>correlation does not equal causation
I fucking hate it when people say this.
hate it all you like, it's still true
>>72062263
Why? It's usually the case.
>>72062294
fpbp
>>72062294
Not necessarily. It implies there's only one cause to things when there could be multiple causes. The universe is a chaotic system after all. It's best to see all the possible causes for something to truly know how to avoid it.
>>72062360
first post worst post, you pleblord
>>72062263
That's because you're an idiot
>>72062425
That's the whole fucking point of OP's quote. Thanks for restating it.
>>72062425
No. That's you implying
>>72062263
I hate that the slippery slope is considered a fallacy while, by anyone with even the most casual observation, can tell it very much is not, when paired with common sense of course(catche 22).
>>72062263
So what? It's true.
>>72062263
Probably because you're an uneducated retard who doesn't realize how basic that concept is and how frequently it applies to shitty arguments.
>cite increasing rates of rape being committed in Europe by foreign-born suspects
>suggest that this might be caused by the influx of Islamic migrants
>"DUDE CORRELATION != CAUSATION LMAO"
>>72062740
Was just thinking about this today Slippery Slope is really the only fallacy that's not actually a fallacy.
>>72062907
OP here, exactly what I'm talking about
>>72062263
It is literally true though bruhh. It is often forgotten by those in the media and sperglords like you alike.
There are three necessary conditions to show a causal relationship:
1) establishing association
2) establishing temporal ordering
3) ruling out alternative explanations
If you had taken research methods 100 in college you would know dis.
a
>>72062907
>Only one solution: randomized, controlled raping studies
Why isn't anyone funding this?
>>72062263
It true though
You have to go deeper, always go deeper
>>72062907
>>72063206
How stupid are both of you to not see that they are incorrectly applying that concept?
>>72063237
>implying most people on /pol/ have anything more than a high school education
>implying a huge amount of these people aren't seriously just high schoolers
There's a reason why /pol/ has a reputation for being ignorant and stupid, it's because they are.
>>72063487
Explain how you fucking moron
>Population of non-Europeans increases
>Rapes increase
>Rapes by non-Europeans make up increasingly high % of the total rapes
>DURR CORRELATION DOESN'T EQUAL CAUSATION YOU FUCKING BIGOT
>>72062263
> correlation does not equal causation
is true
> correlation does not imply causation
is false and stupid. It doesn't prove it obviously, but a statistically significant trend clearly implies you should take a closer look at it.
>>72063237
No, it isn't true.
How do we know gravity is the cause of the earth going around the sun? Doesn't fit your points there.
Causation and correlation are very often one and the same. Causation is really a claim about your model of reality.
t.PhD
>>72063869
No fuckstain, I'm saying that the person they're talking about was applying the concept incorrectly.
>>72063869
learn to regression to the mean stupid aussieposter
>>72064003
Leave it to Nigel
>>72062263
http://tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
Educate yourself a bit
>>72062425
As we've noticed the decline of pirates in the world, but the increase of global temperature. Therefore, the decline of pirates caused global warming.
>>72064003
> How do we know gravity is the cause of the earth going around the sun?
Occam's Razor
>>72062425
Ice cream sales increase in the summer and so does murder, therefore ice cream causes people to murder eachother
>>72062263
If there's actual evidence behind a correlation, then yes the statement is true. Only if there's evidence though that if X happens then Y will happen too.
>>72064280
Piracy became much more difficult with the rise of oil based Navies rather than wind powered, which obviously produce CO2, so that's actually a plausible causation.
>>72064003
> dat British Ph.D.
There is a reason the rest of the world prefers US Ph.Ds Nigel.
Correlation does not NECESSARILY equal causation
>>72064479
We need more pirates to stop this global warming! Support piracy for the climate!
>>72064375
Sugar has been shown to increase anger and hyperactiveness.
>>72062907
But this question is easily settled by stats re who is doing the raping, if the muslim immigrants are doing the raping then without their presence the raping would not have happened
>>72064495
> American university
> Lecturers who speak clear English
Pick one
>>72063583
>le smug provax I fucking love science reddit ironic college educated memer
You need to be shot against a wall
>>72063993
There's a strong correlation between ice cream sales and drownings.
