why don't millennials want to have kids?
>>81344731
Because they haven't even grown up themselves.
>>81344731
Youth culture which was created in the 60's was idolized and promoted, continuously evolving. It was used to disassociate and estrange the youth from their parents, thusly giving the youth a preplanned Jewish counterculture.
Part of this culture is a rejection of adulthood and an effort to delay responsibility as well as a rejection of conservative values which leads to parenthood. Combine this with feminism which alienates the sexes and consumerism which makes pleasure not family the driving force behind earning and you have the answer.
>>81344731
I'd want to want to have children, but they are just so annoying and terrible in every way.
>>81344921
I've met libtards who got knocked up at 17 2bh
>>81344731
we do
t. millenial
>>81344731
They cost too damn much money. Why being an ungreatful little whore into the world when you can fuck random people from tinder and blow your money on yourself?
because no sane person wants a "modern" woman, and those seem to be the majority.
I've got one on the way. Wife wants one more. If I can tolerate them then I'll push for 3 total.
We're trying to pay off her car before the end of the year (baby due next Feb). If we can do that then we can afford for her to be a stay at home mom and I'll be fine.
Two of my friends are 29 and 34 and still live at home. One of my good friends is on his own and wants kids - he's 28. My bffle is 29 and him and his wife live in an apartment. She doesn't want kids but I think she will eventually because he enjoys kids.
Seems as if there's no real motivation anymore.
>>81344731
I've had and abandoned two kids with two wives. Anyone who wants kids must have been dropped on their head. Kids fucking suck.
>>81344731
Terrible financial decision, also fuck kids. Children are annoying as fuck and retarded in general
>1 Post by this ID
Dont forget to sage lads
>>81345340
More simply put, we are victims of our own success.
Convenience breeds decadence, and in time, all improvements in quality of life lead to the unfortunate idea that all luxuries are somehow necessities. Based on this premise, we demand higher and higher standards of living, which force us to work longer and harder to obtain it. Even worse, although this is supposed to be the pinnacle of success, those who do actually attain it find themselves miserable at the end of the day.
>>81345845
>children are annoying as fuck and retarded in general
No, see, this is like using the asshole dogs at dog parks as a reason for not having kids. If you spend time with your children and teach them how to function instead of sticking them on the floor with toys and TV, they won't be the asshole/retard at the park.
My dog didn't become obedient and well behaved around others by chance or luck. I had to spend 20-30 minutes a day with her teaching her how to fucking act. You know, not attacking people or shitting wherever or just acting like a complete fucking idiot.
>>81344731
When my father graduated college with a liberal arts degree he was able to get a job that paid 60k/year. I got the same degree but am looking at only 30k/year (if that) unless I fork over tons of money to go to a good law school. Shit has changed. Even STEMfags are having issues.
I can't speak for everyone, but I can speak for myself.
My children would never have a happy and peaceful White country, a stable life with opportunity, or culture and arts to be inspired by.
Our fighting spirit is gone and most members of our race are traitors. My hypothetical offspring would probably racemix themselves, anyway.
The Jews have already won. That's why I won't have kids.
>>81345489
This is why the white race is dying.
>>81346284
>If you spend time with your children
Most middle-class and under folks don't have the luxury of doing this.
>>81344731
Raised by single mothers.
Why do you keep posting this?
>>81346284
Nigga, kids are fucking retarded regardless from age 0-3, nobody wants to deal with that shit. Same thing with any animal pets, except abimals are worse cause they can never do basic calculus. I would rather chop my arm of than get married and have kids in 21st century
>>81346770
That's horse shit. Complete horse shit. Involve your kids in cooking dinner, cleaning the house, reading to them, watching informative television, gardening, etc.
They have the time, they just value their own time more. Both my parents had full time jobs and I was in daycare. They still involved me in things at home. I can cook and clean and garden and fix anything at my house because of that involvement.
>>81345340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKUZ42T9diU
>>81347243
bobody on /pol/ has gotten laud let alone kids
>>81347243
Oh fuck off with your Mickey Mouse understanding of kids. I've got a 3 year old nephew that can already communicate in full, coherent sentences and read basic, common words.
Kid literally grabs menus in restaurants and can order. He doesn't just tell his parents CHICKEN TENDERS, he sees what they have, either hamburgers or chicken or pizza.
>>81347528
You just posted on /pol/ m8
America ruined everything, I'm not going to have children in a country that has no future.
>>81344731
Cause shit begets shit.
And they know they're shit deep down
>>81346400
Mine would
>>81346271
This is why I like National Socialism, it put an emphasis on soil and working the land, on labor and work. On man's connection with land, we're from the land. It creates an inherent sense of nature in man and promotes natural conservationism and environmentalism.
can't afford it
>>81345493
>knocked up at 17
those retards don't any have political views
>>81347527
Wat
>>81347606
But can he develop AI software right now? No, he's a retard. Once again, not worth having kids in 21st century, human are going to live longer anyways
$$$$$$$$$$$$
>>81347525
Not bad
>they didn't mean any harm
Oh Craig, if only you knew.
Can't afford to raise a child alone, marriage is temporary now not worth the risk.
Because who in their right fucking mind would want to bring kids into the hellscape that the world is right now? I mean face it, at some point very very soon (anywhere between this year or five years from now, 10 at maximum) shit is going to go down, hard. Why would you want to have kids in the middle of this? Having kids isn't bad, but having kids on the brink of major conflict in a society that's already falling apart is retarded. Ffs
>>81344731
as more women become educated, more women have less children
>>81345489
>>81345665
>>81345829
>>81345845
>>81347243
Degenerate selfish pieces of shit here. Anything worth doing is hard and takes patience. Like another anon said, this is why the white race is dying. I have two sons and a daughter. Kids drive you fucking nuts, but I'm playing the long game. I'm doing what my natural instinct tells me; populate the Earth with my kind so my people won't die out. You give up a lot of opportunities when you raise and provide for a family, but at least I can die knowing I left behind responsible members of my race.
