If I work hard and become a productive member of society but still like to take Ecstasy and LSD once a month at raves am I still a degenerate?
>>72082543
yup
>>72082543
Just how many months do you think that lifestyle is going to last, Anon?
>>72082634
only like three months out of the year and I do not always take LSD I usually take molly because I really like to dance and talk to people
I'm a Junior Engineering student with a 3.7 gpa
Sure bro, it's not degenerate.
>>72082732
I promise you will experience a psychotic breakdown in due time.
>>72083196
I did and it what motivated me to start my own business with my friends
>>72082543
Yes. Only because you're not giving enough time for the neurotoxin from mdma to dissipate. Keep doin' what you're doin' though m80. Hitting up any festivals this season?
>>72083196
have you ever done a drug?
>inb4 aspirin
>>72083303
What would be a good time skip between usages then? 2 months? I asked so I can tell people who are regular users and for myself I rarely candy flip though too.
Life in color july 4? You bro?
Seriously, who over 23 goes to clubs
your priorities will change.
>>72083515
Bro they're festivals with 50,000+ people
>>72082732
You poor deluded faggot. I threw raves and promoted. And not "raves" at clubs like you faggots call them warehouses, basements of businesses empty armories(literally can't believe they let me rent out the space) you will burn out like everyone does. Yes it is degenerate and I'm glad as fuck that life is behind me because 90 percent of the people are retarded narcissists.
>>72083196
Horseshit. I used to do real pharmaceutical ecstasy in the 80's, when it would still melt your brain like butter, and I've done LSD well over 200 times.
FACTUALLY, what eventually happens is, they simply stop having the desired effect. I could drop 20 tabs of orange sunshine right now, and it would get me pretty fucked up, but I would not hallucinate, or get any "mind-expanding" effects out of it. LSD has run its course in my brain, and I have no desire to ever do any again.
Same applies to ecstasy. It would make me a little stoned, basically like I'd just smoked a big joint of some potent weed, and that's it. No "waves" or trippy effects at all, no enhanced sexual desire, nothing but dulled senses.
Take it from someone who actually knows what the fuck he is talking about - these are two drugs that eventually resolve themselves. You will stop taking them because you just don't want to take them anymore, if you take enough of them.
yeah because you probably have shit taste in dance music judging from your pic
>>72083569
Not true at all.
>>72083561
Bro festivals like Ultra, tomorrow-land, etc.
>>72083612
I listen to everything from Vivaldi to Porter Robinson
>>72083569
If anything the LSD and Molly made me fully aware about the mind expanding effects. I fully see the world differently now and I'm more grateful for a lot of things.
>>72083381
hahahaha, as if
>>72083569
I rest my case
>>72083569
Fake and gay.
>>72083681
>>72083681
Of course it's fucking true, I fucking lived it, you halfass sack of wine. And today, all I do is smoke weed. I don't even drink. I've been all the way down every drug road you can take, including cocaine and barbituates. The only drug I've never taken is opiates, because I've seen what they do to people. Cocaine just makes me paranoid now, so I don't do it anymore. Acid and MDMA only have the aforementioned effects on me. Phenobarbitol and a few other nasty pills will kill you sooner or later, I had to rehab off those.
But you're just talking out your asshole, asshole.
>>72083457
You got it, 2 months. Look into vitamins on the rollsafe website too if you get the chance. They help immensely. I'm actually hitting up EDC Vegas and Electric Forest in June. LIC is kind of out of the picture at this point, but maybe one day. Also candy flipping is the shit.
Always glad to see another /pol/ festival goer, especially with how many radical leftists the scene attracts.
>>72082543
Being a festie/raver is the lowest form of degenerecy. I honestly consider you below niggers and kikes.
Consider self harm and maybe kill your faggot scene with you.
>>72082543
yes, but there's worse
>>72082732
>i dont usually take LSD
>i just do meth
I seriously hope you fucking die
>>72083833
>I listen to everything from Vivaldi to Porter Robinson
so garbage edm for people who want to act like they dont listen to edm?
>>72083845
you're a smug coward. fuck off
>>72084051
Where did you get Meth from? Op hasn't said anything about it.
>>72082543
Go back to /r/Malrzle John.
>>72083984
Have you ever visited some proper underground rave and not the big room ones?
