It is very clear that you are a shallow, hollow, selfish person who only cares about your next high or self indulgence and you are of no use or benefit to anyone else and as such you will die alone.
Fuck off liberal
>>72009466
>liberal
Wrong again, asshole.
The income tax is slavery.
Public healthcare is slavery.
Functioning civil order is slavery.
Everything is slavery.
Except for literal chattel slavery; that's more of a state's rights issue.
>>72009413
>implying i have to do things for other people
>implying I can't do what i want
Here's a tip top kek for the tip top cuck.
>>72009413
>I need government to make me a moral person
Get the fuck out, Commie.
This triggers lolbertarians and ancaps.
>>72010052
> I have been completely independent from the moment of my birth and never received any assistance from other people or society.
>>72009413
If you think good things can only be achieved by state authority and discrimination then there's no arguing over who really is the shallow, hollow, selfish one.
>>72010186
>I want the government to be the major source of assistance for people in society
Libertarians are not anti-society.
gadsden thread?
>>72010186
>I have been helped before = WE NEED MORE GOV
get out emuposter
libertarianism literally doesn't exist in an established country. it's entirely fantasy.
the US was a libertarian country when it was founded, and you could found a libertarian country today. but you can't turn an established country into a libertarian country.
national governments only get bigger and only gain more control barring catostrophic economic or political conditions. currency crashes and wars. the government is literally always the last thing that weakens. the people go down before it does.
it's fun to play around and say 'i'm a libertarian', but you're actually not. you do not exist.
>>72010543
When the British empire was at its peak the government only controlled around 10% of the economy
>>72010376
There's a term for Libertarians who recognise the importance of society and family: Conservatives.
>>72010254
If you think state is some conspiracy and not a natural product of societal evolution, you're literally autistic and you don't understand the concept of social contract, among many other things.
To explain it to you how it looks to normal people: you're like pedos crying that they aren't allowed to fuck kids.
You're small autistic minority and you'll always be small autistic minority, because overwhelming majority of people don't suffer from autism and can thus feel empathy and connection to community, understanding the need for balance between individual and collective, and understanding that state as an institution is the best way to look after interests of society as whole.
>>72010482
I was responding to a claim about government dictating morality. Unless you've never interacted with wider society in your entire childhood, your formative years were in some way influenced by the government.
>>72010616
So?
What does control of economy have to do with libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism?
>>72010755
All I'm seeing in this pic is an Asian guy wearing a beanie cap shooting a dog.
How dare you disapprove of glorious Asian culture?
>>72010926
Its like the shit my grandpa shares on facebook.
>>72010755
Great argument Montenegro, I can understand someone who lives in a country that isn't even wealthy enough to be socialist-poor wouldn't even understand the inherent problems of a planned economy and removal of risk from both private and public businesses.
>>72010417
Oh man I'm libertarian as fuck and I've been laughinglike a goddamned retard at that picture for a good 5 min5
>>72010623
Wrong. Conservatives here want big government.
>>72010996
>he thinks I'm arguing for planned economy
As I said, autistic.
>>72009413
Incorrect. We care about a future where leeches aren't rewarded and people continue to live free and happy lives.
We don't like worthless sacks of shit that exist for no purpose other than to consume and breed. There is nothing wrong with that.
You, on the other hand, would deprive a man of his ability to think and reason, simply because you feel sorry that he's having a hard life. You're like a parent, that coddles everyone's kid instead of just your own.
You should be shot in the fucking head.
>>72010844
Libertarians don't want it. Hong Kong is largely libertarian, it sports one of the highest rates of economic freedom. It beat all of Britain in GDP per capita literally within 4 decades (from ~20% of it to almost 140%).
If you don't think libertarian regions exist, you are retarded. They have been and continue to be more successful than modern, socialist/semi-socialist countries.
>>72010543
>>72010147
How does that make them wrong though?
>>72009413
>being of benefit to someone else
C U C K
>>72010543
Okay, the problem with this argument is libertarian thought is anti, not really of. Libertarians would be styled as classical liberals or minarchists for the main point; the minimal amount of government required to run a functioning economy. So, a libertarian country, or a country with libertarian values would essentially be socially liberal, fiscally conservative.
>national governments only get bigger and only gain more control barring catostrophic economic or political conditions
It really depends on what you're considering a catastrophe. For instance, Estonia is very much a fiscal conservative nation that runs on an austerity platform; and it succeeds greatly compared to the rest of the post-Soviet bloc. Besides that, China, and Vietnam have gone from extremely controlled market economies to mixed market economies in a few decades.
Historically though, nations tend to disarm in peace because running standing armies is difficult. Nations also readjust to simpler codes of law once they become incapable of effectively operating.
>the government is literally always the last thing that weakens. the people go down before it does.
This really doesn't mean anything; the USSR fell before the people did. Argentina/Brazil changed government before the people fell apart.
>>72011142
It's a joke on "Marx never worked" ad hominem.
That said I'm not a Marxist.
>>72010147
Milton taught at multiple universities and worked for NBER
>>72010623
Yes and no. Libertarians can be socially conservative personally, but they would want the government out of the social sphere all together.
I'd argue that conservatives that want the government to regulate personal conduct that does not infringe on the rights of others are as bad as the left that wants to use their machinery to censor and promote their own leftist values.
Not wanting brutes and niggers like you to use force for every of their wishes is not being selfish, you're the selfish faggot
>>72010147
>Marx talking about muh exploitation
>kicks his maid out on the streets after impregnating her
>literally worst writer (read Das Kapital in uts original language, it's fucking shit writing
>shit philosophy that cannot be applied and doesn't make sense in the simplest factors (i.e. Distinction between private and personal property. Who? What? What if it's both? What about my fucking sexual organs?)
>>72009999
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Incredible!
>>72011947
Marx was a faggot, but so were Rothbard and Rosenbaum.
At least Marx gave a good analysis of capitalism even though his ideas are shit.
These people did absolutely nothing.
>>72009999
Good god, glorious get
>>72010186
Check the flag
>>72009413
>implying that statists who want to subsidize welfare leaches aren't the ones who don't care about others
You're holding back society by allowing people to get paid to exist.
You're stealing from both the current generation and future ones.
You attempt to deny men their most basic rights, given to them by their creator.
You allow an organization which produces nothing, only takes, oppresses and destroys to continue existing under the argument that it is for the good of the world, which really means you're a cuck who can't manage his own life and needs the government to take over a huge portion of it.
No john, you are the selfish one.
bullshit
the bedouins were doing fine before government.
we still help eachother out, we just dont need big dady government to force us to.
I donate to my local homeless shelter every friday which actually helps people with hard lives unlike welfare, get fucked statist
>>72014890
NOT
>>72009413
>implying i give a flying fucking muffin
fuck off liberal
Authoritarianism/tyranny will never rule this board.
U.S value and freedom are at it's core even though we've drifted so far from it.
Please keep your shitty ideas to your own cucked eu nations. ty
>>72009413
Because the primary purpose of living is to sacrifice your self interest and be of use to other people you will never meet?
You sound like someone who needs others to tie your own shoes.
>>72010147
>muh empathy
Yeah, you sure are empathic, libertarians who want progress by disregarding today's poor so poverty become less and less common in the future are such monsters.
Bet your children will appreciate your socialist empathy, just like these Cubans are appreciating theirs.
is it time for some rare gadsdens?
>>72009413
What is wrong in being selfish?
>>72009413
>give me stuff i haven't earned or you're shallow, hollow and selfish
>>72016109
Pls yes
>put Gadsden flag on my cuckwagen
>get weird looks from tourists