>>81344731
Because of the severe overpopulation problem that is quickly killing the planet
I don't want my kids to grow up in a world dominated by SJW, faggots and feminists.
>>81344731
My girlfriend and I plan on having 3-6 kids
Ask me anything!!!!
>>81348845
That's why you be a fucking parent and raise them not to be whiney crybaby cunts.
>>81348981
this
>>81348672
idiot
>>81348902
Looks like she's already eating for 3-6 kids. Jesus.
>/pol/ complains about the diminishing white race and the devolving family unit
>they do nothing about it
Typical. Say one thing but don't actually do it. If you arent contributing then you're part of the problem.
>b-but women are whores!
>b-but children are annoying!
>b-but why do """""I""""" have to do it?
Face it you all are just like the manchildren you accuse millenial liberals of being. Fat, lazy neckbeards who always try to so desperately to find reasons to avoid your duties. But instead of white people, you blame the jews for everything. Ironic since you are literally acting like those jews who migrate into a country but refuse to be drafted and let other people do the dirty work while they reap the benefits. Yea thats you.
Disgusting.
>>81348902
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU!
>>81348457
Because you've already given up, faggot. Who's going to fight the fight, or cleanup and rebuild society? I don't want my kids to suffer, but they will know to stand fast and fight for what's right.
>>81348639
>I'm doing what my natural instinct tells me; populate the Earth with my kind so my people won't die out. You give up a lot of opportunities when you raise and provide for a family, but at least I can die knowing I left behind responsible members of my race.
>Instincts
Kek, use your brain next time fagit
>>81349204
Leaf
>>81344731
I don't have a job
>>81344731
B/c kids suck.
>>81349265
She's an athletic vegan
>>81348041
It's a parody of a Aesopic Fable about the Fox and the Grapes. According to it, a Fox saw a vine of nice juicy grapes one day after strotting around in the woods and tried numerous times to get it with no success, then walked off salty saying "I bet those grapes taste like shit!", showing that his bitterness to them at the end is a result of not being able to get them / taste them, despite making judgements like he actually did to justify his lack of success. In that comic, it parodies all the NEETs here who shit-post and rail against stuff they dislike to compensate for not getting it.
>>81349400
You have never accomplished anything in your life. You might as well kill yourself now.
>kids cost hundreds of thousands of dollars over their life
>you have to be around them all the fucking time
>kids are fucking shitty, they stink, they lie, they break shit
Pretty much they are selfish. Why have kids when you can save your money, buy shit you want, go wherever you want and do whatever you want. Do you want to travel? Can't do that with a kid. Want to buy a new PC? Can't do that with a kid because all your money goes to them. Want to have a few drinks, have some friends over and watch movies? Can't do that with a shitty fucking kid.
It's not so much a matter of not wanting to have kids, but rather people don't want to get married anymore. Women want to ride the cock carousel until the last possible second in their 30s and then find a beta male provider, but most men now know that marriage is rigged and they run a 60% chance of losing essentially everything then own.
>>81344731
1. I wouldn't want my child to live in the fucking shithole that I do
2. I don't think I could be a good father, I'm way too flawed and not really a very caring person, too self-centered and I don't want to inflict this trouble on my would be son
3. I don't have the means to raise a child (financially)
>>81344731
Because I can't afford it and because none of the women I've met in the last two years have been interested in either
a) Kids or
b) Long-term, stable, monogamous relationships
>>81349583
>athletic
Yeah, my bitches are athletic too. They don't have the arms of a linebacker, however.
>>81348639
This. I hope some posts in this thread is just bait but it seems /pol/ is full of degenerate teenagers
>>81349307
>Face it you all are just like the manchildren you accuse millenial liberals of being. Fat, lazy neckbeards who always try to so desperately to find reasons to avoid your duties.
Triggered
>>81344731
Because I don't want/need to take a huge gamble with my future. What if my child is manipulated by MSM into a life of perpetual depression, consumerism, and degenerate behaviors?? It'd be devastating as a parent to watch my child be a slave to the throes of pop culture.
>>81349812
And when you're at the end of your life, you will have left nothing of value behind. You've betrayed your race with your degeneracy. You worry about computers and drinking. Enjoy being selfish and forgotten.
>>81348672
Kill yourself you absolute moron
Because you can't raise a kid alone and marriage is a huge risk with modern white females?
Because we are concious of the world we live in and we don't want our kid praying to Allah or beheaded by the age of 10?
Because we don't want our kids to slave away their lives to the system that is made to work against them?
Because the gubbints and world institutions support mulsims and negroes with 4 kids rather than a white family?
I don't know WHY don't we have kids?
Also you're probably a millenial too so don't speak in third person faggot
There is literally nothing you can do you cucks
>>81349605
Ooh i have literally never seen that pic on /pol/, thanks
>>81344731
>le millennials meme xdddd
>>81349948
Probably tennis arms. Her stomach is as flat as an ironing board. She's likely played more sports than yours has, don't worry lol
>>81349631
>kids
>accomplishment
kek
We can't afford it.
http://archive.is/mtYbM
>>81350111
I rather live an interesting life full of adventure and lived the way I want it than have a shitty fucking kid that will make me fat and lazy and leech every fucking dollar I have off of me. Nothing matters after you die anyways, nothing fucking matters at the end of your life except what you did in life and I want to do everything without dragging a fucking kid around. I want to go to the amazon, travel around Africa, I want to advance my career and work in different cities around the world and I want to be able to come home from my job and not work another fucking job.