>>72083958
I really appreciate the website I'll show my friends
Nice to other pol users go too
I was Drunk,High,on Adderal, Acid, and Molly. It was my first time candy flipping and I had a blast and made everyone in the front rows shout "Make America Great Again" which is why I think they won't release the after movie
>>72084240
methylenedioxymethamphetamine MDMA
>OMG it has methamphetamine in it's chemical name. it must be exactly like meth.
>>72084240
Look up what molly actually is you illiterate child. Just because you call it some edgy name doesn't mean it isnt a chemical formed from meth.
>>72084218
Don't talk about Vivaldi like that man
>>72082543
>productive member of society
such a dumb cop out people say
Productive member of society just means producing more unneeded junk feeding into consumerism
>>72084355
no i was talking about porter robinson
vivaldi isnt dance music so is irrelevant to this argument
>>72084317
>>72084336
>looks up mdma on wikipedia once
>>72084336
>formed from meth
so you're telling me i can make ecstasy from meth? cool.
>>72084281
I dont partake is social events to solely to drugs and listen to autistic music >>72084336
You're right, because pure meth is actually safer and less damaging. You people have no understanding of chemistry, gas yourselves newfam
>>72084414
Now that you mention it I saw a Bernie sign there out of all fucking places
>>72084500
what?
>>72084336
Dipshit who knows nothing of basic chemistry alert. H20 and H202 are so closely related to you, may as well drink em both. They're pretty much the same thing, right?
>>72084435
clueless nigger. go shitpost somewhere else.
>>72083569
>I can drop 2mgs of LSD and I wouldnt even hallucinate
Watch out everyone we got a badass over here.
>>72084237
Bite down hard.
>>72084240
Molly is a mix of a bunch of drugs including meth. Stupid faggots are eventually going to give themselves heart failure or something.
>>72082543
if you keep them serotonin levels high and you already been passed the breaking point and managed to understand your priorities in life i don't see what the problem is.
/pol/ druggos/ravers whats your fave edm?
I love my dirty drum and bass
>>72082543
No.
no, and dont listen to pol about drugs. most people here have never done drugs or know much about it.
everyone here should do x, lsd, or whatever and stop being edgy teen faggots
inb4 some edgy teen replies telling me im the edgy teen
>>72084590
nah youre actually right, they arent the same thing
its just that every kiddy who spouts shit like that is chemistry illiterate and literally just looks up their drugs on wikipedia because dude "i know the chemical structure and name, how cool am i" lmao
>>72084585
Go to school m8 you are not even on the right page with your 2nd grade chemical equations. just know you are
>destroying your genes
> your health
> your soul
No one but a fucking oily haired hippy whale would mate with you when you tell them you are a raver.
Your best bet is a quick death.
>>72084635
progressive trance
ALEX H
https://youtu.be/nwbjMooy-ZE?list=PLurY4zfVehdDRj_mspi4zWcThKEE6iEAC
>>72082543
There are worse things that you could do, but yes you are a degenerate.
>>72082543
yep
>>72084635
Shiiiit DnB is waaay up on the list. But I've gotta say melodic dubstep, trance and indie Electronica (whatever Odesza is desu) for me.
>>72084723
No shit they arent the same thing, but half of it is meth and metabolizes through your body JUST LIKE METH.
>>72082543
Candy flipping GOAT
I did it at a rave 2 weeks ago and felt like I was literally going to die for the first 20 minutes, but then went nuts and danced on like 20 girls
>>72082543
You have one body, why abuse and ruin it?
>>72084757
I like how angry people like you get when they see people so happy.
>what is cognitive dissonance
>>72084336
I've read some stupid shit anon, but you're on some next level downs if you think methamphetamines and methylenedioxymethamphetamine are the same thing because they both have the word "meth" in them. They're chemically different, and you're a daft cunt for thinking otherwise.
>>72083196
You are a weak minded cuck
>>72084635
150,000 watts of dubstep
https://youtu.be/4j_oLzN6YWk
>>72084923
“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow!"
-HST
>>72084871
It's metabolized in the liver. Just like alcohol. What's your point?
>>72084923
>ruin it
it's like your body/genetic code is too stupid to heal itself better than it was beforehand.
>>72082543
>But still like to take Ecstasy and LSD once a month
>take Ecstasy and LSD
Yes.
>>72084926
I'm trying to save you m8.
I'm not going to brag about my life but im 24 years old married with two beautiful white children and well off without a day of college because of two things
>I was careful of my social life, and who I allowed into it
2) I was patient
I'm not mad at you for being a degenerate, I'm mad at you for wasting your life to continue acting like a child. You can't pretend to know happiness when you can't into dopamine.
