, and the domestic policies only vary a small bit.
>, while I had to wait for months to legally obtain my papers
There is a quota on them, that's why they do. And months? Usually it takes 7-10 years, did you only get a green card or something, or are you still in the process?
>>72091104
>>72091224
Idk about a minimum wage, I'm more of a lolbertarian,
>>72091812
>There is a quota on them, that's why they do. And months? Usually it takes 7-10 years, did you only get a green card or something, or are you still in the process?
maybe you replied to the wrong poster. my family tree has been in the USA since Jamestown lol
>>72088071
Paranoia, xenophobia, racism, general fear of the other combined with a frustration over cultural shift (PC culture) coalescing into the candidate with the strongest language against foreigners.
This is basically what it is to be honest anon. This also perfectly explains the reaction of everyone else.
Trump is still so far the only candidate in this election that has promised to end the practice of interpreting the Constitution to allow anchor babies. America and Canada are the only two countries in the fucking world - on the entire planet - that practice this extreme form of cuckoldry and it has to end.
>>72091655
I see, guess that's your opinion.
>>72091776
>hey cling to the culture that raped them inside and out because they don't know better or care. Any Native Mexican that celebrates or worships Spanish culture is a disgrace.
I'd dispute this. I think you're buying into the spanish black legend too much. The natives just viewed the spanish as another conquering peoples, similar to the aztecs. There was no mass rapes or w/e, a lot of the natives willingly joined the Spanish to destroy the aztecs and were left alone to intermingle with them as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKHasVckAyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2T0VCLNJTc
can't stump the trump
>>72091886
I probably did, hue.
>>72091959
>America and Canada are the only two countries in the fucking world - on the entire planet - that practice this extreme form of cuckoldry and it has to end.
Not really, most of the Americas do. Where did you get this misinformation from?
>>72088071
his policies address the most important problems facing the country at the moment. i also really like that he isn't a career politician and can't be bought by interest groups.
>>72088071
Shills are abusing 4chan helpful nature when it comes to do anything to convert people to trump. Lurk more, faggit mejican troll.
>>72091952
>Paranoia
Not a negative trait. People without paranoia are the first to get a knife in their back.
>xenophobia
Nothing directly to do with hating illegals.
>racism
Hating illegals isn't racism.
>PC culture shift
What's happening now with Liberals, Muslims, LGBT, BLM, etc is not PC. It's borderline domestic terrorism.
There's a full-blown internal Cold War going on in America and common sense is losing because politicians are swaying to whomever will throw money at them.
>>72092343
> Shills are abusing 4chan helpful nature when it comes to do anything to convert people to trump. Lurk more, faggit mejican troll
I'm not a 4channer or whatever. This is actually the first time in a year I've even posted on here. I lurk other chans, so I wouldn't know anything about the subcultures here.
Well anyways, this has been a very informational thread. I was expecting something else from all the anti-4chan rhetoric where I lurk, but it was surprisingly civilized.
>>72092436
You're a shill and quite blatantly so. Pretty easy to see coming to the thread so late.
First you set up negative bias to start
Then begged to "informed", all the while knowing the talking points people would respond with
To which you had responses prepared to further push the "discussion" towards your viewpoint
The language you use screams "here are mannerisms these people use, make sure to interject your normal writing with them, if called out claim you dont visit often"
Wouldn't be surprised if you're same fagging with another id just to set yourself up further.
>>72088071
Trade tariffs
self funded
entertaining
one of the most successful Americans
wont stop even when hes attacked for 10 months
>>72092040
That's all good and fine but it doesn't stop Mexico from being Spains bitch since it was conquered.
And yes there was literal rapings going on, just not Holocaust inflated. Most of the raping was figurative.
America got tired of being Britains bitch. Why can't Mexico to Spain?
>>72092699
We have fun on /pol/ but Trump is serious business. He should be president.
Pic related is what you see
I just came here to save the op picture and tell you to get your tools ready to start building my wall.
>>72092436
>>72092699
>I lurk other chans
Which ones? I heard Krautchan, but what else? Or do you prefer to keep /pol/ ignorant?
>>72092760
>To which you had responses prepared to further push the "discussion" towards your viewpoint
What exactly is my viewpoint I pushed others into? I'm a rather skeptical person to begin with, so I started with what I've heard from the news to see what pol thought about it. They did a good job convincing me of the contrary.
>"here are mannerisms these people use, make sure to interject your normal writing with them, if called out claim you dont visit often"
I don't really understand what you even mean here.
>Wouldn't be surprised if you're same fagging with another id just to set yourself up further.
Paranoid much?
>>72091776
Spain is a pretty nice place as long as they leave other countries alone.
>>72089803
You keep using "immigrant." This is a dishonest red herring. We have a problem with illegal immigration. Aka ones suppressing wages, using anchor babies to reap social services, etc
>>72093029
Just krautchan actually, can't stand most image-boards. They don't have a cozy feel to them.
>America got tired of being Britains bitch. Why can't Mexico to Spain?
Colonial mentality.