>>81350108
Again, be a fucking parent and do your best. Don't rely on anyone else but you to truly educate your children.
>>81350155
Name one (1) problem that couldn't be solved by there being less people making the world a miserable place
>>81350409
tfw when $360,000 house
>>81349917
many people here have the same way of thinking. Most of them arent christians and dont care about God and theres most of the time something wrong or flawed with them. Just a thing that ive noticed doesnt need to apply to evreyone. Some people dont have kids because they would be white and dont want to be racist dunno mate
>>81345493
17? I know some who had kids at 14
>>81350580
I'm not really what you're trying to say, is it that people who don't want to have children are not religious?
>>81344731
Because the dark races are overpopulating the planet.
>>81345493
You must be posh if you think 17 is bad.
>>81350375
Again, if you leave nothing behind to benefit your race, your life was a complete waste.
This thread is full of faggot beta teenagers who want to buy new computers and sleep until noon instead of actually accomplishing something.
>>81344731
Because home prices are too high.
The rise in the cost of residential property is proportional to falling fertility.
Fertility in San Francisco, which insane property prices, are among the lowest in the country while Austin has much higher fertility than average.
>>81349812
True dat
>>81349812
Of course the canadian thinks about video games and muh super fast PC eh!
Is that what occupies your conscious mind every day? Watching anime and playing online games? Are you really going to just do that till you're 75 and you die of heart attack because you overindulge in your senses every waking day?
Pathetic. Get off my /pol/ you degenerate Truduea loving maple faggot.
>>81350999
Check em /pol/ tards
>>81350370
Don't turn this into a pissing contest because your woman's upper body is larger than yours. I'm sure she has played more sports - my wife runs mountains with the dog, not take her to the local tennis court to watch her be active for 30 second long increments.
>>81350881
>This thread is full of faggot beta teenagers who want to buy new computers and sleep until noon instead of actually accomplishing something.
Not true, I'm investing all of my money and time into my business, and if it works well, I already have plans of expansion into neighboring countries.
That's a true achievement in my eyes, starting something out of nowhere and making it work.
Anyone can make a child, not all people can be successful in life though.
>>81344921
yet another first post best post
that's the best answer I think
people are growing up a lot later in life these days
>>81350881
This is a bait, right? Or people really are this retarded?
tbc, don't give a fuck what happens with white race (inb4 an american, of all people, telling me who is white and who isn't) after I'm dead. One life, might as well spend it travelling and shit.
>>81351072
Top kek m8. Fuck you cunt. Everyone knows Canada is best commonwealth country.
>>81350409
They only spent 9,000 on rent because they lived with their parents until they got a job, got married, and could afford to buy a house.
>>81351176
>Brazil
>success
Congrats on getting Zika beta fag
>>81344731
I don't want to be alive, why would I force someone else to be alive?
I don't want to live in this world, why would I force someone else into this world?
I don't like people, why would I make another person?
>>81350912
Then move. Get some fucking skills, find a job, get a nice broad, have only enough kids you can afford and raise them to be fucking responsible unlike what you're parents did for you.
Do none of you have any fight or drive??
There is no future, simple.
Why have children in an awful society with little prospects of it to be worthwhile ever again?
Only third world parasites, and the uneducated will have children without thinking.
>>81351072
I also like to go to the gym, go for hikes, snowboard, mountain biking, build furniture, play hockey, play soccer etc.
I can't do any of these once I have a kid, I might be able to keep one or two of these hobbies up but the rest will need to go. I'm to fucking selfish to do that.
Also the reality is i'm probably smarter, stronger, taller and healthier than you but a wide margin. I just dont want to give up what I love to raise a fucking leeching piece of shit. I've been around kids a lot as well, i'm one of the oldest of the cousins in my family and oldest of all my brothers and sisters by like 16-17 years, I know what kids are like and I dont fucking want them.
>>81351139
My girlfriend bikes practically actress the state lol. Enjoy your gf walking the dog though kek
>>81351072
>Of course the canadian thinks about video games and muh super fast PC eh!
Who doesn't, it's gr8!
>>81351247
You disappoint me. My people came from Poland a hundred years ago and built the cities that stand today. They were skilled craftsmen and made families with nondegenerate values. Dziadzi is rolling in his fucking grave.
>>81344731
Can't afford it mah nigga. Also, good luck dealing with western women.
>>81351564
>Why have children in an awful society with little prospects of it to be worthwhile ever again?
Kind of how I feel.
Either I raise them like every other kid in Canadian society and they become yet another brain-dead brick in the wall or I try to raise them how I see fit and they either reject me or become social outcasts.
Doesn't mean I'm not going to try, but I don't have high hopes.
>>81350803
im not saying that just that ive noticed this thing.
Doesnt apply to all
Global warming.
Seriously, I can deal with political instability, but if our entire home is becoming physically unstable then I do not want to raise my child in a place that won't be able to house them in the future.
If environmental policy changes and emissions are drastically reduced soon, I will probably have children.
>>81351247
You cowardly, defeatist weakling.
>>81351576
Selfish. If you taught half of those things to your kids, you would feel accomplished.
Why does everyone think your life is over when you have kids. Budget your fucking money, get a babysitter once in a while, and live your life when they're grown. Stop having kids when your 30 and 40.