You literally think you're buying happiness as you line Tyrone's pockets?
>>72084635
techno obviously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q19kmU_JHuY
>>72084871
no it doesnt you tard, """"molly"""" (whatever the fuck that means) can be cut with meth but mdma isnt meth, their structures are different, their metabolic pathways are different, they act on receptors in different ways
slightly similar maybe, not the same
>>72085088
The metabolization is what releases the enzymes that get you high. Mdma just releases a couple more enzymes.
>>72085149
Ah, the deep wisdom that only a 24-year-old high school graduate can deliver.
>>72085149
you're buying the experience of a lifetime m8.
These are the things you'll remember when your old as shit and can't move around anymore.
>>72085049
As if Thompson actually lived by that quote
But hey, if he's the example that you want to live by, more power to you.
>>72085149
>Tyrone is synthesizing complex organic compounds.
Nah brah, its just you're talking about shit you have little knowledge of except "muh degeneracy"
>>72085257
I make 130k a year leasing semi trailers, why would I ever step foot into a college?
I don't know anyone I went to school with better off than me other than the rich ones.
>>72085097
Hahahaha good one dude
I'm a degenerate
>5 days ago in bathroom
>shoot heroin
>fall down and crack tooth on granite countertop
that Chinese dentist fixed me up real good though and the cap looks godly.
>caring what /pol/ calls degenerate
ive been here for years and the newfags who spout that degeneracy shit have a child's view of life.
i remember when /pol/ didnt need buzzwords to condemn things that were actually fucked up but people who are new to an ideology always go overboard for a while. some balance out
>>72085239
>i know nothing about biology or chemistry and am going to throw incorrect terminology around to look smart
>>72085307
How did thompson not live by that quote? He did leave in a cloud of smoke (albeit from his .357)
>>72084635
i co-own a company that brings dubstep to philly. Them dirty wubs are my favorite. That being said, DnB will always have a soft place in my heart.
>>72085552
What a fallacy, with no indenity I have no need for ego.
Good luck with emus m8
>>72085397
>money is all that is important in life.
Seems like the jew got you good son.
>>72083196
I promise that you likely won't and this poster is full of shit.
>>72083932
>But you're just talking out your asshole, asshole.
Pretty sure thats what you are doing too, anecdotal evidence and all
>>72085049
>quoting someone who blew their own brains out
I had my first significant acid trip last week on Bicycle day.
I'm disappointed because i had fun, but didnt learn anything or move past a blockage that I sensed in my mind.
Anyone ever had a fun but frustratingly fruitless trip before?
>>72085662
>be on a far right board
>not be actively involved in capitalism
I can book a plane to anywhere in the world right now and do whatever I want because my wife can stay at home and never work a day in her life. Its not about money. It's about freedom, and ensuring the survival of my race.
>>72084635
Hard techno. Anything else is for normies.
>>72082543
Dont be a cheeky bastard. Put that energy to good use and lynch a nigger
>>72085850
>It's about freedom
Thats a big reason why people take psychedelics.
>>72084414
Truth
>productive member of society=productive slave
>>72085996
ever lynch a nigger while on acid?
woah
>>72086000
If you buy into the hippie movement's idea of LSD you should be promptly gassed.
LSD has medical benefits to the mentally ill. It has no benefit to a regular human being other than " DUDE VISULS LUL"
>>72085850
Yeah but you probably stay at home doing the same shit every day.
What was the last exotic country you traveled to? Why not drop some acid if you're so free? Are you as cucked as to think psychedelic drugs are on par with dopamine releasing drugs of addiction?
>>72086133
you're still here?
>>72085636
nice strawman
wouldnt expect much else from a dumb burger who thinks he knows anything after looking it up on wikipedia once
>>72086133
>LSD has medical benefits to the mentally ill.
Kek, again, you were the one saying tyrone is selling acid right?
>>72086082
I guess you have a point.. I'll note it down actually
Cheers brother
>>72086166
I recently came back from Tahiti 3 weeks ago with my family, before that I went to Shanghai by myself for the Dota 2 majors.
Why possible benefit could I get from any drug if I am not ill?
>>72086133
Psychedelics are powerful tools of introspection.
Providing yourself with altered perceptions can be useful or entertaining.
>>72086279
Look it up you uneducated retard.
LSD was only made illegal because of the hippies hijacked it and told you you would find the meaning of life as long you pay 5 bucks.
