That's a good point.
Really makes you think.
Hmmm wow. It really does... .
>>71857779
Seat belt laws dont deter people from not using them, why should we have them?
>>71857917
/thread
>>71857779
Wtf i hate the bill of rights now
>>71857779
omfg I need to bin my knife now
>>71857779
Think about how retarded this comic and by extension, you; are? Yes, yes it does
Also
>brazil
>complaining about guns
>>71857779
CC and OC both prevent and stop shootings.
>>71857779
Good guys with guns haven't stopped mass shootings because they shoot them before they kill enough people for it to actually be considered a mass shooting.
>>71857779
BRB, smashing all my guns with a sledge hammer.
>>71857779
>citation needed
Daily reminder that pointing a gun at someone is considered Intimidation, Deadly Conduct, or Disorderly Conduct
>>71857779
This is so stupid thatit has to be double reverse satire
>>71857779
>you can't use slippery slope fallacies when you're debating gay marriage!
>proceeds to use the slippery slope fallacy when debating gun control
>>71857779
I'm not even a gunfag but there are a few undeniable points:
1. Legal gun ownership and gun violence rates are NOT correlated in the United States
2. The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution guarantees that the government will not interfere with the individual's right to armed self-defense.
3. No one is forcing you to own a gun.
4. No one is forcing you to be around gun owners.
The second amendment isn't there to stop spree shooters or criminals.
It's there to kill niggers for when the race war comes.
>>71858227
Now watch as OP will never be seen again
>>71857779
You can't CC in schools, as far as I know.
>>71858306
The comic speaks for itself, I don't need to defend it from your irrational ramblings.
>>71857917
>>71857988
Except seat belts don't kill other people.
>>71857779
It makes me think of how fucking retarded you are.
>>71857779
>the stupid sign didn't stop mass shootings
>neither did our pleas to ban them
>lets make the same mistakes we made 1994
>>71857779
I'm really impressed that you support open pointing, Brazil bro.
You have passed a crucial test to prove you are not a nigger-tier country, and that you love freedom.
>>71857779
>$5.99 for loaded magazines
Hot shit, sign me up.
>>71857779
that's the worst strawman i have ever seen
>>71857779
The woman in pink is the background is the proof that there is a god
>>71858448
The comic is itself a delusional strawman. Go off yourself.
They cant become "mass" shootings if they are stopped by a guy with a gun.
>>71857779
>concealed carries don't stop crime
tell that to this champ
>>71857779
by that logic the FBI, NSA, DHS and other organizations have not prevented any successful terrorist attacks
>>71859266
EXACTLY!
That's what I said earlier
>>71858120
>>71859378
rekt
>>71859378
>one crime stopped out of hundreds of thousands a year
Really effective.
>>71859378
I love watching hoodrats get wasted.
>>71859378
"but but but that doesn't count! black guy dindu nuffin! wudnt hurt nobody! just wann a lil cash!"
-OP
>>71857779
If you don't have a gun, how are you going to shoot niggers?
>>71859496
>one crime
do you honestly believe this?
>>71859378
>>concealed carries don't stop crime
>tell that to this champ
The crime still happened.
/pol/ btfo!
reddit gold inc, good sir! :^)
>>71859496
You are literally retarded. Imagine how many more crimes just that one nigger would commit if he wasn't shot?
>>71859569
home alone: detroit edition
"Seat belt laws don't protect people in seat belt-free zones so why bother with seat belts?"
>>71859378
He wouldn't be robbing the place to start with if guns weren't so widespread.
>>71859496
>guess we should all just give up
>women get raped all year 'round let's just bend over
>you can't stop crime don't even try
>we're all gonna die anyways I'll just kill myself
you should take the last bit of advice defeatist scum
watch how a real man defends his family
>>71859602
What crime? I didn't see anything stolen, and they only person shot was the nigger
>>71859496
Looks like we need more carriers, faggot. Most crime happens in nog infested cities with strict gun control.
> b-but the American people never need to use guns to revolt against the Jews
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)
>>71859593
Guns have only been recorded to have prevented between 100-200 crimes a year. A lot of people recite the Kleck data, which was just from surveys does in the 90s with dubious polling methods.
Guns doesn't really cause or prevent crime.
>>71859723
He would have used a knife you dipshit.
>>71859664
>>71859731
>>71859729
1. most rape occurs in relationships
2. crime rates have been steadily falling for decades, regardless of gun control laws.