In fact, its better that most.of.you don't have kids. You would just fuck them up and ruin the gene pool even more.
I'm a millenial I guess (19) and there's two big reasons why I haven't had kids.
1. I haven't found a woman who meets my standards, i.e. being good in a relationship, wanting kids, having good genes, and at least conforming to my political views. These traits are rather difficult to find since the women here are either ugly, or very vapid/self-absorbed.
2. I don't feel like I have the money to support them right now (I literally don't, I don't have a job, and I'm going to college). I'm willing to overlook this problem if I meet a good girl by some means who wants kids. If she wants to, and I want to, then I'll ask my parents for help, and she can ask hers, because desu I don't want to wait too long to have them anyway, because I want to be able to see my great grandkids and maybe further, depending on medical technology.
>>81352628
>Global warming
People still fall for this meme?
>>81344731
I do want to have kids. ;_;
>>81344731
Because I'm a black man, and the only remotely attractive women near me are completely fucking ghetto whores, or white crack bitches who are so coked up I wouldn't go near them with a 10 foot pole.
>>81352848
Don't give up. No offense but 19/yolds are fucking stupid. Do what you think is right, but don't be afraid of kids. They are a lot of work but when they're successful its worth it.
>>81352732
>taught half of those things to your kids
Or they dont give a shit what you do and act out like fucking faggots because kids are largely influenced by their friends and you cant control what hundreds of other kids at his school and shit will act like.
>>81344731
I'd lose my eternal youth, fug'd dat
Because life is about overcoming challenge. Kids add more challenge.
>>81353397
.... that you will learn to overcome
>>81351778
It's ok man. You have a partner that has a vagina. No need to get hung up on the packaging.
Because nobody wants to have kids with me.
>>81349307
Well said.
There's a very shaky yet neither proven-nor-disproven theory amongst some psych research circles that the reason a great deal of the ultra liberal types rail on about how it's okay to be gay or to be trans or what have you is, in their unwaking minds, some sort of strange method of bargaining that their children won't end up being those things. Like a 'if I support other people being like this, it won't effect me because that's fair' in some sort of karmic sense. There's already some evidence for it in a lot of the anti 'ableist' communities. People exhibit such a strong distaste for things being ableist as an existential plea that they themselves or their children won't be victim of disability at some point.
As such, I can see there being a lot of fear there. Perhaps the conflict internally is enough to make them 'play it safe' and just not have kids in general. I'll let y'all know if we come up with more.
>>81353221
Your parents never loved you.
>>81344731
How can gay people reproduce?
I wanted kids so bad when I was in my early twenties but ultimately got rejected too many times for being a beta. Now I no longer care. All the pain is gone and only bitter misogyny remains.
Fuck my lineage. Just give me a raise so I can buy more entertainment and lol myself in my early fifties when my health starts to seriously deteriorate.
their testosterone is lower so they don't feel as much of a primal biological urge to fuck
>>81353948
My parents loved me a lot, I still hang out with my parents all the time. There are a lot of shitty parents and shitty kids out there and I see how much my parents had to sacrifice to raise me and my siblings. I dont want that
>>81353221
>hurdur parents have no control over kids
Kids don't fucking look up to their school friends for a role model. This is just a lazy cop out by lazy parents. Don't give a shit about your kid? Then he won't give a shit about you. Simple reciprocity.
>>81344731
Nobody has the money for kids.
Even if they did, who would deliberately breed one of these feminist monsters trying to pass itself off as a woman? She is just going to get bored with you, throw you in the garbage can, steal your children away, and enslave you through alimony and child support until the end of time.
You will be right back where you started, only with a lot less money.
>>81354727
Kids learn jokes, manners, habits, hobbies etc from their friends. Lots of other kids are shit heads
1. The USA is an utterly terrible place to have and raise kids. Honestly only monoethnic Old Worlders should have kids
2. People do beyond disgusting things with their body. The hint of anything involving a diaper makes me not want to eat. I'm probably bothered 100x more than the average person by shit/piss
>>81344731
There's no incentive to have kids. I can't even get a job right now.
The fuck am I supposed to do, knock up some bitch on tinder? No thanks.
Truth
because the immigrants took all the jobs.
I'm not even joking. Like every pizza driver guy is a 50 year old mexicobro.
Walk into a movie theater, half the staff is over 40
Where are my kids going to work in their teenage years? And you say college, but those 40 years have 7 kids all going to college and they all cheat or are clannish and make college hell.
The place is crowded and enlightened people don't feel like having kids who will be worse off then they were.
/Truth
>>81344731
I have my wife's kids. Why would I want to produce any myself?
>>81355021
They learn more from their parents. This is why the school bully usually has an alcoholic ptsd army vet of a dad who probably beats his son and why the nerdy science guy has chill parents.
Because my children wouldn't be white.
>>81351176
>hoarding a bunch of money that will just go to some family member when you die
>a great achievement
Kids are a far better achievement. Caring this much about making money just for the sake of having money is retarded.
>>81352130
If they truly cared about Poland, they wouldn't have left
>>81350458
M8, I watched both my parents try EVERYTHING to set my eldest sister straight. She went lesbo, stole from us, sent cops to ours house under false pretense, has been arrested multiple times, and fried her brain on ecstacy/heroine/xanax etc. Then she pissed away a full ride to the airforce academy and a guaranteed job as a firefighter upon graduating... And it all started when she got a few "cool" friends and they mocked her for being a virgin at 18.
Know where she is now? Of course you don't because she's a 32y.o addict living in a rehab center for the 5th or 6th time since her 18th birthday. So don't tell me it's all about being an honest and good parent--it's a gamble and that's it.