>>72086320
>Dota 2 majors
Lmfao... Videogames are infinetly more degenerate than psychedelics.
And this dude answered why you should take acid.>>72086324
>>72086320
but, you are ill....if you don't think you're ill
see?
go smoke something ASAP
>>72086324
>Psychedelics are powerful tools of introspection.
So is meditation, its the most powerful one too.
But hey, I guess if you need crutches then can't fault you for using them, don't say you are truly walking though
>>72086441
I have stake in a production company who works closely with Valve. I have grown an affinity for the game after watching them broadcast it.
>>72086386
You're lack of knowlege is pretty cute. Lsd was thought to mimic schizophrenia. Meaning they could take it and attempt to research the mindset of schizophrenia. It was also given to schizos in those cooky medical tests in the 50's.
It didnt actually help them or anything.
>>72085149
Literally a meme argument
>muh married at 24 with kids
Why didn't you take things slower? You'll regret not living your life more before settling down.
Only /pol/tards care about "degeneracy".
It's your own complete opinion that having your life right now is good. I for one would fucking hate being married with kids already. Sounds like fucking hell. Have fun dying old and unfulfilled. When youre taking your last breath, the last thing you'll think about is if you were degenerate or not.
>>72082543
Yes you are. It has a compounding effect. Eventually, you will burnout and become a dreg on society.
>>72086583
Why walk somewhere when you can drive there?
>>72086607
Baba Ram Dass? Huxley? Tim Leary?
You must have never read a page of any of their work.
Reminder that lsd was created by the Feds and the whole hippy counter culture was bullshit psychological engineering to create the degenerate hippies who are arguably the axis point our current sjw problem.
Reminder that Jim morrisons dad was the admiral involved in the gulf of Tonkin incident
Reminder that like ALL those counterculture hippy bands have family connections to the intelligence community
Reminder that the greatfuldead band members chill at the bohemian grove with their cia bros. (Google bob wore bohemian grove)
I'm pretty sure the whole mushroom thing was also popularized by some JP Morgan Vice President.
Anyways, the mainstream story about the hippy counterculture and mk ultra is bullshit. If you have the autism for it, then research jam Irvin's discoveries about the fake counterculture of the 60s and read this book called "the laurel canyon conspiracy" the dude who wrote it, David McGowan died a few months ago, he was young too...
>>72086583
you could walk 50 miles to work (meditation faggotry), or you could drive there at 155 mph (drugs).
>>72086727
All of them were cia assets senpai
>>72086760
I just seriously hope you die before you infect anyone else with this 50 year old communist bullshit.
If LSD is enlightening why did it make the next generation so god damn stupid?
>>72086727
Big Huxley fan actually. You're calling him a degenerate hippie or what?
>>72084635
Skrillex
>>72086663
Kek
Someone loves their mummy
>>72082543
Once a month is probably a little too often. As long as the stuff you're getting is good, not cut with other stuff or called something its not. Buy your shit from the deep web, some sites have some really pure stuff.
..
>>72084635
techno for days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAMFzwnmKXc
>>72086133
says the person who has never done LSD in their life lol
you're obviously insecure about some shit or else you wouldn't be putting up your walls this hard.
if you actually do make that kind of money, I would recommend taking a world cruise, taking some acid and the woman you love, and having absolute soul sex at night, and seeing the world and creating life lasting memories of laughter and joy every waking moment of the day.
The point of life is to enjoy it, not climb the leader boards, and by this I'm not talking about money, I'm talking about posting about anything on the internet or social media post begging for anyone to give a shit about what you have to say, which you have posted because you seek to boast upon how high your mental capacity is and how absolutely correct all of your opinions are, which is why you talk about how much greater your life apparently is than everyone else's every time you lay your fingers on a keyboard
>>72086858
You have obviously never cared to read anything but his books and none of his essays or research into the drug.
Only reason you read him in the first place is because he used it, not because of his intelligence or contribution to the topic.
>>72082543
>going to raves
>taking drugs
>am I a degenerate?
You're a degenerate of the highest order and will not survive the day of the rope
>>72082543
Both of these drugs cause brain damage. x is fun but how do you not feel the damage being done?
>>72086844
because of reality television and buzzfeed.com
>>72086752
The whole hippie thing was to derail what could have been if all those same kids became politically vocal, financually independent, armed libertarians. That generation was channeled into being compliant organization men in grey flannel suits, worthless hedonist addicts or easily distracted flower children whose political activism could be centrally controlled and limited.