It doesn't even imply shit.
This is a great reminder that this place is just memes and people here can be interested in something cool while still being retarded as fuck.
>>72064634
This would likely stymie international trade and industrial growth, and therefore fewer emissions. The principle works again
>>72064741
Fat people eat ice cream and fat people can't swim well.
It's a pseudo-intellectual mantra
>>72063993
The word you are lookking for is 'suggests' not 'implies'.
OP likely made a fallacious statement and is upset that it got called out.
>>72064741
Yes it does. It implies you have a look at when these increase periods occur, and from that you can make logical conclusions about the season.
>>72062263
Well, correlation does correlate with causation.
>>72064375
If you had said summer causes more violent crimes (Because people are outside more, spikes in crime rates during summer are observed in every single country) some people would still tell you you're wrong and that correlation =/= causation
OP's point was that any relationship that isn't a scientifically proven fact can, and will be questioned and doubted depending on your beliefs and bias's.
>>72064807
Floating is literally the only physical activity fatties are better at
>>72064828
They're synonyms bro
>>72064807
>>72064894
I hate dumbasses like you that take the independent-dependent variable graph from mathematics and try to directly apply that logic to a statistics plot.
I really do. I fucking hate you. I bet you also think that statistics say something about the separate entities and not the population too, you stupid fucks.
>/pol/ wouldn't pass Elementary Statistics 101.
>>72064943
Except floating requires oxygen in their lungs and they can't breathe if they're tired.
>I know several African Americans and they're all good people
>>72064802
>>72064634
Oh my god, /pol/ does it again. By the way, Correlation is probably the most obvious evidence of correlation, although it does not automatically imply that it's the only factor the world's too big for that. Saying that is deliberating ignoring evidence for the sake of serving your agenda.
>>72062263
>correlation does not equal causation
So when DOES it equal causation? When you feel like it does?
>>72065024
>bouancy is just about oxygen
>>72064998
Get rekt loser. Your examples were shit. Hit me with another one faggot I can correlate and causate all day.
>>72064721
Don't want to be called stupid? Don't be fucking stupid.
>>72065103
It never does in statistics or science.
>>72062263
>I am allergic to basic logic.
>>72064998
> Whole argument is about fighting logical fallacies
> People who right generic college courses agree with me, so I'm right
>>72062910
And no true scotsman
>>72064998
Explain how he's wrong
>There's a strong correlation between ice cream sales and drownings.
>It doesn't even imply shit.
More people eat ice cream during summer and more people go swimmer in summer
>Yes it does. It implies you have a look at when these increase periods occur, and from that you can make logical conclusions about the season.
Therefore more people drown in summer
>>72065103
Can you explain to me why you don't know the answer to this question? You really aren't old enough to post here or you failed high school stats. Either way, get the fuck out.
>>72062294
First post FUCKING BEST FUCKING POST MOTHERFUVKING NIGGERFUVKERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#¤%¤"/#">("/(" #R¤ hb>/yh "yh >>nujnuj>h b
>>72065202
>he doesn't know what confounding errors are
>>72065178
>the subject is literally taught this by professionals
>it must be wrong!
It's only a fallacy of authority if and only if the authority isn't an expert ON THAT SUBJECT.
Jesus, /pol/ is filled with niggers today.
>>72062907
Either
a) rape causes immigration.
b) immigration causes rape.
c) An unknown factor is causing both to rise.
A little background knowledge and Occam's razor is all it takes to find the answer. Also, correlation does NOT imply coincedence.
>>72062263
It's true though, you need more evidence than something occurring simultaneously
Homesexuality is rising, and yet world population is rising. Is homosexuality the cause of rising world population? Or vice versa?
>>72065103
When you've either controlled for all exogeneous variables (hard outside of a lab) or completely randomized them so you can marginalize out (easier)
>>72065147
do you realize science is entirely based on writing down correlations between things
>>72065242
>I don't know the answer so I'll just pretend like I do and not give an answer.