Too busy. I'm studying Maths, Chemistry and Physics in college, I get drunk every weekend, have sex with different quite often and that's before I've even started playing Touhou. There's just too much to do. I honestly think in the future, the only way adults are going to have enough time to raise kids and do all the other shit is for kids to become one of the lads and join in adult activities (obviously not drinking).
>>81344731
from what i can see, white women are awful and would make awful mothers and create more awful whores to spread their awfulness
so though no one wants to admit it, the main reason is because (white) women just don't seem worthwhile enough to settle down with
Millenials are terrified of commitment. They don't want to date/marry, I've heard many shamelessly say that they don't work at any place for more than 2-3 years, they don't like the idea of even living in one place for the rest of their lives so they won't even buy a home. Children are an 18-30 year (depending how well you prepared them) commitment that scare the shit out of millenials. I don't think it's about money. It's not expensive to raise kids at all if you don't job-hop like a retard.
>>81356381
>I've heard many shamelessly say that they don't work at any place for more than 2-3 years
Why would you? Companies dont pay for loyalty anymore, you wont get promotions, you wont get raises, you wont get rewards or more vacation if you stay in one place. If you do move jobs then you get all those and more
>>81356381
>because 180k price tag for kids 0-18 isn't expensive
>has lengthy detailed statistics and credible sources to back it up
Yep. I can't argue with any of this logic.
>>81344731
With modern Western women? Are you out of your mind?
Traditional Western women, yes. Fuck all that feminism shit and them corrupting children with their feminist lies. Sexbots that can give birth can't come soon enough.
>>81356381
I job hopped three times and now I make a comfortable salary. Trying to get a raise at one of the last office jobs I had was impossible, despite being given more tasks and refused salary pay and forced to do all of the work they made me do in 40 hours, despite it being 45+ hours.
As >>81356636 put it, companies don't care for their employees. No reason to be loyal to a company when pensions are non-existent in most private sector places and they will not treat you well.
>>81356649
Y-You could homeschool them.
And you don't have to pay them for college if you don't want.
Too bad USA doesn't have free medical care, nor free education, nor free college. Not that my country has those things either, it's a shame anyway.
>>81344731
First off, children are disgusting, annoying and too needy. Currently I have no desire to have any of that in my life
Second , they're too expensive in today's world. I can't even support myself properly, why bring 2 more people in this mess?
Third, normal western women are now rare so have fun finding someone who looks decent, isn't a bimbo slut or isn't actually insane.
Fourth, having kids now risks my children getting in contact with the disgusting mudslimes invading europe. Just imagine your son getting beaten to death or your daughter raped by these maggots
Oh and also I don't want to be stuck with someone for years on until death. I'm just not able to
What goes on with this world after my death doesn't concern me
There are more rich people and more poor people. The healthy middle class is disappearing. Those rich guys are hedonists. The poor people can barely pay for a room and have to work in the same slave-like conditions as immigrants. With +4 million jobless people in age of work the job market is completely broken and the syndicates are dead.
No sane woman who isn't a nameless whore wants to go out with guy who has no future, much less bring out kids and have to live from charity like if you were gypsies.
>>81347338
>HURR DURR MY PARENTS RAN THEMSELVES INTO THE GROUND
>EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT TOO
Even if you could manage that is it really worth it? I mean in all honesty all you're doing is making a shitty copy of two people into one.
Then there's all the legal shit and other bullshit you have to go through.
>You don't want your son or daughter in school? That's child abuse!
>You told timmy he couldn't wear a skirt? I'm calling protective services!
>You told your daughter she shouldn't cry because she's white after attending mandatory white blaming classes? HITLER!
Ideal conditions for the family unit is long over with.
>>81356381
95% of jobs are soul draining and people like things that are fresh and new. I love the millennial nomadic, irreverent bachelor lifestyle
Peers who get married and "settle down" like some boomer are boring and drop out of life. I would rather be a manchild forever and live a cozy and irreverent life, playing retro Smash Brothers N64 at age 50 and spending disposable income on audiophile gear, gadgets and stuff for cats
And if I die and have inheritance, it will go to animal shelter charities, because kots and dogs are better than people
Pic related is my goal apartment/condo. I still live with my parents and honestly only use 4 rooms, my bedroom, home theatre room, bathroom and the kitchen
If you were given a kid, would you give it to adoption services, then?
Just curious.
>>81357824
yes
I would like to have a lot of kids, but j don't think /pol/ would like it because I'm a spic.
>>81348672
wow even if the overpopulation thing was real...who the frig cares?
Kill some other races' kids so yours can reap the benifits if thats what concerns you.
>>81344731
Because the Baby Boomers and Generation X'ers created a society in which having kids is an even bigger pain than it used to be, and a world in which I wouldn't want to be growing up.
Why the fuck should I feel obligated to give up between tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars and 18+ years of life? Literally fucking pointless.
Because I value my own life more than other people's right now. Maybe when I'm older and I've experienced enough I'll settle down and raise a family but right now I'm enjoying myself.
>inb4 selfish men in their 20's is a bad thing meme
>>81344731
(((Conditioning)))
>>81355379
Good for them. Let the migrants come, they got shafted by being born in the wrong place and want to be American. The kindest thing to do is let them. Their long hours working shit wages only helps support our posh lifestyles, they come to work on the plantations and we sit on the porch sipping tea. And it's better they migrate to a fellow immigrant colony like the US than go and try to get into Europe or Japan or non-immigrant countries.