>>72087026
Sounds like you're projecting your self hatrex because you're a poorfag with no motivation and no goals.
You literally even project what you think life is. Consider self harm.
>>72086696
>>72086760
Is this why Americans are so fat?
>>72087040
Tbh senpai Ive read point-counter point, brave new world, perennial philosophy, Island, Eyeless in Gaza, doors of perception, and Heaven and Hell.
You're going to praise huxley now? A man who shot up lsd while he died?
You're some sort of strange.
>>72082732
In the real world you won't be able to have both.
Once you get a job in the field it will have to become your priority and showing up to work hungover after a weekend of doing hard drugs isn't going to be doable or acceptable.
It's great that you're doing adequately in college but that is definitely not a proper way to gauge how you'll do afterward. In college it doesn't really matter if you're asleep in lectures or get a bad grade on a paper but when you're employed by someone paying you $17/hour they're going to expect you to devote yourself to the job and mistakes won't be tolerated when your coworkers and the company depends on your product.
When you move up the ladder and have a bit of seniority you'll have a bit more freedom to work in your leisure activities but when you first start working you'll be in a probationary stance and they'll have no regrets about firing an inexperienced new hire who cares more about having fun and doing drugs than putting in enough effort to the job.
>>72087099
This nigga gets it
>>72086974
nice meme techno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAtbBheXyh0
>>72082543
Chemical experimentation is fine. You learn, your body recovers. Hardly worth the debate.
>>72087026
you percieve him as bragging because the things he does have inherent social value, monetary and personal worth to him. he is simply stating facts.
kind of like how if a woman who weighs a hundred pounds says she lost weight to a normal person, it's simply a statement, but to a 200 pounds woman, it's "bragging."
your mentality inherently betrays your self perception as inferior.
statements of facts are not bragging. drugs are almost completely negative in all aspects.
>>72082543
>am I still a degenerate?
why do you care?
I think feeling closer to the universe than normies EVER can is worth it.
>>72087309
It's not "experimenting" when you plan to devote the rest of your life to doing drugs.
OP isn't asking "I want to go to a concert in 2020 and I'll want to do LSD, will that be okay?" He's asking "I want to do drugs for the rest of my life, but I also want to have a good job and be a normal person, is that possible?" And the answer isn't necessarily "no" but it's so close that it might as well be.
>>72086974
Oh god roof top parties in the early 2000's. I'm an old fag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0NPHKyLgec
>>72086584
Do you watch Steven Universe also?
>>72087099
this is a pretty cogent statement. the right has been more anti-establishment since the late 30's, at which point socialist agitation became the defacto mode of political and media expression, channeled through music, consumption patterns, and fighting the church,small business, and community, instead of fighting socialism, international corporations, etc.
hippies are simply cannon fodder socialists use to destroy innocent small communities
>>72087456
>take Ecstasy and LSD once a month at raves
>plan to devote the rest of your life to doing drugs
>>72084629
Molly is pure MDMA
Ectasy is a disgusting cocktail of meth, a miniscule amount of MDMA and a shitload of other harmful chemicals.
>>72087040
>>72087209
Im sorry friend I thought you said I probably havent read his books
What essays does he have about LSD? I am not aware of them so I would love to know. Doors of Perception is of course about mescaline but you brought him up to try to claim these drugs were used to treat the mentally ill. Of which ive never heard Huxley saying that, only their use for introspection which you seem to believe is degenerate.
>>72087392
his endgame though was to paint himself as superior because of his accomplishments though.
debatable drugs gave me a purpose in life, share create and seek the truth. While obviously drugs can and do do terrible things to your mental, physical and emotional state, if you use them sparingly in it a non issue. I do acid 2-3 times a summer and not again for 8 months, these have always been deep and introspective experiences where I come out as a better and more mentally level headed person than I was before, s o i d k
>took acid once
>had the scariest experience ever, felt like I was dying, couldn't hear what my friends were saying, I sat there for hours nearly frozen in fear
>gave me panic attacks for months
>tell myself to never touch drugs again
A little over a year goes by
>say fuck it and smoke weed for the first time in 2 years
>gave me the weirdest feeling ever
>have this intense uncomfortable feeling (almost like a numb feeling all over my body) slowly building up, mostly in my lungs, but I felt it everywhere.