>>72064998
Daily reminder that school was designed by humans on the basis of a redesigned system and is not built for intelligence. but to prepare for the scientific community.
>be cuck
>can't correlate and causate at will
>>72065369
>Occam's razor
Do you also realize Occam's Razor is not an actual scientific law?
There are plenty of situations where the simplest theory is not the correct one.
>>72065313
>More people swim during summer
>Therefore, more people drown in summer
>Lol dude, confounding error, the answer is clearly deeper than that. Go back to High School you idiot
Go fuck yourself you pseudo-intellectual cunt
>>72065397
You need further evidence and you need to rule out other causes, how the fuck do you not know this?
>>72065392
>do you realize science is entirely based on writing down correlations between things
You do realize it never proves causation, right? Hence why they call them, "Theories," and readily replace them as soon as a new one comes along.
Right?
Right???
>>72065313
> It's only a fallacy of authority if and only if the authority isn't an expert ON THAT SUBJECT.
Hahahaha. And you really think you're the logical one
>>72062740
This so much. Slippery slopes are a scientific fact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
>>72065476
And I'm willing to bet you're going to show me a graph on that correlation-causation relationship, right?
top kek
All you need to do now is prove it. Protip: you can't.
>If it's wrong here it must be right here!
Very scientific numbnuts.
>>72065497
Then... This is the "Migrant Rape Theory". Interesting. I like it.
>>72065515
You're right. Let's ban colleges, universities, and outlaw teaching. Clearly we don't want to teach people fallacies. :^)
>>72065608
Hmmm. I like that, too.
>>72065497
No, you're plain wrong.
You can prove causation. Any A-B randomized trial will do that.
> Hence why they call them, "Theories," and readily replace them as soon as a new one comes along.
No, you dumb nigger. That is not why theories are called theories.
This is the problem when you try to put 60% of people into university, isn't it?
>>72065492
So you need more correlations and you need to see when things don't correlate?
>>72062263
THIS IS NOW A SPURIOUS CORRELATIONS THREAD
>>72065656
>You can prove causation.
Well, go on then. Prove it.
>>72065200
No true Scotsman is just bizarre. It's like saying >>72065091
>>72064003
The Earth was already free falling around the sun. Nothing caused anything. You would have to do something to cause a change in Earth's freefall around the Sun
>>72065593
Might I ask what your theory for why more people would drown in summer if not for the simple fact that more people swim in summer?
>>72065684
No...
Jesus fuck kid stay in school. Google it because I'm not wasting anymore time explaining it to your dumb ass.
>>72065103
America has high rates of obesity and high rates of gun sales, why is this?
4 possibilities
Causation
>gun sales cause obesity
or
>obesity causes gun sales
Correlation
>a third factor causes both gun sales and obesity
Pure coincidence
>>72064897
>If you had said summer causes more violent crimes (Because people are outside more, spikes in crime rates during summer are observed in every single country) some people would still tell you you're wrong and that correlation =/= causation
Even if you're right about the cause, the correlation is not evidence for it.
>>72065775
>You have to have a theory on every single thing!
lol no
>>72065455
OK, then mr smarty pants, How do you prove causation?
>>72064375
If you take the last order of cake batter you bet you're ass I'm going to murder you straight up
>>72065708
Take a randomized population and make half take a drug at random.
Any effect you see in the half of the population that take the drug must be caused by that drug. Nothing else. That's a consequence of causal probability.
>>72063316
That's what she said.
>>72065789
But you just said that.
>>72065904
Actual evidence. Like the fact that Migrants ARE raping Germans. Like a video. idk check porn-hub.
>>72062263
No idea what the fuck you're on about I have never heard anyone say that, this must just be a geek talk thread ill leave you nerds to it.
>>72064981
No. Logical implication a implies b means if a then definitely b. a suggests b means a is correlated so if a then b is more likely, but we could have a without b
>>72065947
>He attempts to describe a double-blind study.