>>71859786
How can you honestly accurately measure that? A criminal isn't going to decide against robbing a home because of the thought of guns and run to the closest US census worker to fill out a survey.
>>71859786
>Guns have only been recorded to have prevented between 100-200 crimes a year.
So that's a 'no' to my question
>>71859992
>How can you honestly accurately measure that?
Police reports.
>>71860079
You are fucking retarded
>>71857917
no but the new cars dont stop fucking beeping until you put it on
>>71860079
Really now, and how do the police accurately measure that? A criminal isn't going to decide against robbing a home because of the thought of guns and run to the closest police department to fill out a survey.
>>71860145
You're the retarded one.
You're telling me if someone attacks you, you're not going to call the cops even if you had a gun to defend yourself or not?
>>71857779
Why would everyone be drawing on each other all the time? That's fucking crazy. Look up gun violence in idaho. Almost doesn't exist at all. I don't know anybody that lives here that doesn't own a firearm and the majority of them have their enhanced concealed permits. Stop acting like guns are evil.
>>71859786
So first it was one. Now it's 200. What bullshit number are you gonna pull out next?
>>71858100
care to cite this somwhere, anywhere
>>71858167
actually its felony aggravated assault
>>71860233
They record crimes they respond to, and which off those involved a gun for self defense.
I'm not sure how you are unable to get this concept.
It isn't correct to say that a concealed carry or an open carry haven't stopped crimes or shootings before they've happened.
What is more interesting is that most mass shootings and murders in general happen when gunmen enter a gun-free zone and then slaughter all of the defenseless people there.
In a way, armed people do deter shooters because if they didn't, then mass shooters wouldn't have an issue with going into an army base or a police station guns blazing relative to a gun-free zone such as a school or a church.
Fuck you Leftist fucks.
>>71860343
I'm tired of this retarded answer.
"Gun free zones" are done for safety reasons. Sure, sometimes mass shootings happen in schools, but there's also no reason to carry tons of guns and ammo around in high schools. Accidents do happen. The "gun free zone" has nothing to do with preventing crime, just preventing accidents.
Go fuck yourself. We are getting fucked over because of the loss of out "2nd amendment" and you want other countries to stop having guns too? Fucking retard, I hope you die.
Also, open carry does work. Why do you think that schoolshootings are so common? Because no guns are allowed in schools. If every teacher had a gun it wouldn't happen.
>>71860343
>mass shooters wouldn't have an issue with going into an army base
Fort Hood
>>71857779
Liberals and the Left don't consider any kind of mass shooting as such unless a certain threshold has been passed.
If under four people have been shot, it is not a mass shooting. If more than four people have been shot, it is a mass shooting.
Now it's important to remember this because:
Killer shoots 1-3 people, and is shot in the process? No mass shooting has occurred, therefore none was prevented.
Killer shoots 4+ but then is shot by concealed carry holder? Mass shooting happened, and was thus not prevented.
The very concept of the concealed carry permit holder preventing the massacre from becoming worse is not important here, and you should not bring it up. Mass shootings are the issue here, and by their logic concealed carry cannot stop them, and thus should be banned.
>>71857917
Yes, we should. People are morons and they need all the government intervention they can get to keep from killing themselves. If you think that the average human is smart enough to not kill themselves doing the dumbest things imaginable, I would direct you to Jackass and the Darwin Awards.
Keep in mind, I don't care if people take risks and harm only themselves. But unless you live alone on an isolated farm, you're invariably going to risk harming innocent bystanders. This includes people ejected from their cars because they weren't wearing seat belts. The bodies do land in traffic, causing other vehicles to swerve and crash.
>>71859924
if a crime doesn't get reported, did it really happen?
>>71860501
Safety for whom? The shooter or the people? Because so far, all its done is let the shooter kill more or run out of ammo
>>71860564
Didn't a murder/suicide just happen recently on an air force base, too?
>>71860327
Are you having trouble reading the words I typed twice over now? How do you measure the number of times that a potential criminal decided against breaking into a home because he knows there will be a good chance of a gun owner waiting to fuck his shit up? This shit is called herd immunity when talking about viruses, those who choose not to protect themselves are protected by the fact that many others will do so to the point that criminals choose not to try.
>>71860501
>gun free zones are for safety
How safe are they when someone breaks the law by shooting up the defenseless who reside there?
>>71859378
That guy was operator as fuck.