Anarcho-Hedonism is the only way in 'murrica
>>81357238
>nor free college
Community college is almost free if you live in the area.
And you can always aim for scholarships.
Either way trades are always a good option. But who knows in 18 years.
It's a shame that cuckoldry on /pol/ isn't just ironic.
Even bigger shame that childless losers are allowed to vote.
>>81348672
The issue with this is third world shitskins will never stop having kids because its only white people who care about the environment. So either we do the same or just die out with our namby pamby bullshit liberalism.
I do, but I probably can't afford it yet and my wife wants to get her PhD before momming.
>>81357238
And there's plenty of perfectly fine public schools in the US, just move to the right place. Paying a shitload of money for private school isn't going to make your kid hard-working and smart, the parent has to instill those values. Your kid will still get honors and scholarships no matter what school they go to as long as they have those values.
>>81345340
>responsibility
there's that word again.
is not having children irresponsible?
no.
IQ and national comfort inversly correlate with birth rates. look at korea and japan. that's the future of europe as well. people are too comfortable to WANT children because they are no longer NEEDED.
>>81357392
>It's not ideal, so it's no worth it
t. autist
I have two. They are great. Most millennials are more retarded than my kids.
>don't get an education, pursue your aspirations and have a wealthy life, take care of ungrateful human beings instead
Sorry I'm not a nigger
>>81360178
teach them about 4chan, no censorship, then explain to them why 4chan is wrong.
Why is everyone bashing western women? Don't you any respect for the girls in your own countries?
>>81359976
Must be a woman
>WAAHHH MEN DON'T WANT TO PUMP ME FULL OF CHILD PAYMENTS
>THEY DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT ME AND MY BLACK BOYFRIEND AFTER I TALK OVER HALF HIS SHIT
Even when it was ideal conditions it was shit so don't take it that way toots.
>>81348217
>a 3 year old can't do something adults do
>he must be retarded despite his current intelligence
>>81361097
Why? They're citizens of your nation. You know, maybe if you guys actually thought about other people and tried to help them your nations wouldn't be so shitty and you'd actually be a good country like Great Britain?
>>81344731
Because kids "cost money."
I fucking hate it when my friends say this. Almost every single one of my friends doesn't want to have kids because they "cost money." They also believe that they'll never have any free time once you get a kid.
Do they not remember when they were kids and their parents took them out? Did you not think the parents enjoyed that time with their children? Why do they think they can't enjoy the time too?
I want kids. I want a lot of kids. I love kids and I want them to take my money, especially after I die.
>>81344731
Because fuck humanity, that's why. The species isn't important. Morals are gone, and I stopped being good a long time ago. I would rather have a career of my choice, lots of money, a dog, and indulge in my depraved fantasies with lots of sluts, than be committed to some whore who will cheat on my eventually, take half my stuff, and turn my kids against me while she dates some asshole who will probably sexually abuse them.
>>81345566
what does that t. shit mean?
>>81361278
I think the truth is, I don't respect my nation at all, but I can't speak about other people.
An no one wants to take care of me, even after I take care of them, so well, it's just shit.
>>81344731
Cuz it's another baby boomer scam
>>81361590
read a dictionary
>can't find a good mother for possible children
>no time to raise children because me and the mother would have to work 40+ hours every week
>rapists running outside
>I still didn't move out of parents basement
>still didn't even had first gf
>i'm already 25 and I just want to play videogames all day and get high
fug
>>81344731
I want children OP.
Problem is the whole "find a good wife" thing. It's basically impossible nowadays.
And no, I'm not ugly or dumb.
Guns and doing what I want >>>>>>>> Kids.
Whats the point?
American kike media is pushed all over the west destroying the minds of young people, schools are leftist indoctrination center pushing a anti white narrative + german nazi guilt in my country on top of it
I got through most of it because ive always been a bit of a freak but i see what this shit has turned most of my peers into and i dont want that for my kids
With the pushing of niggers and kebabs whites in the 18-34 bracket will already be a minority in Germany and i dont see a magical happening come that undos decades of indoctrination and has white women magically turn into willing housewives
Its over
>>81361676
Everyone is flawed. We live in an inperfect universe full of selfish people who are that way because they don't know any better. Many people don't know that they are bad and think like you. "I give everyone else so much, but I get nothing back". Then they stop caring which perpetuates the probblem. You have to be strong and take care of yourself and the others around you, even if they're utter pricks. Such men make the world a better place. You need to accept that people are flawed and make so many mistakes, but you need to be strong and always show them the right path. Or don't, and lie on your death bed surrounded by money and nothing else, knowing that, at the end of the day, you were just another one of them that did nothing to build a nation you respect.
>>81362217
>you cannot own guns or do stuff you want to do if you have kids
>>81344731
I met this half Italian half Australian girl in Croatia two weeks ago. Very traditional values, liked to be romanced and loved the stereotypical gender roles. Really a lovely girl of 22 years old. She told me at a dinner that later on in her life she wanted to have lots of children (at least 5). Even better she was pretty redpilled too, and somewhat catholic as well. I dont think i will ever encounter such a girl again.
>>81344731
Most women are:
A)Degenerate SJWs
B)Literally how /r9k/ says they are.
C)Shitskins
Plus children in this day and age are expensive AF.
T. Black millennial
>>81361774
t. a faggot
>>81344731
Yes, goy! Have children so that we can indoctrinate them into gayhood, worship of nigger culture and consumerism. Drug consumption is part of the plan, too.
Oy vey, goy! Have children! We need fresh slaves!
>>81362387
I know, I'd rather spend time and money on myself.