>start panicking
>Think the shit is laced
>look around, friends are laughing and having fun
>ask them if they put anything in the weed
>"Nope"
>freak out more because I think I'm going insane
>layed in bed for a few hours and it went away
>wake up the next morning
>extremely depersonalized and dissociated
>been that way ever since
Fuck drugs.
>>72087818
Ecstasy is molly usually cut with caffeine, MDE, MDA, or various other cough suppressants. It's never made with meth/heroine/anything else.
>>72087913
if he makes a list of his accomplishments and it makes you feel inferior, or simply the existence of the accomplishments alone is enough to be an implication he is superior...
maybe he IS superior to you?
some people are taller, smarter, nicer, and have prettier wives. some people cure diseases.
if you demand the right to be SEEN and PERCIEVED by everyone else as equal, but you refuse to DO things that LET them see you as such becuase you're "special" and play by your "own rules," what youre asking for isn't equality, you're asking to be superior.
fuck off.
>>72088041
Samefagging.
Pure Molly is in powder form because it can't bind to itself and therefore is ALWAYS a powder if it's pure Molly. It's usually cut with said ingredients above because they act as a binding agent and provide other effects.
>>72088099
I guarantee I am better at every single sport than you
>>72088041
Ecstasy is commonly adulterated with meth...
Ecstasydata.org
>>72088232
Ecstasy is a methamphetamine.
>>72087392
and yet they've taught me more about the nature of the world/people/etc. than anything else.
For example: The natural human societal cycle of every empire that has ever existed or ever will exist.
1) society starts with poetic ideals based on metaphor, often featuring trope figures easily digestible and understandable
2) the metaphors that define this age lead to actual civic discourse
3) Society yields civic discourse to "full fledged reason", in which reason and "right" are exposed to the points of their own fragility, leading to collapse. Man falls into thinking only of his own private interests and reaches the pinnacle of delicacy, or pride, where they lash out at the slightest displeasure.
or an easier way to think of it:
Man first deals with necessity, then utility, then comfort, then pleasure, becomes purely self-serving in his luxury, goes mad and tears it all back down
>>72088214
you're asking to be seen and percieved as equal, but without any objective standard. you want to be superior because you believe rules apply to others but not yourself.
get fucked. this is why he was shitting on you, and I guarantee anyone who perceives your attitude hates you to their core
>>72088309
Mdma + ma is a common xtc cocktail is what im saying. You said it was not.
>>72088325
they didn't teach you anything and you don't understand anything
you constructed some stupid fucking model of the world which sounds smart to you. congrats, you're an idiot who learned big words.
does your model of the world account for finance? wait, what about bureaucratic models? wait, what about patterns of warfare. wait, what about genetics?
wait, do you actually know anything? oh, no, your model is fucking stupid and arbitrary because it makes you feel smart.
go fucking shitpost on retarded steven molyneux videos. you won't convince anyome remotely intelligent.
>>72088309
its a substituted amphetamine, not a methamphetamine
methamphetamine isnt a class of drugs
>>72088041
pillreports.com
I've pressed Ectasy for friends before and know for a fact Meth is a very common adulterant
>>72088334
When have I ever asked to be perceived as equal? You keep pushing this and building a whole argument around it.
I'm not a fucking SJW dude I know that you work for what you get, I couldn't any more hate this participation trophy culture we live nowadays where hurt feelings become lawsuits.
The point is that the true truth is unconditional personal freedom from all man made binds whether it be monetary or psychologically.
I understand how you feel, mainstream Twitter drug culture where the goal of life is to get as absolutely fucked up as you possibly can is cancer, trust me I see it everyday of my life, but using LSD a few times to explore and see if there is anything out there, is harmless.
>>72088709
It's a "substituted methamphetamine" because it has the N-methyl. I would hazard that this moiety is what makes MDMA a bit neurotoxic.
>>72088536
>does your model of the world account for finance? wait, what about bureaucratic models? wait, what about patterns of warfare. wait, what about genetics?
I am sorry that you are unable to think critically, anon.
I could spell it out for you, but it's more fun to see you mad about things you don't understand.
>>72082543
You're a degenerate once a month.
That's better than most.
Willpower has it's limits, and if you top it up by going to a rave once a month and getting loose, it's better than some fat pig who eats too much every day.
Also;
>34 years old
Trust me man, you will burn out by your late 20's if you're really doing it once a month.
Now I can handle like 2-3 weekends on drugs a YEAR, at best. And even then I usually want to go home and sleep after the first night.
>>72088931
maybe it's harmless for some people. maybe it's greatly damaging for most people.