>>71860651
>How do you measure the number of times that a potential criminal decided ag
Now you're just talking about hypothetical situations rather than recording what actually happens.
Also, according to you, places with no guns would have tons of crime, but Europe has much lower crime rates.
>>71860596
consider it population regulation
It is not my problem if you're too stupid to do simple things to ensure your safety, and I'll be damned if I have to pay for the gov't to remind you to do so. And we both know that reminder will cost a fee, and pay 3 peoples salaries who do not contribute to society in any meaningful way.
>>71859496
Defensive gun usages are estimated to be in the hundreds of thousands per year range. Of course, it's kind of hard to keep track of crimes that didn't happen.
>>71859730
>destruction of property
Some southern plantation owner is going to pissed that his cotton picking equipment is dead now.
>>71860824
see
>>71859786
Fake data
>>71860778
Chicago has ridiculously strict gun laws and has ridiculously high gun crime
WHO KNEW
>>71860564
Keep in mind that guy had military experience and even then killed only unarmed personnel.
> It's a Matt Bors draws a white male as having a buzz cut and crazy eyes episode.
>>71860343
Army bases restrict carry to the rejects that they keep at the front gate. That's why mass shootings have happened on them.
>>71858514
well see when I go full sonic the edgehog and strangle you with your own seatbelt irl, nothing personnel, kid.
>>71860824
>Of course, it's kind of hard to keep track of crimes that didn't happen.
Can you prove this is because of guns, or just because of the general trend of falling crime rates?
Guns don't stop crime. Guns also don't cause crime.
There isn't strong correlation one way or the other.
>>71857779
draw Muhammad contest
>>71858514
try telling that to the driver that sued my ass for $300,000 for unlawful death
>>71861041
Correct.
>>71860578
I've been trying to figure out a coherent way to word this.
Good job for having some common sense. Have another webm.
>>71860778
>now you're just talking about hypothetical situations
tell me now if you feel like being honest for once:
If you were going to break into one of two houses,
and you had to choose between
1)A house owned by people with guns for self-defense, or
2)A house owned by people without guns for self-defense,
which would be your likely target? If you absolutely HAD to break into one of these two houses, which would you prefer?
>>71857779
Fixed it for you.
>>71859723
That video is in Brazil you faggot. Get fucked. Here guns are illegal yet the criminals got their hand to it. Thank god that guy was a cop.
>>71861169
Soon
>>71860564
it was also a gun free zone
>>71861152
The majority of break ins occur when the owners aren't home
>>71861224
he was from Brazil? I didn't know that thanks for the heads-up. was he considered a hero for his work, or did he get cucked with the same SJW libshits here in this thread?
>>71859786
The lowest number for estimated defensive gun uses I have seen, ever, was still 63000 a year.
And that was from an antigun group.
>>71860564
literally a gun free zone. thanks liberals.
>>71858259
kek
>>71861039
Are you retarded? DGU's are reported incidents of people witnessing a crime stopped by a civilian gun owner or they are self-reported. They are not a recorded police statistic. Legitimate DGUs are estimated to be between 75,000-800,000 depending on the researcher.
Nobody can prove anything conclusive with gun laws. That's why the libcucks start screaming victory whenever one of their half-baked retards puts out a paper claiming that they have proven that guns=bad. Unfortunately, it's all cherry-picking.
>>71861539
>let's make our military bases gun free zones lol
liberalism is a fucking joke
>>71861600
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr
>>71861443
I see you didn't answer my question, let's try again.
Do you break into the first house owned by gun owners?
Do you break into the second house owned by non-gun owners?
You know the majority of the time nobody will be home, but what if someone is? You don't know that do you? Do you feel safer breaking into the house that does or does not have guns? Which is a greater deterrent to your break in?
Answer the question if you aren't COMPLETELY intellectually dishonest.
>concealed carries haven't deterred mass shootings
I'm sure gun free zones had nothing to do with that
>>71861669
That was Bill Clinton's doing.
>>71859569
>>71857779
I've actually heard of a number of concealed carry holders stopping shooters, and I don't even live in the US. Also got to consider the times that happens when we don't hear about it.
>>71861771
You're ignoring reality.
Any smart criminal is going to break in when the owner is not home, whether they have a gun or not.
Sure, if they have a gun it might deter a criminal if that criminal magically knew there was a gun, but this is a hypothetical situation that ignores real statistics.