>Fails to do so.
I can see your level of understanding is clamped down at the 8th grade level (for the US).
Life must be hard being this stupid.
>He still didn't look up confounding errors in statistics.
>>72065904
Randomize over everything or control all exogenous factors.
>>72065904
You have to show that all predictions predicated on a causal model come true.
e.g. If ice cream causes murder, it should be reproducible in a lab, for example.
>>72066055
>He thinks this is possible.
There's a reason statistics has a "confidence level."
>>>/uneducated/
>>72062493
/thread
>>72065202
Well we have two issues here. The first is claiming that variables are correlated when they're not. Various statistical fallacies mean we can claim things are correlated when in fact they are uncorrelated. The book/blog 'Spurious Correlations' humorously studies this type of fallacy.
In statistics, we can only test for correlation, not causation. You might think that "well, if we have two time series and the trend in series A begins before it does in series B we clearly have an implication", but this is a fallacy. They could both be dependent on a third variable for example.
To test for causation, we need empirical studies where we can control the variables. Or we can just assume that correlation implies causation, which is usually the approach taken in social sciences.
>>72064802
>>72064634
>>72064479
>>72064280
>>72062263
>correlation does not equal causation
It is a funny coincidence though...
>>72066118
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>>72066047
That's the point, though; if it's double blinded and randomized, you've ruled out confounding effects.
A strong effect in a double-blinded, randomized trial is hard proof of causation.
Same for a correlation if you control absolutely all exogenous variables, but that's hard outside of a lab.
>>72066116
> what are randomized controlled trials
> what are laboratory experiments
>>72066218
Stronger correlation with skin colour though.
>>72066150
>The first is claiming that variables are correlated when they're not.
Ice cream sales and people going swimming aren't correlated?
>>72066248
>>72066309
No, you ruled out bias and human error, you dumb fuck. Confounding errors are still a thing.
I can't believe you're still trying to argue this when google is literally a webpage away.
>>72066362
> He doesn't realize the entire point of randomization is to set the expectation of confounding errors to zero
How do you even use a computer?
>>72066218
It actually is just a coincidence
White countries with no guns are ALSO not violent.
>>72065650
Universities are fine. The problem is one of the things you're supposed to pick up at university is that people are not necessarily right just because they're in a position of authority. This includes all areas of life, including academia itself. If you think someone's right just because they have a fancy degree, you've missed the point of higher education in the first place.
>>72066462
>He thinks randomization is about removing confounding errors and not getting a perspective on populations.
How the fuck do you even breathe?
Can there be causation without correlation?
>>72066544
>People aren't necessarily right!
>But correlation proves causation.
You can't make this shit up.
>>72065147
yes it does. take a stats class, retard
>>72065689
You can't help someone out of a pool AND protect the Declaration of Independence, can you?
>>72065904
You can't prove anything. Best you can do is be less and less unsure.
>>72066573
> getting a perspective on populations.
What the fuck. Did they teach you that in gender studies?
You don't know the difference between survey sampling and a randomized controlled trial, you chucklefuck.
Take a stats class before you do yourself serious harm.
Actual real correlations:
Increases in ice cream consumption directly correlate with drowning deaths.
Consumption of cheese directly correlates with people who die after being tangled in their bed sheets
>>72066601
You just did
>>72062263
It's correct, technically.
But most people act as if that were a complete refutation of the underlying point. Yes, we fucking know that correlation is only the first step to proving causation, stop doing your premature victory dance and start developing the idea like someone who wants to *contribute* to human knowledge.
>>72066603
>Correlation
>Common Errors Involving Correlation
>Here are three of the most common errors made in interpreting results involving correlation:
>1.) A common error is to assume that correlation implies causality.
>Elementary Statistics 12th Edition; page 505.
>>72066745
I will fucking start quoting this book on you if you don't shut the fuck up retard.
>>72066627
rather those are suicides
Correlation relates two variables so you can make predictions based on that model. This means if you change one variable the other is affected in some way even if it's not directly caused by the change. People who say it are just reddit faggots who cannot accept data points as evidence.