>the true truth is unconditional personal freedom from man made binds
see this kind of shit is making me think you're fucked in the head. it's not even a coherent and complete statement unless I inherently agree with your (assumed and unwritten) premise that freedom is an unadulterated good.
also written and assumed is that truth (a statement of fact conforming to reality) is freedom. but freedom has nothing to do with reality. freedom is a state of humanity. a state of humanity is not a statement of fact.
your thinking is muddled, and you'd fail out of any class I ever took. I don't think the drugs you're taking are as benign as you think. you can't even construct proper statements.
>>72087220
Most people I know pretty much just naturally stop with drugs once they get a real career. It's just too hard to juggle a normal adult life and getting fucked up on a regular basis.
>>72083196
t. guy who can't handle his drugs
>>72089238
Its a matter of time. X and LCD cause brain damage
>>72086583
Youre right, I do need to put more effort into meditation and self discipline
>>72089178
I'm stoned and rambling on 4chan at 3 in the morning calm down I just finished a chem lab.
Let me ask you a question, what (if any) drugs have you taken in your lifetime?
>>72086760
I would rather crash going to work in my Blazer going 35 than going to work on a jixxer going 155.
>>72088931
the true truth is that truth itself is a fallacy.
truth, like all permutations of right and wrong, is inherently relative to the perspective of the observer.
there can be self truths, there can even be cognitively shared truths, but a universal truth is not possible because your perspective as the observer will always be different than anothers, even if slightly. the universe just doesn't function in a black and white manner. it's an ever changing entity, everything unique yet the same.
You are simply a functioning degenerate. No harm in the short term but your health and morality or the health and morality of your community will likely suffer in the long term.
>>72083932
Good job not taking opiates. That a slippery slope. I used to do MDMA, mushrooms and all sorts until I started doing heroin. Then it just slipped and slipped into doing it more and more often. It's not even that fucking good, but it's super addictive. I've got three months clean now though.
>>72087939
Sorry drugs arent for you
>>72089796
that's precisely my point. you deliberately impair your thought process recreationally, which brings thoughts that are disordered (a schizoid trait) into your head that don't LEAVE your head because the thoughts are associated with moods and impressions, and those delusions persist beyond your impaired state because of those emotional associations.
your state of impairment, then, ends up persisting beyond the point of intoxication.
I've taken quite a few when I was younger. none of them did anything good, except for pot, at first, which made me happy, before making me paranoid.
I'm a psychiatrist, by the way. I make a living by figuring out what chemicals do to brain states. I kind of know what I'm talking about
>>72087939
you need to break through your control issues, anon.
>>72090196
Do you drink coffee?
I do whatever drugs I want, because I'm an adult and I have cash.
Fuck the law, police, and government. They're not pharmacologists and have no authority on drugs.
BTW, I'm getting 6 grams of a-PHP on Wednesday. Wish me luck!
>>72090196
Bro I just did homework for like 6 hours straight blow me.
How are you literally criticizing my thought process right now when you have throughout your posts created your own little picture of my life where I am somehow impaired because of my drug usage?
Oh and psychiatrist sick dude I bet you get tons of pussy
>>72090429
yes. most of us do. it's a thing.
>>72090196
>I'm a psychiatrist
ahh, makes so much more sense now.
we're just not doing the drugs you want us to.
have another ADD to unleash on us yet?
>>72090529
Well it's a drug, so you're a hypocrite
>>72082543
Not listening to anything but trance and drum n bass is degenerate
Pic related. It's me with delta heavy, calyx n teebee, mefjus and enei faggots
>>72090520
you made a great fuss about how drugs didn't impair your ability to think, then proceeded to demonstrate in front of all of us a very poor ability to think, which you then defend is because of... your drug usage
can't cure stupid, I guess. you did this to yourself. I have clients that blame me for their crimes, too.
>>72090546
I don't endorse legal drug usage either, privately. as a practical matter, it's a necessity for felons that our justice system refuses to actually deal with.
>>72082543
Naw your good op here have a swastika i made out of mdma
>>72084635
Dirty neurofunk grind dnb m8
Pic related. It me and Noisia
I drink and snort cocaine nearly every night, I may be a degenerate, but I also vote conservative.
You've got to live while you're young, so you don't regret it after you're older.
>>72084635
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8PIuwIV-Ao
who /bleep/ here?
>>72082603
thread should have ended here but oddly there are over 180 replies.