>>71861923
he raped more than just women
>>71861987
Answer the question fucktard.
Real statistics are that you might not know 100% whether or not someone is home, regardless of the car in the driveway.
>any smart criminal
so does the smart criminal break into the house with gun owners?
or does the smart criminal break into the house with gun non-owners?
The first house or the second?
>>71861987
>Any smart criminal
reallynow.jpg
>>71861771
>intellectually dishonest
Do you have experience owning and using firearms, robbing houses, or living in a country where both of these things are common occurences? What makes you think the average junky knows which house owns guns? Are you completely sheltered?
>>71861987
Smart criminals are called politicians.
>>71857779
this image has really made me think
>>71861708
Okay? I was talking about defensive gun usages being a large, uncertain number because the police typically don't record crimes that never happen.
This isn't a larger statement saying that guns stop all crime. It's simply saying that a defensive gun usage only rarely has a crime attached to it. The usual outcome is that the would-be criminal saw or heard a gun and decided not to commit a crime as a result.
Apart from that, the high DGU figure should imply that civilian owned guns play at least as large of a helpful role as they do a detrimental one.
>>71862241
I'm thinking you quoted the wrong person because that's what I've been arguing for this thread. If you don't know whether or not someone has guns in the house and you think it's likely they do, it's going to be a deterrent to robbing that house.
>>71862241
>Kleck, 90s cited multiple times
Already addressed this. He would do stuff like walk around the streets of Austin (and hire people to do the same to help him) and just ask people "do you know anyone that used a gun in self defense?" Then went on to pretend all results were honest, non duplicated, and represent statistics for the whole country.
He data was used by people congress during the first AWB, but was dismiss for being dishonest.
>>71859729
>Fat man runs outside in his underwear scaring minorities off with a pistol.
If he were holding a cheeseburger it would be America summarized.
>>71862180
>>71862187
May be anecdotal, but the area in which I used to live in IL, which was filled with mansions and lots of luxury, almost never had hoodrats from Chicago, North Chicago, and other blighted areas come to burglarize, save for the criminally naive. Reason being is that my area has the highest concentration of gun owners around.
>>71862405
"Violent Crime" is counted differently in the US and the UK. In the US UCR, only 4 crimes fall under violent crime. To the UK Home Office, over 20 crimes count as violent.
>>71857779
>people carrying guns haven't stopped shooters
Top kek.
And you tell me if a room full of people had guns out it wouldn't deter shooters even in the slightest?
>>71862397
Just re-read your post, I misunderstood the subtext. Apologies.
>>71862421
>He would do stuff like walk around the streets of Austin
Source, or your good word?
>>71861443
>>71861987
fun fact: "hot" robberies (robberies that occur when the occupants are home) are much more common in the UK than in the US.
>>71860778
>Europe has much lower crime rates
Much lower nigger rates too. Not that there's any correlation or anything...
>>71862361
>cherry pick 4 countries
>ignore almost all of Europe, Australia, Canada.
>>71862421
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/02/defensive-gun-ownership-gary-kleck-response-115082
>>71862576
>"Violent Crime" is counted differently in the US and the UK.
>>71858256
How has this been missed?
/thread
>>71862638
>ignore Australia, Canada
>>71862638
>ignore almost all of Europe
>>71862641
I think it's pretty telling when the "surveys" report hundreds of thousands, but there are only a few dozen justifiable homicides a year and only about 100-200 recorded cases a year where a gun was drawn in self defense.
Either 99% of people aren't reporting crime to the cops, or the statistics are false.
>>71857779
>tfw it isn't a mass shooting if it's stopped by a gun
>>71862559
It's just simple survival instinct. You're less likely to rob a house that will probably have a gun owner.
>>71862638
>>71862576
Are you planning on answering that question(here >>71862180) anytime soon or are you going to keep lying in the thread and avoid giving me an honest answer? Please leftist, your squirming is entertaining but I want you to answer me now.
>>71862638
>still ignoring Europe
>>71862832
Sure: not an argument
>>71862638
>cherry pick 4 countries
>>71862832
Exactly
>>71862638
>australia
>>71862613
We have muslims with guns, almost the same as your niggers
>>71862670
This person is assuming all recorded deaths in the UK are murders and there are 0 accidents.
>>71862892
Come now, hypothetically, if you have to break into one house, tell me:
Are you going to break into the house of the people who own guns
or are you going to break into the house of the people who do not?