>22
>Bachelors degree
>no debt
Maybe in my late 20s, early 30s.
>>81344731
Too redpilled. They can come through bypassing ugly vagoo
>>81362824
Right on.
>>81363085
>you can't got to college if you have a kid
>you will be in debt if you have kids
>>81363222
Thank you based kek.
>>81363222
Trips of truth
But to be honoust not all woman are either SJW or Complete whores. Just don't buy into the degenracy shit like Tinder or stuff like that and just meet girls outside where you can talk face to face.
>>81363412
Again, I'd rather do what I want without the responsibilities of a child.
When I'm older and more mature, kids are a possibility.
>>81363711
>women outside of the social justice agenda
>not complete normalfag whores
I mean I have some racist white girls in my friend group that are fun AF to be around, but they are too scary to ask.
Plus miscentagation is degenerate.
>>81351576
Self-sacrifice is part of becoming an adult, moron. Obviously you're still a manchild.
>>81364281
>Sacrificing half your life for your child to become a coal miner or some fuck with a PhD in Women's Studies/some Non - STEM.
B O I
>>81364281
>hurr sacrifice yourself for the betterment of society n sheeit
Fuck off pathological altruist cuck.
>>81348902
Judging by the size of her arms, she has a large ass.
>>81361364
>Did you not think the parents enjoyed that time with their children?
Do you really think they enjoyed that time as much as they could have if it was spent on other activities? The biological parenting instinct is a hell of a drug
>They also believe that they'll never have any free time once you get a kid.
This is an objective truth.
You wanna have kids. That's fine. Don't pretend like the most common complaints aren't valid.
>>81364223
You don't even need racist girls my man. Just have a girl who looks ok-ish to good. Since when does a woman's opinion matter to you.
>>81349948
>German Shepard
>7/10 blonde
living the dream
>>81362824
>A)Degenerate SJWs
The Social Media Boom of the last decade has redpilled men hard on this fact of Life
Guys are no longer willing to take one for the team when female degeneracy has become normalized and even celebrated
>>81344731
too busy being entitled selfish pricks... collapse incoming
>all these normies itt making me jelly
>>81344731
>Be millenial
Same reason why so many of us supports communism and race mixing:
We've been brainwashed by over 3 generations of Jewish tricks.
Not even memeing anymore it's just the truth that my generation is fucked.
>>81364912
>Do you really think they enjoyed that time as much as they could have if it was spent on other activities?
Not everything, sure. However, I am much older than many of my siblings and I find a way to find pleasure in taking them to places that are for kids. I enjoy seeing them happy. I mean, if having a kid really was that boring and awful, noone would do it.
>You wanna have kids. That's fine. Don't pretend like the most common complaints aren't valid.
They really aren't though. They're stupid complaints.
>>81364820
>implying you can't raise children correctly or give them advice so they don't make as many bad decisions
>>81364865
Good. Let your genes die off. We don't need cucks like you.
>>81365499
Fuckers should've done psychedelics to reverse the brainwashing. Oh well.
>>81365676
>We
O i am laffin, you think people IRL are rallying behind you.
No one gives a fuck about 'muh genes' outside of 4chan.
>>81350111
>And when you're at the end of your life, you will have left nothing of value behind
That's true of every human being who has ever lived.
>>81346304
Confirmed (if you don't know anyone)
t. STEMfag
>>81365570
>I find a way to find pleasure in taking them to places that are for kids.
Yes, but there's also the completely valid idea of never actually "growing up" and continuing to enjoy things that are arguably "for kids".
>I enjoy seeing them happy.
Me too. I'd be a great Uncle is my brother ever procreates.
> I mean, if having a kid really was that boring and awful, noone would do it
Nah, because sex is crazy enjoyable and birth control and other things aren't universally used to accepted. So long as dumb people are fucking without protection, we're gonna have plenty of kids.
Anyways, boring never came up. But I'd rather spend my savings on visiting East Asia than on Disney World or some such shit.
>They're stupid complaints.
Time and money are everything. Children consume a massive amount of both.
because its much more expensive to raise children and divorce.
the average mook can't deal with that kind of pressure
They're too expensive to have. That is, if you're white.
>>81344731
I'd love to have kids. But when I do, I'm going to be 40 and my wife/gf is going to be late 20s/early 30s.
there is absolutely no reason to have kids when you are young. Kids are boat anchors that cost a shitload of money to raise properly. Private school is like $40k/yr now. Educational spend on a kid, k-college in 2016 is just shy of a million dollars if you send them to top tier schools.
I actually did the math once, in education alone I cost my parents $775k out of pocket. Of course you can send them to public school but that's basically a combination of daycare and torture.
t. educated american
>>81344731
Our women are whores. Anyone who impregnates a "modern" woman is a cuck
>>81365676
>advice
>mattering
This fucking generation is proof of that.
>>81348672
bantz or not, a lot of girls actually bought into the overpopulating meme and cite it as a "legitimate" reason for not having children
>>81366203
>Yes, but there's also the completely valid idea of never actually "growing up" and continuing to enjoy things that are arguably "for kids".
Then couldn't you just do those things with your kids as well? Why do you need to stop doing things you enjoy just because you have a child now?
>But I'd rather spend my savings on visiting East Asia
...why can't you bring your kid/s?
>Children consume a massive amount of both.
But these people who complain about this being an issue act like it's physically impossible to be able to have free time or any money. Having a child is not crippling. It's a responsibility, much like adopting a new hobby to spend all that money you saved by not having a kid.