>most of the posts ITT are defending OP's statement
What the fuck is wrong with you retards?
No shit correlation doesn't imply causation, but proving causation is nearly impossible in almost any subject, especially demographics or just general statistics.
Correlation usually implies causation, but not always.
Using it as a stand-alone end-all in an argument is for total faggots.
>>72067014
>>72066999
Experts in statistics 100% disagree with you.
>inb4 I don't care because I want to believe what I want to believe
>>72067097
Then, Mr. "expert on statistics", why don't you explain to us why you disagree with us?
>>72067097
Be more specific because what you just said could mean anything
Appeal to authority is much more fallacious than correlation implies causation
>>72067194
see
>>72066862
I did already. Read the thread if you refuse to get an education.
>>72067207
>He thinks this is an appeal to authority.
Go read that fallacy again, dipshit.
>>72065369
d) they are uncorrelated variables
>>72067207
>Appeal to unqualified authority.
>An informal fallacy that occurs when an arguer cite the testimony of an unqualified authority in support of a conclusion.
>A Concise Introduction to Logic, 11th Edition; Index
Seriously, mouth breather, shut your goddamn hole. Arguing from ignorance is NOT going to work on me.
>>72067097
No one is denying the general principle you moron. But to use it as some sort of thumb rule to deny evidence is equally stupid.
>Look, if you change the inicial angle of a pendulum for angles<10°, the pendulum is isochronous
>omg correlation doesn't mean causatifaggit.
Or more in /pol/
>Zones with a higher flux if immigrants have a positive correlation with crime and economic decline
Etc etc
>number of lollipop sales increased in 2014
>drunk driving deaths increased in 2014
>consumption of lolipops = greater drunk driving deaths
>>72062294
Fuck off, people say this shit in order to dodge a question. "Hey man smoking causes cancer" "Oh ho ho just because a high number of smokers get cancer doesn't mean it causes cancer, correlation does not = causation".
Fuck you, fuck you fuck you, you god damn ignorant basturd, I hope you die in a hole and have terrible preventable things happen to you and when you try to stop it by using help they go to you with your bullshit.
>>72067543
>He wants to rely on something that isn't rigorous in science.
Mexican """"""""intellectuals"""""""""
>>72067620
>I can't read
>>72067709
I read it just fine. You're bullshit just isn't flying.
>>72066055
This guy is right
>>72066116
This, instead, is a gender communication management bachelor
>>72067599
More like
>increased after school programs and more police patrols happen
>crime goes down
>"Le no , correlation doesn't equal causation. Clearly flin sketty monster did it!"
Fuck you
>>72067543
Ignore him, he's arguing against what he wants to rather than what people are writing.
>>72067766
>>72067839
>Actually taken classes on statistics and logic.
>The underage of /pol/ think they can ignore the basics of statistics and logic to make a point.
I've actually cited sources. Where's yours, faggots?
>>72065689
>>72067928
I haven't made any claims that require sources.
>There are people on /pol/, right now, that will argue whites have a higher IQ than blacks but use irriguous methods to prove it.
You are the reason everyone laughs at this board.
>>72067928
>he thinks people are disagreeing with him
>he took stats 101 and now feels king of statistics
>he cannot even formulate a thought that "goes against" his shitty undergrad stats course
>he believes taking logic means you will make better arguments
>he doesn't even understand the underlying fallacy that comes from normies overusing a principle that any dumbfuck actuary gets in his first stats course
>>72067928
Your source goes against you, but you can't read it. To worsen things a bit more, my source is also a real book about statistics, unlike yours
http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8769.html
chapter 2 McStupid
>>72068323
>Using a principle "too much" wears it out and makes it "untrue."
How fucking Mexican are you?
>>72067300
Appeal to authority doesn't have to be the person speaking claiming they are an authority, it's saying someone is right because they are an authority. It can be third person.