It's easy, my leftist friend, just answer "House 1" or "House 2." Why is this so difficult for you? You see, I was able to type both answers just now.
>>71862756
>>71862803
>i'll just ignore statistics that disagree with my narrative
>disregard all other statistics they're not done by people who agree with me
liberals in a nutshell
>>71863114
The US has about double the murder rate, what's your point?
Guns do not cause or prevent crime.
>>71857779
slippery slope fallacy
>>71863155
>he's assuming all recorded deaths are murders
No, he's not. You're lying or you didn't read, or you didn't understand. It's there for everyone to check and see what your problem is.
And the whole debate we always have is specious. Guns don't correlate to violent crime rates.
You know what does?
>>71862818
I just thought it was interesting to bring Kleck up with him writing about the topic not too long ago. Even his primary detractor put the number at 60,000-80,000 at the time.
Most of the things that have been written on the topic since have been shameless rehashes of previous arguments, and no legitimate argument has been made that has dropped the number out of the tens of thousands.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use
There have been mass shootings that where stopped by people carrying
>>71859496
>b/c lawful, concealed possession does not deter an arbitrary amount of crime, you shouldn't be allowed the opportunity to protect yourself
liberals want us all to be defenceless
>>71863404
There's a reason the right wing in congress wants to prevent the CDC from studying gun deaths and gun violence.
>>71863249
>The US has about double the murder rate
As long as you don't normalize the population, and account for racial crime rates and per capita.
Are you new to shilling on this issue?
>factoring in race
>>71857779
Daily reminder that at least 80% of homicides in this country are Leftists dying. So every time you hear about a murder, there's an 8/10 chance that it's a Democrat, crying like a bitch for his mother, rolling around in a pool of his own blood and stomach acid wishing he had been able to steal more of your money and restrict more of your freedoms.
>>71861142
>9mm
>>71859786
>b8ting this hard
>>71860278
Care to cite where they don't?
>>71863487
Yes there is, and that reason is that the CDC proved itself incapable of examining the issue without bias. They literally admitted that they wanted to push gun control, and were conducting research to reach that predetermined conclusion. That isn't good science, and definitely doesn't deserve public funding.
>>71863690
>hur durrr it's all race!
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43
The question is not "what percent of crime is committed by blacks" it's "what percent of blacks are criminals?"
>>71863483
This is the true hypocrisy of leftists right here:
>protecting women is so central to their ideology
>yet they do their best to keep the ultimate equalizer out of their hands
Anyone who truly believes that this is a "rape culture" and other such bullshit should be all for guns everywhere so they can elevate the power of a woman beyond her usual physical limits to protect herself from rapists.
>>71861495
over here he's a hero but there are leftist human rights type of faggorts that will defend the criminals
>>71864148
You're replying to nothing I actually said. Is this the part where you throw a tantrum and strawman furiously?
>>71858258
This post is pretty underrated to be honest.
>>71864315
>feminist
>jew
/pol/ being right again
>>71864306
>You're replying to nothing I actually said.
>>71863690
>>71860278
http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/
>>71861142
This makes me so happy on so many levels, one of the reasons I keep a 9mm on me even if it's illegal here.
>>71857779
I AM SILLY?
>>71864394
WHat part of
>guns don't correlate with rate of violent crime
>race does
became
>hur hur itsallaboutrace nyeah waaaah
>furiously linking FBI stats to correct what, no one can tell
>wet fisting noises
What? Do you want me to keep dumping stats?
>>71863487
Because they fear that it will be co-opted by the left-wing space-fillers who rely on government excess for their jobs
>>71864616
Population density is actually the largest thing to correlate with crime. When you pack lots of people into smaller areas, crime rate go up.
>>71864617
Compared to shitposters that do nothing but live in echochambers all day?
>>71862803
what's the website?
>>71858417
College campuses in Texas will allow CC now as of August 2016
>>71864681
>pop density is largest thing to blah blah
Citation required, nigger.
>when you blah blah
Citationese, nigger, do you speak it?
>>71864749
One of these things would be a one-off study that leftists would parrot for years to come. The other is an anime image board.
>>71859786
>he actually cited the number of justifiable homicides as representative of defensive gun use
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. How fucking new to this debate are you!?
A defensive gun use doesn't have to end with a justifiable homicide. In fact it very rarely does.
Probably why even the lowest estimate of defensive gun use, put out by a paid shill for a gun control organization who openly despises gun owners, is over 60k. Probably why most estimates by people who aren't shills are in the hundreds of thousands.