>>81356381
>they don't work at any place for more than 2-3 years
There's no advantage to it
You're more likely to get a cross promotion by leaving than ever get an internal promotion
Corporate loyalty to their employees is dead and everyone knows it
>>81366557
This too, but I'll gladly start a family with a virgin. Even one partner is one dick too many.
>>81363857
>When I'm older and more mature, kids are a possibility.
So is down syndrome.
>>81356381
>Millenials are terrified of commitment.
And the reason for that is?
Oh, you didn't think that far.
>>81365697
>Psychedelics
>Reverse the brainwashing
Doesn't work that way anon. If anything they make them more brainwashed because they'll typically be playing jewish movies/hip hop/ other jewish media while tripping out.
Imagine that, 12 drugged out kids in a dark room all listening to some coon going "AW SHIT NIGGA WE WUZ PRESIDENTS N SHIT" over and over again while having their minds blasted away. The next day they are taught about how the nuclear family was failure and how sexual liberation was he best thing happen to women. After this they go to the next class to learn about evil white colonialism and white priveledge.Most of them get their news through Twitter or The Daily Show and other jewish owned media. Then it's more hallucinogens.
>>81366949
>thinking I'll marry a girl my age
top wew
>>81344731
>20
>cant get a job
>cant get into training since im not 16
>want to have kids before 27 but need to save money up for that
>mfw
>>81344731
I want to have children.
t. millennial.
>>81367173
Good plan. Most people don't consider that option; I thought you were one of them. Feminism has brainwashed a lot of men into thinking old hags are valuable.
>>81359842
>people are too comfortable to WANT children because they are no longer NEEDED.
i think you missed the point. getting married is about fulfillment.
>>81356381
I read an article somewhere (US News?) that said that you should stay at a job about 1.5-3 years and book it to keep up with personal earning potential and inflation
>>81367543
or you know
negotiate for a raise
It would force them to grow up and stop being selfish.
>>81344731
Because if I have a boy it will grow up in a society that hates him, and if I have a girl I will see her grow up into a manipulative piece of shit.
>>81344921
FIRST POST BEST POST.
I wouldn't want them having kids either until they've matured themselves.
>>81366341
Also this. I'd want my children to be raised the best way possible. With today's economy and the impending collapse, I don't think I'd have the money. No way am I sending them to the indoctrination camps that pass for schools now.
>>81367864
That doesn't work, companies dont need you. They just fire you and hire someone else or give you such a minimal raise it isnt worth it.
But if instead you just fucking leave and get another job you end up getting more benefits, more vacation, higher salary etc and after 2-3 years of that you rinse and repeat again
>>81368141
how does that work?
seniority is what boosting your wage levels
I love how people in this thread speak as if they aren't millennial
I always planned on starting a family in my thirties because I wanted to enjoy my twenties as being single and an opportune time to test for who could be someone for me to settle down with. At most I wanted two because they're more manageable financially and emotionally and do nothing to offset the population.
Except everyone around me hasn't hit twenty five yet, has a minimum wage job, and a kid or maybe more. One notorious slut has around four or five with a fucking retard or perhaps multiple dads.
I think you're question is skewed, since the people who lack foresight are the ones having kids irresponsibly and the result is having people who prepares pick up the slack.
>>81368311
You have experience in the job, so if you quit one and apply to another you have more leverage when negotiating a wage, and other things anon said.
>>81357309
>tfw your country is full of selfish shits like this
best live with your mom till youre 35, fuck as many as you want and make sure the ones you did impregnate by accident, abort it. jesus christ these new generations are sickening cowards
>>81365151
>Guys are no longer willing to take one for the team
There still are men that will, but they're either ugly, poor, have shit/boring personalities, social autists or a combination of the above
>>81368311
Not in America/Canada
You're just one of thousands of people in a company generally. The best way to get a higher wage is to move up in position at another place.
How it works is you'll get hired and your wage is your wage, after 2-3 years that wage has gone up for new hires but for you it's only gone up a minimal amount so you're better off leaving your job and making 10% more somewhere else than you are staying and getting a plaque with your name on it and a 2% raise.
>>81344731
>tfw want to marry
>tfw want kid(s)
>tfw earn above median household income by myself
>tfw no gf
>>81368539
no, best live alone, fuck as many as you want and get a vasectomy before doing it so there are no accidents.
Fucking sue me, I don't want to raise children in this shithole and I'm tired of the "BUT MUUUH HERITAGE" MEME
>>81368539
He's right though and you're a fucking faggot. You're the one who is selfish for wanting to bring innocent people into this fucked up world and force them to live up to a standard you deem fit because you're too much of a failure and you want your kids to be better than you. You're a cunt.
>>81368141
That sounds pretty fucked up.
>>81344731
>no gf
>>81368873
>wanting your kids to be better than you
>a bad thing
but how will humanity improve if kids aren't better than their parents
The world has also always been fucked up, will remain to be fucked up but we've made it this far so it's not an argument.
>>81368880
It's really fucked up but who cares, I get to take my skills elsewhere and improve my salary. 8 years ago when I started working real jobs/internship I started off at 14$ an hour, spent 2 years there and moved up at another place for 18$ and once I finished school I quit that place and found a job for 25$ an hour, this past month i've started sending my resume out again, my current job wont give me a raise to 30 an hour but somewhere else certainly will and some places will probably pay me even more. It at least keeps it interesting, I get a new work environment and new coworkers every couple years.
>>81368776
we're dying out bc of the selfish shits like you. im glad you wont procreate desu one less spineless egotistic asshole weeded out.
>>81344731
Because it would be racist of them to increase the white population, so they let niggers and other fuckupshitskins do it, and so civilisation ends.