>>72089177
Enh, the economist (I think) found that the voters were pretty normal - plenty educated, and well off, along with the poorer bunch. Ie a pretty evenly distributed bunch of people.
>>72093172
Just remember that Mexico has a southern border wall
>>72088879
Everyone I know in this muslim shithole is with you.
Trump will be an international icon, I want Trump for England too, I want to see the Birth of the republic of England, I want to see all Non-English burned from our lands.
I want the mud to be washed away.
>>72093139
I think legal immigration is also a problem. And it's very discriminatory against Europeans; for example most H1b visas go to Asians which leads to a braindrain in their countries and cheap skilled labour here, which brings down wages as well. No one is talking about this, or how Indian and Chinese immigration has surprised all other.
>>72088071
>He has lied about hiring illegals
Contractors hired them, not Trump.
>has scammed people with his stupid products
BBB gave his businesses that people allege as bad an A+.
>he has sent his jobs to China.
Standard practice.
>How can you trust a person that has consistently cheated people out of their money
There is no evidence of that.
>has gone bankrupt several times before
Corporate bankruptcy is not personal bankruptcy.
>>72093257
It does not. Some one from pol i talk to told me the same. I found this baffling, where did you get this misinformation from?
>>72093265
My british friend lost hope in the UK and moved. He said he would move back if Brexit happens. What are the odds of that happening?
>>72093289
surpassed*
>>72093404
Sorry its a border fence
>>72088071
>bankrupt several times before?
5 companies out of 520+ isn't bad, senpai. Stop drinking the koolaid.
>>72093691
That's the US-Mexico border wall. Southern mexico is all jungle not desert....
>>72093705
What are the sizes of those companies?
>>72093764
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2010/09/22/a-fence-for-the-southern-border-of-mexico/
>>72089275
>>72089177
M E D I A B I A S
i am a race traitor jew cuckold libtard and i love trump because i hate the political establishment in the US and his victory will single handedly destroy the dnc, rnc, and jewish run liberal media stranglehold. he is exactly what america needs now.
>>72093899
The picture you posted is obviously fake and I can't find any other sources to your link. I'll keep looking though, seems interesting if they are, since most of that place is thick jungle. The ground isn't very stable for a long fence.
>>72088071
>but I was wondering why the lot of you support Trumpo
>the lot of you
This word choice is odd for someone who learned American English. You're either an anglo-commonwealth proxyfag or a regular spicfag who can't into English. I'm betting on the former.
>>72094303
My best friend is a Brit, so it rubs off on me, if I do sound anglo-ish. I don't think I do, though?
>>72093487
Well the entire thing is rigged, it won't happen because the ruling elite doesn't want it to happen.
They spent millions of taxpayers money sending propaganda leaflets to every address in the country. Even empty houses.
The propaganda is mind numbing garbage.
I belive that the vote will come 'close' and then scum like david cameroon will say' he is listening to the people' and claim his new policy will be less eurocentric.
The whole thing is scam to gain more votes later on by seeming to 'listen to the public'
This same government spent millions more of taxpayer money on advertisements for their own party. Big bill boards that say 'look at how great we are now !' meanwhile the country is falling down around us.
I feel we need to go left to go right, and get labour back in to energize the few remaining English people into taking action.
People without much interest in politics think that the conservatives will get rid of the immigrants but they are just another ultra left wing party and they have learned that lesson now but it is pretty much too late.
I honestly believe we are fucked.
But Trump is very popular here, so my final hope is that Trump is elected in america and over here it helps people break through the PC bubble and gain votes based purely on the will to get our country back. However, the propaganda here is so overwhelming and constant it will be a real challenge.
I wish you good luck on making America great again.
>>72094459
Hm, interesting, thank you for your input.
>>72094303
I'm a Hoosier and I say the lot of you. Not frequently, since I only use it when expressing displeasure with a group, but I use it.
Just cause it's not used in your area doesn't mean it's not used in American English.
>>72088507
Someone give this man a street.
>>72094588
This. I am also a Hoosier and say it sometimes.
>>72094783
>>72094588
It's not uncommon here either. I live in the midwest as well.
>>72090045
Why vote for a party who treats you like shit and blames all the country's problems on a certain race(Hispanics). I dont blame them for voting dem. I knew a old Vietnam vet who was 1st generation Mexican American who was conservative. He hated everything they said about Hispanics but was voting right because he hated what the country was turning into. He also really hated the term anchor baby. Almost killed a guy for calling him that.
>>72088071
>He has lied about hiring illegals, has scammed people with his stupid products, and he has sent his jobs to China.
[Citation Needed]
>How can you trust a person that has consistently cheated people out of their money and has gone bankrupt several times before?
You could ask the same question about literally every other politician.
>>72088071
I prefer Trump to the other candidates because he's the only one that's particularly pro-gun. Also if he makes good on his plans to pull US troops out of Europe that would be good. Otherwise he's your typical porky.
>>72095468
Sounds like a dirty mexican thug.
Why didn't he go back to mexico if he loves it so much?