And you're in here citing justifiable homicide... just fucking wow. Clueless on an embarrassing level.
>>71857779
I AN SILLY
>>71864681
Must be why Alaska is actually one of the more violent states... all that population density.
>>71864821
>One of these things would be a one-off study that /pol/ would parrot for years to come
Just described the Kleck data AND stormfront for you.
>>71864944
Totally explains why most of Africa is multiples more violent than most of China. The Sahara and the Congo have WAY MORE POP DENSITY than China.
>>71864964
>WAAAAAH STORMWEEEEENIES
Go home.
>>71864964
there's been data posted from numerous sources
you got blown the fuck out
>>71865191
Not an argument
>>71865244
Not finshed evolving
>>71865244
I'm glad you can tell I didn't make an argument, but an observation.
you got blown the fuck out
>>71864507
I like how no one has responded to this yet. Also, a quick fucking google search would easily show you that it's true. But no, you idiots just want to be spoon fed information or else you dont buy it. Who really believes good guys with guns has never stopped a shooting?
>>71865329
http://www.nature.com/index.html?file=/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1455.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2271140/
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.10079/abstract;jsessionid=F7CE43E76C6B6AF7D965CF1A2F1C7E34.f02t03
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707610015
http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1435.html
http://www.nature.com/index.html?file=/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1436.html
http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1454.html
>>71857779
ok what percentage of shooting spree'ers had concealed carry permit
what percentage of people killed by guns did the perpetrator have concealed carry?
isnt it like quite a process to get concealed carry permit?
also
"concealed carries havent deterred mass shottings"
is he implying that concealed carry was put in place to do that? doesnt make any sense
>>71865087
only one of them has the capability to create weights on our social welfare systems
the other has the capability to remove them
>>71857779
considering neither concealed carries nor open carries were allowed at any of the places mass shootings took place, the only thing it makes me think is that the cartoonist is retarded.
>>71865457
Are these the pop density argument citations?
Oops.
>according to all evidence, pop density and race are the problem, not guns
Shit. You just BTFO'd yourself biting that bait, huh?
That's harsh.
You just had to show me the sources.
Impulse control is a racial thing too.
>>71865457
Lack of segregation is part of that pop density issue.
Happy little fyi.
;^)
>>71865481
as someone in support of gun regulation I am also in support of concealed carry with proper safety training. guns should be legal but it should not be an elementary task to acquire one; you should only be able to get them if you are sufficiently inclined to do so and sincerely desire to have that responsibility.
i believe that visible guns do cause anxiety but their presence in good, well judging, TRAINED hands is safer than no gun at all and can save many lives. if we had concealed carry in canada, i would certainly make an effort to carry a concealed firearm.
>carrying a gun with a shoulder holster underneath your shirt and not just the jacket
I'm sure the comic is well informed on this topic
>>71857779
Not really. Mass shooting happen in gun free zones where law abiding citizens are unable to carry their firearms for protection.
>206 replies
>>71858258
/thread
Lol all but a few of the mass shootings have happened in "gun free zones" only the bad guys had the guns lol.
>>71861142
A Brazil again...we really are Live leak greatest ally.
>>71864681
>Liberals actually believe this
By complete chance there was an article about this in the paper a few weeks ago related to Britain. Out of the top 10, 9 of them have the highest amount of niggers and/or sandpeople in the country. I guess it's just pure coincidence. I'm glad that this is a gun-free country or gun crime would be raising year on year since, I don't know, 1996 let's say when the handgun ban came in. It's almost like guns make the average person just as dangerous as the government and the government doesn't like that, don't you think? I mean yeah, anyone could have walked around with a sword in ye olde times, but what the fuck can one 13 year old with a sword do against all the King's horses and all the King's men? Not much. It's almost like a gun fired by a 13 year old is just as deadly as a gun fired by a 30 year old soldier.
>>71860278
Fucking moron
Here is a prime example.
In 1993 four niggers from the Azanian People's Liberation Army attacked St James church (Cape Town) with R4 assault rifles and M26 hand-grenades.
One guy in the congregation was armed with a .38 special revolver.
Only 11 people were killed, because hey fled when he opened fire and wounded one of them.
Now compare this to Bataclan in Paris where 3 gunmen killed 89 people.
Can you imagine if someone in that audience actually had a gun and knew how to use it?