>calling someone a dipshit because you rely on textbook definitions of logical principles
You're fundamentally a very retarded person, you couldn't even come up with an argument so you just linked to a previous post you made where you STILL DID NOT POSE AN ARGUMENT.
Kill yourself, basically, you're fucking stupid.
>>72068378
>Your source goes against you!
>Can't explain why.
>Just goes, "READ A WHOLE CHAPTER! MY SOURCE IS BIGGER SO I WIN!"
top kek
/pol/ """"""intellectuals""""""
>>72067995
That makes sense actually, most organic food nuts are probably autistic
>>72068473
I already cited a source saying otherwise. You lost this point as soon as you hit the "post" button.
>>72062294
Such a Grand post for a fucking leaf
>>72068504
>>72068323
>he believes taking logic means you will make better arguments
Maybe that Trump guy isn't wrong about everything after all.
>>72063583
underrated post
>>72064721
an example in question
>>72068479
>posts wall of text from his stats 101 textbook
>gets upset when someone else does the same
wew
>>72068528
Your source did nothing to argue against the point that most causation involves correlation you unbearably arrogant retard.
It's sad because you could likely come off as more intelligent but are limited by your autism.
>>72068217
That's a statistically proven undeniable fact you dumb autist.
>>72068627
>Your source did nothing to argue against the point that most causation involves correlation you unbearably arrogant retard.
You posted this nonsense after my post straight up says otherwise. There were two citations. Hit the "post ID" button, scroll up, and find it.
Or, you know what, I'll hold your hand. I hear the retarded need wranglers.
>>72067412
>Appeal to UNQUALIFIED Authority.
>INFORMAL Fallacy.
>>72068479
Randomized trials means expected distortion is zero. Pages 9 to 18 explains what >>72066055
brilliantly summarize in a sentence. Can you even read?
>>72068638
>Statistics are facts.
>Being this fucking irrigorous.
>>72068807
No, it does NOT. Not even CLOSE.
>>72068771
>UNQUALIFIED
>objective term
I know you get it a lot, but my fuck you are one adorable little sheep.
>>72068888
>"A book literally on statistics is not a qualified authority on statistics,"
>said the high school student.
>>72068888
Untreated autism is no laughing matter.
>>72068975
>"lol these dumb internet racists don't know what they're talking about, I bet they haven't even taken the stats course I took last semester"
>said the the college student
>>72068807
>He think sampling error is eliminated by randomization.
>>72069085
Oh shit. Darn. You just claimed I was educated. Whatever will I do?
>>72066862
what is statistical significance
>>72062263
http://tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
Have a look at these delectable correlations OP, and tell me if it correlations say anything substantive.
>>72069170
>he's in college right now
>he's been there for THREE FULL SEMESTERS
>he's THAT much smarter than you
>>72069085
At this point he's just shitposting to save face on an anonymous imageboard.
Let him be.
>>72068402
>Generalizing a principle to every possible scenario
>Doesn't understand that correlation is a necessary condition for causation
>Thinks correlation doesn't imply causation is a magical truth independent of what variables and information you know
>>72068606
>His logic knowledge are greek syllogisms
Kek
>>72069330
At this point I'm just shitposting because I can tell that this kid is 21 and thinks himself an intellectual God. I almost used "booklearning" in my last post but I don't think he would've been able to tell I was being facetious.
>>72069260
>statistical significance
>conflating p-values and CI
At least google shit before posting.
>>72069324
Graduated. Go to bed. You have highschool in the morning.
>>72069356
>Can with logic and facts?
>Insults!
Get out of my light, emperor.
>>72062263
what it usually means is "statistics dont mean niggers are nigger" or "weed doesnt cause schizophrenia"
>>72062263
A TSUNAMI IS COMING
>>72062425
>being this retarded
Wew lad
>>72069402
You can't shitpost your way out of this mess, anon.