>>72090741
>it's a necessity for felons that our justice system refuses to actually deal with.
atleast you're aware psychiatry is just glorified snake oil sales to "treat" human behavior
>>72090741
The thoughts are clear, the grammar not so much.
you're a pretty shit psychologist.
Why do psychologist's always dive off onto some tangent because they always think their is some other big ulterior force or motive, humans are driven by simple interests, you are basically just a boring tinfoil hatter.
>>72082543
>LSD
if true enlightenment you are seeking , use ayahuasca
>>72086386
LSD was made illegal because conservacucks didn't like that blacks and hippies voted against them, so they tried to imprison them by taking away their drugs.
Why would you take MDMA once a month?
The magic wears off pretty quick when your body cant keep up with the serotonin production.
And more importantly, why take LSD - furthermore, why take LSD on a RAVE?
You are not degenerate for using drugs,
you are degenerate for using them as a degenerate.
>>72086583
Taking psychedelics often leads people to meditation, and I don't see any reason why you can't do both.
>>72091138
snake oil implies that we are the primary beneficiary of the existence of psychiatry, as if we are scam artists.
we exist as someone to blame for when federal policy doesn't have the intended effect. e.g. schools can't teach niggers to read, low iq people have low iq children, slow genetic damage accumulates and causes strange behavior and the government is incompetent and can't address the issues. they created US so that they could blame US for the bad fallout of their decisions.
the #1 beneficiary of the existence of the field is the democratic party. I guarantee you.
>>72091269
>Pablo amaringo
>ma_nigga.jpg
Whats the aya situation like in ecuador? Lots of people smoke deem as well?
>>72091208
>psychology is psychiatry
oh boy here we go
>the thoughts are clear
wew lad
>>72091356
>why take lsd at a rave?
>never candyflipping
>shiggy diggy
>>72091505
Obviously meant psychiatrist but keep copping out of my arguments
>>72091442
>the #1 beneficiary of the existence of the field is the democratic party.
close, I'd say pharma first, then dems.
though the two often overlap
>>72087939
Damn. You're probably literally insane.
>>72089703
>>72089703
No respected researcher has ever claimed that LSD does brain damage. You can't just make shit up when it suits your narrative.
>>72091657
his argument
>true truth is freedom
this is a VERBATIM quote. it basically amounts to good feeling=freedom=truth
that's not very clear, or coherent, or sober.
associated similar statements I've seen in this topic
>it makes me feel closer to the UNIVERSE, I'm IN TOUCH
wow, profound. I'd LOVE to see that elaborated on in clear language. I think I'll be left waiting though
>>72091679
the dems create demand for the pharma though. sane societies have no use for pharma and have generally outlawed it. it's straight up illegal for the most part in east asia. even CH which produces half of what's sold in america, more or less puts severe limits on what cna be sold in its own borders.
industry has difficulty inflicting upon its population what the politicians do not have an express need for.
>>72090529
Most of us do other drugs, too.
>>72082543
Probably want to cut back to a couple of times a year. No good for head mate.
>>72082543
Nah man, partying is fun bruh
>>72084715
You're pretty edgy, achmed
>>72092325
They aren't red pill in the sense of /pol/ in regards to money // race etc., but they do "red - pill" you in the sense of realizing what's important in life and how vast the universe is and how transcendent life itself is. It also makes you realize that everything is connected in one way or another, especially throughout humanity
I NEVER HAD ANY FRIENDS TO DO DRUGS WITH
FUCK
>>72093274
>everything is connected
what does this even mean? can you explain what is connected? can you explain HOW and WHY it is connected, and the mechanism?
no, you can't, because you made a statement of SENTIMENT, not of fact. the drugs fried your brain, and now you are beginning to confuse your feelings with the way the world actually operates. which makes you less mentally capable. which makes you stupid.
you are stupid.
drugs gave you a fuzzy feeling that validated your concept of self. therefore you like them. because they made you feel good.
wow, so redpill.
>>72082543
no, but control shit, anything more then once a month is negative
>>72093911
ah, the old liberal holdout
>IIIIII can do it without being bad
>IIIIII'm a special black power person, I'm not the mean one
>IIIIIII'm a special feminist
>IIIIII'm not like those other gay guys
sure bud. well, now that I know even the "right" is infested with absolute idiots, I can leave this shit heap in peace
>>72082543
yup you liberal cuck.
>>72094193
da fuq you trippin balls fag. if you overuse any substance it will fuck your brain and body up. you seem like a good example, maybe you should see your gp