Many people would have been saved.
>>71863373
source?
what cities were used?
>>71867102
Fucking Jews owned Bataclan Club and sold it to run away to Israel
>>71858514
Guns don't kill people either, people kill people.
>>71861169
I thought that was the indian flag ashoka wheel on his arm at first lol.
>>71867102
IFWEHADBULLETSGOINGINTHEOTHERDIRECTION.wav
>>71857779
They should ban anyone who starts a thread with this phrase "wow really makes you think" is what i think
>>71857917
yes they do you fucktard
>>71863373
>You know what does?
*whispers*niggers*whispers*
>>71865087
Only if you need background checks, permits and in some places licenses to have a kid or an abortion.
>>71860596
People are morons.
And what do you think the government is composed of?
>>71865329
Wow! Different people look different. Thanks for this.
>>71865637
In America? Neither. Sadly.
>>71857779
why does it seem that liberals can only articulate their points through cartoons?
>>71860278
People don't tend to target places with armed police or guards over places that don't
>>71872065
Shows the mental processing going on.
It's on a childlike level.
Greenland what?
>Really makes you think.
Not at all.
The premise is entirely nonsensical.
>>71857779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCI4bUk4vuM
>>71859496
>>71863373
http://nationalvanguard.org/2016/02/poverty-race-and-crime/
>"Blacks and Whites simply aren’t the same kind of creature."
kek
>>71857779
I've gotta be honest I lost patience with this SJW dumbass a while ago but you guys BTFO of this faggot. Gonna bookmark this thread as SCQjQuTB so I can come back and laugh at the sheer stupidity. 30 replies in this thread and each one is reeling with heightened signs of desperation and denial. At first he goes off about the facts and his statistics, then he discredits the statistics that are thrown back at him, then he flat out ignores every other source and statistic thrown his way while touting "not an argument" like he actually understands one.
The mental gymnastics are incredible.
Just look up his posts and laugh, 10/10 thread.
>>71860596
It's not the job of the government to protect people from themselves.
This is a slide thread. Sage it.
>>71857779
>everyone is peaceful
>everyone is happy
>preloaded magazines are only $5.99
Is this comic insinuating that opening pointing would lead to a utopia?
OP here.
It was just a prank!
>>71857779
In Denmark carryinc weapons is illegal and no dane is able to get to a firearm.
Muslims can easily obtain firearms though and they are doing it all the time.
Thank god our government has taken away our rights to bear arms so we can be less of a burden when the muslims are robbing us.
>>71858514
Ill have you know my family was killed by a seatbelt last year
>>71857779
You are dumb as fuck every fuckin criminal in the United States has a firearm and we aren't the kind of people that are going to wait for someone else to save us fuck off with your shill ass
>>71873895
Oh you!
>>71873895
either way 10/10 thread
to draw flies you use shit :^)
>>71873973
same here senpai, our crime rates have never been better!
>>71858514
http://www.againstseatbeltcompulsion.org/victims.htm
Oops. You're wrong.
That's how they did it back in the old west!
YEE HAW!
>>71863373
>http://nationalvanguard.org/2016/02/poverty-race-and-crime/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Century_Foundation
That data is from that publication company. Pretty biased source.
>>71857779
slippery slope fallacy where the slope is replaced with a massive cliff drop
>>71864881
You are a good leaf.
I will let you rest in the yard and not rake you up.
>>71874123
It's pathetic. Litterary happends all the time. Muslim/roma/ or any sort of eastern or middle-eastern immigrant holds a dane at gun point and mugs him for all his shit. They do break and entery or even just shoot on open street some times. There's been people shot right next to where I live like three times now and I've only lived here for five years.
>>71874782
Yeah it's fucking madness.
The latest proposed legislation to stop "gun crime" here in the UK is a ban on all tolls which can be used alone or in combination with other tools to create, modify or reactivate a firearm.
They want to ban my hand saw because their shitty gun laws did nothing.
>>71874935
>ban tools
And the regressive left laughs at us for accusing them of being anti-male.
>>71860233
Roughly 3/4ths of criminals don't commit a crime due to thinking or knowing their potential victim is armed.
t DOJ
>>71874935
Holy fuck. It's like they don't even want to admit that it's only criminals who are out using the firearms. It's not like a criminal would know or ever need to craft a firearm, they can always get them smugled into the country.. At least as long as we have such pathetic border control and pathetic penal laws.