>>72069416
You haven't graduated, and that much is patently obvious to everyone in this thread
>>72067613
>there is a correlation between people who buy ashtrays and yhose who get lung cancer
>therefore ashtrays cause lung cancer
americuckold """education"""
>>72069170
>"Elementary Statistics" not getting it
>receives explanation and sources
>still rants
Fuck off to reddit, Elementary Statistics
>>72069503
>I have lots of friends on /pol/! LOTS! THEY ALL THINK YOU DUM DUM!
Either child or female.
>>72069585
>Can't actually quote from the book because he didn't read it.
>>72069589
>transparently projecting
Grand Autist of the 33rd Degree
>>72069445
Ukraine 1932-33 is when Bolshevik Jews mercilessly butchered the educated, cultured and most devoutly Christian (aka the best of) Ukrainian goyim.
>>72069170
>educated
Haha.
>>72069330
>shitposting to save face
>>72062263
Take an econometrics course and get back to me in a semester
>>72069631
Point estimation and distortion, chapter 7 through 9. watch out, though, it's not suited immediately after "Elementary Statistics"
THREE
FULL
SEMESTERS
>>72069825
>He thinks advanced concepts contradict basic concepts in a rigorous science.
wew lad
>>72066309
I don't disagree with that, but you can still use other methods to get as close to causality as possible: Fixed effects, diff-diff, natural experiments, etc.
>>72069907
>he's used the word rigorous three times in one thread
>>72069975
>he's ignored the concept altogether
This is why no one takes you seriously.
>>72062263
>hating truth
what do you hate about that statement, OP?
>>72069907
I suggest you go for something closer to your level. If you hurry on Amazon you can still get the fucking idiot limited edition with extra long explanations
>>72070074
No one hates the principle. Just people using it im every discussion without understanding the evidence presented.
Literally Sheldon Cooper is running this thread
>>72070273
>He never even read his own source.
>Suggests, "Reading for Dummies."
Now THIS is projecting.
>>72062263
>Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
>>72069445
Interesting. There appears to be no relationship.
>>72070301
Oh? I'm sure you have a plot graph proving a strong correlation supporting your emotional stance on this statement, right?
>>72069998
If you were less rigorous, you could've walked away with a nice set of Quints.
>>72069946
Fugg. Who are you? Fellow phd student?
>>72070511
>Quints.
Subtle. Pretty funny, desu. I laughed.
>>72062263
In the memeoshpere, correlation precedes causation.
>>72062263
I know right? Correlation MUST equal causation. Always. Forever. The world is a 2 variable system.
Fucking moron. Here, see for yourself how dumb you are: http://tylervigen.com/discover
That website allows you to correlate all sorts of things together. Like, did you know that the marriage rate in Kentucky correlates 96% with the US per capita consumption of whole milk? Crazy huh? Or how about this one; Death rates of people by falling down stairs correlates 99% with people's visiting rates of Disney World's Animal Kingdom. You know, death by falling down stairs is terrible, so we really should work to reduce the visits to the Animal Kingdom. The US government really ought to ban it.
Fucking moron. Correlation can be the beginnings of an argument for a causative link, but it CANNOT be the only argument, because as I have demonstrated, a lot of unrelated shit correlates. A causative link must be proven with evidence and reasoning, not just a fucking line graph.
>>72062263
>itt: people who never studied logic
correlation does not equal causation.
it implies.
>>72070880
The phrase is literally, "Correlation does not imply causation."
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
It's a straight up logical fallacy to think otherwise.
>>72071031
oh, sorry then.
i was mistaken. thank u anon
>>72071322
No problem. Have a good one.
>>72062263
Hol up,
So you sayin'?
That the direct decrease in the number of pirates and the increase in global temperature correlation is actually a causation? And we need more pirates and shieeet?
>>72070726
link is golden
>>72062263
I understand completely.
Everyone on Reddit is a scientist; social and otherwise.
>>72070726
Are there variables for the number of Jews and interracial marriages?
>>72071445
And less niggers.
>>72062294
>>72062360
fucking morons. correlation does not NECESSARILY equal causation. If correlation NEVER equaled causation then nothing would be true and stats wouldn't exist. fucking REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>72062425
>chaotic system
to an idiot it is
